Re: [Discuss] Triage of Brainstorming

[Torokhov Sergey]

On Friday 24 of August 2012 17:19:33 Phillip Rhodes wrote:
> Somebody slap my wrist or correct me if this is redundant, or in the
> wrong place, but I didn't see anything
> on the wiki related to AOO4 brainstorming, so I created this:
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+Brainstorming
> 
> My idea is that we can breakout individual areas for specific
> proposals for further work.  As an example:
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Social+Integration
> 
> If this needs to be somewhere else, let me know, or feel free to move
> it or whatever.
> 
> 
> Phil

Sorry if I wtite in not quite suitable topic.

Is it planing to release AOO-3.5 or it will version 4.0 of next release?
What about some small old feature requests (especialy that conserning 
localization) for realisation of AOO-3.5 if it will take place?

Re: "Change Case" feature

[Torokhov Sergey]

On Sunday 13 of May 2012 18:02:02 Marco A.G.Pinto wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I have installed AOO 3.4 and it doesn't have the same feature as M$
> Office 2010 where there is an icon to change the case of words:
>- lower case
>- upper case
>- capitalise each word
>- toggle case
> 
> This is very useful.
> 
> Can it be added in the next update?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
>  >Marco A.G.Pinto
> 
> ---
> 
> 
> --

You also can assign a keyboard shortcut for this action:

menu "Tools" -> "Customize" -> tab "Keyboard" -> "Category" filed -> 
"OpenOffice.org Macros" - "share" -> capitalize.bsh.

Now in the field "Shortcut keys" choose "Shift+F3" (for example) and press 
"Modify" button and then "OK"
Now "Shift+F3" is associated to change case of selected text

Re: [4.0 brainstorming] Making Page Breaks more visible

[Torokhov Sergey]

>On Sunday 13 of May 2012 01:26:41 Torokhov Sergey wrote:
> 
> What about the same actions for Line Break and Column Break preferencies?
> 
> --
> Regards

Sorry, LineBreak seems no need such complicated behaviour as it is now 
dispaying as nonprintable character that can be easily seen.

But what about position of ColumnBreak indication and menu 
as an example in case of three columns 
with it's Breaks before second and third columns?

Re: [4.0 brainstorming] Making Page Breaks more visible

[Torokhov Sergey]

On Saturday 12 of May 2012 22:50:16 RGB ES wrote:
>...
>I put it to the left mainly to avoid clash with notes
> (they are always to the right), but moving the label near to the text
> area for a more compact design is a good idea.
> 
> >> 
> >> Regards
> >> Ricardo

Could it be a pop-up object with on-mouseover action in position of cursor 
over such PageBreak line (to avoid averting of user by permanent presence)?
If of couse it will not be clash with some over actions within top  of text 
area, i.e. for adding and manage of "Header" - if it's planing similar control 
tool for it.

What about the same actions for Line Break and Column Break preferencies?

--
Regards

Re: [4.0 brainstorming] Making Page Breaks more visible

[Torokhov Sergey]

On Saturday 12 of May 2012 16:40:27 RGB ES wrote:
> 
> 
> Considering all this, I believe PB should be shown on the same object
> that creates the break, and on the object side where break occurs:
> this way, PB display will be consistent with the way PB works on
> Writer.
> 
> See here for a lousy mock-up:
> 
> http://people.apache.org/~rgb-es/PageBreaks3.png
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> Regards
> Ricardo

The current PB is not visiable at all with it's default colour and user don't 
see PB until he reaches next page.

IMHO (as user), it's a good and reasonable idea to change representation of PB 
and make available the quick changing of this object's propeties.
The realisation described on attached picture looks great :)

[RELEASE][3.4.1] propose issues 119161 and 119145

[Torokhov Sergey]

Please confirm  issues:

[1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119161 
(regresion: table borders import)

[2] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119145 
(linefeed of verticaly rotated text in Writer's tables)

and consider proposing of them to resolve in AOO 3.4.1

--
Regards

Re: [Propose RC Build Blockers] Bug 119189 (Writer is crashing via Print Dialog) and Bug 119161 (import regression)

[Torokhov Sergey]

"Bug 119189 - Print Selection crash Writer when is chosen again" was check as 
non-blocker due to the same behaviour of OOo-3.3.0.


What is opinion about 
"Bug 119161 - Regression: Writer set table border's line style like "none" 
during import from .docx" ?

It is the regression in comparioson with OOo-3.3.0.



On Sunday 08 of April 2012 01:14:59 Torokhov Sergey wrote:
> The first one
> 
> Bug 119189 - Print Selection crash Writer when is chosen again
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119189
> 
> cause the Writer crashing but itsn't regression as also observed in
> OpenOffice-3.0.0.
> 
> 
> The second
> 
> Bug 119161 - Regression: Writer set table border's line style like "none"
> during import from .docx
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119161
> 
> is an import regression in comparison with OpenOffice.org 3.3.0

[Propose RC Build Blockers] Bug 119189 (Writer is crashing via Print Dialog) and Bug 119161 (import regression)

[Torokhov Sergey]

The first one 

Bug 119189 - Print Selection crash Writer when is chosen again
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119189

cause the Writer crashing but itsn't regression as also observed in 
OpenOffice-3.0.0.


