Which See Gull is Our Logo?
Dear all, I was working on some simple art work. I found two versions of see gulls: https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/528985_356794727712744_1341584190_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/550857_428731650519051_1233679500_n.png You can see there is a difference in color, in the area of the light, in the position of the see gull and in the shadow of the blue ball. The former one seem to came from https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27834483/aoo.svg And the latter one came from https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27834483/AOOIL.svg On this page https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/c7ioAQ Both these files are dated almost the same. So, which one is our logo now? -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc <> News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ Apache OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Which See Gull is Our Logo?
Ok, given my eyesight at the moment, it appears to be the first link you have here: https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/528985_356794727712744_1341584190_n.jpg On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 5:52 PM, imacat wrote: > Dear all, > > I was working on some simple art work. I found two versions of see > gulls: > > > https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/528985_356794727712744_1341584190_n.jpg > > > https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/550857_428731650519051_1233679500_n.png > > You can see there is a difference in color, in the area of the > light, in the position of the see gull and in the shadow of the blue > ball. The former one seem to came from > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27834483/aoo.svg > > And the latter one came from > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27834483/AOOIL.svg > > On this page > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/c7ioAQ > > Both these files are dated almost the same. So, which one is our > logo now? > > -- > Best regards, > imacat ^_*' > PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc > > <> News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ > Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ > Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ > Apache OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ > EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ > Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ > > -- MzK "Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat." -- Robert Heinlein
Re: Which See Gull is Our Logo?
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > Ok, given my eyesight at the moment, it appears to be the first link you > have here: > > > https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/528985_356794727712744_1341584190_n.jpg > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 5:52 PM, imacat wrote: > > > Dear all, > > > > I was working on some simple art work. I found two versions of see > > gulls: > > > > > > > https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/528985_356794727712744_1341584190_n.jpg > > > > > > > https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/550857_428731650519051_1233679500_n.png > > > > You can see there is a difference in color, in the area of the > > light, in the position of the see gull and in the shadow of the blue > > ball. The former one seem to came from > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27834483/aoo.svg > > > > And the latter one came from > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27834483/AOOIL.svg > > > > On this page > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/c7ioAQ > > > > Both these files are dated almost the same. So, which one is our > > logo now? > Anywhere to know who submit the? and also document this logo further, specially the gradient annotations such as the light and the dark as well as the light point to the darkest point. I just produced a couple more images symbols as well as some application logos on my previous email, which are completely made from my artistic eyesight but there is no guidelines that were followed (or that I even know exist). Like I mentioned on the original email, it still needs some polishing. > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > imacat ^_*' > > PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc > > > > <> News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ > > Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ > > Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ > > Apache OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ > > EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ > > Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ > > > > > > > -- > > > MzK > > "Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never > dealt with a cat." > -- Robert Heinlein > -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice http://es.openoffice.org
Re: Which See Gull is Our Logo?
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > >> Ok, given my eyesight at the moment, it appears to be the first link you >> have here: >> >> >> https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/528985_356794727712744_1341584190_n.jpg >> > >> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 5:52 PM, imacat wrote: >> >> > Dear all, >> > >> > I was working on some simple art work. I found two versions of see >> > gulls: >> > >> > >> > >> https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/528985_356794727712744_1341584190_n.jpg >> > >> > >> > >> https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/550857_428731650519051_1233679500_n.png >> > >> > You can see there is a difference in color, in the area of the >> > light, in the position of the see gull and in the shadow of the blue >> > ball. The former one seem to came from >> > >> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27834483/aoo.svg >> > >> > And the latter one came from >> > >> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27834483/AOOIL.svg >> > >> > On this page >> > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/c7ioAQ >> > >> > Both these files are dated almost the same. So, which one is our >> > logo now? >> > > Anywhere to know who submit the? and also document this logo further, > specially the gradient annotations such as the light and the dark as well > as the light point to the darkest point. > > I just produced a couple more images symbols as well as some application > logos on my previous email, which are completely made from my artistic > eyesight but there is no guidelines that were followed (or that I even know > exist). Like I mentioned on the original email, it still needs some > polishing. > Sorry here is the link http://imagebin.org/230760 > > >> > >> > -- >> > Best regards, >> > imacat ^_*' >> > PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc >> > >> > <> News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ >> > Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ >> > Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ >> > Apache OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ >> > EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ >> > Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> >> >> MzK >> >> "Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never >> dealt with a cat." >> -- Robert Heinlein >> > > > > -- > Alexandro Colorado > PPMC Apache OpenOffice > http://es.openoffice.org > > > -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice http://es.openoffice.org
Re: Which See Gull is Our Logo?
