Re: Seeking OpenOffice consultants -- help us validate our new consultants listings
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 11:07 PM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 October 2012 17:59, Guy Waterval waterval@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, 2012/10/3 Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com The one issue that arises here is that the term certification could mean certificated to be an authorised developer, trainer or consultant as well as certificated as a competent user of say Writer. This certainly seems to have caused confusion in the past and across at LibreO. However, unless AOO provides some sort of certification of companies authorised to act under its Logo (which seems counter to ASF policy) I doubt certification of companies will be relevant whereas qualifications for individuals are traditionally delivered by third parties so that is more likely to be the take up. I'm not sure to have good understood all this discussion, but these questions of certification could have some importance for companies. By my former employer, we had a quality system (GLP) and all our studies had to be made following the rules of this quality sytem to can be internationally recognized. For instance, we had to validate all the spreasheeds used to calculate the results of our studies and our developments. This long administrativ process had to be registered and repeated if we changed the version of the soft for a new one. Moreover, all the technicians involved in the studies had to prove they have been trained with the soft. So, the certification of trainings is a question that we can't perhaps ignore in the future. It has perhaps not the same importance for the end users but it's another question for companies which have to prove that their employees have been teached to fit the requirements of their quality system. Only my opinion and my apologizes for the noise if I haven't completely understood the sense of this thread. A+ Hi Guy, It all depends on whether there is market demand and someone in a position to meet that demand. We don't really want a lot of items that never get any interest but we do want to be able to include as many as possible. Probably needs a different thread for detailed discussion of certification. The main objective in this thread is to work out the scope for the taxonomy Rob is developing for consultants in general. I'm thinking keeping things simple within what we know from the previous methods with OOo is best. Rob's clear, clean start looks good to me. Agree, Rob did an excellent job, and keep it simple seems key to me. Certification is a delicate subject, it has been discussed few times in the past - at least in the Italian community - and consensus maybe challenging. Let's see what we can do. Roberto -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications (The Schools ITQ) www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales. -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Seeking OpenOffice consultants -- help us validate our new consultants listings
On 3 October 2012 02:36, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 7:52 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Albino B Neto bin...@apache.org wrote: Hi. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: So I'm wondering... are there other kinds of certification of interest, beyond user certification? Does anyone currently (or do we anticipate) something like a Certified OpenOffice Developer? If so we might want to reserve categories for User Certification and Developer Certification. (Admin certification as well?) Certification can be wide. How can we have certification for users, consultants, developers, I believe this could have shed, or maybe just for users and developers. It will depend on where the project wants to reach, but I think having to Users, Consultants and Developers. Because consultants and User: User who want to teach, increases your resume. Consultants who wish to migrate to companies etc. OK. Let me restate this in another way: If we have a fixed schema (a fixed taxonomy or list of areas of practice) then this allows us to generate an UI that categories by this value. So we could have a table of contents or navigation error that takes you to a list of only Migration experts or only Certification experts. For this to work well we need a pre-defined list, of maybe 5-12 categories that we can fit everyone into. But if every listing has its own unique category, then this is not very useful. It doesn't help the consultant or the site visitor. But I don't want to do anything unnatural either. If the real world doesn't fit neatly into 5-12 categories, we could abandon that kind of categorization and just have it be a free entry field with no special navigation. Or even eliminate it altogether in favor of the unstructured description field. If we think we'll have many listings (more than a page) then having a categorization would be helpful to the user, I think, to help them find what they are looking for more easily. In any case thanks to Ian for the listing data. Can anyone else offer a listing? Alexandro, perhaps? Our taxonomy only expanded to 3 'tags', Developer, Training, Consultant. Consulting would cover migration services. Development would cover VARs and ISV. Training will cover certification, book publishers, freelance trainers etc. It was common for companies to have two or three categories. The one issue that arises here is that the term certification could mean certificated to be an authorised developer, trainer or consultant as well as certificated as a competent user of say Writer. This certainly seems to have caused confusion in the past and across at LibreO. However, unless AOO provides some sort of certification of companies authorised to act under its Logo (which seems counter to ASF policy) I doubt certification of companies will be relevant whereas qualifications for individuals are traditionally delivered by third parties so that is more likely to be the take up. -Rob Albino -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice http://es.openoffice.org -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications (The Schools ITQ) www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales.