The second 

Bug 119161 - Regression: Writer set table border's line style like "none" 
during import from .docx
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119161

is an import regression in comparison with OpenOffice.org 3.3.0

Craching of Writer: Print Selection crash Writer when is chosen again. bug 119189

[Torokhov Sergey]

Next bug of "Print dialog" cause Writer crash:

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119189

Re: [RELEASE] 3.4 status at Apr

[Torokhov Sergey]

> 2012/4/1 Torokhov Sergey 
> 
> > On Sunday 01 of April 2012 10:05:51 Shenfeng Liu wrote:
> > > Hi, all,
> > > 
> > >   I updated the 3.4 status at project wiki:
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Project+Reporting
> > > 
> > >   Per my reading from our mails, I listed the following issues:
> > > 1. RAT - did we complete this work?
> > > 2. Buid signing - I didn't find any following up. Did we have a
> > > solution? 3. QE - as Lily suggested, should we plan a regression test
> > > BEFORE
> > 
> > announce
> > 
> > > RC1?
> > > 4. One more show stopper candidate - 119156
> > > 5. Dictionary extension - ?
> > > 
> > >   Please give any comments. Thanks!
> > > 
> > > - Simon
> > 
> > as for 3rd item
> > 
> > I found one regression with import of table's borders in Writer yesterday
> > that takes place in AOO 3.4.0 r1303653
> > 
> > (https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119161)
> > 
> > So imho it's worth to make some regression tests.
> > 
>  Yes, Torokhov, that's why I want to ahead RC build test plan ahead of RC
> 
> build announce. Recently still some IP cleanup things occurds against code
> base so may regression will be introduced.
> 
> Lily
> 
> > --
> > Regards

I check that this bug came from Oracle OpenOffice.org 3.4 beta 
(could anybody at least confirm this bug? ),
so some regressions were arived from previous development Ooo-3.4beta branch 
too.

I hope final AOO 3.4 will be released till summer :)

--
Regards

Re: jdk version for building on Windows

[Torokhov Sergey]

On Tuesday 03 of April 2012 23:27:11 Torokhov Sergey wrote:
> On Tuesday 03 of April 2012 22:30:08 Simon Brouwer wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > According to
> > 
> > http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Building_OOo_with_Cygwin_on_Wind
> > ow s
> > 
> > 
> > JDK 1.6 is required for building. But the link is dead.
> > I could download it at Oracle (Java SE 6 Development Kit), but does
> > anyone know if the latest JDK 7u3 can be used instead?
> 

Sorry, I don't noticed that you note that you already could download it 
yourself :)

Re: jdk version for building on Windows

[Torokhov Sergey]

On Tuesday 03 of April 2012 22:30:08 Simon Brouwer wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> According to
> 
> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Building_OOo_with_Cygwin_on_Window
> s
> 
> 
> JDK 1.6 is required for building. But the link is dead.
> I could download it at Oracle (Java SE 6 Development Kit), but does
> anyone know if the latest JDK 7u3 can be used instead?


Simon, try this link

http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk-6u31-
download-1501634.html

it's pointed for manual download in my Gentoo system 
but there are sun-jdk-1.6 (jdk-6u31) for ALL Platforms

Re: [RELEASE] 3.4 status at Apr

[Torokhov Sergey]

On Sunday 01 of April 2012 10:05:51 Shenfeng Liu wrote:
> Hi, all,
>   I updated the 3.4 status at project wiki:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Project+Reporting
>   Per my reading from our mails, I listed the following issues:
> 
> 1. RAT - did we complete this work?
> 2. Buid signing - I didn't find any following up. Did we have a solution?
> 3. QE - as Lily suggested, should we plan a regression test BEFORE announce
> RC1?
> 4. One more show stopper candidate - 119156
> 5. Dictionary extension - ?
> 
>   Please give any comments. Thanks!
> 
> - Simon


as for 3rd item

I found one regression with import of table's borders in Writer yesterday
that takes place in AOO 3.4.0 r1303653 

(https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119161)

So imho it's worth to make some regression tests.

--
Regards

Re: "Get more information about OPenOffice.org " link redirect to English page for all language instead of right native lang page

[Torokhov Sergey]

The problem is still here under 
AOO340m1 (Build:9589) Rev. 1303653 22 march 2012

for "Get more information about OpenOffice.org" doesn't lead to "Native 
Language" internet page

the link is shown now http://www.openoffice.org/?lang=ru 


but it's doesn't redirect to http://www.openoffice.org/ru/




The same error there is e.g for the next langpack:

French, German, Italian etc.