On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 08:52:52AM +0800, imacat wrote: > Dear all, > > I was working on some simple art work. I found two versions of see > gulls: > > https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/528985_356794727712744_1341584190_n.jpg > > https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/550857_428731650519051_1233679500_n.png > > You can see there is a difference in color, in the area of the > light, in the position of the see gull and in the shadow of the blue > ball. The former one seem to came from > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27834483/aoo.svg > > And the latter one came from > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27834483/AOOIL.svg > > On this page > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/c7ioAQ > > Both these files are dated almost the same. So, which one is our > logo now? The original icon is from Stella Schulze, as seen in http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo3_refresh.html http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo_ui.html http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo_brand.html etc. Unfortunately, in the software grant there are only raster images. Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina pgpRChrufEAIF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Which See Gull is Our Logo?
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: > On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 08:52:52AM +0800, imacat wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > I was working on some simple art work. I found two versions of see > > gulls: > > > > > https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/528985_356794727712744_1341584190_n.jpg > > > > > https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/550857_428731650519051_1233679500_n.png > > > > You can see there is a difference in color, in the area of the > > light, in the position of the see gull and in the shadow of the blue > > ball. The former one seem to came from > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27834483/aoo.svg > > > > And the latter one came from > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27834483/AOOIL.svg > > > > On this page > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/c7ioAQ > > > > Both these files are dated almost the same. So, which one is our > > logo now? > > The original icon is from Stella Schulze, as seen in > http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo3_refresh.html > http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo_ui.html > http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo_brand.html > etc. > Unfortunately, in the software grant there are only raster images. > The only somewhat salvable documentation about these logos are the ones from the palette which mark a solid #0385CD or RGB: 14 13 205 Listed on the wiki: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Branding_Initiative/branding_guidelines_draft#Brand_Colors I couldn't find any guidelines for the symbol. PD: It marks not possible background colors the ones we use on the site headers, oops! :) > > > Regards > -- > Ariel Constenla-Haile > La Plata, Argentina > -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice http://es.openoffice.org
Re: Which See Gull is Our Logo?
Hi On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 9:52 PM, imacat wrote: > I was working on some simple art work. The picture all are good. For me it will be a difficult choice. (: Albino
Re: Which See Gull is Our Logo?
Here is a comparison of original Orb taken from Stella's site compared to my version of SVG. Unfortunately it was very hard to recreate everything, the shadows and also counter glow on the lower part of the sphere are not identical and also some color gradiance might be slightly unsaturazied. http://imagebin.org/230878 Still Gulls are the right size and maybe some node cleanups might be necesary but proportions are correct. On 10/4/12, Albino B Neto wrote: > Hi > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 9:52 PM, imacat wrote: >> I was working on some simple art work. > > The picture all are good. > > For me it will be a difficult choice. (: > > Albino > -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice http://es.openoffice.org
Re: Which See Gull is Our Logo?
