RE: Blog Draft: OpenOffice.org Migration -- The Community Forums
orcmid comments=in-line / -Original Message- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 19:56 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; dennis.hamil...@acm.org Subject: Re: Blog Draft: OpenOffice.org Migration -- The Community Forums Sent from my iPhone On Nov 15, 2011, at 8:07 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: Nice effort put into this. Some grammar-weenie-ings and thoughts... -- including of ones own posts should be including of one's own posts. orcmid I'm certain this's right. I had to look to be sure, and learn that the rule about possessive pronouns and its just doesn't apply here. Thanks for the catch. Fixed. /orcmid -- Forum operation More-experienced should be Forum operation. More-experienced. orcmid The second missing . - I think I'm wearing out my keyboard. /orcmid -- The Forums embrace all of the descendants of the original StarOffice/OpenOffice.org that have become siblings in the OpenOffice.org galaxy. Tips and solutions in the use of one release are often useful to users of a product cousin having the same feature. Given descendants and siblings, what is a cousin? Is this a term of art[1]? Does it refer to a branch within OOo, or a branch outside of OOo such as LO? We've learned that peers is a term that works with LO. I would suggest that or related. This way no one will get hung up on relational distance and who is the black sheep of the family. orcmid Thanks Dave and Don. I was working too hard to avoid repetitions of words. Peers works fine, especially since it recognizes equal standing. Good one. /orcmid Regards, Dave -- The OpenOffice.org Community Forums are one way that the Web connects users of OpenOffice.org-related products. There are additional communities across the Internet with similar concerns as well as different specialties. These can employ mailing lists, Internet news groups, and other web-based forums. The Web and search engines bring the different resources of these communities into the reach of each other and users everywhere. The OpenOffice.org Community Forums are now continuing as a substantial resource of that extended community. Not sure this paragraph is as useful as a statement that URLs have been preserved to keep existing search-engine repositories useful, which the next two paragraphs come close to saying. On the other hand, it might look good on a Where to Get Help page on the site. orcmid Funny. I wasn't thinking of maintaining location for search engines at all, but for the preservation of deep linking and ability of individuals to find things where they expected. It also preserved integration from forums to materials referenced elsewhere in the site, but that was probably not going to be an issue. I've added two sentences to the final paragraph to be more emphatic about why preserved locations are important. Thanks Donald, that's a big deal that should not be overlooked. /orcmid -- Closing paragraph? Something along the lines of, See? Wasn't that cool? Or alternately, Y'all come! orcmid Uh, I want to pass on this one. It seems completely out of harmony with the voice and tone of the preceding material. /orcmid? Don [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Term_of_art smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
RE: Blog Draft: OpenOffice.org Migration -- The Community Forums
Interesting. When I post from Windows Live Writer, I have no idea what URL Roller gives to the post, so I can't find it at the preview location. I know the post is there because Windows Live Writer can show me all of the posts that the blog has, and my post-dated one shows there. But I still don't know the correct name to plug in as post-name-goes-here https://blogs.apache.org/roller-ui/authoring/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=post-name-goes-here for review by any editors. (Because I didn't use the Roller browser UI to enter the post, I didn't have the benefit of being able to get the Preview URL from that interface.) If I don't figure this out before the day ends (UTC-0800), I will put the text of the post into an ooo-dev message. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 20:38 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: 'Rob Weir'; 'RGB ES' Subject: Blog Draft: OpenOffice.org Migration -- The Community Forums A new Blog post, OpenOffice.org Migration -- The Community Forums, has been published, post-dated to 2011-11-18T01:05Z. This post should be wherever staging is available for review by editors and committers. (I post via Windows LiveWriter and I have no idea where the preview instructions are, any longer.) - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 13:30 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: 'Rob Weir'; 'RGB ES' Subject: RE: Include link to Forums on incubator page? RGB and I and other Forum mavens are going to work something up and I'll bring it into the blog queue by end of day Monday (US PST). @Rob: Meanwhile, please go ahead and add it to the podling status file. - Dennis E. Hamilton tools for document interoperability, http://nfoWorks.org/ dennis.hamil...@acm.org gsm: +1-206-779-9430 @orcmid -Original Message- From: RGB ES [mailto:rgb.m...