On Saturday 17 of March 2012 03:19:01 Torokhov Sergey wrote:
> I have just download binary AOO340m1(Build:9588) - Rev. 12995771
> 2012-03-12 09.59.35 (MOn, 12 Mar 2012)
> 
> OOo_3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz
> OOo_3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_langpack-deb_ru.tar.gz
> 
> After unpacking I start AOO and changed in options User Interface language
> to Russian (my native) and restart "./soffice":
> 
> Then I  run "./soffice" again and see a "Welcome Screen"
> at bottom of it are placed :
> 
> - Get more templates for OpenOffice.org
> - Add a new features to OpenOffice.org
> - Get more information about OpenOffice.org
> 
> When I click fisrt one my browser redirected me to
> 
> http://templates.services.openoffice.org/?lang=en-US  (note the
> "?lang=en-US")
> 
> but the Russian language was determined correct in the upper right conner
> language menu, so there is no problem and page is displayed in russian
> language.
> 
> The second contains only English, German and French, so loading Eng page is
> normal for that situation.
> 
> 
> But clicking the third one (Get more information about OpenOffice.org)
> redirect to
> 
> http://www.openoffice.org/?lang=en-US
> 
> instead of
> 
> http://www.openoffice.org/ru/
> 
> that is listed on http://www.openoffice.org/projects/native-lang.html page
> 
> Substitution  for ?lang=ru in the  http://www.openoffice.org/?lang=en-US
> doesn't lead to positive result and doesn't redirect to native lang. page
> 
> Maybe such behaviour takes place for other language too as all Native-lang
> pages links on http://www.openoffice.org/projects/native-lang.html
> look like http://www.openoffice.org/ru/, http://www.openoffice.org/de/,
> http://www.openoffice.org/fr/
> instead of http://www.openoffice.org/?lang=ru
> http://www.openoffice.org/?lang=de
> or
> http://www.openoffice.org/?lang=fr

Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

[Torokhov Sergey]

On Tuesday 27 of March 2012 11:32:25 Andre Fischer wrote:
> Hi Yakov,
> 
> thanks for your input.  I still need to know which Russian dictionary to
> include.  On
> 
> http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/dictionaries
> 
> there are listed 8 different extensions.
> 
> -Andre
> 
> On 26.03.2012 19:15, Yakov Reztsov wrote:
> > Hi Andre,
> > 
> > I think in a Russian AOO the following languages should be bundled:
> > Russian (ru_RU)   
> > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/trunk/main/dictionaries/ru_RU
> > /?pathrev=1209016 English (en_US)
> > German (de_DE)

Hi Andre,

I observe, and Yakov confirmed it for me early, that proposed set
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/trunk/main/dictionaries/ru_RU/?pathrev=1209016

already includes the following russian spellchecker dictionary:
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/dict_ru_RU_hyph

as files "ru_RU.dic" and "ru_RU.aff".


--
Regards

Re: Bug 119120 - Lack of some items of Print menu with applied langpack for AOO3.4

[Torokhov Sergey]

On Monday 26 of March 2012 17:38:12 Serg Bormant wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 
> All other strings are translated. So I cannot understand what I need to
> check in Russian translation to avoid problem with Writer/Calc/Math Print
> dialog window.
> Can anybody help, please?

I think that reson is maybe that the last changes just don't get into last 
unofficial developer snapshots are dated by morning of 22-Mar-2012 from 10:45 
to 
13:08
(http://people.apache.org/~jsc/developer-snapshots/src_releases/)
with Russian langpack for windows is dated 22-Mar-2012 14:18 on the download 
page due to more early freezing of Revision 

while last changes of Russian langpack on the Pootle is dated 2012-03-22 13:28

Genman langpack (last changed on 2012-03-21 18:33 on Pootle server) isn't 
affected by this bug.

I hope next snapshot will correct this bug or it worth to try to build russian 
langpack with it's current state of translation (if it is possible) and check 
is problem represented still

Re: Bug 119120 - Lack of some items of Print menu with applied langpack for AOO3.4

[Torokhov Sergey]

On Sunday 25 of March 2012 22:06:08 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> Torokhov Sergey wrote:
> > But if it's realy that "some print options are not shown until certain
> > strings have been translated" I will wait for translation ending and for
> > new build taking into account of this.
> 
> To double-check, you might download OpenOffice.org 3.4 beta if it's
> still available somewhere: if the missing print options are missing in
> the beta too, then it is the same issue that was investigated at that time.
> 
> Regards,
>Andrea.

 Yes, I can confirm the same issue for 
OOo-dev 3.4.0 - OOO340m0 (Build: 9583)

to wit
OOo-Dev_3.4beta_20110411_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz
with langpack
OOo-Dev_3.4beta_20110411_Linux_x86-64_langpack-deb_ru.tar.gz

Thanks

Re: openoffice.fm

[Torokhov Sergey]

On Sunday 25 of March 2012 03:14:56 Rob Weir wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 12:36 AM, Marc Sanders 
wrote:
> > Rob Weir  apache.org> writes
> > 
> > > The MO is typically to install adware, not viruses.  Virus writing is
> > > not a business model.  Some anti-virus apps report adware, some don't.
> > > 
> > >  But if you don't see anything, that might be a good sign.  After all,
> > > 
> > > adware that you can't see is not a business model either.
> > > 
> > > When I get a chance I'll try installing on a virtual
> > > machine and see what I get.
> > > 
> > > -Rob
> > 
> > Installing on a virtual machine--great idea.  Let
> > me know what you get.
> 
> Tried on an XP SP3 VM.  DIfferent results that you had, and different what
> I saw on the website last week.  Now it appears to offer the full 150MB 3.3
> download, as signed by Oracle.  Evidently some cat & mouse going on.
> 
> In any case, the safest way to download is always via
> http://download.openoffice.org.
> 
> -Rob
> 
> > Thanks!
> > -Marc

It seems they change their site. It's now look different from that was befobe 
to my mind and now download links lead to 
http://download.services.openoffice.org  
(does it still official download link ?)
while curently on official site http://openoffice.mirrorbrain.org download link 
is 
represented for me.

