Re: File: readme.xrm
On 10/22/12 10:51 PM, Keith N. McKenna wrote: jan iversen wrote: +1, That is a very good point !! But may we can still write it as plain text, put some tags in, and use sed to split when generating installation sets ? The readme needs some refresh anyway, we should start to prepare a new readme first for all supported platforms and should think later on how we can manage it best during the build process and with the translation. Juergen janI On 22 October 2012 18:00, Keith N. McKenna keith.mcke...@comcast.netwrote: jan iversen wrote: As far as I can see on the usage are your assumption correct, and there must be other ways to make different readme text platform dependent. Would it not be ok, to have one readme for all platforms, and in the text mention the specics ? janI On 22 October 2012 13:34, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/21/12 2:16 PM, jan iversen wrote: There is exactly one file with extension .xrm main/read_license_oo/docs/**readme/readme.xrm is there a reason (apart from history) for it being in .xrm or could it be converted to e.g. .xhp ? If so we could get rid of one more conversion tool (read: does not need to be converted to new code). I am not sure if xhp would be a good option here. But we can probably switch to something else. Maybe a common readme file that gets extended with platform specific portions from other files. When I remember it correctly the xrm files contains the content for the readme file and depending on the platform different content is extracted from this file. Juergen Jan; That may indeed be one way to do it. My concern is that users will get frustrated trying to wade through the info for the other platforms and just not bother with it at all. Of course based on the way they read the release notes they probably don't read it anyway. Be that as it may do we want to give them another reason not to read it and possible miss pertinent information. Regards Keith +1 Works for me.
Re: Need new logo for openoffice.apache.org
Alexandro Colorado wrote: On 10/22/12, Kay Schenk wrote: hmmm...well, OK. I think I remember something like this now. Should we use Alexandro's new one at: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27834483/ApacheOpenOfficeTM.svg AFAIK there was no resolution on the fonts, the discussion ended on asking Michael Acevedo, but he never replied. Exactly. And this means we cannot use Alexandro's SVG since it is not a 100% reproduction of the bitmap by Michael Acevedo (the orb is perfectly done in SVG and it is the only SVG version of the orb we have available, since we never received one from Oracle; but the text has a slightly different formatting). We have two separate issues here: 1) Collecting and consolidating all versions of the logo we are using; here a 95% accuracy is not acceptable. These versions should be placed under http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/ or anyway under SVN. 2) Collecting proposals that can be useful as inspiration for a new visual identity; here it is of course acceptable to have variants of the official logos, but these should remain proposals and be placed in the wiki or such, possibly in pages that do not confuse a reader who types OpenOffice logo in a search engine. Regards, Andrea.
Re: Need new logo for openoffice.apache.org
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.comwrote: Let's move this insight into the wikis and document. Moving forward, we can prepare a visual identity style guide. I put some material up on the wiki back in January. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Branding+Design and https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Branding+Style+Guide It is important that we have a fresh pallet and brand image for 4.0 and I don't think that we should necessarily be wedded to the past given that we are in a whole new ballgame, especially as now we have achieved graduation. cheers GL On Tuesday, October 23, 2012, Alexandro Colorado wrote: On 10/22/12, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: On 10/22/2012 03:42 PM, RGB ES wrote: 2012/10/23 Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com javascript:; On 10/22/2012 02:18 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 20/10/2012 imacat wrote: I happen to have a 300x100 logo at hand, so I updated it. Feel free to revise it if you feel my uploaded logo is ugly. I think that this was good as a temporary solution, but that we should delete it now, since it has different colors and we don't want variants (in fonts, colors) of the chosen logo around unless they are clearly marked as proposals. The reference logo is http://www.openoffice.org/**images/AOO_logos/AOO-logo-**hires.jpg http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/AOO-logo-hires.jpg and apparently it was supplied as a JPG; PNG would be much better, SVG would be totally better, but the source so far is this one and it was contributed by Michael Acevedo. What we have in SVG and (possibly) PNG was derived from this one. svg should be: http://www.openoffice.org/**images/AOO_logos/svg/OOo_**Website_v2_copy.svg http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/svg/OOo_Website_v2_copy.svg AFAIK, that svg is just a container for the raster image: it do not contain a vector image. Regards Ricardo hmmm...well, OK. I think I remember something like this now. Should we use Alexandro's new one at: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27834483/ApacheOpenOfficeTM.svg AFAIK there was no resolution on the fonts, the discussion ended on asking Michael Acevedo, but he never replied. However since we are discussing this changes, it would be a good idea to jump to an open font type, like Nimbus or Liberation and have a deadline to reach a conclusion. From other discussions about the icons, there is a bit of a push back on accepting Oracle's impositions like the Orb and the Galaxy themes. Rob's idea is that we actually have a more Visual Design documentation that take advantage of the design elements we currently have, and maybe generate new ones. should we give it a better name? The logo at http://incubator.apache.org/**openofficeorg/images/300x100_**dj_trans.png http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/images/300x100_dj_trans.png has different colors and different fonts so I would remove it now that it is no longer used at http://incubator.apache.org/**openofficeorg/ http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/; or is it still being used somewhere? Regards, Andrea. -- --**--** MzK Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat. -- Robert Heinlein -- MzK Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat. -- Robert Heinlein -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice http://es.openoffice.org
Re: [ApacheCon EU] China: Visas to Germany
On 23/10/2012 Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: On 22 October 2012 22:50, Peter Junge wrote: As well, I'm also following the ApacheCon list and didn't notice the issue there, except Chinese AOO committers asking for invitation letters. Okay; thanks. I then really want to press the idea of tele-video/conferencing. I've asked about teleconferencing options; you will be able to follow the discussion at http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-apachecon-discuss/201210.mbox/browser and indeed Louis' idea can be a solution if we have a group of speakers who cannot attend in person. I guess that in that case we will also want to rearrange the schedule so that it is friendlier to people in the Chinese timezone, but this is easily done in case. Regards, Andrea.