Re: Seeking OpenOffice consultants -- help us validate our new consultants listings
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 9:36 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 7:52 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Albino B Neto bin...@apache.org wrote: Hi. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: So I'm wondering... are there other kinds of certification of interest, beyond user certification? Does anyone currently (or do we anticipate) something like a Certified OpenOffice Developer? If so we might want to reserve categories for User Certification and Developer Certification. (Admin certification as well?) Certification can be wide. How can we have certification for users, consultants, developers, I believe this could have shed, or maybe just for users and developers. It will depend on where the project wants to reach, but I think having to Users, Consultants and Developers. Because consultants and User: User who want to teach, increases your resume. Consultants who wish to migrate to companies etc. OK. Let me restate this in another way: If we have a fixed schema (a fixed taxonomy or list of areas of practice) then this allows us to generate an UI that categories by this value. So we could have a table of contents or navigation error that takes you to a list of only Migration experts or only Certification experts. For this to work well we need a pre-defined list, of maybe 5-12 categories that we can fit everyone into. But if every listing has its own unique category, then this is not very useful. It doesn't help the consultant or the site visitor. But I don't want to do anything unnatural either. If the real world doesn't fit neatly into 5-12 categories, we could abandon that kind of categorization and just have it be a free entry field with no special navigation. Or even eliminate it altogether in favor of the unstructured description field. If we think we'll have many listings (more than a page) then having a categorization would be helpful to the user, I think, to help them find what they are looking for more easily. In any case thanks to Ian for the listing data. Can anyone else offer a listing? Alexandro, perhaps? Our taxonomy only expanded to 3 'tags', Developer, Training, Consultant. Consulting would cover migration services. Development would cover VARs and ISV. Training will cover certification, book publishers, freelance trainers etc. It was common for companies to have two or three categories. I'm looking at the legacy OOo consultants.ods file, which used to be on the website. It was structured like this: - 404 entities listed - grouped by country - sorted by country and local region, e.g. state or province - no description field, only the entity's name and URL - one or more categories from this list: Training (or training materials) - T Light customization (macros, templates, ...) - L Installation (support, pre-installation or distribution) - I Help desk services, general support – H Software programming (on demand / custom) - S Custom programming (plug-ins, addons, etc) – P Of course, we don't need to do exactly the same thing, but that is one example view of the world. -Rob -Rob Albino -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice http://es.openoffice.org
Re: Seeking OpenOffice consultants -- help us validate our new consultants listings
On 10/3/12, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 9:36 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 7:52 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Albino B Neto bin...@apache.org wrote: Hi. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: So I'm wondering... are there other kinds of certification of interest, beyond user certification? Does anyone currently (or do we anticipate) something like a Certified OpenOffice Developer? If so we might want to reserve categories for User Certification and Developer Certification. (Admin certification as well?) Certification can be wide. How can we have certification for users, consultants, developers, I believe this could have shed, or maybe just for users and developers. It will depend on where the project wants to reach, but I think having to Users, Consultants and Developers. Because consultants and User: User who want to teach, increases your resume. Consultants who wish to migrate to companies etc. OK. Let me restate this in another way: If we have a fixed schema (a fixed taxonomy or list of areas of practice) then this allows us to generate an UI that categories by this value. So we could have a table of contents or navigation error that takes you to a list of only Migration experts or only Certification experts. For this to work well we need a pre-defined list, of maybe 5-12 categories that we can fit everyone into. But if every listing has its own unique category, then this is not very useful. It doesn't help the consultant or the site visitor. But I don't want to do anything unnatural either. If the real world doesn't fit neatly into 5-12 categories, we could abandon that kind of categorization and just have it be a free entry field with no special navigation. Or even eliminate it altogether in favor of the unstructured description field. If we think we'll have many listings (more than a page) then having a categorization would be helpful to the user, I think, to help them find what they are looking for more easily. In any case thanks to Ian for the listing data. Can anyone else offer a listing? Alexandro, perhaps? Our taxonomy only expanded to 3 'tags', Developer, Training, Consultant. Consulting would cover migration services. Development would cover VARs and ISV. Training will cover certification, book