Maybe they saw this discussion? It look suspiciously :\
If they curenly supply the Official builds and wiil not change download links  
to any different from official mirror when it looks like some  advertising 
resource.

But the page: 
http://www.downloadadmin.com/consumers/general-uninstallation-instructions
confuse me. What Advertiser’s Software is question?
So it is realy safest to use officeial site to dowbload, as Rob said, at least 
while the owners of that resouce contact with AOO developers.

There is no any contact information on their page but only the form for 
question is there.

Re: Bug 119120 - Lack of some items of Print menu with applied langpack for AOO3.4

[Torokhov Sergey]

On Saturday 24 of March 2012 17:59:36 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> Torokhov Sergey wrote:
> > Does it worth to leave
> > https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=116639
> > and
> > https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119120
> > as independent or mark second as duplicate of first one?
> 
> Your new issue is indeed a duplicate of 116639, which was a known bug in
> OOo 3.4 beta and is related to localization: some print options are not
> shown until certain strings have been translated,
> 
> > Anyway, please, mark this defect of Print dialog as "3.4_release_blocker"
> 
> This is probably part of
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118895
> (meaning: when the localization files are properly imported, this issue
> will be solved automatically for all teams that had translated those
> strings). Now, I would have kept 118895 as a release blocker but the
> flag was removed recently...
> 
> Regards,
>Andrea.

Thanks for reply.

Yes, I remember bug 118895 description  but the problem is not concern 
localization of menu items (its already all correct for me ) 

but the totaly absence of some menu and options of Print dialog takes place
for most recent both Linux and Windows builds: 
AOO340m1 (Build:9589) Rev. 1303653 22 march 2012

and also there are the "wrong resources" for some tabs.
and for Finnish lang pack I'm observing too wide Print dialog window 
(for fresh windows build Rev. 1303653)

Does the absence of menu options is realy depending now only from localization 
pack? 
I see that at least for Russian pack only "OOo_34/basic/source/app.po" need to 
be translated since 2012-03-22 13:28.

I'm confuced, does the Print dialog menu depends on it?

Note that for this component in German ("Apache OpenOffice 3.4.x" Pootle tree) 
(https://translate.apache.org/de/OOo_34/basic/source/) has 985 words need 
attention and translaed and there is no problem with Print dialog windows
while Russian has untranslated 989 words for the same "app.po" and the error 
is stiil here.

But if it's realy that "some print options are not shown until certain strings 
have been translated" I will wait for translation ending and for new build 
taking into account of this.

Thanks once again :)


---
Regards

Re: Bug 119120 - Lack of some items of Print menu with applied langpack for AOO3.4

[Torokhov Sergey]

Does it worth to leave 

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=116639
and
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119120

as independent or mark second as duplicate of first one?

The fisrt one began as just as "much too wide & has wrong resources"
and  in the course of time it's overgrown with new other different issues.
The second part of the fist issue's description is intercrossing with second 
part of second issue but the main part of bug "119120" is different.


Anyway, please, mark this defect of Print dialog as "3.4_release_blocker"



> On Saturday 24 of March 2012 01:45:17 Torokhov Sergey wrote:
> > Hi to all,
> > 
> > I have encounted one problem with User Interface of testing AOO3.4 suite
> > 
> > The problem is concerning Print menu for Russian lang pack (with English
> > lang User Interface activated the problem does't take place)
> > 
> > Maybe it can subject some other lagguage pack.
> > 
> > For more detailes see
> > https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119120 with it's
> > attachment.
> > 
> > 
> > It seems like rather serious UI deffect.
> > 
> > 
> > ---
> > Regards
> 
> I rechecked for this problem for Windows multilanguage installation set
> and resulta are:
> (also see bugtracker)
> 
> --
> Is Affected by bug:
> 
> 
> 1. Chinese (simplified)   yes (seems only Writer)
> 2. Chinese (traditional)  yes (seems only Writer)
> 3. Chech  no
> 4. Dutch (Netherland) no
> 5. Finnishno (but it has too long dialog Print window)
> 6. French (France)yes
> 7. German (Germany)   no
> 8. Hungarian  yes
> 9. Italian (Italy)yes (seems only Writer)
> 10. Japanese  yes
> 11. Portuguese (Brazil)   yes (also many menu items are not 
translated!)
> and it has strange Print - OpenOffice.prg Math tab-menu
> 
> 12. Russian   yes
> 13. Spanish (Spain)   yes
> 
> Also please check (as I don't know languages from the all list) the
> correspond tab-menu of Print dialog such as OpenOffice.org Writer,
> OpenOffice.org Calc, OpenOffice.org Math etc. (especialy Print -
> OpenOffice.org Math tab-menu
> - for some lang. it look like "Page Layout" tab, e.g. for Portuguese
> (Brazil), Italian etc.), to correspondence of English menu,
> I suggest and it seems there are errors represented of this dialogs. Or it
> seems that  OpenOffice.org Math tab-menu is replaced for "Page Layout" for
> some reason.
> And for English and Genram there are no any Page Layout at all for "Math"
> Print dialog
> 
> ---
> 
> So most of language packs are suffer from this bug, it seems to be
> 3.4_release_blocker as it corruptes UI Print Dialog and users can't to
> print certaint range of pages and some other tab-menus (such as
> OpenOffice.org Math) looks wrong with comparison of English langpack.

