Re: [DISCUSS] [PMC] PMC Chair Nominations

2012-10-05 Thread Donald Harbison
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Yong Lin Ma  wrote:
> I am still waiting for Drew's response before I vote for the Chair.

Don't wait too long, or you'll waste your vote. :)

>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 1:03 AM, Andrew Rist  wrote:
>> I would like to open up the vote for PMC Chair later today.  I am at a bit
>> of a loss as to how to play this, so I am looking for input from the
>> community.
>> Here is where we stand on nominees:
>>
>>Active Nominees (Accepted Nomination):
>>Andrea Pescetti (pescetti)
>>
>>Active Nominees (No Reply Yet):
>>Drew Jensen (atjensen)
>>
>>
>>
>>Declining Nominees:
>>
>>Donald Harbison (dpharbison)
>>Pedro Giffuni (pfg)
>>Louis Suarez-Potts (louis)
>>
>>
>> If anyone can reach out to Drew, that would be useful.  I understand that he
>> is more focused on Forums, as compared to the ML.  That said, the Chair
>> would have to do business on, and be active on the ML.
>>
>> Should I start the vote this evening?
>> Should the vote include Andrea and Drew?   (this is my current inclination)
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/3/2012 2:57 PM, Andrew Rist wrote:
>>>
>>> We have heard from Andrea.  Drew and Louis, do you care to respond?
>>>
>>> A.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/1/2012 3:51 PM, Andrew Rist wrote:

 The nominations are in and we have three open nominees (with two nominees
 declining, so far).
 I'll hold the discussions open for 72 hours (more if necessary).  It
 would also be good to hear from the nominees, in terms of their thoughts 
 and
 interest in the position.   That's your topic - discuss...

 Active Nominees:

Andrea Pescetti (pescetti)
Drew Jensen (atjensen)
Louis Suarez-Potts (louis)

 Declining Nominees:

Donald Harbison (dpharbison)
Pedro Giffuni (pfg)

>>
>
>
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Yong Lin Ma


Re: [DISCUSS] [PMC] PMC Chair Nominations

2012-10-05 Thread Yong Lin Ma
I am still waiting for Drew's response before I vote for the Chair.



On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 1:03 AM, Andrew Rist  wrote:
> I would like to open up the vote for PMC Chair later today.  I am at a bit
> of a loss as to how to play this, so I am looking for input from the
> community.
> Here is where we stand on nominees:
>
>Active Nominees (Accepted Nomination):
>Andrea Pescetti (pescetti)
>
>Active Nominees (No Reply Yet):
>Drew Jensen (atjensen)
>
>
>
>Declining Nominees:
>
>Donald Harbison (dpharbison)
>Pedro Giffuni (pfg)
>Louis Suarez-Potts (louis)
>
>
> If anyone can reach out to Drew, that would be useful.  I understand that he
> is more focused on Forums, as compared to the ML.  That said, the Chair
> would have to do business on, and be active on the ML.
>
> Should I start the vote this evening?
> Should the vote include Andrea and Drew?   (this is my current inclination)
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
>
> On 10/3/2012 2:57 PM, Andrew Rist wrote:
>>
>> We have heard from Andrea.  Drew and Louis, do you care to respond?
>>
>> A.
>>
>>
>> On 10/1/2012 3:51 PM, Andrew Rist wrote:
>>>
>>> The nominations are in and we have three open nominees (with two nominees
>>> declining, so far).
>>> I'll hold the discussions open for 72 hours (more if necessary).  It
>>> would also be good to hear from the nominees, in terms of their thoughts and
>>> interest in the position.   That's your topic - discuss...
>>>
>>> Active Nominees:
>>>
>>>Andrea Pescetti (pescetti)
>>>Drew Jensen (atjensen)
>>>Louis Suarez-Potts (louis)
>>>
>>> Declining Nominees:
>>>
>>>Donald Harbison (dpharbison)
>>>Pedro Giffuni (pfg)
>>>
>