On 10/3/2012 8:24 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 08:52:52AM +0800, imacat wrote: Dear all, I was working on some simple art work. I found two versions of see gulls: https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/528985_356794727712744_1341584190_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/550857_428731650519051_1233679500_n.png You can see there is a difference in color, in the area of the light, in the position of the see gull and in the shadow of the blue ball. The former one seem to came from https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27834483/aoo.svg And the latter one came from https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27834483/AOOIL.svg On this page https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/c7ioAQ Both these files are dated almost the same. So, which one is our logo now? The original icon is from Stella Schulze, as seen in http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo3_refresh.html http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo_ui.html http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo_brand.html etc. Unfortunately, in the software grant there are only raster images. The intent was definitely to get the full set of Oracle owned resources to Apache. If we can find the original images, with the full editable vector format, I'm happy to check them in to svn somewhere. A. Regards -- Andrew Rist | Interoperability Architect OracleCorporate Architecture Group Redwood Shores, CA | 650.506.9847
Re: Which See Gull is Our Logo?
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > Here is a comparison of original Orb taken from Stella's site compared > to my version of SVG. > > Unfortunately it was very hard to recreate everything, the shadows and > also counter glow on the lower part of the sphere are not identical > and also some color gradiance might be slightly unsaturazied. > > http://imagebin.org/230878 > > Still Gulls are the right size and maybe some node cleanups might be > necesary but proportions are correct. > Alexandro -- Well a very good effort! I saw we had http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/orb.jpg and moved it to AOO_logos. I will see what else I can find when I get a moment...either on the MediaWiki or elsewhere. This IS the orb used in our current logo, though...the one imacat asked about. > On 10/4/12, Albino B Neto wrote: > > Hi > > > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 9:52 PM, imacat > wrote: > >> I was working on some simple art work. > > > > The picture all are good. > > > > For me it will be a difficult choice. (: > > > > Albino > > > > > -- > Alexandro Colorado > PPMC Apache OpenOffice > http://es.openoffice.org > -- MzK "Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat." -- Robert Heinlein
Re: Which See Gull is Our Logo?
Hi Andrew, On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 09:21:39AM -0700, Andrew Rist wrote: > >The original icon is from Stella Schulze, as seen in > >http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo3_refresh.html > >http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo_ui.html > >http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo_brand.html > >etc. > >Unfortunately, in the software grant there are only raster images. > The intent was definitely to get the full set of Oracle owned > resources to Apache. If we can find the original images, with the > full editable vector format, I'm happy to check them in to svn > somewhere. I have no idea where those could be; I guess that only Stella knows, may be someone from the old Hamburg team can contact her, and ask. Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina pgpJxA7boBrl0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Which See Gull is Our Logo?
On 10/4/12, Kay Schenk wrote: > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > >> Here is a comparison of original Orb taken from Stella's site compared >> to my version of SVG. >> >> Unfortunately it was very hard to recreate everything, the shadows and >> also counter glow on the lower part of the sphere are not identical >> and also some color gradiance might be slightly unsaturazied. >> >> http://imagebin.org/230878 >> >> Still Gulls are the right size and maybe some node cleanups might be >> necesary but proportions are correct. >> > > Alexandro -- > > Well a very good effort! I saw we had > > http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/orb.jpg > > and moved it to AOO_logos. > > I will see what else I can find when I get a moment...either on the > MediaWiki or elsewhere. This IS the orb used in our current logo, > though...the one imacat asked about. I understand, however this is a rasterized image and hard to adapt to any size proportion, I am trying to get either a 99% exact copy on SVG so that we could get this on native XML/SVG/Canvas source and start documenting the guidelines for creating the 'orb'. At the same time, this is a bit uncertain since other conversations are about pushing for a new logo which could potentially make this work irrelevant. I will keep working on the orb I provided, and see if I can get a generalize approval from the community. At the moment the only real documentation is on the OpenOffice.org brand refresh, and even if there has been a new logo(Incubator), it was somewhat mounted on the original Oracle brand refresh (color palette and such). There is also not much documentation on the application and mime-type guidelines design, or unified ODF. I also wonder which is the name of the typeface of the "Apache OpenOffice" and if there any native SVG. The one I found was just a Jpg wrapped inside an SVG file, no vectors/nodes/etc. > > >> On 10/4/12, Albino B Neto wrote: >> > Hi >> > >> > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 9:52 PM, imacat >> wrote: >> >> I was working on some simple art work. >> > >> > The picture all are good. >> > >> > For me it will be a difficult choice. (: >> > >> > Albino >> > >> >> >> -- >> Alexandro Colorado >> PPMC Apache OpenOffice >> http://es.openoffice.org >> > > > > -- > > MzK > > "Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never > dealt with a cat." > -- Robert Heinlein > -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice http://es.openoffice.org
Re: Which See Gull is Our Logo?