publishers, freelance trainers etc. It was common for companies to have two or three categories. I'm looking at the legacy OOo consultants.ods file, which used to be on the website. It was structured like this: - 404 entities listed - grouped by country - sorted by country and local region, e.g. state or province - no description field, only the entity's name and URL - one or more categories from this list: Training (or training materials) - T Light customization (macros, templates, ...) - L Installation (support, pre-installation or distribution) - I Help desk services, general support – H Software programming (on demand / custom) - S Custom programming (plug-ins, addons, etc) – P Of course, we don't need to do exactly the same thing, but that is one example view of the world. In my experience the differentiation between Installation, Custom programming, and even Custom programming was rarely a differentiator. Since you are working on that spreadsheet try to look for categories that are always listed together. That might let you decide if the differentiation between was a necessity. -Rob -Rob Albino -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice http://es.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice http://es.openoffice.org
Re: Seeking OpenOffice consultants -- help us validate our new consultants listings
Hi all, 2012/10/3 Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com The one issue that arises here is that the term certification could mean certificated to be an authorised developer, trainer or consultant as well as certificated as a competent user of say Writer. This certainly seems to have caused confusion in the past and across at LibreO. However, unless AOO provides some sort of certification of companies authorised to act under its Logo (which seems counter to ASF policy) I doubt certification of companies will be relevant whereas qualifications for individuals are traditionally delivered by third parties so that is more likely to be the take up. I'm not sure to have good understood all this discussion, but these questions of certification could have some importance for companies. By my former employer, we had a quality system (GLP) and all our studies had to be made following the rules of this quality sytem to can be internationally recognized. For instance, we had to validate all the spreasheeds used to calculate the results of our studies and our developments. This long administrativ process had to be registered and repeated if we changed the version of the soft for a new one. Moreover, all the technicians involved in the studies had to prove they have been trained with the soft. So, the certification of trainings is a question that we can't perhaps ignore in the future. It has perhaps not the same importance for the end users but it's another question for companies which have to prove that their employees have been teached to fit the requirements of their quality system. Only my opinion and my apologizes for the noise if I haven't completely understood the sense of this thread. A+ -- gw
Re: Seeking OpenOffice consultants -- help us validate our new consultants listings
On 3 October 2012 17:59, Guy Waterval waterval@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, 2012/10/3 Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com The one issue that arises here is that the term certification could mean certificated to be an authorised developer, trainer or consultant as well as certificated as a competent user of say Writer. This certainly seems to have caused confusion in the past and across at LibreO. However, unless AOO provides some sort of certification of companies authorised to act under its Logo (which seems counter to ASF policy) I doubt certification of companies will be relevant whereas qualifications for individuals are traditionally delivered by third parties so that is more likely to be the take up. I'm not sure to have good understood all this discussion, but these questions of certification could have some importance for companies. By my former employer, we had a quality system (GLP) and all our studies had to be made following the rules of this quality sytem to can be internationally recognized. For instance, we had to validate all the spreasheeds used to calculate the results of our studies and our developments. This long administrativ process had to be registered and repeated if we changed the version of the soft for a new one. Moreover, all the technicians involved in the studies had to prove they have been trained with the soft. So, the certification of trainings is a question that we can't perhaps ignore in the future. It has perhaps not the same importance for the end users but it's another question for companies which have to prove that their employees have been teached to fit the requirements of their quality system. Only my opinion and my apologizes for the noise if I haven't completely understood the sense of this thread. A+ Hi Guy, It all depends on whether there is market demand and someone in a position to meet that demand. We don't really want a lot of items that never get any interest but we do want to be able to include as many as possible. Probably needs a different thread for detailed discussion of certification. The main objective in this thread is to work out the scope for the taxonomy Rob is developing for consultants in general. I'm thinking keeping things simple within what we know from the previous methods with OOo is best. Rob's clear, clean start looks good to me. -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications (The Schools ITQ) www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales.