Re: Bug 119120 - Lack of some items of Print menu with applied langpack for AOO3.4

[Torokhov Sergey]

On Saturday 24 of March 2012 01:45:17 Torokhov Sergey wrote:
> Hi to all,
> 
> I have encounted one problem with User Interface of testing AOO3.4 suite
> 
> The problem is concerning Print menu for Russian lang pack (with English
> lang User Interface activated the problem does't take place)
> 
> Maybe it can subject some other lagguage pack.
> 
> For more detailes see https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119120
> with it's attachment.
> 
> 
> It seems like rather serious UI deffect.
> 
> 
> ---
> Regards


I rechecked for this problem for Windows multilanguage installation set
and resulta are:
(also see bugtracker)

--
Is Affected by bug:


1. Chinese (simplified) yes (seems only Writer)
2. Chinese (traditional)yes (seems only Writer)
3. Chechno
4. Dutch (Netherland)   no
5. Finnish  no (but it has too long dialog Print window)
6. French (France)  yes
7. German (Germany) no
8. Hungarianyes 
9. Italian (Italy)  yes (seems only Writer)
10. Japaneseyes
11. Portuguese (Brazil) yes (also many menu items are not translated!) 
and it has strange Print - OpenOffice.prg Math tab-menu

12. Russian yes
13. Spanish (Spain) yes

Also please check (as I don't know languages from the all list) the correspond 
tab-menu of Print dialog such as OpenOffice.org Writer,
OpenOffice.org Calc, OpenOffice.org Math etc. (especialy Print - OpenOffice.org 
Math 
tab-menu 
- for some lang. it look like "Page Layout" tab, e.g. for Portuguese (Brazil), 
Italian etc.), to correspondence of English menu,
I suggest and it seems there are errors represented of this dialogs. Or it 
seems that  OpenOffice.org Math tab-menu is replaced for "Page Layout" for some 
reason.
And for English and Genram there are no any Page Layout at all for "Math" 
Print dialog

---

So most of language packs are suffer from this bug, it seems to be 
3.4_release_blocker as it corruptes UI Print Dialog and users can't to print 
certaint range of pages and some other tab-menus (such as OpenOffice.org Math) 
looks wrong with comparison of English langpack.

Bug 119120 - Lack of some items of Print menu with applied langpack for AOO3.4

[Torokhov Sergey]

Hi to all,

I have encounted one problem with User Interface of testing AOO3.4 suite

The problem is concerning Print menu for Russian lang pack (with English lang
User Interface activated the problem does't take place)

Maybe it can subject some other lagguage pack.

For more detailes see https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119120
with it's attachment.


It seems like rather serious UI deffect.


---
Regards

Re: HEADS UP: install sets were renamed from OOo* to Apache_OpenOffice_incubating*

[Torokhov Sergey]

On Thursday 22 of March 2012 16:51:50 Herbert Duerr wrote:
> Please note that the install sets that fall out of a build have been
> renamed from OOo* to Apache_OpenOffice_incubating* so that e.g.
>OOo_3.4.0_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg
> now has the file name
>Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg
> 
> Herbert

By the way, when will be changed internal names of headers and names of menu 
items ? They are still (AOO340m1 (Build:9589) Rev. 1303653 от 22 march 2012)
maned OpenOffice.org

e.g.
1. menu "Help" - OpenOffice.org Help
2. header of "Help" window
3. some names of menu items in "Tools" - "Opetions" - "OpenOffice.org..." (and 
the other as "OpenOffice.org Writer" etc. below)

and maybe some other places.

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Regards

Re: CVE-2012-0037: OpenOffice.org data leakage vulnerability

[Torokhov Sergey]

On Thursday 22 of March 2012 17:16:21 Rob Weir wrote:
> Please note, this is the official security bulletin, targeted for
> security professionals.  If you are an OpenOffice.org 3.3 user, and
> are able to apply the mentioned patch, then you are encouraged to do
> so.  If someone else supports or manages your desktop, then please
> forward this information to them.
> 
> Additional support is available on our Community Forums:
> 
> http://user.services.openoffice.org/
> 
> And via our ooo-users mailing list:
> 
> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html#users-mailing-
> list
> 
> Note:  This security patch for OpenOffice.org is made available to
> legacy OpenOffice.org users as a service by the Apache OpenOffice
> Project Management Committee.  The patch is made available under the
> Apache License, and due to its importance, we are releasing it outside
> of the standard release cycle.
> 
> -Rob
> 

Well... it's good news as there is an external patch.

But for Gentoo Linux users as OpenOffice-3.3.0 was delivered only as just 
binary 
file "OOo_3.3.0_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm-wJRE_en-US.tar.gz" from official 
OpenOffice.org site.

So now there is only fast and simple way to escape this vulnerability for 
Gentoo users - using current binary build of Apach Open Office 3.4 beta 
unpacked 
to "/opt" directory for example.

