Re: [OmniOS-discuss] Investing into the Future of OmniOS Community Edition
> From: Tobias Oetiker > Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 4:52 AM > > out of thin air. applying some business logic and risk analysis should make > this > abundantly clear to most people with business responsibilities. Hmm, methinks you don't have a good understanding of the average MBA bean counter 8-/. I was able to convince the management at my university to purchase "commercial support" from OmniTI in order to support OmniOS, but it's quite unlikely I'd be able to get them to "donate money to free software development" 8-/. If something that gave the facade of "commercial support" could be offered, even if it was just "email a list of developers and one will try to reply when they have time" I could try to regain the funding that was going to OmniTI and send it your way. ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
Re: [OmniOS-discuss] Investing into the Future of OmniOS Community Edition
hello Tobias During a contact with a storage systemhouse that intends to offer OmniOS as an additional storage OS, I asked about sponsoring of OmniOS ce and I was asked if there would be an option of something like a gold/silver/bronce patron to bepublished on the patron page. Gea Am 27.11.2017 um 13:52 schrieb Tobias Oetiker: Hi Stephan, Hi Guenther the proforma invoice, yes we will look into that ... what we also discussed is offering some repo with pre compiled packages for a fee. but we are not there yet. still trusting that users realize that omnios does not create itself out of thin air. applying some business logic and risk analysis should make this abundantly clear to most people with business responsibilities. cheers tobi - On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:52 AM, Stephan Budach stephan.bud...@jvm.de wrote: +1 Cheers, Stephan - Ursprüngliche Mail - Von: "Guenther Alka" An: "omnios-discuss" Gesendet: Montag, 27. November 2017 10:15:47 Betreff: Re: [OmniOS-discuss] Investing into the Future of OmniOS Community Edition hello Tobias A pure donation modell (pay for something that is available for free) is only ok for small amounts from private persons. Can this be extended by - a function to request a quotation with a given amount together with a (pro forma) invoice online what makes institutional/edu payments possible (to accept this quotation, pay the amount until..) - with some sort of an extra offer over the free offerings maybe a Pro subscription to beta/ bloody releases, a knowledgebase or a plus repository Gea Am 26.11.2017 um 23:31 schrieb Tobias Oetiker: Hi All tl;tr? head over to https://omniosce.org/patron and support your favorite OS with a regular donation. Since the OmniOS Community Edition Association has taken over maintenance and care of OmniOSce, things have been moving at a brisk pace. * Upstream changes from Illumos and Joyent are integrated weekly into our github repo. * Security fixes are normally available within hours. * We have committed to an elaborate long term release plan. * In early November we have released OmniOS r24 on schedule with many enhancements. * Our new website has a lot of new content on feeding and care of your OmniOS instance. Judging from the 566 systems that have been switched over to our new repos, downloading regular updates, we think there is ample interest in OmniOS. Not even taking into account all those who have not yet upgraded. With the release of OmniOSce r24 we have created the OmniOS Patron Page where you can set up regular contribution or a one time donation to the project. Unfortunately only very few people have yet made the step of actually pledging funds. According to the straw poll conducted in spring, there should be at least 80k USD per year available to those who maintain and release updates for OmniOS. At the moment we are getting about 25 USD per month from 4 individuals. This is pretty bleak and does not even begin to cover the cost of running the show and certainly does not allow us to plan for the future. Head over to https://omniosce.org/patron and let us know how much you value OmniOS and our work. If everybody spent just 20 dollar per system and month things would be looking much brighter already. To put this into perspective: a single O365 Enterprise license costs 35 USD/month. Most individuals pay a similar amount every month for the internet connection or mobile phone contract. Andy Fiddaman Dominik Hassler Tobi Oetiker -- OmniOS Community Edition Association Aarweg 17, 4600 Olten, Switzerland www.omniosce.org i...@omniosce.org ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
Re: [OmniOS-discuss] Investing into the Future of OmniOS Community Edition