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: > Hi Andrew, > > On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 09:21:39AM -0700, Andrew Rist wrote: >> >The original icon is from Stella Schulze, as seen in >> >http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo3_refresh.html >> >http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo_ui.html >> >http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo_brand.html >> >etc. >> >Unfortunately, in the software grant there are only raster images. >> The intent was definitely to get the full set of Oracle owned >> resources to Apache. If we can find the original images, with the >> full editable vector format, I'm happy to check them in to svn >> somewhere. > > I have no idea where those could be; I guess that only Stella knows, may > be someone from the old Hamburg team can contact her, and ask. > > We went around in circles on this back when we revised the gull logo for the website, last May. All we could find was a high-res raster image. No vector version. So that's what was used when Michael Acevedo designed the logo that we're currently using on the website. At that time there was talk of reverse-engineering an SVG from the bitmap, but the consensus at the time was to defer that since we knew we'd be updating the design of the logo for AOO 4.0. Btw, one location for AOO logos, what I tried to encourage as the central location, is here: http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/ -Rob > Regards > -- > Ariel Constenla-Haile > La Plata, Argentina
Re: Which See Gull is Our Logo?
On 10/4/12, Rob Weir wrote: > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile > wrote: >> Hi Andrew, >> >> On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 09:21:39AM -0700, Andrew Rist wrote: >>> >The original icon is from Stella Schulze, as seen in >>> >http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo3_refresh.html >>> >http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo_ui.html >>> >http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo_brand.html >>> >etc. >>> >Unfortunately, in the software grant there are only raster images. >>> The intent was definitely to get the full set of Oracle owned >>> resources to Apache. If we can find the original images, with the >>> full editable vector format, I'm happy to check them in to svn >>> somewhere. >> >> I have no idea where those could be; I guess that only Stella knows, may >> be someone from the old Hamburg team can contact her, and ask. >> >> > > We went around in circles on this back when we revised the gull logo > for the website, last May. All we could find was a high-res raster > image. No vector version. So that's what was used when Michael > Acevedo designed the logo that we're currently using on the website. > At that time there was talk of reverse-engineering an SVG from the > bitmap, but the consensus at the time was to defer that since we knew > we'd be updating the design of the logo for AOO 4.0. > > Btw, one location for AOO logos, what I tried to encourage as the > central location, is here: > > http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/ hi rob I was on that folder and that's the logo that I thought was a vectorial image but instead is just a jpg inserted on the SVG... no good. http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/svg/OOo_Website_v2_copy.svg opened in vim: > -Rob > > >> Regards >> -- >> Ariel Constenla-Haile >> La Plata, Argentina > -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice http://es.openoffice.org
Re: Which See Gull is Our Logo?
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > On 10/4/12, Rob Weir wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile >> wrote: >>> Hi Andrew, >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 09:21:39AM -0700, Andrew Rist wrote: >The original icon is from Stella Schulze, as seen in >http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo3_refresh.html >http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo_ui.html >http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo_brand.html >etc. >Unfortunately, in the software grant there are only raster images. The intent was definitely to get the full set of Oracle owned resources to Apache. If we can find the original images, with the full editable vector format, I'm happy to check them in to svn somewhere. >>> >>> I have no idea where those could be; I guess that only Stella knows, may >>> be someone from the old Hamburg team can contact her, and ask. >>> >>> >> >> We went around in circles on this back when we revised the gull logo >> for the website, last May. All we could find was a high-res raster >> image. No vector version. So that's what was used when Michael >> Acevedo designed the logo that we're currently using on the website. >> At that time there was talk of reverse-engineering an SVG from the >> bitmap, but the consensus at the time was to defer that since we knew >> we'd be updating the design of the logo for AOO 4.0. >> >> Btw, one location for AOO logos, what I tried to encourage as the >> central location, is here: >> >> http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/ > > hi rob I was on that folder and that's the logo that I thought was a > vectorial image but instead is just a jpg inserted on the SVG... no > good. > > http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/svg/OOo_Website_v2_copy.svg > > opened in vim: > > xlink:href="data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KG > goNSUhEUgAAA4QAAAEsCAYAAACbnn2RCXBIWXMAAA3XAAAN > Right. We know this. I'm just saying that this was all searched for before last May and this is all we were able to find. -Rob > >> >> -Rob >> >> >>> Regards >>> -- >>> Ariel Constenla-Haile >>> La Plata, Argentina >> > > > -- > Alexandro Colorado > PPMC Apache OpenOffice > http://es.openoffice.org
Re: Which See Gull is Our Logo?