-- 
Regards

Yong Lin Ma


Re: [DISCUSS] [PMC] PMC Chair Nominations

2012-10-04 Thread Juergen Schmidt
Am Donnerstag, 4. Oktober 2012 um 19:34 schrieb Donald Harbison:
> On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Andrew Rist  wrote:
> > I would like to open up the vote for PMC Chair later today. I am at a bit
> > of a loss as to how to play this, so I am looking for input from the
> > community.
> > Here is where we stand on nominees:
> > 
> > Active Nominees (Accepted Nomination):
> > Andrea Pescetti (pescetti)
> > 
> > Active Nominees (No Reply Yet):
> > Drew Jensen (atjensen)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Declining Nominees:
> > 
> > Donald Harbison (dpharbison)
> > Pedro Giffuni (pfg)
> > Louis Suarez-Potts (louis)
> > 
> > 
> > If anyone can reach out to Drew, that would be useful. I understand that he
> > is more focused on Forums, as compared to the ML. That said, the Chair
> > would have to do business on, and be active on the ML.
> > 
> 
> 
> I sent Drew a direct email... with a link to your post here.
> Hopefully, he'll see it soon. Otherwise, I think it's best to start
> the ballot. It'd be fantastic to tee up graduation for the October
> 17th BoD meeting. (IMHO).
> 
> 

I agree and I also have send Drew an email and asked him for feedback on the 
mailing list.

Juergen
> 
> > 
> > Should I start the vote this evening?
> > Should the vote include Andrea and Drew? (this is my current inclination)
> > 
> > Andrew
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 10/3/2012 2:57 PM, Andrew Rist wrote:
> > > 
> > > We have heard from Andrea. Drew and Louis, do you care to respond?
> > > 
> > > A.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 10/1/2012 3:51 PM, Andrew Rist wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > The nominations are in and we have three open nominees (with two 
> > > > nominees
> > > > declining, so far).
> > > > I'll hold the discussions open for 72 hours (more if necessary). It
> > > > would also be good to hear from the nominees, in terms of their 
> > > > thoughts and
> > > > interest in the position. That's your topic - discuss...
> > > > 
> > > > Active Nominees:
> > > > 
> > > > Andrea Pescetti (pescetti)
> > > > Drew Jensen (atjensen)
> > > > Louis Suarez-Potts (louis)
> > > > 
> > > > Declining Nominees:
> > > > 
> > > > Donald Harbison (dpharbison)
> > > > Pedro Giffuni (pfg)
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 




Re: [DISCUSS] [PMC] PMC Chair Nominations

2012-10-04 Thread Kay Schenk



On 10/04/2012 10:34 AM, Donald Harbison wrote:

On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Andrew Rist  wrote:

I would like to open up the vote for PMC Chair later today.  I am at a bit
of a loss as to how to play this, so I am looking for input from the
community.
Here is where we stand on nominees:

Active Nominees (Accepted Nomination):
Andrea Pescetti (pescetti)

Active Nominees (No Reply Yet):
Drew Jensen (atjensen)



Declining Nominees:

Donald Harbison (dpharbison)
Pedro Giffuni (pfg)
Louis Suarez-Potts (louis)


If anyone can reach out to Drew, that would be useful.  I understand that he
is more focused on Forums, as compared to the ML.  That said, the Chair
would have to do business on, and be active on the ML.


I sent Drew a direct email... with a link to your post here.
Hopefully, he'll see it soon. Otherwise, I think it's best to start
the ballot. It'd be fantastic to tee up graduation for the October
17th BoD meeting. (IMHO).


yes it would! :)






Should I start the vote this evening?
Should the vote include Andrea and Drew?   (this is my current inclination)

Andrew




On 10/3/2012 2:57 PM, Andrew Rist wrote:


We have heard from Andrea.  Drew and Louis, do you care to respond?

A.


On 10/1/2012 3:51 PM, Andrew Rist wrote:


The nominations are in and we have three open nominees (with two nominees
declining, so far).
I'll hold the discussions open for 72 hours (more if necessary).  It
would also be good to hear from the nominees, in terms of their thoughts and
interest in the position.   That's your topic - discuss...

