Re: I'd love your opinion on a question of FAQ style

2012-03-14 Thread rjaaskel
Rob Weir [robw...@apache.org] kirjoitti: 

This question came up on the other thread.  I'd be interested in
knowing which style of FAQ you prefer:

Example A:

"Who is building Apache OpenOffice releases?

 * In common with other Apache projects, work on Apache OpenOffice is
performed by individual volunteers.
 * Development is done a number of the original developers of
OpenOffice.org in addition to community volunteers and developers from
other projects derived from the OpenOffice codebase including IBM
Symphony."

or Example B:

"Who is developing Apache OpenOffice?

Like any other Apache project, work on Apache OpenOffice is performed
by a diverse group of volunteers, from over a dozen countries.  We
have participants who are brand new to the project as of last week.
We also have many old hands, who have been involved with OpenOffice
for a decade or more.  These volunteers work on coding, testing,
documentation, websites, translations, marketing as well as other
functions.  Some of our volunteers are listed here:
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/people.html.If you are
interested in helping develop the next great version of Apache
OpenOffice please take a look at our Getting Involved page
(http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/get-involved.html)."


Another set:

Example A:

"Where can I get updates to the copy of OpenOffice.org that I am running?

   *  There have been no updates to OpenOffice.org binaries released
for users since Oracle stopped development and there will be no
patches to those earlier binary programs released.
* The project is currently preparing a new version of the code and
it will be available through the openoffice.org website.
* Once Apache OpenOffice v3.4 is released, the project recommends
you replace your OpenOffice.org installation with it.
* Again, there are developer versions available for testing purposes."


and

Example B:

"Where can I get updates to the copy of OpenOffice.org that I am running?

 * The latest release of OpenOffice.org is 3.3.  If you have that then
you have the latest.  If you would like to extend the capabilities of
your OpenOffice 3.3 you might take a look at the many compatible
extensions (http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/) and templates
(http://templates.services.openoffice.org/)  that are available.
*   We are currently preparing a new release, Apache OpenOffice 3.4.
When available, you can download it from the http://www.openoffice.org
website.  If you want to be on a notification list for when Apache
OpenOffice 3.4 is available for download, you can send an email to
ooo-announce-subscr...@incubator.apache.org."

These two approaches, A and B, differ in tone, formality and
information level.   Which do you think would be most useful to users
seeking answers to their questions?

-Rob


Hello!
Personally I don't like long story but bullet list with links if needed.  But A 
ja B are mixed for that.

Regards
Risto


Re: I had problems with the program openoffice

2012-03-12 Thread rjaaskel

Hello!
I loaded file and see no image.  But the data seem to be merely in table form, 
so why not use Calc?
May you can ge more help from forums:
http://user.services.openoffice.org/

regards
Risto
0@8O K:>20 [bykova.m...@gmail.com] kirjoitti: 

Good afternoon. I use the software openoffice. I had problems with the
program. The matter is that in the text document at me my changes don't
remain. I will describe a problem. I keep drawing in an extreme right top
corner, I put a binding to page, I keep the document - all remains as me it
is necessary. But after I close the document, and I open it again, my
picture appears in the middle of page. The matter is that at me many such
pages, and on each of them of a picture. And if I need to change something
in the document, I should rearrange anew all pictures in the right top
corner. As there are blanks in some lines after a picture. In general after
I close the document, and I open it again it it is transformed beyond
recognition. Very much I hope for your help. In the enclosed file that
document which I try to keep.


Mary.





Re: [BUILD]: propose next developer snapshot based on revision 1299571

2012-03-12 Thread rjaaskel
Jürgen Schmidt [jogischm...@googlemail.com] kirjoitti: 

Hi,

I would like to propose that we prepare the next set of dev snapshots 
based on the revision r1299571 (same as last changed revision). It is 
not the latest working buildbot revision but I would like to include an 
increased buildid.


It is still no a official RC because of the existing show stopper 
issues. I hope that we can start a second build later this week if possible.


I would like to propose also that we continue to provide normal/complete 
install sets for all languages.


The dev snapshot from last week was proposed to the IPMC with zero 
response so far. Not really promising and maybe somebody else has an 
idea what we can do to get some early feedback.


The builds will be made available again under 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots


Juergen



Hello
I can't see any time stamp on the loading page so I can't know if there is new 
file for testing. Or at least it is hard to see if there is some newer file 
than that I already has downloaded.
Regards
Risto


Re: Rebuild localisation (Finnish)

2012-03-10 Thread rjaaskel
Rob Weir [robw...@apache.org] kirjoitti: 

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 5:13 AM,   wrote:
> Hello from Finland!
>

..