Concerning docx-import (ooxml): (was: Propose removing two bugs from AOO 3.4 release blocker)

[Torokhov Sergey]

On Tuesday 13 of March 2012 11:57:18 Andre Fischer wrote:
> On 13.03.2012 03:14, xia zhao wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Recently I am retesting and reviewing the bug ones marked as "release
> > blocker" and I have different points for below two ones.
> > 
> > 119011 impact some formulas lost when loading some dock sample files,
> > this is regression but not arrive at the level to be taken as release
> > blocker from my view.
> 
> I agree.  From memory (can not access bugzilla at the moment) this has
> already been a regression in 3.3, nothing new.
> 
> -Andre
> 
> > 118895 is something about translation, yes it did impact local users but
> > shouldn't stop the ship of  the whole AOO 3.4 package.
> > 
> > 119011  blo P3 All
> > ooo-issues@incubator.apache... CONF --- formulas are lost by "DOCX"
> > import filter
> > 
> > 118895  cri P3 All
> > s...@openoffice.org CONF --- aoo3.4 r1240836: some contextmenu entries are
> > not localized
> > 
> > *
> > *
> > 
> > What's your thoughts?
> > 
> > 
> > Lily

Concerning docx-import (and ooxml at all):

Could anybody clarify the situation with the current status of docx-import 
(ooxml), that is what is (or what OLE-objects) currently suported during 
import of .docx document format?

I understand that in spite of long list of bugs/issues (see below) where is no 
regression (as some of functions are not suppoted yet) and so they are not 
release-blockers.
But unfortunately there are so many issues maybe some of them are due to  some 
diffences of saving of formats of MS Word 2007 and MS Word 2010 *.docx.



(see bug list: 
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?query_format=specific;order=relevance%20desc;bug_status=__open__;content=docx;list_id=8486)



Regards

Pootle: "Copyright © 2000, 2011 Oracle and/or its affiliates". is it normal?

[Torokhov Sergey]

See the  Apache OpenOffice (Incubating) » svx / source / intro.po

(https://translate.apache.org/en_GB/OOo/svx/source/intro.po/translate/ 
for examle)

--

Copyright © 2000, 2011 Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved.\n
 This product was created by %OOOVENDOR, based on OpenOffice.org.\n
 OpenOffice.org acknowledges all community members, especially those mentioned 
at\n
http://www.openoffice.org/welcome/credits.html.

--

Does it normal copyright and it's date specified?

Re: [RELEASE,CODE] Bug 118895 - aoo3.4 r1240836: some contextmenu entries are not localized

[Torokhov Sergey]

> Today, Andre and I found out that our build process in module svx which is
> responsible to provide certain general strings for all applications has a
> defect. Namely, the generated file globlmn.hrc which contains these strings
> is not 'delivered' to our 'solver'.

As I just have looked over Pootle translations for  russian langpack and it 
seems translated completly (for Apache OpenOffice (Incubating).

Does it mean that the problem only with defect of module svx for more 
languages  as you described?


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Regards

Re: [RELEASE,CODE] Bug 118895 - aoo3.4 r1240836: some contextmenu entries are not localized

[Torokhov Sergey]

On Monday 19 of March 2012 15:36:08 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Andre and myself are currently working on this issue.
> 
> As Jürgen has already found out last week the translation for the
> corresponding strings (at least the ones which are initially reported) are
> missing. Reason for this is that due to some file restructuring these
> strings are marked as new in our translation process.
> 
> Jürgen has fixed in his environment, but the result was that the strings
> are still not translated in the user interface.
> 
> Today, Andre and I found out that our build process in module svx which is
> responsible to provide certain general strings for all applications has a
> defect. Namely, the generated file globlmn.hrc which contains these strings
> is not 'delivered' to our 'solver'.
> 
> We are expecting to have a fix ready today.
> 
> Best regards, Oliver.

I don't exactly understand does it concerning language pack too or not
and if it does, could you represent please the list of files need to be changed 
in the language pack (or/and in base packet for localisation) that involved 
this bug.

And If you could refer the changes of such files was implemented as it 
accelerate resolving for other language.

Re: Release Notes doesn't mention about new feature of AOO Impress for Linux (video playing via gst-plugins)

[Torokhov Sergey]

On Sunday 18 of March 2012 08:19:29 imacat wrote:
> In that case that is OK.  I have added it.  I shall solve my own
> Gstreamer problem.
> 
> I simply "copy-paste" your words as they looks nice, and put your
> name is in the page history.
> 

Thanks for corrections,

but maybe it's better to place it under "New Features from OpenOffice 3.4 beta" 
section as it was it's feature implemented already. 
Currently it is placed in "New Features for Apache OpenOffice 3.4" section.

Re: Release Notes doesn't mention about new feature of AOO Impress for Linux (video playing via gst-plugins)

[Torokhov Sergey]

P.S.
I used OOo_3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz package r1299571 

Re: Release Notes doesn't mention about new feature of AOO Impress for Linux (video playing via gst-plugins)

[Torokhov Sergey]

On Sunday 18 of March 2012 01:16:25 imacat wrote:
> Hmm... Can you verify that Gstreamer support still work?  It does
> not work for me, with the latest snapshot.
> 
> Maybe Gstreamer support was removed during the license upgrade?
> Could someone verify this?
> 
> If that is true, could the bugzilla maintainer reopen bug#68717?
> 

It works for me in binary "AOO340m1(Build:9588) - Rev. 1299571
2012-03-12 09.59.35 (Mon, 12 Mar 2012)"

May be it's need to install additional gst-plugins? 
What is console output of ./simpress after you press "play" button at bottom 
panel (this pannel is visible when inserted video is selected).
Are you hear any sounds?

