Problems sign in consultants directory
Hello, I now have sent an invitation to 41 companies relating to an entry in the directory: http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html And I got the first reply: > Listings must be submitted to the ooo-dev mailing list as patches to the file > consultants.xml > nicht Ihr Ernst, oder? No problem in this individual case, because I offered my personal help, but I think it may seem too complicated for some users even having to create an XML file. What can we do? For example, i could write a macro for AOO with an input dialog, which simplifies the creation of the XML file. But I need a few days time. Hints? Greetings, Jörg
Re: Problems sign in consultants directory
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: > Hello, > > I now have sent an invitation to 41 companies relating to an entry in the > directory: > http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html > > And I got the first reply: > > >> Listings must be submitted to the ooo-dev mailing list as patches to the >> file consultants.xml > > > > nicht Ihr Ernst, oder? > > > No problem in this individual case, because I offered my personal help, but I > think it may seem too complicated for some users even having to create an XML > file. > > What can we do? > > For example, i could write a macro for AOO with an input dialog, which > simplifies the creation of the XML file. But I need a few days time. > > Hints? > This is covered in the instructions here: "If you are not familiar with XML, please submit the equivalent information in a post to the ooo-dev list and we can help you format it for submission. But your listing will appear faster if it is submitted in the proper form." Reference: http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultant-submission.html A form with Javascript to form the XML might be useful sometime, but it is possible that the XML schema might change based on feedback we receive during this initial phase of submissions. So it might be better to wait. -Rob > > > Greetings, > Jörg >
Re: Problems sign in consultants directory
Please write an example on the page, not just throw the XML file doing something as simple as Your company foo street at disneyland http://www.yourcompany.com Would go a long way, the instructions look a bit too technical for regular users. Even if we assume this are technical people, we should think this is being applied by the marketing intern used to facebook. I would even suggest doing an XForm to generate this XML and spew it on a texboard with a copy-paste this on your email. Specially consider the speciality would be all over the place as a freeform XML. On 10/14/12, Rob Weir wrote: > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Jörg Schmidt > wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I now have sent an invitation to 41 companies relating to an entry in the >> directory: >> http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html >> >> And I got the first reply: >> >> >>> Listings must be submitted to the ooo-dev mailing list as patches to the >>> file consultants.xml >> > >> >> nicht Ihr Ernst, oder? >> >> >> No problem in this individual case, because I offered my personal help, >> but I think it may seem too complicated for some users even having to >> create an XML file. >> >> What can we do? >> >> For example, i could write a macro for AOO with an input dialog, which >> simplifies the creation of the XML file. But I need a few days time. >> >> Hints? >> > > This is covered in the instructions here: > > "If you are not familiar with XML, please submit the equivalent > information in a post to the ooo-dev list and we can help you format > it for submission. But your listing will appear faster if it is > submitted in the proper form." > > Reference: http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultant-submission.html > > A form with Javascript to form the XML might be useful sometime, but > it is possible that the XML schema might change based on feedback we > receive during this initial phase of submissions. So it might be > better to wait. > > -Rob > > >> >> >> Greetings, >> Jörg >> > -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice http://es.openoffice.org
Re: Problems sign in consultants directory
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > Please write an example on the page, not just throw the XML file doing > something as simple as > > Your company > foo street at disneyland > http://www.yourcompany.com > > There is an entire file of real examples linked to from that page: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/bizdev/consultants/consultants.xml > Would go a long way, the instructions look a bit too technical for > regular users. Even if we assume this are technical people, we should > think this is being applied by the marketing intern used to facebook. > > I would even suggest doing an XForm to generate this XML and spew it > on a texboard with a copy-paste this on your email. > Patches are welcome. > Specially consider the speciality would be all over the place as a freeform > XML. > In the current form it is restricted to enumerated values. This list can expand on request, but I'd like to not have it be freeform so it can be used as a categorization field. The field is the freeform field, where they can put anything relevant. > On 10/14/12, Rob Weir wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Jörg Schmidt >> wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I now have sent an invitation to 41 companies relating to an entry in the >>> directory: >>> http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html >>> >>> And I got the first reply: >>> >>> Listings