Re: Seeking OpenOffice consultants -- help us validate our new consultants listings
On 1 October 2012 21:46, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: On 1 October 2012 20:25, Albino B Neto bin...@apache.org wrote: Hi. On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: These three are closely-related and it will probably require an iterative approach to get these right. So it would be of great help to me if a few (3-4) consultants on the ooo-dev list would be willing to work with me to get their listings added now. This may require some back-and-forth as we adjust the schema or uncover additional policy nuances. But better to find this out early. +1. Me (Portuguese - Brazil). practice == one or more areas of practice. I'd like to use this for categorization, so it will be a fixed list of options. Currently I'm proposing: Deployment, Migration, Extensions, Training, Customization. Other.Are there any other areas we should mention specifically? No. Are these fields reasonable? Any others we should have? No. And again, getting some real, specific, non-fake data added will help validate the design. Here is some real data. consultant nameThe Learning Machine, Ltd/name countryGlobal/country practiceCertification/practice practiceUser Skills/practice descriptionThe Learning Machine, Ltd provides certification of IT user skills in the context of Apache Open Office, accredited by the UK national Regulators and referenced to the European Qualifications Framework. We work through organisations such as schools, colleges and adult education providers./description websitehttps://theingots.org/community/CertOOo/website emailian.ly...@theingots.org/email phone+44 (0) 1827305940/phone /consultant name == name of your entity, could be your personal name or name of your company country == one or more ISO country codes that you do business in. If you do business everywhere you can say Global practice == one or more areas of practice. I'd like to use this for categorization, so it will be a fixed list of options. Currently I'm proposing: Deployment, Migration, Extensions, Training, Customization. Other.Are there any other areas we should mention specifically? I'm saying certification rather than training because others provide the training we simply provide certification of the outcomes of the training for users rather than developers. OK. I will add Certification. How do you distinguish a practice in User Skills from Training? Or is this something else entirely? Training supports development of user skills, certification confirms they have been acquired. Separating the training from the certification reduces the risk of conflicts of interest. User skills are for people that use the software as opposed to professional IT people like developers, sys admins etc. We can certificate those too but so far the market seems more likely to be viable in the user space. One way of classifying things could be Training at the top level and Certification as a sub-category without necessarily separating out the target audience for the certification. I doubt there will be a lot of certification consultants so it might be better to do it that way, it's simply that it can also be confusing when we don't actually offer training ourselves, schools and colleges do that and we QA the outcomes independently. Not sure if that helps but I can go along with whichever way you think works best overall. -Rob description == plain text, no HTML, description, limit of 300 characters. It should be factual, not an advertisement. website == URL of your website email (optional) == contact email address phone number (optional) == contact phone number -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications (The Schools ITQ) www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales. -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications (The Schools ITQ) www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales.