I have the next gst-plugins installed in my gentoo linux system (but I need to 
install additionaly "ffmpeg lame theora wavpack" to play .avi in inspite of 
installed gst-plugins-xvid and gst-plugins-x264 previously as many others):

media-libs/gst-plugins-bad
media-libs/gst-plugins-base
media-libs/gst-plugins-good
media-libs/gst-plugins-ugly
media-plugins/gst-plugins-a52dec
media-plugins/gst-plugins-alsa
media-plugins/gst-plugins-dts
media-plugins/gst-plugins-dvdread   

  
media-plugins/gst-plugins-faad  

  
media-plugins/gst-plugins-ffmpeg

  
media-plugins/gst-plugins-flac  

  
media-plugins/gst-plugins-gconf 

  
media-plugins/gst-plugins-gio   

  
media-plugins/gst-plugins-lame  

  
media-plugins/gst-plugins-mad   

  
media-plugins/gst-plugins-meta
media-plugins/gst-plugins-mpeg2dec
media-plugins/gst-plugins-ofa
media-plugins/gst-plugins-ogg
media-plugins/gst-plugins-oss
media-plugins/gst-plugins-resindvd
media-plugins/gst-plugins-soup
media-plugins/gst-plugins-taglib
media-plugins/gst-plugins-theora
media-plugins/gst-plugins-v4l2
media-plugins/gst-plugins-vorbis
media-plugins/gst-plugins-wavpack
media-plugins/gst-plugins-x
media-plugins/gst-plugins-x264
media-plugins/gst-plugins-xvid
media-plugins/gst-plugins-xvideo

--

I just run ./simpress , create new presentation, go to menu "Insert" - "Movie 
and Sound", choose *.avi file (and even *.mp3, *.mp4 or even *.flv from youtube 
such as "Sintel" movie - by choosing to show all files) and press "play" button 
at bottom panel of Impress that appeared then  just inserted video is 
selected,
or just press F5 key (menu "View" - "Start Slideshow") to see presentation.

After pressing "play" of F5 video start to playback.

Re: Release Notes doesn't mention about new feature of AOO Impress for Linux (video playing via gst-plugins)

[Torokhov Sergey]

Just for more information about this enchancement issue (already closed):

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=68717

"c...@openoffice.org  2010-08-03 12:29:58 UTC
Alternative gstreamer support now landed in vanilla DEV300_m86"


Evidently it just was not merge for OpenOffice 3.3 as branch of it's version 
was 
done on build DEV300m84
(http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Feature_Freeze_Testing_3.3)


On the page
http://www.openoffice.org/development/releases/DEV300m86_snapshot.html
it's apparantly mentioned as

"Creating a GST based Linux backend for module avmedia 

This is a clone of cws avmedia101 as avmedia101 has a broken outgoing 
repository.
This cws contains all changesets from avmedia101"

Re: Release Notes doesn't mention about new feature of AOO Impress for Linux (video playing via gst-plugins)

[Torokhov Sergey]

On Saturday 17 of March 2012 19:28:41 imacat wrote:
> On 2012/03/17 22:37, Torokhov Sergey said:
> > I looked over the "AOO 3.4 Release Notes"
> > (https://cwiki.apache.org/OOOUSERS/aoo-34-release-notes.html)
> > and don't found any mention about implementation of one very remarcable
> > feature OpenOffice Impress in Linux systems.
> 
> Could you please write some sample description about this new
> feature (you may simulate the writing style of that "AOO 3.4 Release
> Notes"), for our update reference?


I don't remember exactly where I read about it for some years ago, but this 
news was also described in linuxjournal.com in July 2010

(http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/openofficeorg-use-gstreamer-multimedia)

As article refered that it is common feature for multimedia and it seems that 
Sun's JMF was not upgrade since 2003 year.

So, I'll try, sorry for my grammar.  It could be described for Release Notes 
as:




New Features from OpenOffice 3.4 beta
Linux improvement: New multimedia framework

- Gstreamer is available now to use instead/besides of Sun's Java Media 
Framework (JMF) to playback multimedia content in AOO documents (e.g. audio 
and video in Impress presentations). 
Note that Gstreamer (with the appropriate gst-plugins) need be installed in 
system.




But I'm alerted by some text of linuxjournal.com article:

"Distribution developers can disable this support by choice if desired and 
cause OpenOffice.org to revert to using Java."

So I don't know is there a possibility to use Sun's JMF now at all but due to 
it's bad support for widespread multimedia formats it seems useless now for 
most users. So it could be also described as (but maybe AOO is stiil support 
JMF). 

Maybe  it is worth to remove any mentions about JMF from description at all:




- Gstreamer is available now to use to playback multimedia content in AOO 
documents (e.g. audio and video in Impress presentations). 
Note that Gstreamer (with the appropriate gst-plugins) need to be installed in 
system.






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Release Notes doesn't mention about new feature of AOO Impress for Linux (video playing via gst-plugins)

[Torokhov Sergey]

Hi to all!

I looked over the "AOO 3.4 Release Notes"
(https://cwiki.apache.org/OOOUSERS/aoo-34-release-notes.html)
and don't found any mention about implementation of one very remarcable 
feature OpenOffice Impress in Linux systems.