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 10:02 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Include link to Forums on incubator page? 2011/11/12 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 9:29 AM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: AOOo Incubator page does not mention the Forums. Considering that the migration to Apache servers is now completed, maybe it is a good idea to add the Forums to the Project Info table. Cheers Ricardo I can update the podling status file to include info on the phpBB forums. Would it be possible for you, or some other forum volunteer, to draft a blog post on the forums, something that explains for an observer what they are and how to get involved? Many more people read the blog than read our podling status file. -Rob Thanks! My English level is not good enough but I'll ask for help on the forums. As soon as I have something, I'll come back. Cheers Ricardo smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: Blog Draft: OpenOffice.org Migration -- The Community Forums
This link should do it: https://blogs.apache.org/roller-ui/authoring/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=openoffice_org_migration_the_community (in the edit view of Roller click on the button below Full Preview) Marcus Am 11/15/2011 09:47 PM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: Interesting. When I post from Windows Live Writer, I have no idea what URL Roller gives to the post, so I can't find it at the preview location. I know the post is there because Windows Live Writer can show me all of the posts that the blog has, and my post-dated one shows there. But I still don't know the correct name to plug in as post-name-goes-here https://blogs.apache.org/roller-ui/authoring/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=post-name-goes-here for review by any editors. (Because I didn't use the Roller browser UI to enter the post, I didn't have the benefit of being able to get the Preview URL from that interface.) If I don't figure this out before the day ends (UTC-0800), I will put the text of the post into an ooo-dev message. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 20:38 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: 'Rob Weir'; 'RGB ES' Subject: Blog Draft: OpenOffice.org Migration -- The Community Forums A new Blog post, OpenOffice.org Migration -- The Community Forums, has been published, post-dated to 2011-11-18T01:05Z. This post should be wherever staging is available for review by editors and committers. (I post via Windows LiveWriter and I have no idea where the preview instructions are, any longer.) - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 13:30 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: 'Rob Weir'; 'RGB ES' Subject: RE: Include link to Forums on incubator page? RGB and I and other Forum mavens are going to work something up and I'll bring it into the blog queue by end of day Monday (US PST). @Rob: Meanwhile, please go ahead and add it to the podling status file. - Dennis E. Hamilton tools for document interoperability,http://nfoWorks.org/ dennis.hamil...@acm.org gsm: +1-206-779-9430 @orcmid -Original Message- From: RGB ES [mailto:rgb.m...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 10:02 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Include link to Forums on incubator page? 2011/11/12 Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 9:29 AM, RGB ESrgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: AOOo Incubator page does not mention the Forums. Considering that the migration to Apache servers is now completed, maybe it is a good idea to add the Forums to the Project Info table. Cheers Ricardo I can update the podling status file to include info on the phpBB forums. Would it be possible for you, or some other forum volunteer, to draft a blog post on the forums, something that explains for an observer what they are and how to get involved? Many more people read the blog than read our podling status file. -Rob Thanks! My English level is not good enough but I'll ask for help on the forums. As soon as I have something, I'll come back. Cheers Ricardo
RE: Blog Draft: OpenOffice.org Migration -- The Community Forums
-Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Wednesday, 16 November 2011 6:48 AM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; dennis.hamil...@acm.org Cc: 'Rob Weir' Subject: RE: Blog Draft: OpenOffice.org Migration -- The Community Forums Interesting. When I post from Windows Live Writer, I have no idea what URL Roller gives to the post, so I can't find it at the preview location. I know the post is there because Windows Live Writer can show me all of the posts that the blog has, and my post-dated one shows there. But I still don't know the correct name to plug in as post-name-goes-here https://blogs.apache.org/roller- ui/authoring/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=post-name-goes-here for review by any editors. (Because I didn't use the Roller browser UI to enter the post, I didn't have the benefit of being able to get the Preview URL from that interface.) If I don't figure this out before the day ends (UTC-0800), I will put the text of the post into an ooo-dev message. What you have done is 'publish' the post with a future date. For people to 'preview' a post one must save it as a draft entry first. With WLW - the 'Post draft to blog' button is what you need. To get the preview URL, sorry but I think you'll just have to log in to the OOo blog, choose to view the posts and