must be submitted to the ooo-dev mailing list as patches to the file consultants.xml >>> > >>> >>> nicht Ihr Ernst, oder? >>> >>> >>> No problem in this individual case, because I offered my personal help, >>> but I think it may seem too complicated for some users even having to >>> create an XML file. >>> >>> What can we do? >>> >>> For example, i could write a macro for AOO with an input dialog, which >>> simplifies the creation of the XML file. But I need a few days time. >>> >>> Hints? >>> >> >> This is covered in the instructions here: >> >> "If you are not familiar with XML, please submit the equivalent >> information in a post to the ooo-dev list and we can help you format >> it for submission. But your listing will appear faster if it is >> submitted in the proper form." >> >> Reference: http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultant-submission.html >> >> A form with Javascript to form the XML might be useful sometime, but >> it is possible that the XML schema might change based on feedback we >> receive during this initial phase of submissions. So it might be >> better to wait. >> >> -Rob >> >> >>> >>> >>> Greetings, >>> Jörg >>> >> > > > -- > Alexandro Colorado > PPMC Apache OpenOffice > http://es.openoffice.org
Re: Problems sign in consultants directory
On 10/14/12, Rob Weir wrote: > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: >> Please write an example on the page, not just throw the XML file doing >> something as simple as >> >> Your company >> foo street at disneyland >> http://www.yourcompany.com >> >> > > There is an entire file of real examples linked to from that page: > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/bizdev/consultants/consultants.xml My point exactly. I would rather see this shown as HTML/ASCII, the XML dump is not bad but usually end up in hard to read spew of data that non-technical users can't understand what happened. > >> Would go a long way, the instructions look a bit too technical for >> regular users. Even if we assume this are technical people, we should >> think this is being applied by the marketing intern used to facebook. >> >> I would even suggest doing an XForm to generate this XML and spew it >> on a texboard with a copy-paste this on your email. >> > > Patches are welcome. Here is an XForm sample: First Name Last Name Submit > >> Specially consider the speciality would be all over the place as a >> freeform XML. >> > > In the current form it is restricted to enumerated values. This list Oh there is a form, I most have missed that. > can expand on request, but I'd like to not have it be freeform so it > can be used as a categorization field. The field is the > freeform field, where they can put anything relevant. > >> On 10/14/12, Rob Weir wrote: >>> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Jörg Schmidt >>> wrote: Hello, I now have sent an invitation to 41 companies relating to an entry in the directory: http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html And I got the first reply: > Listings must be submitted to the ooo-dev mailing list as patches to > the > file consultants.xml > nicht Ihr Ernst, oder? No problem in this individual case, because I offered my personal help, but I think it may seem too complicated for some users even having to create an XML file. What can we do? For example, i could write a macro for AOO with an input dialog, which simplifies the creation of the XML file. But I need a few days time. Hints? >>> >>> This is covered in the instructions here: >>> >>> "If you are not familiar with XML, please submit the equivalent >>> information in a post to the ooo-dev list and we can help you format >>> it for submission. But your listing will appear faster if it is >>> submitted in the proper form." >>> >>> Reference: http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultant-submission.html >>> >>> A form with Javascript to form the XML might be useful sometime, but >>> it is possible that the XML schema might change based on feedback we >>> receive during this initial phase of submissions. So it might be >>> better to wait. >>> >>> -Rob >>> >>> Greetings, Jörg >>> >> >> >> -- >> Alexandro Colorado >> PPMC Apache OpenOffice >> http://es.openoffice.org > -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice http://es.openoffice.org
Re: Problems sign in consultants directory
Hello, > This is covered in the instructions here: > > "If you are not familiar with XML, please submit the equivalent > information in a post to the ooo-dev list and we can help you format > it for submission. But your listing will appear faster if it is > submitted in the proper form." > > Reference: > http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultant-submission.html Yes, but ... i think this reference is perhaps not the totally appropriate assistance. Please consider two things: - not all speak english well and want to post on mailing-lists - in our invitation we actually ask others to help us (yes, I think offer services for AOO is help for us) - not vice versa. > A form with Javascript to form the XML might be useful sometime, but > it is possible that the XML schema might change based on feedback we > receive during this initial phase of submissions. So it might be > better to wait. OK. Greetings, Jörg
Re: Problems sign in consultants directory