Re: Need new logo for openoffice.apache.org
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgwrote: Alexandro Colorado wrote: On 10/22/12, Kay Schenk wrote: hmmm...well, OK. I think I remember something like this now. Should we use Alexandro's new one at: https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/download/**attachments/27834483/** ApacheOpenOfficeTM.svghttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27834483/ApacheOpenOfficeTM.svg AFAIK there was no resolution on the fonts, the discussion ended on asking Michael Acevedo, but he never replied. Exactly. And this means we cannot use Alexandro's SVG since it is not a 100% reproduction of the bitmap by Michael Acevedo (the orb is perfectly done in SVG and it is the only SVG version of the orb we have available, since we never received one from Oracle; but the text has a slightly different formatting). The SVG was done by Alexandro from Michael's bitmap IIRC. Michael's was never official, it was just the one that happened to be available. There was never any consensus that Michael's was going to be anything other than a stop-gap for a first release from the ApacheOO podling. Going forward there needs to be proposals and discussion and a new branding that reflects the New OpenOffice. We have two separate issues here: that reflects this community 1) Collecting and consolidating all versions of the logo we are using; here a 95% accuracy is not acceptable. These versions should be placed under http://www.openoffice.org/**images/AOO_logos/http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/or anyway under SVN. 2) Collecting proposals that can be useful as inspiration for a new visual identity; here it is of course acceptable to have variants of the official logos, but these should remain proposals and be placed in the wiki or such, possibly in pages that do not confuse a reader who types OpenOffice logo in a search engine. The new branding should have been discussed when I first brought it up last year. Any logos that are in use now, are stopgaps nothing more. They are simply rehashes of an old brand, we need shake off the Oracle detritus and make our own mark, one that is owned and created by the Apache OpenOffice community. Cheers GL Regards, Andrea.
Re: [ApacheCon EU] China: Visas to Germany
On 10/23/12 9:14 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 23/10/2012 Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: On 22 October 2012 22:50, Peter Junge wrote: As well, I'm also following the ApacheCon list and didn't notice the issue there, except Chinese AOO committers asking for invitation letters. Okay; thanks. I then really want to press the idea of tele-video/conferencing. I've asked about teleconferencing options; you will be able to follow the discussion at http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-apachecon-discuss/201210.mbox/browser and indeed Louis' idea can be a solution if we have a group of speakers who cannot attend in person. I guess that in that case we will also want to rearrange the schedule so that it is friendlier to people in the Chinese timezone, but this is easily done in case. The idea is not new and we have already addressed it but it seems that it is not possible or better that we can't relay on it. The organizers recommend to record the presentation for playback. Juergen
Re: [RELEASE]: propose a new developer snapshot based on revision 1400796
On 10/22/12 6:19 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: we provide snapshot only every 2 weeks or every 4 weeks, maybe we should provide full install sets. But we can easy change that if it doesn't work. Would it help if we provide the Linux 64 bit version? I think we have proper build client in place to build. That would reduce the amount of data for the upload for you. I have no problems as long as we use the same switches and system base. Well Herbert knows for sure but he builds on RedHat Enterprise Linux 6 and I hope with the same switches ;-) Will check it .. are you planning full install sets + language packs for every language? no, only full install sets Juergen Regards
Re: Directory main/swext/mediawiki
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 6:24 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: I have looked for a newer source, since it was moved, but our own extensions has a broken link and sourceForge does not offer any help. Any ideas ?? Hi Jan, I don't think I've received any request from you, please let me know what's the problem, and I'll do my best to help you. Roberto It is a sun part, so we should have inherited it or not ? jan. On 20 October 2012 23:52, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 2:50 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: I am a bit confused. We have a directory named main/swext/mediawiki. Is that the sun wiki publisher 1.1 or are there 2 different mediawiki export extensions ? I ask because I sun wiki publisher 1.1 installed, but if I change the XLS and rebuilt AOO but it does not seem to have an effect. Yes I think it was started on core, and then sent to a separate extensions. Same thing happened with smarttags IIRC. Either I make a wrong assumption or life is not so simple as I would it to be :-) thanks in advance. jan. -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice http://es.openoffice.org -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Need new logo for openoffice.apache.org
On Tuesday, October 23, 2012, Graham Lauder wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgjavascript:; wrote: Alexandro Colorado wrote: On 10/22/12, Kay Schenk wrote: hmmm...well, OK. I think I remember something like this now. Should we use Alexandro's new one at: https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/download/**attachments/27834483/** ApacheOpenOfficeTM.svg https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27834483/ApacheOpenOfficeTM.svg AFAIK there was no resolution on the fonts, the discussion ended on asking Michael Acevedo, but he never replied. Exactly. And this means we cannot use Alexandro's SVG since it is not a 100% reproduction of the bitmap by Michael Acevedo (the orb is perfectly done in SVG and it is the only SVG version of the orb we have available, since we never received one from Oracle; but the text has a slightly different formatting). The SVG was done by Alexandro from Michael's bitmap IIRC. Michael's was never official, it was just the one that happened to be available. There was never any consensus that Michael's was going to be anything other than a stop-gap for a first release from the ApacheOO podling. Going forward there needs to be proposals and discussion and a new branding that reflects the New OpenOffice. KG01 - agreed, lets start exploring design directions. I'll share my designs shortly. On training this week, just need some time at home office :) We have two separate issues here: that reflects this community 1) Collecting and consolidating all versions of the logo we are using; here a 95% accuracy is not acceptable. These versions should be placed under http://www.openoffice.org/**images/AOO_logos/ http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/or anyway under SVN. 2) Collecting proposals that can be useful as inspiration for a new visual identity; here it is of course acceptable to have variants of the official logos, but these should remain proposals and be placed in the wiki or such, possibly in pages that do not confuse a reader who types OpenOffice logo in a search engine. The new branding should have been discussed when I first brought it up last year. Any logos that are in use now, are stopgaps nothing more. They are simply rehashes of an old brand, we need shake off the Oracle detritus and make our own mark, one that is owned and created by the Apache OpenOffice community. Cheers GL Regards, Andrea.