Hi Stephan, Hi Guenther the proforma invoice, yes we will look into that ... what we also discussed is offering some repo with pre compiled packages for a fee. but we are not there yet. still trusting that users realize that omnios does not create itself out of thin air. applying some business logic and risk analysis should make this abundantly clear to most people with business responsibilities. cheers tobi - On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:52 AM, Stephan Budach stephan.bud...@jvm.de wrote: > +1 > > Cheers, > Stephan > > - Ursprüngliche Mail - >> Von: "Guenther Alka" >> An: "omnios-discuss" >> Gesendet: Montag, 27. November 2017 10:15:47 >> Betreff: Re: [OmniOS-discuss] Investing into the Future of OmniOS Community >> Edition >> >> hello Tobias >> >> A pure donation modell (pay for something that is available for free) >> is >> only ok for small amounts from private persons. >> >> Can this be extended by >> - a function to request a quotation with a given amount together with >> a >> (pro forma) invoice online what makes institutional/edu payments >> possible >> (to accept this quotation, pay the amount until..) >> >> - with some sort of an extra offer over the free offerings >> maybe a Pro subscription to beta/ bloody releases, a knowledgebase or >> a >> plus repository >> >> Gea >> >> >> Am 26.11.2017 um 23:31 schrieb Tobias Oetiker: >> > Hi All >> > >> > tl;tr? head over to https://omniosce.org/patron and support your >> > favorite OS with a regular donation. >> > >> > Since the OmniOS Community Edition Association has taken over >> > maintenance and care of OmniOSce, things have been moving at a >> > brisk pace. >> > >> >* Upstream changes from Illumos and Joyent are integrated weekly >> >into our github repo. >> > >> >* Security fixes are normally available within hours. >> > >> >* We have committed to an elaborate long term release plan. >> > >> >* In early November we have released OmniOS r24 on schedule with >> >many enhancements. >> > >> >* Our new website has a lot of new content on feeding and care >> >of your OmniOS instance. >> > >> > Judging from the 566 systems that have been switched over to our >> > new repos, downloading regular updates, we think there is ample >> > interest in OmniOS. Not even taking into account all those who >> > have not yet upgraded. >> > >> > With the release of OmniOSce r24 we have created the OmniOS Patron >> > Page where you can set up regular contribution or a one time >> > donation to the project. >> > >> > Unfortunately only very few people have yet made the step of >> > actually pledging funds. According to the straw poll conducted in >> > spring, there should be at least 80k USD per year available to >> > those who maintain and release updates for OmniOS. >> > >> > At the moment we are getting about 25 USD per month from 4 >> > individuals. This is pretty bleak and does not even begin to cover >> > the cost of running the show and certainly does not allow us to >> > plan for the future. >> > >> > Head over to https://omniosce.org/patron and let us know how much >> > you value OmniOS and our work. If everybody spent just 20 dollar >> > per system and month things would be looking much brighter >> > already. >> > >> > To put this into perspective: a single O365 Enterprise license >> > costs 35 USD/month. Most individuals pay a similar amount every >> > month for the internet connection or mobile phone contract. >> > >> > Andy Fiddaman >> > Dominik Hassler >> > Tobi Oetiker >> > >> > -- >> > OmniOS Community Edition Association >> > Aarweg 17, 4600 Olten, Switzerland >> > www.omniosce.org >> > i...@omniosce.org >> >> -- >> H f G >> Hochschule für Gestaltung >> university of design >> >> Schwäbisch Gmünd >> Rektor-Klaus Str. 100 >> 73525 Schwäbisch Gmünd >> >> Guenther Alka, Dipl.-Ing. (FH) >> Leiter des Rechenzentrums >> head of computer center >> >> Tel 07171 602 627 >> Fax 07171 69259 >> guenther.a...@hfg-gmuend.de >> http://rz.hfg-gmuend.de >> >> ___ >> OmniOS-discuss mailing list >> OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com >> http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss >> > > ___ > OmniOS-discuss mailing list > OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com > http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss -- Tobi Oetiker, OETIKER+PARTNER AG, Aarweg 15 CH-4600 Olten, Switzerland www.oetiker.ch t...@oetiker.ch +41 62 775 9902 ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
Re: [OmniOS-discuss] Investing into the Future of OmniOS Community Edition
Hello, for small amounts from private persons it will be better you offer paypal (-donation) too. https://www.paypal.com/de/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_flow&SESSION=0DhZCUoQyUfgZxqWh-_3fbqRqn5hNJFMTEAow8szClc8p7wgNC3c8pDbUeC&dispatch=5885d80a13c0db1f8e263663d3faee8dc3f308debf7330dd8d0b0a9f21afd7d3&rapidsState=Merchant__ButtonDesignerFlow___StateButtonDesignerStart&rapidsStateSignature=885abefea41ef918124519b9a82d2f77d8c3e533 Invoice online or as pdf I prefer too. Tobias, few minutes ago I send my donation by bank wire in EURO. Please check what you get CHF or EURO and how much are the bank charges from your Postfinance AG. Maybe its better when you have a bank account in the EURO-Zone (Germany, France are near to you) because few banks collecting bank charges by wiring to Switzerland. Feedback by PN please. On November, 27 2017, 10:15 wrote in [1]: > hello Tobias > A pure donation modell (pay for something that is available for free) is > only ok for small amounts from private persons. > Can this be extended by > - a function to request a quotation with a given amount together with a > (pro forma) invoice online what makes institutional/edu payments possible > (to accept this quotation, pay the amount until..) > - with some sort of an extra offer over the free offerings > maybe a Pro subscription to beta/ bloody releases, a knowledgebase or a > plus repository > Gea -- Best Regards Alexander November, 27 2017 [1] mid:b9446f72-0d97-ed5c-1f8c-195c0f511...@hfg-gmuend.de ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