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > On 10/14/12, Rob Weir wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: >>> Please write an example on the page, not just throw the XML file doing >>> something as simple as >>> >>> Your company >>> foo street at disneyland >>> http://www.yourcompany.com >>> >>> >> >> There is an entire file of real examples linked to from that page: >> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/bizdev/consultants/consultants.xml > > My point exactly. I would rather see this shown as HTML/ASCII, the XML > dump is not bad but usually end up in hard to read spew of data that > non-technical users can't understand what happened. > >> >>> Would go a long way, the instructions look a bit too technical for >>> regular users. Even if we assume this are technical people, we should >>> think this is being applied by the marketing intern used to facebook. >>> >>> I would even suggest doing an XForm to generate this XML and spew it >>> on a texboard with a copy-paste this on your email. >>> >> >> Patches are welcome. > > Here is an XForm sample: > > > > > > > > > action="submit.asp" > method="get"/> > > First Name > Last Name > Submit > > The form is the easy part. The hard part is getting it integrated in a way that works with our current server environment. As you've probably noticed we don't have mail-in forms anywhere on our website. Perhaps there are some security issues here? Infra would know. But there would be some work to either enable the server-side processing of this, or of generating the XML with instructions for the user to copy/paste it into an email to ooo-dev. Personally I don't think the expected volume of submissions justifies the time required to put further automation into play. (My personal opinion). As the instructions say, the submittor can just send equivalent information to the list and we can do the XML formatting for them. -Rob >> >>> Specially consider the speciality would be all over the place as a >>> freeform XML. >>> >> >> In the current form it is restricted to enumerated values. This list > > Oh there is a form, I most have missed that. > >> can expand on request, but I'd like to not have it be freeform so it >> can be used as a categorization field. The field is the >> freeform field, where they can put anything relevant. >> >>> On 10/14/12, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: > Hello, > > I now have sent an invitation to 41 companies relating to an entry in > the > directory: > http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html > > And I got the first reply: > > >> Listings must be submitted to the ooo-dev mailing list as patches to >> the >> file consultants.xml > > > > nicht Ihr Ernst, oder? > > > No problem in this individual case, because I offered my personal help, > but I think it may seem too complicated for some users even having to > create an XML file. > > What can we do? > > For example, i could write a macro for AOO with an input dialog, which > simplifies the creation of the XML file. But I need a few days time. > > Hints? > This is covered in the instructions here: "If you are not familiar with XML, please submit the equivalent information in a post to the ooo-dev list and we can help you format it for submission. But your listing will appear faster if it is submitted in the proper form." Reference: http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultant-submission.html A form with Javascript to form the XML might be useful sometime, but it is possible that the XML schema might change based on feedback we receive during this initial phase of submissions. So it might be better to wait. -Rob > > > Greetings, > Jörg > >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Alexandro Colorado >>> PPMC Apache OpenOffice >>> http://es.openoffice.org >> > > > -- > Alexandro Colorado > PPMC Apache OpenOffice > http://es.openoffice.org
Re: Problems sign in consultants directory
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: > Hello, > >> This is covered in the instructions here: >> >> "If you are not familiar with XML, please submit the equivalent >> information in a post to the ooo-dev list and we can help you format >> it for submission. But your listing will appear faster if it is >> submitted in the proper form." >> >> Reference: >> http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultant-submission.html > > Yes, but ... > > i think this reference is perhaps not the totally appropriate assistance. > Please consider two things: > > - not all speak english well and want to post on mailing-lists I understand. We can add translations of that page if you think it would help. But the mailing list post is required as part of the process. A listing in the consultants directory is not a right. It is not guaranteed. It requires review by the PMC, and the PMC does its work openly on the ooo-dev list. The submittor does not need to subscribe to ooo-dev, but they do need to submit there listing here. So even if we find ways to automate this, we would want to ensure that any automation sends a copy of the submission to ooo-dev. -Rob > - in our invitation we actually ask others to help us (yes, I think offer > services for AOO is help for us) - not vice versa. > >> A form with Javascript to form the XML might be useful sometime, but >> it is possible that the XML schema might change based on feedback we >> receive during this initial phase of submissions. So it might be >> better to wait. > > OK. > > Greetings, > Jörg >
Re: Problems sign in consultants directory