Re: Directory main/swext/mediawiki
Thanks. I have not sent a specific request to you, but asked it as a general question (because I did not know who to ask). In the meantime, I found out that the sources in swext/mediawiki are in use, so I have compiled AOO with --enable-wiki-publisher. Now my only problem is that, when I install the ocx via extension manager, I get a dialog box, stating that there might be a problem with description.xml because there is a license problem. I have tried to configure --with-lang=en, and rebuilt AOO, but that does not seem to help. So if you have an idea I would be thankfull. Are you working with the mediawiki sources, because the reason I do this was to fix a couple of problems I have found. Jan. On 23 October 2012 10:06, Roberto Galoppini rgalopp...@geek.net wrote: On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 6:24 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: I have looked for a newer source, since it was moved, but our own extensions has a broken link and sourceForge does not offer any help. Any ideas ?? Hi Jan, I don't think I've received any request from you, please let me know what's the problem, and I'll do my best to help you. Roberto It is a sun part, so we should have inherited it or not ? jan. On 20 October 2012 23:52, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 2:50 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: I am a bit confused. We have a directory named main/swext/mediawiki. Is that the sun wiki publisher 1.1 or are there 2 different mediawiki export extensions ? I ask because I sun wiki publisher 1.1 installed, but if I change the XLS and rebuilt AOO but it does not seem to have an effect. Yes I think it was started on core, and then sent to a separate extensions. Same thing happened with smarttags IIRC. Either I make a wrong assumption or life is not so simple as I would it to be :-) thanks in advance. jan. -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice http://es.openoffice.org -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Teaser of Mosaic Fun with OpenOffice Calc
It was very funny and clever. On 10/23/12, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: Very convincing ! Jan. On 22 October 2012 22:47, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: imacat wrote: Teaser of Mosaic Fun with OpenOffice Calc Without Adv.: http://youtu.be/g0XBetqW7IQ With Adv.:http://youtu.be/LYFDLzagyNA Please come join us in ApacheCon Europe 2012! ^_*' Nice, looking forward to seeing more! Andrea -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice http://es.openoffice.org
Re: [RELEASE]: propose a new developer snapshot based on revision 1400796
Hi On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:02 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: Would it help if we provide the Linux 64 bit version? I think we have proper build client in place to build. That would reduce the amount of data for the upload for you. I have no problems as long as we use the same switches and system base. Well Herbert knows for sure but he builds on RedHat Enterprise Linux 6 and I hope with the same switches ;-) Will check it .. I'm building on CentOS 5 (RHEL 5), due to bug https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119385 are you planning full install sets + language packs for every language? no, only full install sets we should upload at least the en-US language pack, it is very useful to have a default en-US installation too, that you can launch with -env:UserInstallation=DIR to compare translated UI with the original. Regards
Re: IPR PERMISSION
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 6:18 AM, Peter Junge peter.ju...@gmx.org wrote: Dear Sumanyu Satpathy, we have been receiving several emails with attached documents in the moderation queue of this mailing list. As far as I understand it, you want to obtain permissions to use several screenshots of OpenOffice in publications. Hi Peter, If they are asking to use screenshots of OpenOffice in a book, we've received several requests like this in the past. The policy for this is here: http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/faq/#insidebook If there use matches that description they could contact tradema...@apache.org directly, per the above policy. -Rob Please, do not send one request for permission per every screen shot. Just contact this list (ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org) and describe your concern in general. I'm sure we'll find an easy solution. For now, I'm not moderating your other messages through because the attachments will be stripped of anyway. Best regards, Peter On 10/23/2012 5:30 PM, ILLL Copyright wrote: Please find the attachment.
Re: File: readme.xrm
Hi On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:43 AM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: Juergen: Is it just textual refresh or also content ? If it is just textual I can do it, for content I would need input. IMO we should remove the system requirements information, and point to the web site. Regards
Re: [RELEASE]: propose a new developer snapshot based on revision 1400796
On 23.10.2012 10:02, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 10/22/12 6:19 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: we provide snapshot only every 2 weeks or every 4 weeks, maybe we should provide full install sets. But we can easy change that if it doesn't work. Would it help if we provide the Linux 64 bit version? I think we have proper build client in place to build. That would reduce the amount of data for the upload for you. I have no problems as long as we use the same switches and system base. Well Herbert knows for sure but he builds on RedHat Enterprise Linux 6 and I hope with the same switches ;-) Will check it .. My options to run a production system in our network are limited to a specialized release of RHEL6, which doesn't support mingw-*, so no, I cannot run the same switches as the ones Ariel documented in the wiki page on dev-snapshot. Also Ariel is using RHEL5/CentOS5 which is preferable for compatibility options. If I had to build the most compatible release that would be my option too if it were not for the constraints hinted at above. It would be possible to setup special virtual machines without any network connection that had more liberties, but I'm not sure if jumping through all those hoops would be all that wise. Other than that I think that for our unix/bsd-platforms the package format archive (a.k.a. tar.gz) would be a good idea for dev-snapshot builds without system integration. They are very easy to unpack, test, compare and are easily removable in the most clean way. Herbert
Re: svn commit: r835763 - /infrastructure/buildbot/aegis/buildmaster/master1/projects/openofficeorg.conf
Sent from my iPad On Oct 23, 2012, at 2:03 AM, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote: Hi Andrew, On 22.10.2012 20:14, Andrew Rist wrote: This was a good try - but http://ci.apache.org/builders/aoo-win7/builds/356/steps/compile_1/logs/err.html will look at it a bit later... I saw that you already fixed the missing 's', thanks a lot! On a second look I think that using the python string interpolation style %(rsync_opts)s but changed to %(rsync_opts:-)s for defaulting to an empty string could make the script cleaner and more robust. I think we should use one form or the other consistently. I don't particularly care one way or the other, as long as it is consistent throughout the file. A. Herbert
Updated Stats page
I've moved the download stats to its own page: http://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html That allowed me to give a fuller description of what the stats are, how they were gathered, etc. I think we should aim for this level of detail and transparency in any claims we make. This move then allowed me to clean up the Stats home page a little, and include links to other charts we have, as well as add a section (with caveats) on 3rd party stats: http://www.openoffice.org/stats/ If anyone has ideas for other relevant stats that might be interested, I'd be interested in adding more. I can help on the data wrangling and charting side.I'd love to have a regular chart on wiki and forums traffic or edits or posts or whatever. This doesn't need to be totally automated. For example, it could be something where someone volunteers to run a monthly report and posts that new stat once a month. Regards, -Rob
Re: Updated Stats page
+1, fine page. Monthly should be enough. Would it be worth to consider to include the country discussion (e.g. list top 5 countries, and the total number) ? Jan. On 23 October 2012 17:20, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: I've moved the download stats to its own page: http://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html That allowed me to give a fuller description of what the stats are, how they were gathered, etc. I think we should aim for this level of detail and transparency in any claims we make. This move then allowed me to clean up the Stats home page a little, and include links to other charts we have, as well as add a section (with caveats) on 3rd party stats: http://www.openoffice.org/stats/ If anyone has ideas for other relevant stats that might be interested, I'd be interested in adding more. I can help on the data wrangling and charting side.I'd love to have a regular chart on wiki and forums traffic or edits or posts or whatever. This doesn't need to be totally automated. For example, it could be something where someone volunteers to run a monthly report and posts that new stat once a month. Regards, -Rob