Re: Seeking OpenOffice consultants -- help us validate our new consultants listings
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 4:32 AM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: On 1 October 2012 21:46, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: On 1 October 2012 20:25, Albino B Neto bin...@apache.org wrote: Hi. On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: These three are closely-related and it will probably require an iterative approach to get these right. So it would be of great help to me if a few (3-4) consultants on the ooo-dev list would be willing to work with me to get their listings added now. This may require some back-and-forth as we adjust the schema or uncover additional policy nuances. But better to find this out early. +1. Me (Portuguese - Brazil). practice == one or more areas of practice. I'd like to use this for categorization, so it will be a fixed list of options. Currently I'm proposing: Deployment, Migration, Extensions, Training, Customization. Other.Are there any other areas we should mention specifically? No. Are these fields reasonable? Any others we should have? No. And again, getting some real, specific, non-fake data added will help validate the design. Here is some real data. consultant nameThe Learning Machine, Ltd/name countryGlobal/country practiceCertification/practice practiceUser Skills/practice descriptionThe Learning Machine, Ltd provides certification of IT user skills in the context of Apache Open Office, accredited by the UK national Regulators and referenced to the European Qualifications Framework. We work through organisations such as schools, colleges and adult education providers./description websitehttps://theingots.org/community/CertOOo/website emailian.ly...@theingots.org/email phone+44 (0) 1827305940/phone /consultant name == name of your entity, could be your personal name or name of your company country == one or more ISO country codes that you do business in. If you do business everywhere you can say Global practice == one or more areas of practice. I'd like to use this for categorization, so it will be a fixed list of options. Currently I'm proposing: Deployment, Migration, Extensions, Training, Customization. Other.Are there any other areas we should mention specifically? I'm saying certification rather than training because others provide the training we simply provide certification of the outcomes of the training for users rather than developers. OK. I will add Certification. How do you distinguish a practice in User Skills from Training? Or is this something else entirely? Training supports development of user skills, certification confirms they have been acquired. Separating the training from the certification reduces the risk of conflicts of interest. User skills are for people that use the software as opposed to professional IT people like developers, sys admins etc. We can certificate those too but so far the market seems more likely to be viable in the user space. One way of classifying things could be Training at the top level and Certification as a sub-category without necessarily separating out the target audience for the certification. I doubt there will be a lot of certification consultants so it might be better to do it that way, it's simply that it can also be confusing when we don't actually offer training ourselves, schools and colleges do that and we QA the outcomes independently. Not sure if that helps but I can go along with whichever way you think works best overall. Since this is intended to be a taxonomy that would apply to everyone, I want to make sure it is clear both to other consultants as well as to visitors to the website. Certification is a good one, and we can describe it in a way that makes it clear that it is different than Training. But it sounds like User Skills is a qualifier of Certification, i.e., User Skills Certification. IMHO, delivering User Skills itself sounds like a training offering. So I'm wondering... are there other kinds of certification of interest, beyond user certification? Does anyone currently (or do we anticipate) something like a Certified OpenOffice Developer? If so we might want to reserve categories for User Certification and Developer Certification. (Admin certification as well?) -Rob -Rob description == plain text, no HTML, description, limit of 300 characters. It should be factual, not an advertisement. website == URL of your website email (optional) == contact email address phone number (optional) == contact phone number -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications (The Schools ITQ) www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire,
Re: Seeking OpenOffice consultants -- help us validate our new consultants listings
Hi. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: So I'm wondering... are there other kinds of certification of interest, beyond user certification? Does anyone currently (or do we anticipate) something like a Certified OpenOffice Developer? If so we might want to reserve categories for User Certification and Developer Certification. (Admin certification as well?) Certification can be wide. How can we have certification for users, consultants, developers, I believe this could have shed, or maybe just for users and developers. It will depend on where the project wants to reach, but I think having to Users, Consultants and Developers. Because consultants and User: User who want to teach, increases your resume. Consultants who wish to migrate to companies etc. Albino