Re: [OmniOS-discuss] Investing into the Future of OmniOS Community Edition
+1 Cheers, Stephan - Ursprüngliche Mail - > Von: "Guenther Alka" > An: "omnios-discuss" > Gesendet: Montag, 27. November 2017 10:15:47 > Betreff: Re: [OmniOS-discuss] Investing into the Future of OmniOS Community > Edition > > hello Tobias > > A pure donation modell (pay for something that is available for free) > is > only ok for small amounts from private persons. > > Can this be extended by > - a function to request a quotation with a given amount together with > a > (pro forma) invoice online what makes institutional/edu payments > possible > (to accept this quotation, pay the amount until..) > > - with some sort of an extra offer over the free offerings > maybe a Pro subscription to beta/ bloody releases, a knowledgebase or > a > plus repository > > Gea > > > Am 26.11.2017 um 23:31 schrieb Tobias Oetiker: > > Hi All > > > > tl;tr? head over to https://omniosce.org/patron and support your > > favorite OS with a regular donation. > > > > Since the OmniOS Community Edition Association has taken over > > maintenance and care of OmniOSce, things have been moving at a > > brisk pace. > > > >* Upstream changes from Illumos and Joyent are integrated weekly > >into our github repo. > > > >* Security fixes are normally available within hours. > > > >* We have committed to an elaborate long term release plan. > > > >* In early November we have released OmniOS r24 on schedule with > >many enhancements. > > > >* Our new website has a lot of new content on feeding and care > >of your OmniOS instance. > > > > Judging from the 566 systems that have been switched over to our > > new repos, downloading regular updates, we think there is ample > > interest in OmniOS. Not even taking into account all those who > > have not yet upgraded. > > > > With the release of OmniOSce r24 we have created the OmniOS Patron > > Page where you can set up regular contribution or a one time > > donation to the project. > > > > Unfortunately only very few people have yet made the step of > > actually pledging funds. According to the straw poll conducted in > > spring, there should be at least 80k USD per year available to > > those who maintain and release updates for OmniOS. > > > > At the moment we are getting about 25 USD per month from 4 > > individuals. This is pretty bleak and does not even begin to cover > > the cost of running the show and certainly does not allow us to > > plan for the future. > > > > Head over to https://omniosce.org/patron and let us know how much > > you value OmniOS and our work. If everybody spent just 20 dollar > > per system and month things would be looking much brighter > > already. > > > > To put this into perspective: a single O365 Enterprise license > > costs 35 USD/month. Most individuals pay a similar amount every > > month for the internet connection or mobile phone contract. > > > > Andy Fiddaman > > Dominik Hassler > > Tobi Oetiker > > > > -- > > OmniOS Community Edition Association > > Aarweg 17, 4600 Olten, Switzerland > > www.omniosce.org > > i...@omniosce.org > > -- > H f G > Hochschule für Gestaltung > university of design > > Schwäbisch Gmünd > Rektor-Klaus Str. 100 > 73525 Schwäbisch Gmünd > > Guenther Alka, Dipl.-Ing. (FH) > Leiter des Rechenzentrums > head of computer center > > Tel 07171 602 627 > Fax 07171 69259 > guenther.a...@hfg-gmuend.de > http://rz.hfg-gmuend.de > > ___ > OmniOS-discuss mailing list > OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com > http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
Re: [OmniOS-discuss] Investing into the Future of OmniOS Community Edition
hello Tobias A pure donation modell (pay for something that is available for free) is only ok for small amounts from private persons. Can this be extended by - a function to request a quotation with a given amount together with a (pro forma) invoice online what makes institutional/edu payments possible (to accept this quotation, pay the amount until..) - with some sort of an extra offer over the free offerings maybe a Pro subscription to beta/ bloody releases, a knowledgebase or a plus repository Gea Am 26.11.2017 um 23:31 schrieb Tobias Oetiker: Hi All tl;tr? head over to https://omniosce.org/patron and support your favorite OS with a regular donation. Since the OmniOS Community Edition Association has taken over maintenance and care of OmniOSce, things have been moving at a brisk pace. * Upstream changes from Illumos and Joyent are integrated weekly into our github repo. * Security fixes are normally available within hours. * We have committed to an elaborate long term release plan. * In early November we have released OmniOS r24 on schedule