Early videoplaying in presentation was available only though 
1. Java Media Frameworks (JMF) - but it had very poor number of supported 
formats.
2. or via external shell scripts 
(http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/How_Tos/Using_Movies_in_Impress_on_Linux_Without_Java)
which run external video player with specified options.


In the Oracle OpenOffice 3.4 beta (and I check that it works with current  
Apache OpenOffice 3.4 build) it is now avalable to play video in Impress 
presentation via using appropriate gst-plugins.


Please, add information about this new feature to "Release Notes" 
("New Features from OpenOffice 3.4 beta" section).

It will be a good news for many users as it is not supported in OpenOffice 
3.3.0 
and in more early versions.

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Regards

"Get more information about OPenOffice.org " link redirect to English page for all language instead of right native lang page

[Torokhov Sergey]

I have just download binary AOO340m1(Build:9588) - Rev. 12995771
2012-03-12 09.59.35 (MOn, 12 Mar 2012)

OOo_3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz
OOo_3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_langpack-deb_ru.tar.gz

After unpacking I start AOO and changed in options User Interface language to 
Russian (my native) and restart "./soffice":

Then I  run "./soffice" again and see a "Welcome Screen"
at bottom of it are placed :

- Get more templates for OpenOffice.org
- Add a new features to OpenOffice.org
- Get more information about OpenOffice.org

When I click fisrt one my browser redirected me to 

http://templates.services.openoffice.org/?lang=en-US  (note the "?lang=en-US")

but the Russian language was determined correct in the upper right conner 
language menu, so there is no problem and page is displayed in russian 
language.

The second contains only English, German and French, so loading Eng page is 
normal for that situation.


But clicking the third one (Get more information about OpenOffice.org) redirect 
to 

http://www.openoffice.org/?lang=en-US 

instead of 

http://www.openoffice.org/ru/

that is listed on http://www.openoffice.org/projects/native-lang.html page

Substitution  for ?lang=ru in the  http://www.openoffice.org/?lang=en-US
doesn't lead to positive result and doesn't redirect to native lang. page 

Maybe such behaviour takes place for other language too as all Native-lang 
pages links on http://www.openoffice.org/projects/native-lang.html
look like http://www.openoffice.org/ru/, http://www.openoffice.org/de/, 
http://www.openoffice.org/fr/ 
instead of http://www.openoffice.org/?lang=ru 
http://www.openoffice.org/?lang=de
or
http://www.openoffice.org/?lang=fr

Re: Implementation of genitive case of month names (posessive context)

[Torokhov Sergey]

> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Sergey Torokhov  
wrote:
> > It's pity but it seems there is will not be progress this problem :(
> > as there is no any activity and reply on appropriate bug page from
> > developers is planning some changes or not.
> 
> Please think of it like this:  We are in our final weeks of testing
> and bug fixing for our OpenOffice 3.4 release.  At this point we are
> only fixing very severe, blocking issues, especially "regressions",
> .i.e., things that worked in 3.3 and now are broken in 3.4.
> 
> Once we are done with 3.4, there will be more time to look at
> enhancements in all areas, including l10n.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -Rob
> 

Sorry, if I looked like importunate, I clearly realize that final testing is 
taking place now and I don't quite mean that this resolving need to place to 
AOO 3.4 release.

I'm waiting impatiently for the final 3.4 release and hope it will be stable 
and reliable as previosly Sun's and Oracle's ones or even better.
And wish all of you luck of maintaining this splendid project.


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Regards, 
 
Sergey

Re: Implementation of genitive case of month names (posessive context)

[Torokhov Sergey]

It's pity but it seems there is will not be progress this problem :(
as there is no any activity and reply on appropriate bug page from developers 
is planning some changes or not.


Is there at least anybody of Russian localisation team ?
I'm not success to find fresh mail list - the one of the old openoffice oficial 
page looks strange and seems not active for a long time and onather as
http://l10n.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectMemberList   link
from the page http://www.openoffice.org/l10n/how-to-join.html 

returns:
"The requested URL /l10n/servlets/ProjectMemberList was not found on this 
server."



> Hi to all, 
> 
> previously I try to write to incubator.apache.org about this but encouted
> some encoding problem of theme header, and I try again
> 
> 
> So, the promlem is that ...
> 
> for a long time (about 6 years) there is a feature request conserns Date
> Format representation as current one doesn't corresponds to National
> Standarts. It is related to the abcence of possibility to use possessive
> genitive and partitive genitive case of moth's names that are accepted in
> many countries while choosing date format.
> 
> Is there any opinion about this problem ? Thre is no progress of this
> request resolving for a long time on the bugtracker.
> 
> 
> I tried to implement it (refering of LibreOffice3.5.0 resolving - see
> attached files on bugtracker) but I'm not a programmer  and I encoutered
> the problem that there is no enough of "locale.dtd" and "ru_RU.xml" file
> (for example) - there is a parsing error of new "ru_RU.xml" took place.
> 
> 
> 
> For more details see: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=62460
> 
> Also please note that this feature was realized in the LibreOffice (3.5.0),
> see decription of resolving method:
> http://erack.org/blog/archives/2-LibreOffice-possessive-genitive-case-and-
> partitive-case-month-names.html
> 

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