Active Nominees:

Andrea Pescetti (pescetti)
Drew Jensen (atjensen)
Louis Suarez-Potts (louis)

Declining Nominees:

Donald Harbison (dpharbison)
Pedro Giffuni (pfg)





--

MzK

"Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never
 dealt with a cat."
   -- Robert Heinlein


Re: [DISCUSS] [PMC] PMC Chair Nominations

2012-10-04 Thread Donald Harbison
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Andrew Rist  wrote:
> I would like to open up the vote for PMC Chair later today.  I am at a bit
> of a loss as to how to play this, so I am looking for input from the
> community.
> Here is where we stand on nominees:
>
>Active Nominees (Accepted Nomination):
>Andrea Pescetti (pescetti)
>
>Active Nominees (No Reply Yet):
>Drew Jensen (atjensen)
>
>
>
>Declining Nominees:
>
>Donald Harbison (dpharbison)
>Pedro Giffuni (pfg)
>Louis Suarez-Potts (louis)
>
>
> If anyone can reach out to Drew, that would be useful.  I understand that he
> is more focused on Forums, as compared to the ML.  That said, the Chair
> would have to do business on, and be active on the ML.

I sent Drew a direct email... with a link to your post here.
Hopefully, he'll see it soon. Otherwise, I think it's best to start
the ballot. It'd be fantastic to tee up graduation for the October
17th BoD meeting. (IMHO).

>
> Should I start the vote this evening?
> Should the vote include Andrea and Drew?   (this is my current inclination)
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
>
> On 10/3/2012 2:57 PM, Andrew Rist wrote:
>>
>> We have heard from Andrea.  Drew and Louis, do you care to respond?
>>
>> A.
>>
>>
>> On 10/1/2012 3:51 PM, Andrew Rist wrote:
>>>
>>> The nominations are in and we have three open nominees (with two nominees
>>> declining, so far).
>>> I'll hold the discussions open for 72 hours (more if necessary).  It
>>> would also be good to hear from the nominees, in terms of their thoughts and
>>> interest in the position.   That's your topic - discuss...
>>>
>>> Active Nominees:
>>>
>>>Andrea Pescetti (pescetti)
>>>Drew Jensen (atjensen)
>>>Louis Suarez-Potts (louis)
>>>
>>> Declining Nominees:
>>>
>>>Donald Harbison (dpharbison)
>>>Pedro Giffuni (pfg)
>>>
>


Re: [DISCUSS] [PMC] PMC Chair Nominations

2012-10-04 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
HI

On 12-10-04, at 13:03 , Andrew Rist  wrote:

> I would like to open up the vote for PMC Chair later today.  I am at a bit of 
> a loss as to how to play this, so I am looking for input from the community.
> Here is where we stand on nominees:
> 
>   Active Nominees (Accepted Nomination):
>   Andrea Pescetti (pescetti)
> 
>   Active Nominees (No Reply Yet):
>   Drew Jensen (atjensen)
> 
> 
>   Declining Nominees:
> 
>   Donald Harbison (dpharbison)
>   Pedro Giffuni (pfg)
>   Louis Suarez-Potts (louis)
> 
> 
> If anyone can reach out to Drew, that would be useful.  I understand that he 
> is more focused on Forums, as compared to the ML.  That said, the Chair would 
> have to do business on, and be active on the ML.
> 
> Should I start the vote this evening?
> Should the vote include Andrea and Drew?   (this is my current inclination)
> 
> Andrew

Let's give Drew a final call and start Monday. I've added another one of his 
aliases to the cc list, in bcc.
Should he not reply by Monday, then he ought not to be included. Plenty of time 
for him to have replied.

-louis


> 
> 
> 
> On 10/3/2012 2:57 PM, Andrew Rist wrote:
>> We have heard from Andrea.  Drew and Louis, do you care to respond?
>> 
>> A.
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/1/2012 3:51 PM, Andrew Rist wrote:
>>> The nominations are in and we have three open nominees (with two nominees 
>>> declining, so far).
>>> I'll hold the discussions open for 72 hours (more if necessary).  It would 
>>> also be good to hear from the nominees, in terms of their thoughts and 
>>> interest in the position.   That's your topic - discuss...
>>> 
>>> Active Nominees:
>>> 
>>>   Andrea Pescetti (pescetti)
>>>   Drew Jensen (atjensen)
>>>   Louis Suarez-Potts (louis)
>>> 
>>> Declining Nominees:
>>> 
>>>   Donald Harbison (dpharbison)
>>>   Pedro Giffuni (pfg)
>>> 
> 



Re: [DISCUSS] [PMC] PMC Chair Nominations

2012-10-04 Thread Andrew Rist
I would like to open up the vote for PMC Chair later today.  I am at a 
bit of a loss as to how to play this, so I am looking for input from the 
community.