then click on 'edit' , this will give you the URL. You can then use the url mode you mentioned earlier for people to log in and preview such as: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/test/?previewEntry=this_is_a_draft_post or in your case: https://blogs.apache.org/roller-ui/authoring/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=openoffice_org_migration_the_community or the whole community can preview a blog post without logging in and without needing an account, do this by removing 'roller-ui/authoring/' from the URL to give you an open one like: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=openoffice_org_migration_the_community Should you wish posts/previews to be private and not open for inspection by the general public then asking people to log in and view the post within the GUI is the only way to do that - clicking on http://blogs.apache.org/roller-ui/authoring/entries.rol?weblog=OOo and logging in will give all OOo authors access to the posts to look at. HTH Gav... - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 20:38 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: 'Rob Weir'; 'RGB ES' Subject: Blog Draft: OpenOffice.org Migration -- The Community Forums A new Blog post, OpenOffice.org Migration -- The Community Forums, has been published, post-dated to 2011-11-18T01:05Z. This post should be wherever staging is available for review by editors and committers. (I post via Windows LiveWriter and I have no idea where the preview instructions are, any longer.) - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 13:30 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: 'Rob Weir'; 'RGB ES' Subject: RE: Include link to Forums on incubator page? RGB and I and other Forum mavens are going to work something up and I'll bring it into the blog queue by end of day Monday (US PST). @Rob: Meanwhile, please go ahead and add it to the podling status file. - Dennis E. Hamilton tools for document interoperability, http://nfoWorks.org/ dennis.hamil...@acm.org gsm: +1-206-779-9430 @orcmid -Original Message- From: RGB ES [mailto:rgb.m...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 10:02 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Include link to Forums on incubator page? 2011/11/12 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 9:29 AM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: AOOo Incubator page does not mention the Forums. Considering that the migration to Apache servers is now completed, maybe it is a good idea to add the Forums to the Project Info table. Cheers Ricardo I can update the podling status file to include info on the phpBB forums. Would it be possible for you, or some other forum volunteer, to draft a blog post on the forums, something that explains for an observer what they are and how to get involved? Many more people read the blog than read our podling status file. -Rob Thanks! My English level is not good enough but I'll ask for help on the forums. As soon as I have something, I'll come back. Cheers Ricardo
Re: Blog Draft: OpenOffice.org Migration -- The Community Forums
Out of curiosity (and dumbness, I guess), I suppose I need a separate login/pwd to post to the blog? or to view the link below? Louis On 15 November 2011 16:21, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: This link should do it: https://blogs.apache.org/roller-ui/authoring/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=openoffice_org_migration_the_community (in the edit view of Roller click on the button below Full Preview) Marcus Am 11/15/2011 09:47 PM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: Interesting. When I post from Windows Live Writer, I have no idea what URL Roller gives to the post, so I can't find it at the preview location. I know the post is there because Windows Live Writer can show me all of the posts that the blog has, and my post-dated one shows there. But I still don't know the correct name to plug in as post-name-goes-here https://blogs.apache.org/roller-ui/authoring/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=post-name-goes-here for review by any editors. (Because I didn't use the Roller browser UI to enter the post, I didn't have the benefit of being able to get the Preview URL from that interface.) If I don't figure this out before the day ends (UTC-0800), I will put the text of the post into an ooo-dev message. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 20:38 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: 'Rob Weir'; 'RGB ES' Subject: Blog Draft: OpenOffice.org Migration -- The Community Forums A new Blog post, OpenOffice.org Migration -- The Community Forums, has been published, post-dated to 2011-11-18T01:05Z. This post should be wherever staging is available for review by editors and committers. (I post via Windows LiveWriter and I have no idea where the preview instructions are, any longer.) - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 13:30 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: 'Rob Weir'; 'RGB ES' Subject: RE: Include link to Forums on incubator page? RGB and I and other Forum mavens are going to work something up and I'll bring it into the blog queue by end of day Monday (US PST). @Rob: Meanwhile, please go ahead and add it to the podling status file. - Dennis E. Hamilton tools for document interoperability,http://nfoWorks.org/ dennis.hamil...