[old-chevy-truck] Truck Noise

2013-09-22 Thread Ken Cluley
Hi All
 
I think I posted something on this a few months ago.  I continue to have a 
noise that I believe is coming from the lower part of my engine - maybe in the 
oil pan area.  The noise is a rattle or bang that is pretty noisy when I first 
start the engine but decreases as I rev the engine but then returns at idle.  I 
have a 1954 full pressure 235.  The oil pressure remains normal even when 
driving the truck and the temp is ok.  Can an oil pump make this sort of noise? 
 The engine was completely rebuilt about 2000 miles ago by a top notch 
mechanic.  I've added a link to a youtube video so that everyone can listen to 
the noise.  You'll hear a slight pinging but it's the banging noise that has me 
concerned.  Here's the link:  http://youtu.be/irrv-cUrsV4 
 
Thanks for everyone's help.
 
Ken
1950 3100 Deluxe

 


RE: [old-chevy-truck] Installing 235 Clutch Fork

2013-09-22 Thread corvallis
I usually position the throwout bearing and clutch fork together before
installing the transmission.  Bill in Oregon

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I recently removed my trans and flywheel in order to replace the starter
gear ring due to excessive wear. I now have the trans and flywheel (with new
gear ring) installed. But, I'm having difficulty getting the clutch fork
reinstalled. I can't quite slip the fork onto the throwout bearing as the
ballstud, on which the clutch fork pivots, is in the way. It looks as
though, if I remove the ballstud I'll be able to get the fork onto the
bearing. But, I don't think I'll have enough room to reinstall the ball
stud. So, what's the procedure to reinstalling the clutch fork? Any hints?





RE: [old-chevy-truck] Truck Noise

2013-09-22 Thread corvallis
How soon after the rebuild did the noise start? Is it getting worse?  Bill
in Oregon

 

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Hi All

 

I think I posted something on this a few months ago.  I continue to have a
noise that I believe is coming from the lower part of my engine - maybe in
the oil pan area.  The noise is a rattle or bang that is pretty noisy when I
first start the engine but decreases as I rev the engine but then returns at
idle.  I have a 1954 full pressure 235.  The oil pressure remains normal
even when driving the truck and the temp is ok.  Can an oil pump make this
sort of noise?  The engine was completely rebuilt about 2000 miles ago by a
top notch mechanic.  I've added a link to a youtube video so that everyone
can listen to the noise.  You'll hear a slight pinging but it's the banging
noise that has me concerned.  Here's the link:
http://youtu.be/irrv-cUrsV4 http://youtu.be/irrv-cUrsV4 

 

Thanks for everyone's help.

 

Ken

1950 3100 Deluxe


 

 





Re: [old-chevy-truck] Truck Noise

2013-09-22 Thread Ken Cluley
Bill, I don't drive the truck much so it was probably a year after the build 
that the noise began.  I can't tell if its getting worse but have noticed that 
it improves as the truck runs or the engine it revved.  


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How soon after the rebuild did the noise start? Is it getting worse?  Bill in 
Oregon
 
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Hi All
 
I think I posted something on this a few months ago.  I continue to have a 
noise that I believe is coming from the lower part of my engine - maybe in the 
oil pan area.  The noise is a rattle or bang that is pretty noisy when I first 
start the engine but decreases as I rev the engine but then returns at idle.  I 
have a 1954 full pressure 235.  The oil pressure remains normal even when 
driving the truck and the temp is ok.  Can an oil pump make this sort of noise? 
 The engine was completely rebuilt about 2000 miles ago by a top notch 
mechanic.  I've added a link to a youtube video so that everyone can listen to 
the noise.  You'll hear a slight pinging but it's the banging noise that has me 
concerned.  Here's the link:  http://youtu.be/irrv-cUrsV4 
 
Thanks for everyone's help.
 
Ken
1950 3100 Deluxe

 
 





RE: [old-chevy-truck] Truck Noise

2013-09-22 Thread corvallis
Sounds related to oil pressure.

You may want to be sure you have adequate oil pressure. 

The next cheapest thing to check is the valve adjustments. 

If that's not it, pull the oil pan and check the bearings.  Bill in Oregon

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Bill, I don't drive the truck much so it was probably a year after the build
that the noise began.  I can't tell if its getting worse but have noticed
that it improves as the truck runs or the engine it revved.  