On 10/14/12, Rob Weir wrote: > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: >> On 10/14/12, Rob Weir wrote: >>> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Alexandro Colorado >>> wrote: Please write an example on the page, not just throw the XML file doing something as simple as Your company foo street at disneyland http://www.yourcompany.com >>> >>> There is an entire file of real examples linked to from that page: >>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/bizdev/consultants/consultants.xml >> >> My point exactly. I would rather see this shown as HTML/ASCII, the XML >> dump is not bad but usually end up in hard to read spew of data that >> non-technical users can't understand what happened. >> >>> Would go a long way, the instructions look a bit too technical for regular users. Even if we assume this are technical people, we should think this is being applied by the marketing intern used to facebook. I would even suggest doing an XForm to generate this XML and spew it on a texboard with a copy-paste this on your email. >>> >>> Patches are welcome. >> >> Here is an XForm sample: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > action="submit.asp" >> method="get"/> >> >> First Name >> Last Name >> Submit >> >> > > The form is the easy part. The hard part is getting it integrated in > a way that works with our current server environment. As you've > probably noticed we don't have mail-in forms anywhere on our website. > Perhaps there are some security issues here? Infra would know. But > there would be some work to either enable the server-side processing > of this, or of generating the XML with instructions for the user to > copy/paste it into an email to ooo-dev. > > Personally I don't think the expected volume of submissions justifies > the time required to put further automation into play. (My personal > opinion). As the instructions say, the submittor can just send > equivalent information to the list and we can do the XML formatting > for them. Ok the original proposal was that it will dump the data in a texbox (Javascript can do this as opposed to the submit.asp). Just to pre-format his entry, user can then paste it on an email. And if no automation is necessary then I think it should be the first thing said, like this: Please submit the information to our ooo-dev mailing list: - Company name - Country code [1] - Address - URL -Specialities: [2] 1 - see our ISO compliant country listing 2 - see our list of specialties The rest of the information like XML, XSD, etc, should be put as complementary information. > > -Rob > >>> Specially consider the speciality would be all over the place as a freeform XML. >>> >>> In the current form it is restricted to enumerated values. This list >> >> Oh there is a form, I most have missed that. >> >>> can expand on request, but I'd like to not have it be freeform so it >>> can be used as a categorization field. The field is the >>> freeform field, where they can put anything relevant. >>> On 10/14/12, Rob Weir wrote: > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Jörg Schmidt > wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I now have sent an invitation to 41 companies relating to an entry in >> the >> directory: >> http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html >> >> And I got the first reply: >> >> >>> Listings must be submitted to the ooo-dev mailing list as patches to >>> the >>> file consultants.xml >> > >> >> nicht Ihr Ernst, oder? >> >> >> No problem in this individual case, because I offered my personal >> help, >> but I think it may seem too complicated for some users even having to >> create an XML file. >> >> What can we do? >> >> For example, i could write a macro for AOO with an input dialog, >> which >> simplifies the creation of the XML file. But I need a few days time. >> >> Hints? >> > > This is covered in the instructions here: > > "If you are not familiar with XML, please submit the equivalent > information in a post to the ooo-dev list and we can help you format > it for submission. But your listing will appear faster if it is > submitted in the proper form." > > Reference: > http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultant-submission.html > > A form with Javascript to form the XML might be useful sometime, but > it is possible that the XML schema might change based on feedback we > receive during this initial phase of submissions. So it might be > better to wait. > > -Rob > > >> >> >> Greetings, >> Jörg >> > -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice http://es.openoffice.org >>> >> >> >> -- >> Alexandro Colorado >> PPMC Apache Open
Re: Problems sign in consultants directory
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > On 10/14/12, Rob Weir wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: >>> On 10/14/12, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > Please write an example on the page, not just throw the XML file doing > something as simple as > > Your company > foo street at disneyland > http://www.yourcompany.com > > There is an entire file of real examples linked to from that page: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/bizdev/consultants/consultants.xml >>> >>> My point exactly. I would rather see this shown as HTML/ASCII, the XML >>> dump is not bad but usually end up in hard to read spew of data that >>> non-technical users can't understand what happened. >>> > Would go a long way, the instructions look a bit too technical for > regular users. Even if we assume this are technical people, we should > think this is being applied by the marketing intern used to facebook. > > I would even suggest doing an XForm to generate this XML and spew it > on a texboard with a copy-paste this on your email. > Patches are welcome. >>> >>> Here is an XForm sample: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> action="submit.asp" >>> method="get"/> >>> >>> First Name >>> Last Name >>> Submit >>> >>> >> >> The form is the easy part. The hard part is getting it integrated in >> a way that works with our current server environment. As you've >> probably noticed we don't have mail-in forms anywhere on our website. >> Perhaps there are some security issues here? Infra