@acm.org gsm: +1-206-779-9430 @orcmid -Original Message- From: RGB ES [mailto:rgb.m...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 10:02 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Include link to Forums on incubator page? 2011/11/12 Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 9:29 AM, RGB ESrgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: AOOo Incubator page does not mention the Forums. Considering that the migration to Apache servers is now completed, maybe it is a good idea to add the Forums to the Project Info table. Cheers Ricardo I can update the podling status file to include info on the phpBB forums. Would it be possible for you, or some other forum volunteer, to draft a blog post on the forums, something that explains for an observer what they are and how to get involved? Many more people read the blog than read our podling status file. -Rob Thanks! My English level is not good enough but I'll ask for help on the forums. As soon as I have something, I'll come back. Cheers Ricardo
RE: Blog Draft: OpenOffice.org Migration -- The Community Forums
Ahah! There is a public review location for the post. Thanks to Rob for https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=openoffice_org_migration_the_community. The CSS and formatting don't show in that view, but the text is all there. I see that I must do this more often, so I don't forget the ceremonies involved. - Dennis @ Marcus: I forgot how to get to the editor view. I found it again, thanks. I also found Full Preview, which is how to learn how Roller named the file. That was the tricky part. @ Gavin: Thanks. I thought the idea was to post-date posts, since I assume they are still editable. Now they are also publicly reviewable, which seems important since there are only a few of the podling having logon credentials for the blog. @ Louis. That's right, there is separate authentication to author/edit on the Roller account. It's not a personal blog (though there is a way to aggregate personal blogs at Apache Planet). There is a protocol about having posts be where they can be reviewed. -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 12:48 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; dennis.hamil...@acm.org Cc: 'Rob Weir' Subject: RE: Blog Draft: OpenOffice.org Migration -- The Community Forums Interesting. When I post from Windows Live Writer, I have no idea what URL Roller gives to the post, so I can't find it at the preview location. I know the post is there because Windows Live Writer can show me all of the posts that the blog has, and my post-dated one shows there. But I still don't know the correct name to plug in as post-name-goes-here https://blogs.apache.org/roller-ui/authoring/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=post-name-goes-here for review by any editors. (Because I didn't use the Roller browser UI to enter the post, I didn't have the benefit of being able to get the Preview URL from that interface.) If I don't figure this out before the day ends (UTC-0800), I will put the text of the post into an ooo-dev message. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 20:38 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: 'Rob Weir'; 'RGB ES' Subject: Blog Draft: OpenOffice.org Migration -- The Community Forums A new Blog post, OpenOffice.org Migration -- The Community Forums, has been published, post-dated to 2011-11-18T01:05Z. This post should be wherever staging is available for review by editors and committers. (I post via Windows LiveWriter and I have no idea where the preview instructions are, any longer.) [ ... ] smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: Blog Draft: OpenOffice.org Migration -- The Community Forums
Nice effort put into this. Some grammar-weenie-ings and thoughts... -- including of ones own posts should be including of one's own posts. -- Forum operation More-experienced should be Forum operation. More-experienced. -- The Forums embrace all of the descendants of the original StarOffice/OpenOffice.org that have become siblings in the OpenOffice.org galaxy. Tips and solutions in the use of one release are often useful to users of a product cousin having the same feature. Given descendants and siblings, what is a cousin? Is this a term of art[1]? Does it refer to a branch within OOo, or a branch outside of OOo such as LO? -- The OpenOffice.org Community Forums are one way that the Web connects users of OpenOffice.org-related products. There are additional communities across the Internet with similar concerns as well as different specialties. These can employ mailing lists, Internet news groups, and other web-based forums. The Web and search engines bring the different resources of these communities into the reach of each other and users everywhere. The OpenOffice.org Community Forums are now continuing as a substantial resource of that extended community. Not sure this paragraph is as useful as a statement that URLs have been preserved to keep existing search-engine repositories useful, which the next two paragraphs come close to saying. On the other hand, it might look good on a Where to Get Help page on the site. -- Closing paragraph? Something along the lines of, See? Wasn't that cool? Or alternately, Y'all come! Don [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Term_of_art
Re: Blog Draft: OpenOffice.org Migration -- The Community Forums
