Re: [onap-tsc] Mailing list netiquette

2019-01-14 Thread Alexis de Talhouet


> On Jan 8, 2019, at 6:02 PM, Krzysztof Opasiak  wrote:
> 
> Please share your opinion about above issues.

I do agree having ML practices for ONAP would be beneficial, and I’m all
in favour the two mentioned points. I’m not sure how to enforce but I believe
it is more a best / educational practices.

> If you would like to have some discussion about that or to present to 
> the broader audience on this topic I'm available during current event.


I believe it worth having a discussion about this; could be a 15mn item during
TSC meeting.

Thanks,
Alexis
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[onap-tsc] Mailing list netiquette

2019-01-13 Thread Krzysztof Opasiak
Dear TSC members,

As a follow up to my comment on ONAP wiki[1], I would like to propose to 
make ONAP mailing lists following USENET and other good ML practices 
followed by most of Open Source related mailing lists (for example [2]).

Currently there is probably no defined (or at least I haven't found one) 
mailing list netiquette for ONAP. This results in:

1) HTML content being sent to the list

This is not only annoying for people who for a security reasons read 
emails in plain text but also can be used as a potential attack vector 
to spread the malware to many ONAP developers at once even without 
having their emails. That's why many of open source mailing list (like 
linux kernel one for example) simply rejects all the emails that are not 
sent in plain text.

2) Top posting without any proper citing

Why it is bad:

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

It's very hard to follow the discussion when people use top posting. I 
don't want to blame anyone so I don't provide any link to the archive 
but I recommend to just try to open any longer (above 10 messages) topic 
and then try to read, understand and guess who wrote which part of the 
email and how a consensus has been reached.

3) Fancy html footers in emails

html footers are really nice in a corporate environment but when it 
comes to mailing lists collaboration they cause only problems. First 
problem is related to #1 (HTML in ML is a potential security issue). 
Second one is very prosaic, when you read emails in plain text those 
footer are hard to be distinguished from email content because all the 
fancy formatting is stripped off. The alternative (which is recognized 
by most of email clients) to that is simple plain text footer separated 
with two dashes from email knowledge.


Please share your opinion about above issues.
If you would like to have some discussion about that or to present to 
the broader audience on this topic I'm available during current event.

Footnotes:
1 - https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/Mailing+Lists
2 - http://linux.sgms-centre.com/misc/netiquette.php
-- 
Krzysztof Opasiak
Samsung R Institute Poland
Samsung Electronics

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