Re: [OmniOS-discuss] Investing into the Future of OmniOS Community Edition

2017-11-27 Thread Guenther Alka

hello Tobias

A pure donation modell (pay for something that is available for free) is 
only ok for small amounts from private persons.


Can this be extended by
- a function to request a quotation with a given amount together with a 
(pro forma) invoice online what makes institutional/edu payments possible

(to accept this quotation, pay the amount until..)

- with some sort of an extra offer over the free offerings
maybe a Pro subscription to beta/ bloody releases, a knowledgebase or a 
plus repository


Gea


Am 26.11.2017 um 23:31 schrieb Tobias Oetiker:

Hi All

tl;tr? head over to https://omniosce.org/patron and support your favorite OS 
with a regular donation.

Since the OmniOS Community Edition Association has taken over maintenance and 
care of OmniOSce, things have been moving at a brisk pace.

   * Upstream changes from Illumos and Joyent are integrated weekly into our 
github repo.

   * Security fixes are normally available within hours.

   * We have committed to an elaborate long term release plan.

   * In early November we have released OmniOS r24 on schedule with many 
enhancements.

   * Our new website has a lot of new content on feeding and care of your 
OmniOS instance.

Judging from the 566 systems that have been switched over to our new repos, 
downloading regular updates, we think there is ample interest in OmniOS. Not 
even taking into account all those who have not yet upgraded.

With the release of OmniOSce r24 we have created the OmniOS Patron Page where 
you can set up regular contribution or a one time donation to the project.

Unfortunately only very few people have yet made the step of actually pledging 
funds. According to the straw poll conducted in spring, there should be at 
least 80k USD per year available to those who maintain and release updates for  
OmniOS.

At the moment we are getting about 25 USD per month from 4 individuals. This is 
pretty bleak and does not even begin to cover the cost of running the show and 
certainly does not allow us to plan for the future.

Head over to https://omniosce.org/patron and let us know how much you value 
OmniOS and our work. If everybody spent just 20 dollar per system and month 
things would be looking much brighter already.

To put this into perspective: a single O365 Enterprise license costs 35 
USD/month. Most individuals pay a similar amount every month for the internet 
connection or mobile phone contract.

Andy Fiddaman
Dominik Hassler
Tobi Oetiker

--
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Aarweg 17, 4600 Olten, Switzerland
www.omniosce.org
i...@omniosce.org


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Re: [OmniOS-discuss] Investing into the Future of OmniOS Community Edition

2017-11-27 Thread Stephan Budach
+1

Cheers,
Stephan

- Ursprüngliche Mail -
> Von: "Guenther Alka" 
> An: "omnios-discuss" 
> Gesendet: Montag, 27. November 2017 10:15:47
> Betreff: Re: [OmniOS-discuss] Investing into the Future of OmniOS Community   
> Edition
> 
> hello Tobias
> 
> A pure donation modell (pay for something that is available for free)
> is
> only ok for small amounts from private persons.
> 
> Can this be extended by
> - a function to request a quotation with a given amount together with
> a
> (pro forma) invoice online what makes institutional/edu payments
> possible
> (to accept this quotation, pay the amount until..)
> 
> - with some sort of an extra offer over the free offerings
> maybe a Pro subscription to beta/ bloody releases, a knowledgebase or
> a
> plus repository
> 
> Gea
> 
> 
> Am 26.11.2017 um 23:31 schrieb Tobias Oetiker:
> > Hi All
> >
> > tl;tr? head over to https://omniosce.org/patron and support your
> > favorite OS with a regular donation.
> >
> > Since the OmniOS Community Edition Association has taken over
> > maintenance and care of OmniOSce, things have been moving at a
> > brisk pace.
> >
> >* Upstream changes from Illumos and Joyent are integrated weekly
> >into our github repo.
> >
> >* Security fixes are normally available within hours.
> >
> >* We have committed to an elaborate long term release plan.
> >
> >* In early November we have released OmniOS r24 on schedule with
> >many enhancements.
> >
> >* Our new website has a lot of new content on feeding and care
> >of your OmniOS instance.
> >
> > Judging from the 566 systems that have been switched over to our
> > new repos, downloading regular updates, we think there is ample
> > interest in OmniOS. Not even taking into account all those who
> > have not yet upgraded.
> >
> > With the release of OmniOSce r24 we have created the OmniOS Patron
> > Page where you can set up regular contribution or a one time
> > donation to the project.
> >
> > Unfortunately only very few people have yet made the step of
> > actually pledging funds. According to the straw poll conducted in
> > spring, there should be at least 80k USD per year available to
> > those who maintain and release updates for  OmniOS.
> >
> > At the moment we are getting about 25 USD per month from 4
> > individuals. This is pretty bleak and does not even begin to cover
> > the cost of running the show and certainly does not allow us to
> > plan for the future.
> >
> > Head over to https://omniosce.org/patron and let us know how much
> > you value OmniOS and our work. If everybody spent just 20 dollar
> > per system and month things would be looking much brighter
> > already.
> >
> > To put this into perspective: a single O365 Enterprise license
> > costs 35 USD/month. Most individuals pay a similar amount every
> > month for the internet connection or mobile phone contract.
> >
> > Andy Fiddaman
> > Dominik Hassler
> > Tobi Oetiker
> >
> > --
> > OmniOS Community Edition Association
> > Aarweg 17, 4600 Olten, Switzerland
> > www.omniosce.org
> > i...@omniosce.org
> 
> --
> H  f   G
> Hochschule für Gestaltung
> university of design
> 
> Schwäbisch Gmünd
> Rektor-Klaus Str. 100
> 73525 Schwäbisch Gmünd
> 
> Guenther Alka, Dipl.-Ing. (FH)
> Leiter des Rechenzentrums
> head of computer center
> 
> Tel 07171 602 627
> Fax 07171 69259
> guenther.a...@hfg-gmuend.de
> http://rz.hfg-gmuend.de
> 
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Re: [OmniOS-discuss] Investing into the Future of OmniOS Community Edition

2017-11-27 Thread Alexander Lesle
Hello,

for small amounts from private persons it will be better
you offer paypal (-donation) too.
https://www.paypal.com/de/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_flow&SESSION=0DhZCUoQyUfgZxqWh-_3fbqRqn5hNJFMTEAow8szClc8p7wgNC3c8pDbUeC&dispatch=5885d80a13c0db1f8e263663d3faee8dc3f308debf7330dd8d0b0a9f21afd7d3&rapidsState=Merchant__ButtonDesignerFlow___StateButtonDesignerStart&rapidsStateSignature=885abefea41ef918124519b9a82d2f77d8c3e533

Invoice online or as pdf I prefer too.

Tobias, few minutes ago I send my donation by bank wire in EURO.
Please check what you get CHF or EURO and how much are the bank
charges from your Postfinance AG.
Maybe its better when you have a bank account in the EURO-Zone
(Germany, France are near to you) because few banks collecting
bank charges by wiring to Switzerland.
Feedback by PN please.

On November, 27 2017, 10:15  wrote in [1]:

> hello Tobias

> A pure donation modell (pay for something that is available for free) is
> only ok for small amounts from private persons.

> Can this be extended by
> - a function to request a quotation with a given amount together with a
> (pro forma) invoice online what makes institutional/edu payments possible
> (to accept this quotation, pay the amount until..)

> - with some sort of an extra offer over the free offerings
> maybe a Pro subscription to beta/ bloody releases, a knowledgebase or a
> plus repository

> Gea
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Best Regards
Alexander
November, 27 2017

[1] mid:b9446f72-0d97-ed5c-1f8c-195c0f511...@hfg-gmuend.de


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Re: [OmniOS-discuss] Investing into the Future of OmniOS Community Edition

2017-11-27 Thread Tobias Oetiker
Hi Stephan, Hi Guenther

the proforma invoice, yes we will look into that ... what we also discussed is 
offering some repo with pre compiled packages for a fee. but we are not there 
yet. still trusting that users realize that omnios does not create itself out 
of thin air. applying some business logic and risk analysis should make this 
abundantly clear to most people with business responsibilities.