with many enhancements. * Our new website has a lot of new content on feeding and care of your OmniOS instance. Judging from the 566 systems that have been switched over to our new repos, downloading regular updates, we think there is ample interest in OmniOS. Not even taking into account all those who have not yet upgraded. With the release of OmniOSce r24 we have created the OmniOS Patron Page where you can set up regular contribution or a one time donation to the project. Unfortunately only very few people have yet made the step of actually pledging funds. According to the straw poll conducted in spring, there should be at least 80k USD per year available to those who maintain and release updates for OmniOS. At the moment we are getting about 25 USD per month from 4 individuals. This is pretty bleak and does not even begin to cover the cost of running the show and certainly does not allow us to plan for the future. Head over to https://omniosce.org/patron and let us know how much you value OmniOS and our work. If everybody spent just 20 dollar per system and month things would be looking much brighter already. To put this into perspective: a single O365 Enterprise license costs 35 USD/month. Most individuals pay a similar amount every month for the internet connection or mobile phone contract. Andy Fiddaman Dominik Hassler Tobi Oetiker -- OmniOS Community Edition Association Aarweg 17, 4600 Olten, Switzerland www.omniosce.org i...@omniosce.org -- H f G Hochschule für Gestaltung university of design Schwäbisch Gmünd Rektor-Klaus Str. 100 73525 Schwäbisch Gmünd Guenther Alka, Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Leiter des Rechenzentrums head of computer center Tel 07171 602 627 Fax 07171 69259 guenther.a...@hfg-gmuend.de http://rz.hfg-gmuend.de ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
Re: [OmniOS-discuss] Investing into the Future of OmniOS Community Edition
Hi Alexander, thanks you for the idea ... I have updated the webpage IBAN CH22 0900 6188 9767 7 BIC POFICHBEXX Verein OmniOS Community Edition If there are other requirements, like us sending invoices or some such, please let us know. We are trying something new here ... cheers tobi - On Nov 27, 2017, at 12:16 AM, Alexander Lesle gro...@tierarzt-mueller.de wrote: > Guten Abend Tobias Oetiker, > > at https://omniosce.org/patron are no information about the > payment methods. > Can you offer for the Europeans your account informations > IBAN and BIC on this page please. > > -- > Best Regards > Alexander > November, 27 2017 -- Tobi Oetiker, OETIKER+PARTNER AG, Aarweg 15 CH-4600 Olten, Switzerland www.oetiker.ch t...@oetiker.ch +41 62 775 9902 ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
Re: [OmniOS-discuss] Investing into the Future of OmniOS Community Edition
Guten Abend Tobias Oetiker, at https://omniosce.org/patron are no information about the payment methods. Can you offer for the Europeans your account informations IBAN and BIC on this page please. -- Best Regards Alexander November, 27 2017 ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
[OmniOS-discuss] Investing into the Future of OmniOS Community Edition
Hi All tl;tr? head over to https://omniosce.org/patron and support your favorite OS with a regular donation. Since the OmniOS Community Edition Association has taken over maintenance and care of OmniOSce, things have been moving at a brisk pace. * Upstream changes from Illumos and Joyent are integrated weekly into our github repo. * Security fixes are normally available within hours. * We have committed to an elaborate long term release plan. * In early November we have released OmniOS r24 on schedule with many enhancements. * Our new website has a lot of new content on feeding and care of your OmniOS instance. Judging from the 566 systems that have been switched over to our new repos, downloading regular updates, we think there is ample interest in OmniOS. Not even taking into account all those who have not yet upgraded. With the release of OmniOSce r24 we have created the OmniOS Patron Page where you can set up regular contribution or a one time donation to the project. Unfortunately only very few people have yet made the step of actually pledging funds. According to the straw poll conducted in spring, there should be at least 80k USD per year available to those who maintain and release updates for OmniOS. At the moment we are getting about 25 USD per month from 4 individuals. This is pretty bleak and does not even begin to cover the cost of running the show and certainly does not allow us to plan for the future. Head over to https://omniosce.org/patron and let us know how much you value OmniOS and our work. If everybody spent just 20 dollar per system and month things would be looking much brighter already. To put this into perspective: a single O365 Enterprise license costs 35 USD/month. Most individuals pay a similar amount every month for the internet connection or mobile phone contract. Andy Fiddaman Dominik Hassler Tobi Oetiker -- OmniOS Community Edition Association Aarweg 17, 4600 Olten, Switzerland www.omniosce.org i...@omniosce.org ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