unowinreg.dll: can't load ia 32-bit .dll on a amd 64-bit platform
Dear all, The unowinreg.dll from OpenOffice SDK does not work with Windows Java 64-bit VM. OpenOffice client applications built with unowinreg.dll will not work on 64bit 64-bit Windows with Java 64-bit VM installed. As 64-bit Windows and 64-bit Java VM is very common now, this makes OpenOffice client applications unavailable on many places. I think a 64-bit unowinreg.dll and a mechanism for switching between 32-bit and 64-bit unowinreg.dll should be provided in the OpenOffice loader in OpenOffice SDK. The console log is below. An issue is filed: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121258 C:\java -version java version 1.7.0_09 Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_09-b05) Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 23.5-b02, mixed mode) C:\java -jar D:calcmosaic.jar Exception in thread main java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: C:\Users\imacat\AppData\Local\Temp\unowinreg1072712583236131558.dll: Can't load IA 32-bit .dll on a AMD 64-bit platform at java.lang.ClassLoader$NativeLibrary.load(Native Method) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary1(Unknown Source) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary0(Unknown Source) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary(Unknown Source) at java.lang.Runtime.load0(Unknown Source) at java.lang.System.load(Unknown Source) at com.sun.star.lib.loader.WinRegKey.clinit(WinRegKey.java:81) at com.sun.star.lib.loader.InstallationFinder.getPathFromWindowsRegistry(InstallationFinder.java:197) at com.sun.star.lib.loader.InstallationFinder.getPath(InstallationFinder.java:105) at com.sun.star.lib.loader.Loader.getCustomLoader(Loader.java:170) at com.sun.star.lib.loader.Loader.main(Loader.java:130) C:\ -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ Apache OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Wiki robots.txt
As no objection was seen, I have removed robots.txt on our Wiki host. Please speak out if anyone still found an problem that we should keep it. On 2012/10/22 17:33, Rory O'Farrell said: On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:29:18 +0200 Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote: On 21.10.2012 15:13, imacat wrote: I found the following rule in the robots.txt of our wiki: User-Agent: * Disallow: / Does any know if there is any special reason why it is set so? Does any have any reason to keep it? I'm thinking of removing this rule. +1, blocking all search robots makes no sense. Google etc. are also much more successful in finding relevant results to non-trivial searches. The wiki-builtin search had many problems [1], many of which are fixed in the meantime though. [1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Search_issues Herbert +1 -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ Apache OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Updated Stats page
A report would serve the same purpose, and posted with regular intervals (like 1 month), with figures based on e.g. last month, last half year. jan. On 23 October 2012 18:00, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:23 AM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: +1, fine page. Monthly should be enough. Would it be worth to consider to include the country discussion (e.g. list top 5 countries, and the total number) ? I'll take a look to see if there is anything interesting here. But my guess is the top 5 countries will be static over time, and would not be an interesting chart or a time series. But maybe we could periodically post a table of these numbers? I have a pythons script that gathers these numbers and generates a CSV report. It would be easy to have it write out an HTML page instead. -Rob Jan. On 23 October 2012 17:20, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: I've moved the download stats to its own page: http://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html That allowed me to give a fuller description of what the stats are, how they were gathered, etc. I think we should aim for this level of detail and transparency in any claims we make. This move then allowed me to clean up the Stats home page a little, and include links to other charts we have, as well as add a section (with caveats) on 3rd party stats: http://www.openoffice.org/stats/ If anyone has ideas for other relevant stats that might be interested, I'd be interested in adding more. I can help on the data wrangling and charting side.I'd love to have a regular chart on wiki and forums traffic or edits or posts or whatever. This doesn't need to be totally automated. For example, it could be something where someone volunteers to run a monthly report and posts that new stat once a month. Regards, -Rob
Re: Extensions website unavailable?
I have no problem with download, but extensions is down seen from spain as well, but extensions have been rather unstable the last couple of days. I do not know why. jan On 23 October 2012 17:31, John Myerson john.myer...@blueyonder.co.ukwrote: The link http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/ from http://www.openoffice.org/download/ is not available at present. John Myerson
Re: Extensions website unavailable?
On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:12:52 +0200 jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: I have no problem with download, but extensions is down seen from spain as well, but extensions have been rather unstable the last couple of days. I do not know why. jan On 23 October 2012 17:31, John Myerson john.myer...@blueyonder.co.ukwrote: The link http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/ from http://www.openoffice.org/download/ is not available at present. John Myerson It was OK at 10:30 (GMT+1) today. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: Need new logo for openoffice.apache.org
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.comwrote: On Tuesday, October 23, 2012, Graham Lauder wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org javascript:; wrote: Alexandro Colorado wrote: On 10/22/12, Kay Schenk wrote: hmmm...well, OK. I think I remember something like this now. Should we use Alexandro's new one at: https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/download/**attachments/27834483/** ApacheOpenOfficeTM.svg https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27834483/ApacheOpenOfficeTM.svg AFAIK there was no resolution on the fonts, the discussion ended on asking Michael Acevedo, but he never replied. Exactly. And this means we cannot use Alexandro's SVG since it is not a 100% reproduction of the bitmap by Michael Acevedo (the orb is perfectly done in SVG and it is the only SVG version of the orb we have available, since we never received one from Oracle; but the text has a slightly different formatting). The SVG was done by Alexandro from Michael's bitmap IIRC. Michael's was never official, it was just the one that happened to be available. There was never any consensus that Michael's was going to be anything other than a stop-gap for a first release from the ApacheOO podling. Going forward there needs to be proposals and discussion and a new branding that reflects the New OpenOffice. KG01 - agreed, lets start exploring design directions. I'll share my designs shortly. On training this week, just need some time at home office :) I like the Flying Page idea you proposed on the wiki, once we have a pallet I'd like to explore that further. I'm working on a graphic text for the logo, I'll post some ideas tonight my time. Cheers GL We have two separate issues here: that reflects this community 1) Collecting and consolidating all versions of the logo we are using; here a 95% accuracy is not acceptable. These versions should be placed under http://www.openoffice.org/**images/AOO_logos/ http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/or anyway under SVN. 2) Collecting proposals that can be useful as inspiration for a new visual identity; here it is of course acceptable to have variants of the official logos, but these should remain proposals and be placed in the wiki or such, possibly in pages that do not confuse a reader who types OpenOffice logo in a search engine. The new branding should have been discussed when I first brought it up last year. Any logos that are in use now, are stopgaps nothing more. They are simply rehashes of an old brand, we need shake off the Oracle detritus and make our own mark, one that is owned and created by the Apache OpenOffice community. Cheers GL Regards, Andrea.
Re: Need new logo for openoffice.apache.org
On 10/22/2012 11:59 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Alexandro Colorado wrote: On 10/22/12, Kay Schenk wrote: hmmm...well, OK. I think I remember something like this now. Should we use Alexandro's new one at: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27834483/ApacheOpenOfficeTM.svg AFAIK there was no resolution on the fonts, the discussion ended on asking Michael Acevedo, but he never replied. Exactly. And this means we cannot use Alexandro's SVG since it is not a 100% reproduction of the bitmap by Michael Acevedo (the orb is perfectly done in SVG and it is the only SVG version of the orb we have available, since we never received one from Oracle; but the text has a slightly different formatting). OK. Yes, I realized that and thought if we DID use Alexandro's version, we should regenerate the images based on that. In any case, I will leave what we have in place on http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/svg/. It is not the original svg but can be used to generate additional copies. a longer discussion topis is ensuing I see... We have two separate issues here: 1) Collecting and consolidating all versions of the logo we are using; here a 95% accuracy is not acceptable. These versions should be placed under http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/ or anyway under SVN. 2) Collecting proposals that can be useful as inspiration for a new visual identity; here it is of course acceptable to have variants of the official logos, but these should remain proposals and be placed in the wiki or such, possibly in pages that do not confuse a reader who types OpenOffice logo in a search engine. Regards, Andrea. -- MzK Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat. -- Robert Heinlein
Re: ASF DOAP File
On 23/10/2012 Kazunari Hirano wrote: Hi Andrea Pescetti, http://projects.apache.org/create.html Are you going to create ASF DOAP File for Apace OpenOffice? Sure, but we will need a while before we get there. There's a number of other infrastructural updates that need to be done before that and are being handled by Infra. For example: http://openoffice.apache.org/ is now existing and redirected to the old URL with incubator, but it will need to be a fully functional site before we can link to it. This is tracked as https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5408 Regards, Andrea.
Checking my assumptions: No need for a 3.4.2 release?
Am I correct in believing that no critical bugs have been reported in 3.4.1 that would require us to spin a 3.4.2 maintenance release? -Rob
Re: Extensions website unavailable?
On 23/10/2012 Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:12:52 +0200 jan iversen wrote: I have no problem with download, but extensions is down seen from spain as well, but extensions have been rather unstable the last couple of days. It was OK at 10:30 (GMT+1) today. I've seen Extensions regularly online in the last few days. The outage seems to be described in this post: http://sourceforge.net/blog/various-sourceforge-services-down/ which apparently mentions that the SourceForge infrastructure had problems this afternoon (European time) and that the web services are still being worked on. (I think everybody knows it, but the Extensions site is hosted on SourceForge). Regards, Andrea.
Re: Updated Stats page
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 12:10 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: A report would serve the same purpose, and posted with regular intervals (like 1 month), with figures based on e.g. last month, last half year. OK. I posted a snapshot of the downloads since AOO 3.4.0 was released back in May: http://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html One option would be to repeat this in 3 months or whatever, and add a new column and % difference for each country. -Rob jan. On 23 October 2012 18:00, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:23 AM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: +1, fine page. Monthly should be enough. Would it be worth to consider to include the country discussion (e.g. list top 5 countries, and the total number) ? I'll take a look to see if there is anything interesting here. But my guess is the top 5 countries will be static over time, and would not be an interesting chart or a time series. But maybe we could periodically post a table of these numbers? I have a pythons script that gathers these numbers and generates a CSV report. It would be easy to have it write out an HTML page instead. -Rob Jan. On 23 October 2012 17:20, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: I've moved the download stats to its own page: http://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html That allowed me to give a fuller description of what the stats are, how they were gathered, etc. I think we should aim for this level of detail and transparency in any claims we make. This move then allowed me to clean up the Stats home page a little, and include links to other charts we have, as well as add a section (with caveats) on 3rd party stats: http://www.openoffice.org/stats/ If anyone has ideas for other relevant stats that might be interested, I'd be interested in adding more. I can help on the data wrangling and charting side.I'd love to have a regular chart on wiki and forums traffic or edits or posts or whatever. This doesn't need to be totally automated. For example, it could be something where someone volunteers to run a monthly report and posts that new stat once a month. Regards, -Rob
Re: Updated Stats page
+1 to both the page you just made and the idea of a new column with regular intervals. Jan. On 23 October 2012 20:48, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 12:10 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: A report would serve the same purpose, and posted with regular intervals (like 1 month), with figures based on e.g. last month, last half year. OK. I posted a snapshot of the downloads since AOO 3.4.0 was released back in May: http://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html One option would be to repeat this in 3 months or whatever, and add a new column and % difference for each country. -Rob jan. On 23 October 2012 18:00, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:23 AM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: +1, fine page. Monthly should be enough. Would it be worth to consider to include the country discussion (e.g. list top 5 countries, and the total number) ? I'll take a look to see if there is anything interesting here. But my guess is the top 5 countries will be static over time, and would not be an interesting chart or a time series. But maybe we could periodically post a table of these numbers? I have a pythons script that gathers these numbers and generates a CSV report. It would be easy to have it write out an HTML page instead. -Rob Jan. On 23 October 2012 17:20, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: I've moved the download stats to its own page: http://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html That allowed me to give a fuller description of what the stats are, how they were gathered, etc. I think we should aim for this level of detail and transparency in any claims we make. This move then allowed me to clean up the Stats home page a little, and include links to other charts we have, as well as add a section (with caveats) on 3rd party stats: http://www.openoffice.org/stats/ If anyone has ideas for other relevant stats that might be interested, I'd be interested in adding more. I can help on the data wrangling and charting side.I'd love to have a regular chart on wiki and forums traffic or edits or posts or whatever. This doesn't need to be totally automated. For example, it could be something where someone volunteers to run a monthly report and posts that new stat once a month. Regards, -Rob
Re: Updated Stats page
Thanks. Louis On 12-10-23, at 14:48 , Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 12:10 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: A report would serve the same purpose, and posted with regular intervals (like 1 month), with figures based on e.g. last month, last half year. OK. I posted a snapshot of the downloads since AOO 3.4.0 was released back in May: http://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html One option would be to repeat this in 3 months or whatever, and add a new column and % difference for each country. -Rob jan. On 23 October 2012 18:00, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:23 AM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: +1, fine page. Monthly should be enough. Would it be worth to consider to include the country discussion (e.g. list top 5 countries, and the total number) ? I'll take a look to see if there is anything interesting here. But my guess is the top 5 countries will be static over time, and would not be an interesting chart or a time series. But maybe we could periodically post a table of these numbers? I have a pythons script that gathers these numbers and generates a CSV report. It would be easy to have it write out an HTML page instead. -Rob Jan. On 23 October 2012 17:20, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: I've moved the download stats to its own page: http://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html That allowed me to give a fuller description of what the stats are, how they were gathered, etc. I think we should aim for this level of detail and transparency in any claims we make. This move then allowed me to clean up the Stats home page a little, and include links to other charts we have, as well as add a section (with caveats) on 3rd party stats: http://www.openoffice.org/stats/ If anyone has ideas for other relevant stats that might be interested, I'd be interested in adding more. I can help on the data wrangling and charting side.I'd love to have a regular chart on wiki and forums traffic or edits or posts or whatever. This doesn't need to be totally automated. For example, it could be something where someone volunteers to run a monthly report and posts that new stat once a month. Regards, -Rob
Re: Updated Stats page
Am 10/23/2012 08:48 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 12:10 PM, jan iversenjancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: A report would serve the same purpose, and posted with regular intervals (like 1 month), with figures based on e.g. last month, last half year. OK. I posted a snapshot of the downloads since AOO 3.4.0 was released back in May: http://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html Great. Is also possible to have a row with hte total sum on the top of the table? Then we would have a (more or less) up-to-date number in a prominent place. One option would be to repeat this in 3 months or whatever, and add a new column and % difference for each country. Sounds good. Marcus On 23 October 2012 18:00, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:23 AM, jan iversenjancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: +1, fine page. Monthly should be enough. Would it be worth to consider to include the country discussion (e.g. list top 5 countries, and the total number) ? I'll take a look to see if there is anything interesting here. But my guess is the top 5 countries will be static over time, and would not be an interesting chart or a time series. But maybe we could periodically post a table of these numbers? I have a pythons script that gathers these numbers and generates a CSV report. It would be easy to have it write out an HTML page instead. -Rob Jan. On 23 October 2012 17:20, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: I've moved the download stats to its own page: http://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html That allowed me to give a fuller description of what the stats are, how they were gathered, etc. I think we should aim for this level of detail and transparency in any claims we make. This move then allowed me to clean up the Stats home page a little, and include links to other charts we have, as well as add a section (with caveats) on 3rd party stats: http://www.openoffice.org/stats/ If anyone has ideas for other relevant stats that might be interested, I'd be interested in adding more. I can help on the data wrangling and charting side.I'd love to have a regular chart on wiki and forums traffic or edits or posts or whatever. This doesn't need to be totally automated. For example, it could be something where someone volunteers to run a monthly report and posts that new stat once a month. Regards, -Rob -- Ciao Marcus
Re: Updated Stats page
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 10/23/2012 08:48 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 12:10 PM, jan iversenjancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: A report would serve the same purpose, and posted with regular intervals (like 1 month), with figures based on e.g. last month, last half year. OK. I posted a snapshot of the downloads since AOO 3.4.0 was released back in May: http://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html Great. Is also possible to have a row with hte total sum on the top of the table? Then we would have a (more or less) up-to-date number in a prominent place. I could certainly add a total there, but this page will probably be updated less frequently than this one: http://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html Of course, we could try to get into a regular update schedule where we update both pages on the same schedule... -Rob One option would be to repeat this in 3 months or whatever, and add a new column and % difference for each country. Sounds good. Marcus On 23 October 2012 18:00, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:23 AM, jan iversenjancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: +1, fine page. Monthly should be enough. Would it be worth to consider to include the country discussion (e.g. list top 5 countries, and the total number) ? I'll take a look to see if there is anything interesting here. But my guess is the top 5 countries will be static over time, and would not be an interesting chart or a time series. But maybe we could periodically post a table of these numbers? I have a pythons script that gathers these numbers and generates a CSV report. It would be easy to have it write out an HTML page instead. -Rob Jan. On 23 October 2012 17:20, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: I've moved the download stats to its own page: http://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html That allowed me to give a fuller description of what the stats are, how they were gathered, etc. I think we should aim for this level of detail and transparency in any claims we make. This move then allowed me to clean up the Stats home page a little, and include links to other charts we have, as well as add a section (with caveats) on 3rd party stats: http://www.openoffice.org/stats/ If anyone has ideas for other relevant stats that might be interested, I'd be interested in adding more. I can help on the data wrangling and charting side.I'd love to have a regular chart on wiki and forums traffic or edits or posts or whatever. This doesn't need to be totally automated. For example, it could be something where someone volunteers to run a monthly report and posts that new stat once a month. Regards, -Rob -- Ciao Marcus
Re: Updated Stats page
On 10/23/2012 12:14 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 10/23/2012 08:48 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 12:10 PM, jan iversenjancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: A report would serve the same purpose, and posted with regular intervals (like 1 month), with figures based on e.g. last month, last half year. OK. I posted a snapshot of the downloads since AOO 3.4.0 was released back in May: http://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html Great. Is also possible to have a row with hte total sum on the top of the table? Then we would have a (more or less) up-to-date number in a prominent place. I could certainly add a total there, but this page will probably be updated less frequently than this one: http://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html Of course, we could try to get into a regular update schedule where we update both pages on the same schedule... -Rob All good! and thanks for making a new stats main page! http://www.openoffice.org/stats/ so, I will go ahead and add this to /download/index.html as promised, AND, I do think some appropriate wording on http://www.openoffice.org/why/ would be a good idea as well... One option would be to repeat this in 3 months or whatever, and add a new column and % difference for each country. Sounds good. Marcus On 23 October 2012 18:00, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:23 AM, jan iversenjancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: +1, fine page. Monthly should be enough. Would it be worth to consider to include the country discussion (e.g. list top 5 countries, and the total number) ? I'll take a look to see if there is anything interesting here. But my guess is the top 5 countries will be static over time, and would not be an interesting chart or a time series. But maybe we could periodically post a table of these numbers? I have a pythons script that gathers these numbers and generates a CSV report. It would be easy to have it write out an HTML page instead. -Rob Jan. On 23 October 2012 17:20, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: I've moved the download stats to its own page: http://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html That allowed me to give a fuller description of what the stats are, how they were gathered, etc. I think we should aim for this level of detail and transparency in any claims we make. This move then allowed me to clean up the Stats home page a little, and include links to other charts we have, as well as add a section (with caveats) on 3rd party stats: http://www.openoffice.org/stats/ If anyone has ideas for other relevant stats that might be interested, I'd be interested in adding more. I can help on the data wrangling and charting side.I'd love to have a regular chart on wiki and forums traffic or edits or posts or whatever. This doesn't need to be totally automated. For example, it could be something where someone volunteers to run a monthly report and posts that new stat once a month. Regards, -Rob -- Ciao Marcus -- MzK Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat. -- Robert Heinlein