Re: Seeking OpenOffice consultants -- help us validate our new consultants listings
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Albino B Neto bin...@apache.org wrote: Hi. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: So I'm wondering... are there other kinds of certification of interest, beyond user certification? Does anyone currently (or do we anticipate) something like a Certified OpenOffice Developer? If so we might want to reserve categories for User Certification and Developer Certification. (Admin certification as well?) Certification can be wide. How can we have certification for users, consultants, developers, I believe this could have shed, or maybe just for users and developers. It will depend on where the project wants to reach, but I think having to Users, Consultants and Developers. Because consultants and User: User who want to teach, increases your resume. Consultants who wish to migrate to companies etc. OK. Let me restate this in another way: If we have a fixed schema (a fixed taxonomy or list of areas of practice) then this allows us to generate an UI that categories by this value. So we could have a table of contents or navigation error that takes you to a list of only Migration experts or only Certification experts. For this to work well we need a pre-defined list, of maybe 5-12 categories that we can fit everyone into. But if every listing has its own unique category, then this is not very useful. It doesn't help the consultant or the site visitor. But I don't want to do anything unnatural either. If the real world doesn't fit neatly into 5-12 categories, we could abandon that kind of categorization and just have it be a free entry field with no special navigation. Or even eliminate it altogether in favor of the unstructured description field. If we think we'll have many listings (more than a page) then having a categorization would be helpful to the user, I think, to help them find what they are looking for more easily. In any case thanks to Ian for the listing data. Can anyone else offer a listing? Alexandro, perhaps? -Rob Albino
Seeking OpenOffice consultants -- help us validate our new consultants listings
I'd ready to take the consultants directory forward. The main remaining tasks are: 1) Confirm that the current data schema is adequate. 2) Write up submissions requirements for consultants, to get their listings added 3) Get initial listings added These three are closely-related and it will probably require an iterative approach to get these right. So it would be of great help to me if a few (3-4) consultants on the ooo-dev list would be willing to work with me to get their listings added now. This may require some back-and-forth as we adjust the schema or uncover additional policy nuances. But better to find this out early. If you are interested, please sent me an XML fragment like this, with your information in it: consultant nameJoe Bloggs, LLC/name countryDE/country countryCH/country countryAT/country practiceDeployment/practice practiceMigration/practice descriptionJoe Bloggs, LLC provides custom deployment and migration servives for small and medium business moving to OpenOffice. We work with the client from initial evaluation and piloting, through deployment and beyond. References and whitepaper are available on our website./description websitehttp://www/jbloggsllc.com/openoffice.html/website emailj...@jbloggsllc.com/email phone123-456-7890/phone /consultant name == name of your entity, could be your personal name or name of your company country == one or more ISO country codes that you do business in. If you do business everywhere you can say Global practice == one or more areas of practice. I'd like to use this for categorization, so it will be a fixed list of options. Currently I'm proposing: Deployment, Migration, Extensions, Training, Customization. Other.Are there any other areas we should mention specifically? description == plain text, no HTML, description, limit of 300 characters. It should be factual, not an advertisement. website == URL of your website email (optional) == contact email address phone number (optional) == contact phone number Are these fields reasonable? Any others we should have? And again, getting some real, specific, non-fake data added will help validate the design. Thanks, -Rob
Re: Seeking OpenOffice consultants -- help us validate our new consultants listings
Hi. On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: These three are closely-related and it will probably require an iterative approach to get these right. So it would be of great help to me if a few (3-4) consultants on the ooo-dev list would be willing to work with me to get their listings added now. This may require some back-and-forth as we adjust the schema or uncover additional policy nuances. But better to find this out early. +1. Me (Portuguese - Brazil). practice == one or more areas of practice. I'd like to use this for categorization, so it will be a fixed list of options. Currently I'm proposing: Deployment, Migration, Extensions, Training, Customization. Other.Are there any other areas we should mention specifically? No. Are these fields reasonable? Any others we should have? No. And again, getting some real, specific, non-fake data added will help validate the design. Yes. Albino
Re: Seeking OpenOffice consultants -- help us validate our new consultants listings