would know. But >> there would be some work to either enable the server-side processing >> of this, or of generating the XML with instructions for the user to >> copy/paste it into an email to ooo-dev. >> >> Personally I don't think the expected volume of submissions justifies >> the time required to put further automation into play. (My personal >> opinion). As the instructions say, the submittor can just send >> equivalent information to the list and we can do the XML formatting >> for them. > > Ok the original proposal was that it will dump the data in a texbox > (Javascript can do this as opposed to the submit.asp). Just to > pre-format his entry, user can then paste it on an email. > > And if no automation is necessary then I think it should be the first > thing said, like this: > > Please submit the information to our ooo-dev mailing list: > > - Company name > - Country code [1] > - Address > - URL > -Specialities: [2] > > 1 - see our ISO compliant country listing > 2 - see our list of specialties > > The rest of the information like XML, XSD, etc, should be put as > complementary information. > This is a good idea. I'll try to simplify the instructions. -Rob > >> >> -Rob >> > Specially consider the speciality would be all over the place as a > freeform XML. > In the current form it is restricted to enumerated values. This list >>> >>> Oh there is a form, I most have missed that. >>> can expand on request, but I'd like to not have it be freeform so it can be used as a categorization field. The field is the freeform field, where they can put anything relevant. > On 10/14/12, Rob Weir wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Jörg Schmidt >> wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I now have sent an invitation to 41 companies relating to an entry in >>> the >>> directory: >>> http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html >>> >>> And I got the first reply: >>> >>> Listings must be submitted to the ooo-dev mailing list as patches to the file consultants.xml >>> > >>> >>> nicht Ihr Ernst, oder? >>> >>> >>> No problem in this individual case, because I offered my personal >>> help, >>> but I think it may seem too complicated for some users even having to >>> create an XML file. >>> >>> What can we do? >>> >>> For example, i could write a macro for AOO with an input dialog, >>> which >>> simplifies the creation of the XML file. But I need a few days time. >>> >>> Hints? >>> >> >> This is covered in the instructions here: >> >> "If you are not familiar with XML, please submit the equivalent >> information in a post to the ooo-dev list and we can help you format >> it for submission. But your listing will appear faster if it is >> submitted in the proper form." >> >> Reference: >> http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultant-submission.html >> >> A form with Javascript to form the XML might be useful sometime, but >> it is possible that the XML schema might change based on feedback we >> receive during this initial phase
Re: Problems sign in consultants directory
> > i think this reference is perhaps not the totally > appropriate assistance. Please consider two things: > > > > - not all speak english well and want to post on mailing-lists > > I understand. We can add translations of that page if you > think it would help. > > But the mailing list post is required as part of the process. A > listing in the consultants directory is not a right. It is not > guaranteed. It requires review by the PMC, and the PMC does its work > openly on the ooo-dev list. The submittor does not need to subscribe > to ooo-dev, but they do need to submit there listing here. So even if > we find ways to automate this, we would want to ensure that any > automation sends a copy of the submission to ooo-dev. OK, but it is necessary that each user writes itself? In my invitation, I had noted additionally: Should you have any questions, you can contact me personally at. I shall help you. In my opinion it should be possible that the people write me and I will send their data to the mailinglist. *Not* in *all* cases, but in cases where it is necessary. Or is this a problem? Greetings, Jörg
Re: Problems sign in consultants directory
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: >> > i think this reference is perhaps not the totally >> appropriate assistance. Please consider two things: >> > >> > - not all speak english well and want to post on mailing-lists >> >> I understand. We can add translations of that page if you >> think it would help. >> >> But the mailing list post is required as part of the process. A >> listing in the consultants directory is not a right. It is not >> guaranteed. It requires review by the PMC, and the PMC does its work >> openly on the ooo-dev list. The submittor does not need to subscribe >> to ooo-dev, but they do need to submit there listing here. So even if >> we find ways to automate this, we would want to ensure that any >> automation sends a copy of the submission to ooo-dev. > > OK, but it is necessary that each user writes itself? > > In my invitation, I had noted additionally: > > Should you have any questions, you can contact me personally at. I shall help > you. > > > In my opinion it should be possible that the people write me and I will send > their data to the mailinglist. *Not* in *all* cases, but in cases where it is > necessary. Or is this a problem? > That sounds OK also if you are volunteering to help them.The important thing is that the listings are put on the ooo-dev list for review and lazy consensus. -Rob > > Greetings, > Jörg >
Re: Problems sign in consultants directory