For the translated homepage, it would be good to start with the
English-language version and then translate that.  You can get the
English version here:

http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/index.html?view=markup


When you have a translation you want checked in, you could attach your
translation to a Bugzilla issue:

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/enter_bug.cgi?product=www




This was strange way of doing it but now there is bug 119043.
..

If you can attach your PO files to a Bugzilla issue as well, that will
help us get them loaded into Pootle.  Or send them to be as an email
attachment.


I see there is already a Finnish languagepack.  I can send my files but is it 
needed now?

..

Regards,

-Rob



..

Regards
Risto


Re: Test results: AOO Rev 1296433 on Windows 8 and Vista

2012-03-09 Thread rjaaskel

Done
Regards
Risto
Rob Weir [robw...@apache.org] kirjoitti: 

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 7:39 AM,   wrote:
> AOO version: OOO340m1 (Build:9587) 2012-03-05 Rev.1296433 English
>
> OS1: Windows 8 with Machine: Oracle VM VirtualBox 4.1.6 on LinuxMint
>  Consumer Preview (64 bit) Other programs installed: LibreOffice 3.5 and
> AOOdev
> OS2: Vista with Machine: home made with AMD triple-core processor etc. Other
> programs installed: LibreOffice 3.5
> AOO installation: OK AOO Finnish language pack installation: OK  Thanks a
> lot!
> Voikko spell check extension installation: OK
> Writer: writing, saving, closing and reopen, all OK Calc: calculating,
> charting, saving, closing and reopen, all OK + Link to external Data OK
> + inserting linked images and AVI movie  (run with sound) OK - hyperlink on
> linked image NOT working at least at Vista (work on LibO).
>

Thanks for the report,  Risto!

Could you enter an issue into Bugzilla for the hyperlink issue you ran
into?  (Attach the document also, if you can make it public)

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/

-Rob

> Impress: saving, closing and reopen, all OK + incredible smooth start of
> linked AVI-video from internet source (not saved in file or on computer).
>
> Conclusion: I like this suite.
>
> Regards
> Risto





Re: Rebuild localisation (Finnish)

2012-03-09 Thread rjaaskel

Hello!
If patches is same as some new code I think I am wrong person. I just like to 
translate.
Still happy to see that Finnish languagepack is found.
Regards
Risto

Rob Weir [robw...@apache.org] kirjoitti: 

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 5:13 AM,   wrote:
> Hello from Finland!
>
> I am Risto Jääskeläinen (aka ristoi) and I have translated OpenOfficeorg
> help contents to Finnish up to version 3.3. Now I am keen to start with
> Apache OpenOffice.

Hello Risto, welcome to Apache OpenOffice !

> Current it seems that most of the active Finnish localisation team went to
> LibreOffice.  So there is work to do:
>
> 1) WWW-page is quite ugly after Apache upgrade (needs a committer?)

You can read more about becoming a committer here:

http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/ppmc-faqs.html#participate

A contributor becomes a committer after a period of contributions to
the project.  So how do you get started with contributions if you
cannot check in files?  You start by submitting patches.  This allows
other committers to review your changes and then check them in.

For the translated homepage, it would be good to start with the
English-language version and then translate that.  You can get the
English version here:

http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/index.html?view=markup


When you have a translation you want checked in, you could attach your
translation to a Bugzilla issue:

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/enter_bug.cgi?product=www


> 2) OpenOffice.org 3.3 translation needs to move to Pootle (I too have all
> .po-files in my hard disk if that matter)
> 3) Translation update to 3.4 level
> 4) Lot of other things
>

Excellent !

If you can attach your PO files to a Bugzilla issue as well, that will
help us get them loaded into Pootle.  Or send them to be as an email
attachment.

> I like to start from number 1 but I think I have no committer authority and
> don't know anybody else with language skils. So I think I need this
> privilege.  I have no hurry but I like to know when it is time to start this
> second class localisation.
>

You are starting in the same condition as many of our most valued
members.  You start as a contributor, and submit patches.  Then, as
other project members see your great work, you are proposed and voted
in as a committer.