On 10/4/12, Rob Weir wrote: > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: >> On 10/4/12, Rob Weir wrote: >>> On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile >>> wrote: Hi Andrew, On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 09:21:39AM -0700, Andrew Rist wrote: > >The original icon is from Stella Schulze, as seen in > >http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo3_refresh.html > >http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo_ui.html > >http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo_brand.html > >etc. > >Unfortunately, in the software grant there are only raster images. > The intent was definitely to get the full set of Oracle owned > resources to Apache. If we can find the original images, with the > full editable vector format, I'm happy to check them in to svn > somewhere. I have no idea where those could be; I guess that only Stella knows, may be someone from the old Hamburg team can contact her, and ask. >>> >>> We went around in circles on this back when we revised the gull logo >>> for the website, last May. All we could find was a high-res raster >>> image. No vector version. So that's what was used when Michael >>> Acevedo designed the logo that we're currently using on the website. >>> At that time there was talk of reverse-engineering an SVG from the >>> bitmap, but the consensus at the time was to defer that since we knew >>> we'd be updating the design of the logo for AOO 4.0. >>> >>> Btw, one location for AOO logos, what I tried to encourage as the >>> central location, is here: >>> >>> http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/ >> >> hi rob I was on that folder and that's the logo that I thought was a >> vectorial image but instead is just a jpg inserted on the SVG... no >> good. >> >> http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/svg/OOo_Website_v2_copy.svg >> >> opened in vim: >> >> > xlink:href="data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KG >> goNSUhEUgAAA4QAAAEsCAYAAACbnn2RCXBIWXMAAA3XAAAN >> > > Right. We know this. I'm just saying that this was all searched for > before last May and this is all we were able to find. Ok I got confused for a moment I thought Michael provided an SVG of the logo with the orb. I have been working more on the lower shades of the sphere, it looks close to 100% now. http://imagebin.org/230914 Right is Stella orb on jpg, left is mine on svg. > > -Rob > >> >>> >>> -Rob >>> >>> Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina >>> >> >> >> -- >> Alexandro Colorado >> PPMC Apache OpenOffice >> http://es.openoffice.org > -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice http://es.openoffice.org
Re: Which See Gull is Our Logo?