On 1 October 2012 20:25, Albino B Neto bin...@apache.org wrote: Hi. On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: These three are closely-related and it will probably require an iterative approach to get these right. So it would be of great help to me if a few (3-4) consultants on the ooo-dev list would be willing to work with me to get their listings added now. This may require some back-and-forth as we adjust the schema or uncover additional policy nuances. But better to find this out early. +1. Me (Portuguese - Brazil). practice == one or more areas of practice. I'd like to use this for categorization, so it will be a fixed list of options. Currently I'm proposing: Deployment, Migration, Extensions, Training, Customization. Other.Are there any other areas we should mention specifically? No. Are these fields reasonable? Any others we should have? No. And again, getting some real, specific, non-fake data added will help validate the design. Here is some real data. consultant nameThe Learning Machine, Ltd/name countryGlobal/country practiceCertification/practice practiceUser Skills/practice descriptionThe Learning Machine, Ltd provides certification of IT user skills in the context of Apache Open Office, accredited by the UK national Regulators and referenced to the European Qualifications Framework. We work through organisations such as schools, colleges and adult education providers./description websitehttps://theingots.org/community/CertOOo/website emailian.ly...@theingots.org/email phone+44 (0) 1827305940/phone /consultant name == name of your entity, could be your personal name or name of your company country == one or more ISO country codes that you do business in. If you do business everywhere you can say Global practice == one or more areas of practice. I'd like to use this for categorization, so it will be a fixed list of options. Currently I'm proposing: Deployment, Migration, Extensions, Training, Customization. Other.Are there any other areas we should mention specifically? I'm saying certification rather than training because others provide the training we simply provide certification of the outcomes of the training for users rather than developers. description == plain text, no HTML, description, limit of 300 characters. It should be factual, not an advertisement. website == URL of your website email (optional) == contact email address phone number (optional) == contact phone number -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications (The Schools ITQ) www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales.
Re: Seeking OpenOffice consultants -- help us validate our new consultants listings
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: On 1 October 2012 20:25, Albino B Neto bin...@apache.org wrote: Hi. On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: These three are closely-related and it will probably require an iterative approach to get these right. So it would be of great help to me if a few (3-4) consultants on the ooo-dev list would be willing to work with me to get their listings added now. This may require some back-and-forth as we adjust the schema or uncover additional policy nuances. But better to find this out early. +1. Me (Portuguese - Brazil). practice == one or more areas of practice. I'd like to use this for categorization, so it will be a fixed list of options. Currently I'm proposing: Deployment, Migration, Extensions, Training, Customization. Other.Are there any other areas we should mention specifically? No. Are these fields reasonable? Any others we should have? No. And again, getting some real, specific, non-fake data added will help validate the design. Here is some real data. consultant nameThe Learning Machine, Ltd/name countryGlobal/country practiceCertification/practice practiceUser Skills/practice descriptionThe Learning Machine, Ltd provides certification of IT user skills in the context of Apache Open Office, accredited by the UK national Regulators and referenced to the European Qualifications Framework. We work through organisations such as schools, colleges and adult education providers./description websitehttps://theingots.org/community/CertOOo/website emailian.ly...@theingots.org/email phone+44 (0) 1827305940/phone /consultant name == name of your entity, could be your personal name or name of your company country == one or more ISO country codes that you do business in. If you do business everywhere you can say Global practice == one or more areas of practice. I'd like to use this for categorization, so it will be a fixed list of options. Currently I'm proposing: Deployment, Migration, Extensions, Training, Customization. Other.Are there any other areas we should mention specifically? I'm saying certification rather than training because others provide the training we simply provide certification of the outcomes of the training for users rather than developers. OK. I will add Certification. How do you distinguish a practice in User Skills from Training? Or is this something else entirely? -Rob description == plain text, no HTML, description, limit of 300 characters. It should be factual, not an advertisement. website == URL of your website email (optional) == contact email address phone number (optional) == contact phone number -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications (The Schools ITQ) www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales.
