Re: [OmniOS-discuss] switching from Stable to LTS
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 17:13:50 -0400 Dan McDonald wrote: > > OK but let's say despite all the warnings I were going to try > > anyway. Would it be possible to set up a LTS non-global zone on a > > machine on which Stable is installed? > > No. So, er, that's a "no" then ? ;-) > The only way [...] > > You do realize that the next stable OmniOS is also going to be the > next LTS release, right? If you can manage until springtime, there > will be a new LTS release, and I suspect much of omniti-ms will be > appropriately updated. Ah ... thinks Northern hemisphere ... so that would be say March 2015? I can keep busy with other things till then, or Steffen Kram's build. Thanks. Of course the real answer is to set up my own package-building system, but time. Michael. ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
Re: [OmniOS-discuss] switching from Stable to LTS
> On Oct 24, 2014, at 4:56 PM, Michael Mounteney wrote: > > On Fri, 3 Oct 2014 01:11:31 +0200 > Michael Rasmussen wrote: > >> I think the generel consensus is that unless you are very very very >> knowledgeable in the darkest corners of Illumos, having patience above >> and beyond the call of duty, have loads of spare time, and only have a >> server populated with data of absolut nonsense you should never even >> think of downgrading your server(s). > > OK but let's say despite all the warnings I were going to try anyway. > Would it be possible to set up a LTS non-global zone on a machine on > which Stable is installed? No. The only way to even come close to approaching that would be to run a KVM zone, and put OmniOS LTS in that. There are also pitfalls in doing so (similar to the pitfalls of running TCP over TCP... in this case, running ZFS volumes that will become proper ZFS filesystems). You do realize that the next stable OmniOS is also going to be the next LTS release, right? If you can manage until springtime, there will be a new LTS release, and I suspect much of omniti-ms will be appropriately updated. Dan ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
Re: [OmniOS-discuss] switching from Stable to LTS
On Fri, 3 Oct 2014 01:11:31 +0200 Michael Rasmussen wrote: > I think the generel consensus is that unless you are very very very > knowledgeable in the darkest corners of Illumos, having patience above > and beyond the call of duty, have loads of spare time, and only have a > server populated with data of absolut nonsense you should never even > think of downgrading your server(s). OK but let's say despite all the warnings I were going to try anyway. Would it be possible to set up a LTS non-global zone on a machine on which Stable is installed? Michael. ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
Re: [OmniOS-discuss] switching from Stable to LTS
On Oct 2, 2014, at 7:11 PM, Michael Rasmussen wrote: > > I think the generel consensus is that unless you are very very very > knowledgeable in the darkest corners of Illumos, IPS, not illumos. IPS, in spite of having its metadata in illumos-gate, is not part of illumos itself. > having patience above > and beyond the call of duty, have loads of spare time, and only have a > server populated with data of absolut nonsense you should never even > think of downgrading your server(s). Dan ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
Re: [OmniOS-discuss] switching from Stable to LTS
> but that won't fix the zones. I wonder if a more simple answer is to have > one zone just for openldap, on LTS, and the rest of the system on Stable, > if that's possible. > > Obviously I could just reinstall but that's painful. > > Any other ideas? Thanks, Michael. I think the generel consensus is that unless you are very very very knowledgeable in the darkest corners of Illumos, having patience above and beyond the call of duty, have loads of spare time, and only have a server populated with data of absolut nonsense you should never even think of downgrading your server(s). -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE3E80917 -- /usr/games/fortune -es says: > Where in the US is Linus? He was in the "Promise Land". -- David S. Miller pgp36ceRM0D_H.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
Re: [OmniOS-discuss] switching from Stable to LTS
Going backwards is VERY difficult. IPS assumes progress is forward, and penalizes you accordingly. (cf the recent CherryPy incident in bloody). Sorry I can't help more, Dan Sent from my iPhone (typos, autocorrect, and all) > On Oct 2, 2014, at 6:38 PM, Michael Mounteney wrote: > > Thanks for the answers to my question about installing openldap-server. > As I would prefer to limit the number of repositories from which I'm > taking packages, I'm considering switching to LTS so I can take packages > from OmniTI. > > I'm sure I saw somewhere how to switch from one release to another but > can't find the instructions now. It seems to me that the process would be > something like: > > clone the current BE to something like omnios-LTS. > use pkg -R /rpool/omnios-LTS er_something to switch the release of > omnios-LTS. > use pkg -R /rpool/omnios-LTS update > reboot into BE omnios-LTS > > but that won't fix the zones. I wonder if a more simple answer is to have > one zone just for openldap, on LTS, and the rest of the system on Stable, > if that's possible. > > Obviously I could just reinstall but that's painful. > > Any other ideas? Thanks, Michael. > ___ > OmniOS-discuss mailing list > OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com > http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
[OmniOS-discuss] switching from Stable to LTS
Thanks for the answers to my question about installing openldap-server. As I would prefer to limit the number of repositories from which I'm taking packages, I'm considering switching to LTS so I can take packages from OmniTI. I'm sure I saw somewhere how to switch from one release to another but can't find the instructions now. It seems to me that the process would be something like: clone the current BE to something like omnios-LTS. use pkg -R /rpool/omnios-LTS er_something to switch the release of omnios-LTS. use pkg -R /rpool/omnios-LTS update reboot into BE omnios-LTS but that won't fix the zones. I wonder if a more simple answer is to have one zone just for openldap, on LTS, and the rest of the system on Stable, if that's possible. Obviously I could just reinstall but that's painful. Any other ideas? Thanks, Michael. ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss
