Re: Troll warning

2012-05-08 Thread Tim Williams
Oh dear, this is starting to feel like meta-trolling.  Let's move on,
please

--tim

On Tuesday, May 8, 2012, Simon Phipps wrote:

 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Jim Jagielski 
 j...@jagunet.comjavascript:;
 wrote:

 
  On May 8, 2012, at 4:32 PM, Simon Phipps wrote:
 
  
   On 8 May 2012, at 21:18,  wrote:
  
   Just another warning to not feed the trolls. Now that AOOo 3.4
   has been announced, we are starting to see some really untoward
   behavior by some of the more vocal LO people.
  
   Just let them go... the world will see that it's those people
   who are fighting against cooperation between LO and AOOo and,
   hopefully, wiser and saner minds will prevail.
  
   Do you have specifics, Jim? I've not seen any, just messages of
  congratulations[1]. If you forward me links I'll make sure the TDF
  Membership Committee takes a look.
 
  Yes, I do. But I'd prefer to not share them. All one needs to
  do is simply spend a minute on GOOG.
 

 I did, and I found nothing that was even as questionable as the stuff you
 dismissed. Perhaps you can send me the searches you are using?

 S.



Re: Google Analytics on download.openoffice.org

2012-03-21 Thread Tim Williams
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
 I'd like to enable Google Analytics on our download page.

 This would allow us to collect some important data, such as the
 geographical distribution of download requests.  This information has
 been sought for 3.4 mirror distribution planning. It can also provide
 continuity of our download statistics which we would otherwise lose
 when moving off of MirrorBrain.

 Of course, if some else is willing to implement an alternative way of
 collecting this info, then I'd love it hear it.  But I think GA is the
 most direct method.

 Lazy consensus, 72 hours, etc.

Hi Rob,
As long as it's accompanied by a link to a privacy policy, you should
be fine.  Jackrabbit's[1] is, I think, the canonical example around
here...

Thanks,
--tim

[1] - http://jackrabbit.apache.org/privacy-policy.html


Re: Time for the ASF to send an Open Letter?

2011-11-17 Thread Tim Williams
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 2:51 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:

 On Nov 16, 2011, at 12:39 PM, Shane Curcuru wrote:

 On 2011-11-16 3:26 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
 Hi Martin;

 --- On Wed, 11/16/11, Martin Hollmichel wrote:
 ...
 On 11/16/11 6:33 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
 On 16 November 2011 16:56, Martin Hollmichel
 martin.hollmic...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

 ...

 What kind of a release are you talking about. OOo
 releases can only be made from the Apache Software
 Foundation. Perhaps you are planning a downstream
 release that conforms to our trademark policy.

 Please let us know your plans.
 we're offering to provide an interim release of
 OpenOffice.org 3.3.1 with a joint messaging of ASF and Team
 OpenOffice.org. This would fill the gap between the 3.3.0
 release from beginning of this year (with some known severe
 issues) and the first AOO release in the future. I'm
 convinced that this proceeding will help strengthen the
 trust in OpenOffice.org / AOO.

 Based on the very little bit of information provided here on the Apache 
 lists, I can't see how your plans would possibly be approved by the ASF.

 Obviously, having more information about your plans, and being able to see 
 your work in the form of patches or commits to the AOO podling's Subversion 
 tree would be a great start to be able to do this kind of work.

 So my first suggestion is to start doing some of the actual coding work 
 here, on the ooo-dev@ list.  Then, work with the podling to show the PPMC 
 that this is a good idea, and deserves to proceed together with the 
 excellent progress the PPMC is making on the 3.4 release.

 Then, if the PPMC has a clear consensus to work with such an interim release 
 plan, we can discuss any trademark, legal, or press/messaging questions you 
 might have.

 What is difficult for me to understand is that both Stefan Taxhet and Martin 
 Hollmichel signed up as Initial
 Committers to the Apache project, but have never signed an iCLA.

What makes you think that?  See: http://people.apache.org/committer-index.html

--tim


Re: [VOTE] Trademark and Brand

2011-11-15 Thread Tim Williams
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Allen Pulsifer apulsi...@apache.org wrote:
 The ballot is open for a full 7 day week closing 12:00 p.m. EST ( UTC - 5
 ) on Wednesday, November 16, 2011.

 Question: Does 12:00 p.m. refer to 12 noon or 12 midnight, and if it refers
 to 12 midnight, does it refer to the start of the day on November 16 or to
 the end of the day on November 16?


 I always thought 12pm was noon.  But from reading that Wikipedia
 article I can see that it can be confusing.

 However, Don's original note said his intent was to have the ballot
 run for a full 7 days.  And he sent the note on Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at
 10:47 PM EST.  So ending at noon on Wed would not be a full 7 days.
 So maybe let it run until midnight?

FWIW, many projects successfully use The World Clock's Fixed Time[1]
capability on votes to avoid just this confusion...

Thanks,
--tim

[1] - http://www.timeanddate.com/time/