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Subject: RE: [old-chevy-truck] Truck Noise

How soon after the rebuild did the noise start? Is it getting worse?  Bill
in Oregon

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Subject: [old-chevy-truck] Truck Noise

 

Hi All

 

I think I posted something on this a few months ago.  I continue to have a
noise that I believe is coming from the lower part of my engine - maybe in
the oil pan area.  The noise is a rattle or bang that is pretty noisy when I
first start the engine but decreases as I rev the engine but then returns at
idle.  I have a 1954 full pressure 235.  The oil pressure remains normal
even when driving the truck and the temp is ok.  Can an oil pump make this
sort of noise?  The engine was completely rebuilt about 2000 miles ago by a
top notch mechanic.  I've added a link to a youtube video so that everyone
can listen to the noise.  You'll hear a slight pinging but it's the banging
noise that has me concerned.  Here's the link:
http://youtu.be/irrv-cUrsV4 http://youtu.be/irrv-cUrsV4 

 

Thanks for everyone's help.

 

Ken

1950 3100 Deluxe


 

 

 

 





[old-chevy-truck] oiling

2013-09-22 Thread rl_westmoreland
















Hi All,Should there be a lot or little oil coming in the top of the engine around the lifters. I have removed the valve cover gasket and can lift the valve cover off after i shut the engine off after running for a few minutes and not much oil is present. Is this normal or should there be a good bit coming up inside valve cover and then draining back down thru the holes?Thanks, Robert













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RE: [old-chevy-truck] oiling

2013-09-22 Thread corvallis
Run it with the valve cover off. You should have some oil coming out at EACH
rocker arm. 

(The lifters are inside the engine so you can't see them under the valve
cover.)

Bill in Oregon

 

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Hi All,
Should there be a lot or little oil coming in the top of the engine around
the lifters. I have removed the valve cover gasket and can lift the valve
cover off after i shut the engine off after running for a few minutes and
not much oil is present. Is this normal or should there be a good bit coming
up inside valve cover and then draining back down thru the holes?

Thanks, Robert





RE: [old-chevy-truck] Truck Noise

2013-09-22 Thread Bill Hanlon
Before you start pulling the pan try this for additional information:

 

Get the engine to its noisiest operation.  Leave it running.

Remove #1 spark plug wire.  Did the noise get better, worse or stay the
same?  Put number 1 spark plug wire back on.

Now do the same with each of the other plug wires, one at a time.

 

If the problem is in the bottom of the engine (crank/rod/piston) you should
be able to tell which cylinder is causing grief when you have that
cylinder's plug wire off.  

 

Use well insulated pliers (FLAPS has special plastic pliers just for this)
to do the job.  Or buy your brother-in-law a couple of beers and have him
pull the wires bare handed.

 

 

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Sounds related to oil pressure.

You may want to be sure you have adequate oil pressure. 

The next cheapest thing to check is the valve adjustments. 

If that's not it, pull the oil pan and check the bearings.  Bill in Oregon

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Bill, I don't drive the truck much so it was probably a year after the build
that the noise began.  I can't tell if its getting worse but have noticed
that it improves as the truck runs or the engine it revved.  

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How soon after the rebuild did the noise start? Is it getting worse?  Bill
in Oregon

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Hi All

 

I think I posted something on this a few months ago.  I continue to have a
noise that I believe is coming from the lower part of my engine - maybe in
the oil pan area.  The noise is a rattle or bang that is pretty noisy when I
first start the engine but decreases as I rev the engine but then returns at
idle.  I have a 1954 full pressure 235.  The oil pressure remains normal
even when driving the truck and the temp is ok.  Can an oil pump make this
sort of noise?  The engine was completely rebuilt about 2000 miles ago by a
top notch mechanic.  I've added a link to a youtube video so that everyone
can listen to the noise.  You'll hear a slight pinging but it's the banging
noise that has me concerned.  Here's the link:
http://youtu.be/irrv-cUrsV4 http://youtu.be/irrv-cUrsV4 

 

Thanks for everyone's help.

 

Ken

1950 3100 Deluxe


 

 

 

 





RE: [old-chevy-truck] Truck Noise

2013-09-22 Thread Bill Hanlon
Whps!  I forgot the punch line.  Engine should get quieter when you pull
the plug wire on the offending cylinder.

 

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Before you start pulling the pan try this for additional information:

 

Get the engine to its noisiest operation.  Leave it running.

Remove #1 spark plug wire.  Did the noise get better, worse or stay the
same?  Put number 1 spark plug wire back on.

Now do the same with each of the other plug wires, one at a time.

 

If the problem is in the bottom of the engine (crank/rod/piston) you should
be able to tell which cylinder is causing grief when you have that
cylinder's plug wire off.  

 

Use well insulated pliers (FLAPS has special plastic pliers just for this)
to do the job.  Or buy your brother-in-law a couple of beers and have him
pull the wires bare handed.

 

 

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Sounds related to oil pressure.

You may want to be sure you have adequate oil pressure. 