cheers
tobi

- On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:52 AM, Stephan Budach stephan.bud...@jvm.de wrote:

> +1
> 
> Cheers,
> Stephan
> 
> - Ursprüngliche Mail -
>> Von: "Guenther Alka" 
>> An: "omnios-discuss" 
>> Gesendet: Montag, 27. November 2017 10:15:47
>> Betreff: Re: [OmniOS-discuss] Investing into the Future of OmniOS Community
>>  Edition
>> 
>> hello Tobias
>> 
>> A pure donation modell (pay for something that is available for free)
>> is
>> only ok for small amounts from private persons.
>> 
>> Can this be extended by
>> - a function to request a quotation with a given amount together with
>> a
>> (pro forma) invoice online what makes institutional/edu payments
>> possible
>> (to accept this quotation, pay the amount until..)
>> 
>> - with some sort of an extra offer over the free offerings
>> maybe a Pro subscription to beta/ bloody releases, a knowledgebase or
>> a
>> plus repository
>> 
>> Gea
>> 
>> 
>> Am 26.11.2017 um 23:31 schrieb Tobias Oetiker:
>> > Hi All
>> >
>> > tl;tr? head over to https://omniosce.org/patron and support your
>> > favorite OS with a regular donation.
>> >
>> > Since the OmniOS Community Edition Association has taken over
>> > maintenance and care of OmniOSce, things have been moving at a
>> > brisk pace.
>> >
>> >* Upstream changes from Illumos and Joyent are integrated weekly
>> >into our github repo.
>> >
>> >* Security fixes are normally available within hours.
>> >
>> >* We have committed to an elaborate long term release plan.
>> >
>> >* In early November we have released OmniOS r24 on schedule with
>> >many enhancements.
>> >
>> >* Our new website has a lot of new content on feeding and care
>> >of your OmniOS instance.
>> >
>> > Judging from the 566 systems that have been switched over to our
>> > new repos, downloading regular updates, we think there is ample
>> > interest in OmniOS. Not even taking into account all those who
>> > have not yet upgraded.
>> >
>> > With the release of OmniOSce r24 we have created the OmniOS Patron
>> > Page where you can set up regular contribution or a one time
>> > donation to the project.
>> >
>> > Unfortunately only very few people have yet made the step of
>> > actually pledging funds. According to the straw poll conducted in
>> > spring, there should be at least 80k USD per year available to
>> > those who maintain and release updates for  OmniOS.
>> >
>> > At the moment we are getting about 25 USD per month from 4
>> > individuals. This is pretty bleak and does not even begin to cover
>> > the cost of running the show and certainly does not allow us to
>> > plan for the future.
>> >
>> > Head over to https://omniosce.org/patron and let us know how much
>> > you value OmniOS and our work. If everybody spent just 20 dollar
>> > per system and month things would be looking much brighter
>> > already.
>> >
>> > To put this into perspective: a single O365 Enterprise license
>> > costs 35 USD/month. Most individuals pay a similar amount every
>> > month for the internet connection or mobile phone contract.
>> >
>> > Andy Fiddaman
>> > Dominik Hassler
>> > Tobi Oetiker
>> >
>> > --
>> > OmniOS Community Edition Association
>> > Aarweg 17, 4600 Olten, Switzerland
>> > www.omniosce.org
>> > i...@omniosce.org
>> 
>> --
>> H  f   G
>> Hochschule für Gestaltung
>> university of design
>> 
>> Schwäbisch Gmünd
>> Rektor-Klaus Str. 100
>> 73525 Schwäbisch Gmünd
>> 
>> Guenther Alka, Dipl.-Ing. (FH)
>> Leiter des Rechenzentrums
>> head of computer center
>> 
>> Tel 07171 602 627
>> Fax 07171 69259
>> guenther.a...@hfg-gmuend.de
>> http://rz.hfg-gmuend.de
>> 
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