Here is where we stand on nominees:

   Active Nominees (Accepted Nomination):
   Andrea Pescetti (pescetti)

   Active Nominees (No Reply Yet):
   Drew Jensen (atjensen)


   Declining Nominees:

   Donald Harbison (dpharbison)
   Pedro Giffuni (pfg)
   Louis Suarez-Potts (louis)


If anyone can reach out to Drew, that would be useful.  I understand 
that he is more focused on Forums, as compared to the ML.  That said, 
the Chair would have to do business on, and be active on the ML.


Should I start the vote this evening?
Should the vote include Andrea and Drew?   (this is my current inclination)

Andrew



On 10/3/2012 2:57 PM, Andrew Rist wrote:

We have heard from Andrea.  Drew and Louis, do you care to respond?

A.


On 10/1/2012 3:51 PM, Andrew Rist wrote:
The nominations are in and we have three open nominees (with two 
nominees declining, so far).
I'll hold the discussions open for 72 hours (more if necessary).  It 
would also be good to hear from the nominees, in terms of their 
thoughts and interest in the position.   That's your topic - discuss...


Active Nominees:

   Andrea Pescetti (pescetti)
   Drew Jensen (atjensen)
   Louis Suarez-Potts (louis)

Declining Nominees:

   Donald Harbison (dpharbison)
   Pedro Giffuni (pfg)





Re: [DISCUSS] [PMC] PMC Chair Nominations

2012-10-03 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts

On 12-10-03, at 17:57 , Andrew Rist  wrote:

> We have heard from Andrea.  Drew and Louis, do you care to respond?
> 

yes; was waiting for AP.
So, from me:

1. decline in favour of Andrea
2. +1 for Andrea, in anticipation of a vote on this matter. 
Should there be need, want, desire, I stand (or at the moment, sit) ready to 
help as I can.

Ciao, 

Louis


> A.
> 
> 
> On 10/1/2012 3:51 PM, Andrew Rist wrote:
>> The nominations are in and we have three open nominees (with two nominees 
>> declining, so far). 
>> I'll hold the discussions open for 72 hours (more if necessary).  It would 
>> also be good to hear from the nominees, in terms of their thoughts and 
>> interest in the position.   That's your topic - discuss... 
>> 
>> Active Nominees: 
>> 
>>Andrea Pescetti (pescetti) 
>>Drew Jensen (atjensen) 
>>Louis Suarez-Potts (louis) 
>> 
>> Declining Nominees: 
>> 
>>Donald Harbison (dpharbison) 
>>Pedro Giffuni (pfg) 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> Andrew Rist | Interoperability Architect
> Oracle Corporate Architecture Group
> Redwood Shores, CA | 650.506.9847
> 



Re: [DISCUSS] [PMC] PMC Chair Nominations

2012-10-03 Thread Andrew Rist

We have heard from Andrea.  Drew and Louis, do you care to respond?

A.


On 10/1/2012 3:51 PM, Andrew Rist wrote:
The nominations are in and we have three open nominees (with two 
nominees declining, so far).
I'll hold the discussions open for 72 hours (more if necessary). It 
would also be good to hear from the nominees, in terms of their 
thoughts and interest in the position.   That's your topic - discuss...


Active Nominees:

   Andrea Pescetti (pescetti)
   Drew Jensen (atjensen)
   Louis Suarez-Potts (louis)

Declining Nominees:

   Donald Harbison (dpharbison)
   Pedro Giffuni (pfg)









--

Andrew Rist | Interoperability Architect
OracleCorporate Architecture Group
Redwood Shores, CA | 650.506.9847



Re: [DISCUSS] [PMC] PMC Chair Nominations

2012-10-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Andrew Rist wrote:

I'll hold the discussions open for 72 hours (more if necessary). It
would also be good to hear from the nominees


As for me, I accept the nomination. I must say it came as a surprise to 
see the support of so many community members. This is very rewarding and 
motivating for me to continue my involvement in this project.


I'm available for any further discussions.

As a basis for discussion, the role of chair is defined rather well in
http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
and it mainly involves clerical tasks (such as reporting on the project 
status periodically) and community facilitation (ensuring, for example, 
that everyone has a chance to be heard). It is not about leadership in 
its common meaning: a chair has the same privileges as any other PMC member.


Regards,
  Andrea.