Re: [DISCUSS] ML Moderators
On 09/09/2012 06:47 PM, Shenfeng Liu wrote: Thanks very much for the list, Dave! I wonder if it is proper to publish the ML moderator list (at least for those public MLs) on a wiki, so that it can be easily maintained and updated on time? - Simon Simon, and *, I looked at the following page today: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/pmc-faqs.html and noticed that the moderators listed are out of date. I was actually going to update this page when I decided maybe the moderator listing would be better put *with* the mailing lists on the mailing list page: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html Maybe leave the section on the responsibilities of the moderators on the PMC page, but move the actual names. And...I do wish there was a way to track these down easily. :/ I will look into ezmlm a bit more but I imagine you need some uber capabilities. Thoughts on this idea? 2012/9/9 Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net Hi - Since Rob and Dennis will be leaving their ML moderators it is time to revisit all of the lists. There are others that need action. I think we should be replacing mentors (unless they explicitly choose to remain.) I think the action list and number of moderators needed is: ooo-commits - 2 ooo-dev - 1 ooo-issues - 2 ooo-notifications - 2 ooo-private - 2 ooo-security - 2 ooo-users - 2 ooo-users-fr - ? Below I put a ? where I think we need people ooo-announce imacat robweir - Rob did not include this in his list. ? ooo-commits danese - Mentor robweir ? ? ooo-dev robweir danese - mentor pj ? ? ooo-general-es arielch juanm...@gmail.com ooo-general-ja khirano maho ooo-geral-ptbr bino28 filhocf lcolui...@gmail.com ooo-issues danese - mentor rubys - mentor ? ? ooo-l10n khirano paolopoz robweir yo ooo-marketing bmcs yo jsc jza khirano pj robweir si...@webmink.com ooo-notifications danese - mentor rubys - mentor ? ? ooo-private robweir danese - mentor jsc orcmid ? Louis? ? ooo-progetto-it dav...@flossconsulting.it paolopoz pescetti ooo-qa lilyzh...@gmail.com maho robweir ooo-security malte robweir ? Who is left on this list as subscribers? ooo-users khirano orcmid pj robweir si...@webmink.com ? ooo-users-de mikeadvo rbircher ooo-users-fr ericb2 - resigned from ppmc / committer. vince...@laposte.net water...@sunrise.ch What are we doing with the French list. Anyone know? ooo-utenti-it dav...@flossconsulting.it paolopoz pescetti Regards, Dave -- MzK Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat. -- Robert Heinlein
Call for papers: ApacheCon North America, Portland, Feb 2013
We are busy talking about other conferences at the moment (both in Europe: ApacheCon Europe in Sinsheim in two weeks and FOSDEM in Brussels in February 2013) but especially those who live in the US may be pleased to know that the website of the next ApacheCon North America is online: http://na.apachecon.com/ The conference will take place in Portland, Oregon, USA, 26-28 Feb 2013. The Call for Papers is already open and will stay open until 12 Nov 2012 (extended with respect to what you see on the website). So, especially those living in the USA, please go and post your talk proposals now! I expect discussions on this list to focus mostly on ApacheCon Europe in the next two weeks, but when that is over we still have a few days to discuss and solicit proposals for Portland 2013. Regards, Andrea.
Re: [DISCUSS] ML Moderators
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/09/2012 06:47 PM, Shenfeng Liu wrote: Thanks very much for the list, Dave! I wonder if it is proper to publish the ML moderator list (at least for those public MLs) on a wiki, so that it can be easily maintained and updated on time? - Simon Simon, and *, I looked at the following page today: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/pmc-faqs.html and noticed that the moderators listed are out of date. I was actually going to update this page when I decided maybe the moderator listing would be better put *with* the mailing lists on the mailing list page: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html Maybe leave the section on the responsibilities of the moderators on the PMC page, but move the actual names. Wherever you put the info you can link to it from the other location. So whatever makes sense. And...I do wish there was a way to track these down easily. :/ I will look into ezmlm a bit more but I imagine you need some uber capabilities. Thoughts on this idea? IMHO, getting an updated/accurate list is more important than the location. Rule of thumb: Do the google search you think someone would use to find the info, maybe Openoffice mailing list moderators. The PPMC FAQ page comes up first. The NL mailing list page comes up second, and the normal mailing list comes up 4th. Unexpected is that the 3rd page for that query is our Papiamento NL page. Papiamento is evidently a Caribbean creole language. So, as long as we have links from the top pages for the expected queries, then we're looking good, yes? -Rob 2012/9/9 Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net Hi - Since Rob and Dennis will be leaving their ML moderators it is time to revisit all of the lists. There are others that need action. I think we should be replacing mentors (unless they explicitly choose to remain.) I think the action list and number of moderators needed is: ooo-commits - 2 ooo-dev - 1 ooo-issues - 2 ooo-notifications - 2 ooo-private - 2 ooo-security - 2 ooo-users - 2 ooo-users-fr - ? Below I put a ? where I think we need people ooo-announce imacat robweir - Rob did not include this in his list. ? ooo-commits danese - Mentor robweir ? ? ooo-dev robweir danese - mentor pj ? ? ooo-general-es arielch juanm...@gmail.com ooo-general-ja khirano maho ooo-geral-ptbr bino28 filhocf lcolui...@gmail.com ooo-issues danese - mentor rubys - mentor ? ? ooo-l10n khirano paolopoz robweir yo ooo-marketing bmcs yo jsc jza khirano pj robweir si...@webmink.com ooo-notifications danese - mentor rubys - mentor ? ? ooo-private robweir danese - mentor jsc orcmid ? Louis? ? ooo-progetto-it dav...@flossconsulting.it paolopoz pescetti ooo-qa lilyzh...@gmail.com maho robweir ooo-security malte robweir ? Who is left on this list as subscribers? ooo-users khirano orcmid pj robweir si...@webmink.com ? ooo-users-de mikeadvo rbircher ooo-users-fr ericb2 - resigned from ppmc / committer. vince...@laposte.net water...@sunrise.ch What are we doing with the French list. Anyone know? ooo-utenti-it dav...@flossconsulting.it paolopoz pescetti Regards, Dave -- MzK Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat. -- Robert Heinlein
Re: Call for papers: ApacheCon North America, Portland, Feb 2013
Hi Andrea; I should mention that those of us that applied for TAC assistance from the ASF for Sinsheim are not eligible for assistance for Portland. This is a general ASF rule, I have no idea if the PMC can/will override this with available funding but it may lead to somewhat reduced presence in the US event. Pedro. From: Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 4:10 PM Subject: Call for papers: ApacheCon North America, Portland, Feb 2013 We are busy talking about other conferences at the moment (both in Europe: ApacheCon Europe in Sinsheim in two weeks and FOSDEM in Brussels in February 2013) but especially those who live in the US may be pleased to know that the website of the next ApacheCon North America is online: http://na.apachecon.com/ The conference will take place in Portland, Oregon, USA, 26-28 Feb 2013. The Call for Papers is already open and will stay open until 12 Nov 2012 (extended with respect to what you see on the website). So, especially those living in the USA, please go and post your talk proposals now! I expect discussions on this list to focus mostly on ApacheCon Europe in the next two weeks, but when that is over we still have a few days to discuss and solicit proposals for Portland 2013. Regards, Andrea.
Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: I am thinking about what new project volunteers need to get started. Obviously there are area-specific things. For example, developers need to know how to download and build. Translation volunteers need to understand Pootle, etc. But there are also some basic things that all volunteers should probably do. Although we have all of this information (or at least most of it) on the website or wikis or mailing list archives, it is scattered all over the place. I think it would be good if we could collect this information (or at least links to this information) into one place and put a linear order behind it, a step of specific steps we want new volunteers to take. Now, I can hear the objections already -- you can't tell volunteers what to do. That is why they are volunteers. You can't regiment them, etc. This is true. But at the scale we need to operate at -- I'm aiming to attract dozens of new volunteers on the project by the end of the year -- we need some structure. So what can we do to make their first 2 weeks in the project easier for them, and easier for us? One idea: Think of the new volunteer startup tasks in terms of stages or levels, a defined set of reading and other activities that leads them to acquire basic skills in our community. For example: Level 1 tasks: 1) Read the following web pages on the ASF, roles at Apache and the Apache Way 2) Sign up for the following accounts that every volunteer should have: ooo-announce, ooo-dev, ooo-users, MWiki, CWiki, BZ, Forums 3) Read this helpful document on hints for managing your inbox with rules and folders 4) Read this code of conduct page on list etiquette 5) Send a note to ooo-dev list and introduce yourself 6) Edit this wiki page containing project volunteers. Add your name and indicate that you have completed Level 1. Level 2 tasks: 1) Using the Apache CMS in anonymous mode 2) Readings on decision making at Apache 3) Readings on project life cycle and roles within the AOO project 4) Introduction to the various functional groups within the project: development, qa, marketing, UX, documentation, support, localization, etc. 5) Pick one or more functional groups that you want to help with. Edit the volunteer wiki and list them. Also indicate that you have now completed Level 2. Get the idea? After Level 2 this then could branch off into area-specific lists of start up tasks: how to download and build. How to submit patches. How to update a translation. How to define a new test case. Is any one interested in helping with this? Quick update. I have drafts of a few of the pages ready. 1) New Volunteer Orientation root page: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/orientation/ 2) Introduction to Contributing to Apache OpenOffice (Level 1): http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/orientation/level-1.html 3) Intermediate Social and Technical Tools (Level 2): http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/orientation/level-2.html (around half done). I could really use some help drafting the area-specific Level 3 and Level 4 pages, from subject matter experts. -Rob
Re: Extensions website unavailable?
Andrea Pescetti wrote: The outage seems to be described in this post: http://sourceforge.net/blog/various-sourceforge-services-down Even though according to the (updated) post web projects are still being restored, both http://extensions.openoffice.org and http://templates.openoffice.org/ have been normally reachable for me in the last hour or so. So this seems fixed. Regards, Andrea.
Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks
Excellent work Rob this is a great way to help manage contributors! From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 5:30 PM Subject: Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: I am thinking about what new project volunteers need to get started. Obviously there are area-specific things. For example, developers need to know how to download and build. Translation volunteers need to understand Pootle, etc. But there are also some basic things that all volunteers should probably do. Although we have all of this information (or at least most of it) on the website or wikis or mailing list archives, it is scattered all over the place. I think it would be good if we could collect this information (or at least links to this information) into one place and put a linear order behind it, a step of specific steps we want new volunteers to take. Now, I can hear the objections already -- you can't tell volunteers what to do. That is why they are volunteers. You can't regiment them, etc. This is true. But at the scale we need to operate at -- I'm aiming to attract dozens of new volunteers on the project by the end of the year -- we need some structure. So what can we do to make their first 2 weeks in the project easier for them, and easier for us? One idea: Think of the new volunteer startup tasks in terms of stages or levels, a defined set of reading and other activities that leads them to acquire basic skills in our community. For example: Level 1 tasks: 1) Read the following web pages on the ASF, roles at Apache and the Apache Way 2) Sign up for the following accounts that every volunteer should have: ooo-announce, ooo-dev, ooo-users, MWiki, CWiki, BZ, Forums 3) Read this helpful document on hints for managing your inbox with rules and folders 4) Read this code of conduct page on list etiquette 5) Send a note to ooo-dev list and introduce yourself 6) Edit this wiki page containing project volunteers. Add your name and indicate that you have completed Level 1. Level 2 tasks: 1) Using the Apache CMS in anonymous mode 2) Readings on decision making at Apache 3) Readings on project life cycle and roles within the AOO project 4) Introduction to the various functional groups within the project: development, qa, marketing, UX, documentation, support, localization, etc. 5) Pick one or more functional groups that you want to help with. Edit the volunteer wiki and list them. Also indicate that you have now completed Level 2. Get the idea? After Level 2 this then could branch off into area-specific lists of start up tasks: how to download and build. How to submit patches. How to update a translation. How to define a new test case. Is any one interested in helping with this? Quick update. I have drafts of a few of the pages ready. 1) New Volunteer Orientation root page: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/orientation/ 2) Introduction to Contributing to Apache OpenOffice (Level 1): http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/orientation/level-1.html 3) Intermediate Social and Technical Tools (Level 2): http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/orientation/level-2.html (around half done). I could really use some help drafting the area-specific Level 3 and Level 4 pages, from subject matter experts. -Rob
Re: ASF DOAP File
Good morning! Thanks Andrea. I see. We will create an ASF DOAP file when we get all infrastructural updates done. :) Thanks, khirano On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 2:43 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 23/10/2012 Kazunari Hirano wrote: Hi Andrea Pescetti, http://projects.apache.org/create.html Are you going to create ASF DOAP File for Apace OpenOffice? Sure, but we will need a while before we get there. There's a number of other infrastructural updates that need to be done before that and are being handled by Infra. For example: http://openoffice.apache.org/ is now existing and redirected to the old URL with incubator, but it will need to be a fully functional site before we can link to it. This is tracked as https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5408 Regards, Andrea. -- khir...@apache.org Apache OpenOffice http://openoffice.apache.org
[QA BUG] - some regression defects were found by GUI perfromance test
Hi, I did GUI performance test of AOO trunk build. I found some defects[1][2][3], and two of them are regression ones[1][2]. I think defects[1][2] are severe which will block users‘ normal use of AOO, so is there anyone who can help to fix these defects? You can found detailed GUI performance verification test result here[4]. [1] Bug 121199 - [Automation][Regression]Crashed when loading 2 docx files. [2] Bug 121200 - [Regression][Automation][Performance]Severe downgrade to save xls sample files. [3] Bug 121256 - Crash when saving ppt on Linux. [4] - http://people.apache.org/~liuzhe/testdashboard/#pvt -- Best wishes. Linyi Li