The next cheapest thing to check is the valve adjustments. 

If that's not it, pull the oil pan and check the bearings.  Bill in Oregon

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Bill, I don't drive the truck much so it was probably a year after the build
that the noise began.  I can't tell if its getting worse but have noticed
that it improves as the truck runs or the engine it revved.  

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How soon after the rebuild did the noise start? Is it getting worse?  Bill
in Oregon

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Subject: [old-chevy-truck] Truck Noise

 

Hi All

 

I think I posted something on this a few months ago.  I continue to have a
noise that I believe is coming from the lower part of my engine - maybe in
the oil pan area.  The noise is a rattle or bang that is pretty noisy when I
first start the engine but decreases as I rev the engine but then returns at
idle.  I have a 1954 full pressure 235.  The oil pressure remains normal
even when driving the truck and the temp is ok.  Can an oil pump make this
sort of noise?  The engine was completely rebuilt about 2000 miles ago by a
top notch mechanic.  I've added a link to a youtube video so that everyone
can listen to the noise.  You'll hear a slight pinging but it's the banging
noise that has me concerned.  Here's the link:
http://youtu.be/irrv-cUrsV4 http://youtu.be/irrv-cUrsV4 

 

Thanks for everyone's help.

 

Ken

1950 3100 Deluxe


 

 

 

 





[old-chevy-truck] How to start a 216 that has been resting sixteen years

2013-09-22 Thread c50truck
















Hello;I did try to search the group, because I suspected this question had been answered before. I was not successful in finding an answer. So I apologize for the possible rerun. I do wish too determine if my 50 Chevy with a 216 will start. I remember the radiator top leaked, and it would run hot if ran to long when I parked it the fall of97. I cant remember if I ever ran it hotter than I should have,but something caused me to stop driving it. I have done nothing with it since it was parked, except put air in the tires,spray the wasp nests, and move it out of the field last week. This week, I wish to find if the engine can still fire. Seems Iremember I shouldpour small amounts of oil through the spark plug openings and let it soak before trying to fire the engine, true? Stale fuel? Thats a problem. Anything else Ive overlooked?F
 ull disclosure; Im on the fence. Not sure yetif my goal is to restore the 5 window, or sell. But either way Id like to at least know if it would start again, and how to determine that without causingpossible damage to an engine. Thanks for any help. Rod LaFranceGreenacres, WA. 













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RE: [old-chevy-truck] How to start a 216 that has been resting sixteen years

2013-09-22 Thread corvallis
Yes, get all of the old gas out of the tank, carb and fuel line. 

I would wire brush the plugs and gap them. 

Put some oil in plug holes and let it sit overnight. 

If you've marked the plug wires (#1 is at the radiator) leave the plugs out.

Maybe look at the oil; change it out plus filter if there is any chance 16
years of water condensation is in the oil. 

 

It'll be easiest to turn over with the plus out. An assistant can tell you
if the wires are sparking which means you won't have to clean off the wires
and pints.

 

Bill in Corvallis, Oregon

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years

 

Hello;  I did try to search the group, because I suspected this question had
been answered before. I was not successful in finding an answer. So I
apologize for the possible rerun. 

I do wish too determine if my 50 Chevy with a 216 will start. I remember the
radiator top leaked, and it would run hot if ran to long when I parked it
the fall of 97. I can't remember if I ever ran it hotter than I should have,
but something caused me to stop driving it. I have done nothing with it
since it was parked, except put air in the tires, spray the wasp nests, and
move it out of the field last week. This week, I wish to find if the engine
can still fire. 

Seems I remember I should pour small amounts of oil through the spark plug
openings and let it soak before trying to fire the engine, true? Stale fuel?
That's a problem. Anything else I've overlooked?

Full disclosure; I'm on the fence. Not sure yet if my goal is to restore the
5 window, or sell. But either way I'd like to at least know if it would
start again, and how to determine that without causing possible damage to an
engine. 

Thanks for any help. Rod LaFrance Greenacres, WA. 



RE: [old-chevy-truck] oiling

2013-09-22 Thread Allen Jones
I would say a goodly amount.  Is this the first time you have noticed?  One 
time I saw where half of the rockers had lots of oil and the other half didn’t. 
 Someone installed one of the rocker shafts upside down.  Rotated it correctly 
and all had plenty of oil…

Al Jones
’50 3100

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Hi All,
Should there be a lot or little oil coming in the top of the engine around the 
lifters. I have removed the valve cover gasket and can lift the valve cover off 
after i shut the engine off after running for a few minutes and not much oil is 
present. Is this normal or should there be a good bit coming up inside valve 
cover and then draining back down thru the holes?

Thanks, Robert