Regards,

-Rob


> Below is clip from post where is some information.
>
> Sorry my language. I only translate from English to Finnish not vice versa
> and Firefox of mine is not co-operative (-;
>
> Regards
> Risto
>
> 
> Dave Fisher 
> Vastaanottaja   ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Lähetetty       26.2.2012 18:57:58
> Aihe    Re: Article to be approved for list dev
> Viesti  Hi Louis,
>
> All committers have write access to all of both www.openoffice.org and the
> podling site. Simply use the Apache CMS with your apache.org credentials.
> You navigate to the page and then invoke the CMS through the bookmarklet.
> See this page for a guide. [1]
>
> Legacy OOo project archives are available here. [2] Swedish mailing lists
> are here. [3]
>
> If anyone is interested in maintaining the sv.openoffice.org, even if it is
> simply translations for some pages as redo in English. Please raise your
> hand.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/website-local.html
> [2] http://openoffice.org/projects/
> [3] http://openoffice.org/projects/sv/lists
> 





Test results: AOO Rev 1296433 on Windows 8 and Vista

2012-03-08 Thread rjaaskel

AOO version: OOO340m1 (Build:9587) 2012-03-05 Rev.1296433 English

OS1: Windows 8 with Machine: Oracle VM VirtualBox 4.1.6 on LinuxMint  Consumer 
Preview (64 bit) Other programs installed: LibreOffice 3.5 and AOOdev
OS2: Vista with Machine: home made with AMD triple-core processor etc. Other 
programs installed: LibreOffice 3.5
AOO installation: OK 
AOO Finnish language pack installation: OK  Thanks a lot!

Voikko spell check extension installation: OK
Writer: writing, saving, closing and reopen, all OK 
Calc: calculating, charting, saving, closing and reopen, all OK 
+ Link to external Data OK
+ inserting linked images and AVI movie  (run with sound) OK 
- hyperlink on linked image NOT working at least at Vista (work on LibO).


Impress: saving, closing and reopen, all OK 
+ incredible smooth start of linked AVI-video from internet source (not saved in file or on computer).


Conclusion: I like this suite.

Regards
Risto


Test results: AOO run on Windows 8

2012-03-01 Thread rjaaskel

Machine: Oracle VM VirtualBox 4.1.6  on LinuxMint
OS: Windows 8 Consumer Preview (64 bit)
AOO version: OOO340m1 (Build:9586) 2012-02-27 Rev.1293550
Other programs: LibreOffice 3.5

AOO installation: OK
Writer: writing, saving, closing and reopen, all OK
Calc: calculating, charting, saving, closing and reopen, all OK
Impress:  saving, closing and reopen, all OK

Testing with one item (for example one chart) in each case.

I have tested some OpenOffice version on virtual new  W7 and it gave quite 
accurate prediction then.  So this test predict that AOO is working on W8 at 
least to some extent.

Regards
Risto


Rebuild localisation (Finnish)

2012-02-28 Thread rjaaskel

Hello from Finland!

I am Risto Jääskeläinen (aka ristoi) and I have translated OpenOfficeorg help contents to Finnish up to version 3.3. Now I am keen to start with Apache OpenOffice. 


Current it seems that most of the active Finnish localisation team went to 
LibreOffice.  So there is work to do:

1) WWW-page is quite ugly after Apache upgrade (needs a committer?)
2) OpenOffice.org 3.3 translation needs to move to Pootle (I too have all 
.po-files in my hard disk if that matter)
3) Translation update to 3.4 level
4) Lot of other things

I like to start from number 1 but I think I have no committer authority and 
don't know anybody else with language skils. So I think I need this privilege.  
I have no hurry but I like to know when it is time to start this second class 
localisation.

Below is clip from post where is some information.

Sorry my language. I only translate from English to Finnish not vice versa and 
Firefox of mine is not co-operative (-;

Regards
Risto


Dave Fisher 
Vastaanottaja   ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Lähetetty   26.2.2012 18:57:58
AiheRe: Article to be approved for list dev
Viesti  Hi Louis,

All committers have write access to all of both www.openoffice.org and the 
podling site. Simply use the Apache CMS with your apache.org credentials. You 
navigate to the page and then invoke the CMS through the bookmarklet. See this 
page for a guide. [1]

Legacy OOo project archives are available here. [2] Swedish mailing lists are 
here. [3]

If anyone is interested in maintaining the sv.openoffice.org, even if it is 
simply translations for some pages as redo in English. Please raise your hand.

Regards,
Dave

[1] http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/website-local.html
[2] http://openoffice.org/projects/
[3] http://openoffice.org/projects/sv/lists