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: >> On 10/14/12, Rob Weir wrote: >>> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: On 10/14/12, Rob Weir wrote: > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Alexandro Colorado > wrote: >> Please write an example on the page, not just throw the XML file doing >> something as simple as >> >> Your company >> foo street at disneyland >> http://www.yourcompany.com >> >> > > There is an entire file of real examples linked to from that page: > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/bizdev/consultants/consultants.xml My point exactly. I would rather see this shown as HTML/ASCII, the XML dump is not bad but usually end up in hard to read spew of data that non-technical users can't understand what happened. > >> Would go a long way, the instructions look a bit too technical for >> regular users. Even if we assume this are technical people, we should >> think this is being applied by the marketing intern used to facebook. >> >> I would even suggest doing an XForm to generate this XML and spew it >> on a texboard with a copy-paste this on your email. >> > > Patches are welcome. Here is an XForm sample: >>> action="submit.asp" method="get"/> First Name Last Name Submit >>> >>> The form is the easy part. The hard part is getting it integrated in >>> a way that works with our current server environment. As you've >>> probably noticed we don't have mail-in forms anywhere on our website. >>> Perhaps there are some security issues here? Infra would know. But >>> there would be some work to either enable the server-side processing >>> of this, or of generating the XML with instructions for the user to >>> copy/paste it into an email to ooo-dev. >>> >>> Personally I don't think the expected volume of submissions justifies >>> the time required to put further automation into play. (My personal >>> opinion). As the instructions say, the submittor can just send >>> equivalent information to the list and we can do the XML formatting >>> for them. >> >> Ok the original proposal was that it will dump the data in a texbox >> (Javascript can do this as opposed to the submit.asp). Just to >> pre-format his entry, user can then paste it on an email. >> >> And if no automation is necessary then I think it should be the first >> thing said, like this: >> >> Please submit the information to our ooo-dev mailing list: >> >> - Company name >> - Country code [1] >> - Address >> - URL >> -Specialities: [2] >> >> 1 - see our ISO compliant country listing >> 2 - see our list of specialties >> >> The rest of the information like XML, XSD, etc, should be put as >> complementary information. >> > > This is a good idea. I'll try to simplify the instructions. > Here is the updated version: http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultant-submission.html I split out the XML instructions from the main part, and added an example of a non-XML submission. -Rob > -Rob > >> >>> >>> -Rob >>> > >> Specially consider the speciality would be all over the place as a >> freeform XML. >> > > In the current form it is restricted to enumerated values. This list Oh there is a form, I most have missed that. > can expand on request, but I'd like to not have it be freeform so it > can be used as a categorization field. The field is the > freeform field, where they can put anything relevant. > >> On 10/14/12, Rob Weir wrote: >>> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Jörg Schmidt >>> wrote: Hello, I now have sent an invitation to 41 companies relating to an entry in the directory: http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html And I got the first reply: > Listings must be submitted to the ooo-dev mailing list as patches to > the > file consultants.xml > nicht Ihr Ernst, oder? No problem in this individual case, because I offered my personal help, but I think it may seem too complicated for some users even having to create an XML file. What can we do? For example, i could write a macro for AOO with an input dialog, which simplifies the creation of the XML file. But I need a few days time. Hints? >>> >>> This is covered in the instructions here: >>> >>> "If you are not familiar with XML, please submit the equivalent >>> information in a post to the ooo-dev list and we can help you format >
Re: Problems sign in consultants directory
Hello, > Here is the updated version: > http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultant-submission.html > > I split out the XML instructions from the main part, and added an > example of a non-XML submission. yes, that's much better - small change, big impact ;-) But one more request a consultant asked me why in: http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultant-submission.html at "practice" the entry "training" is not appears, but in: http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html (see second row in table) I think there is a discrepancy. Greetings, Jörg
Re: Problems sign in consultants directory
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: > Hello, > >> Here is the updated version: >> http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultant-submission.html >> >> I split out the XML instructions from the main part, and added an >> example of a non-XML submission. > > yes, that's much better - small change, big impact ;-) > > But one more request > > a consultant asked me why in: > http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultant-submission.html > > at "practice" the entry "training" is not appears, but in: > http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html > > (see second row in table) > > I think there is a discrepancy. > Yes. It is an error. "Training" is permitted. I'll add it to the instructions. -Rob > > > Greetings, > Jörg > >