Sent from my iPhone On Nov 15, 2011, at 8:07 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: Nice effort put into this. Some grammar-weenie-ings and thoughts... -- including of ones own posts should be including of one's own posts. -- Forum operation More-experienced should be Forum operation. More-experienced. -- The Forums embrace all of the descendants of the original StarOffice/OpenOffice.org that have become siblings in the OpenOffice.org galaxy. Tips and solutions in the use of one release are often useful to users of a product cousin having the same feature. Given descendants and siblings, what is a cousin? Is this a term of art[1]? Does it refer to a branch within OOo, or a branch outside of OOo such as LO? We've learned that peers is a term that works with LO. I would suggest that or related. This way no one will get hung up on relational distance and who is the black sheep of the family. Regards, Dave -- The OpenOffice.org Community Forums are one way that the Web connects users of OpenOffice.org-related products. There are additional communities across the Internet with similar concerns as well as different specialties. These can employ mailing lists, Internet news groups, and other web-based forums. The Web and search engines bring the different resources of these communities into the reach of each other and users everywhere. The OpenOffice.org Community Forums are now continuing as a substantial resource of that extended community. Not sure this paragraph is as useful as a statement that URLs have been preserved to keep existing search-engine repositories useful, which the next two paragraphs come close to saying. On the other hand, it might look good on a Where to Get Help page on the site. -- Closing paragraph? Something along the lines of, See? Wasn't that cool? Or alternately, Y'all come! Don [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Term_of_art
Re: Blog Draft: OpenOffice.org Migration -- The Community Forums
This displayed perfectly on my iPhone! Very nicely done Gavin! BTW- I recently forwarded a request for redirection of qa.oo.o/issues to issues.a.o/ooo from the French forum admin. I think.someone else will do it. If needed I'll create a Jira issue Thursday. Thanks for all your support! BR, Dave Sent from my iPhone On Nov 15, 2011, at 9:58 PM, Gavin McDonald ga...@16degrees.com.au wrote: -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Wednesday, 16 November 2011 10:23 AM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; dennis.hamil...@acm.org Cc: 'Rob Weir'; 'RGB ES' Subject: RE: Blog Draft: OpenOffice.org Migration -- The Community Forums Ahah! There is a public review location for the post. Thanks to Rob for https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=openoffice_org_m igration_the_community. Actually, that was thanks to me, I turned you delayed post into a draft, otherwise it would not have been possible to preview, please re-read my post, it is correct. The CSS and formatting don't show in that view, but the text is all there. If you accept security warning about external content, you will get the full CSS and formatting. Gav... I see that I must do this more often, so I don't forget the ceremonies involved. - Dennis @ Marcus: I forgot how to get to the editor view. I found it again, thanks. I also found Full Preview, which is how to learn how Roller named the file. That was the tricky part. @ Gavin: Thanks. I thought the idea was to post-date posts, since I assume they are still editable. Now they are also publicly reviewable, which seems important since there are only a few of the podling having logon credentials for the blog. @ Louis. That's right, there is separate authentication to author/edit on the Roller account. It's not a personal blog (though there is a way to aggregate personal blogs at Apache Planet). There is a protocol about having posts be where they can be reviewed. -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 12:48 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; dennis.hamil...@acm.org Cc: 'Rob Weir' Subject: RE: Blog Draft: OpenOffice.org Migration -- The Community Forums Interesting. When I post from Windows Live Writer, I have no idea what URL Roller gives to the post, so I can't find it at the preview location. I know the post is there because Windows Live Writer can show me all of the posts that the blog has, and my post-dated one shows there. But I still don't know the correct name to plug in as post-name-goes-here https://blogs.apache.org/roller- ui/authoring/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=post-name-goes-here for review by any editors. (Because I didn't use the Roller browser UI to enter the post, I didn't have the benefit of being able to get the Preview URL from that interface.) If I don't figure this out before the day ends (UTC-0800), I will put the text of the post into an ooo-dev message. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 20:38 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: 'Rob Weir'; 'RGB ES' Subject: Blog Draft: OpenOffice.org Migration -- The Community Forums A new Blog post, OpenOffice.org Migration -- The Community Forums, has been published, post-dated to 2011-11-18T01:05Z. This post should be wherever staging is available for review by editors and committers. (I post via Windows LiveWriter and I have no idea where the preview instructions are, any longer.) [ ... ]