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > On 10/4/12, Rob Weir wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: >>> On 10/4/12, Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: > Hi Andrew, > > On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 09:21:39AM -0700, Andrew Rist wrote: >> >The original icon is from Stella Schulze, as seen in >> >http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo3_refresh.html >> >http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo_ui.html >> >http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo_brand.html >> >etc. >> >Unfortunately, in the software grant there are only raster images. >> The intent was definitely to get the full set of Oracle owned >> resources to Apache. If we can find the original images, with the >> full editable vector format, I'm happy to check them in to svn >> somewhere. > > I have no idea where those could be; I guess that only Stella knows, > may > be someone from the old Hamburg team can contact her, and ask. > > We went around in circles on this back when we revised the gull logo for the website, last May. All we could find was a high-res raster image. No vector version. So that's what was used when Michael Acevedo designed the logo that we're currently using on the website. At that time there was talk of reverse-engineering an SVG from the bitmap, but the consensus at the time was to defer that since we knew we'd be updating the design of the logo for AOO 4.0. Btw, one location for AOO logos, what I tried to encourage as the central location, is here: http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/ >>> >>> hi rob I was on that folder and that's the logo that I thought was a >>> vectorial image but instead is just a jpg inserted on the SVG... no >>> good. >>> >>> http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/svg/OOo_Website_v2_copy.svg >>> >>> opened in vim: >>> >>> >> xlink:href="data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KG >>> goNSUhEUgAAA4QAAAEsCAYAAACbnn2RCXBIWXMAAA3XAAAN >>> >> >> Right. We know this. I'm just saying that this was all searched for >> before last May and this is all we were able to find. > > Ok I got confused for a moment I thought Michael provided an SVG of > the logo with the orb. > He did. But it was either the same or a variation on the one that you noted: an SVG pointing to a bitmap for the globe with gulls. -Rob > I have been working more on the lower shades of the sphere, it looks > close to 100% now. > http://imagebin.org/230914 > > Right is Stella orb on jpg, left is mine on svg. > >> >> -Rob >> >>> -Rob > Regards > -- > Ariel Constenla-Haile > La Plata, Argentina >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Alexandro Colorado >>> PPMC Apache OpenOffice >>> http://es.openoffice.org >> > > > -- > Alexandro Colorado > PPMC Apache OpenOffice > http://es.openoffice.org
Re: Which See Gull is Our Logo?
On 10/04/2012 11:51 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: On 10/4/12, Kay Schenk wrote: On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: Here is a comparison of original Orb taken from Stella's site compared to my version of SVG. Unfortunately it was very hard to recreate everything, the shadows and also counter glow on the lower part of the sphere are not identical and also some color gradiance might be slightly unsaturazied. http://imagebin.org/230878 Still Gulls are the right size and maybe some node cleanups might be necesary but proportions are correct. Alexandro -- Well a very good effort! I saw we had http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/orb.jpg and moved it to AOO_logos. I will see what else I can find when I get a moment...either on the MediaWiki or elsewhere. This IS the orb used in our current logo, though...the one imacat asked about. I understand, however this is a rasterized image and hard to adapt to any size proportion, I am trying to get either a 99% exact copy on SVG so that we could get this on native XML/SVG/Canvas source and start documenting the guidelines for creating the 'orb'. At the same time, this is a bit uncertain since other conversations are about pushing for a new logo which could potentially make this work irrelevant. I will keep working on the orb I provided, and see if I can get a generalize approval from the community. Well, it seems a new logo will be postponed for now. I think there is some opinion that it should wait until a new major release. So, I would suggest to continue your efforts at reproducing the orb. At the moment the only real documentation is on the OpenOffice.org brand refresh, and even if there has been a new logo(Incubator), it was somewhat mounted on the original Oracle brand refresh (color palette and such). There is also not much documentation on the application and mime-type guidelines design, or unified ODF. I also wonder which is the name of the typeface of the "Apache OpenOffice" and if there any native SVG. The one I found was just a Jpg wrapped inside an SVG file, no vectors/nodes/etc. Yes, I'm afraid we are lacking in technicalities with some our graphics. I don't know what else I can say about this. It's coem up before. On 10/4/12, Albino B Neto wrote: Hi On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 9:52 PM, imacat wrote: I was working on some simple art work. The picture all are good. For me it will be a difficult choice. (: Albino -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice http://es.openoffice.org -- MzK "Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat." -- Robert Heinlein -- MzK "Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat." -- Robert Heinlein
Re: Which See Gull is Our Logo?
On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 03:05:43PM -0400, Rob Weir wrote: > We went around in circles on this back when we revised the gull logo > for the website, last May. All we could find was a high-res raster > image. No vector version. So that's what was used when Michael > Acevedo designed the logo that we're currently using on the website. > At that time there was talk of reverse-engineering an SVG from the > bitmap, but the consensus at the time was to defer that since we knew > we'd be updating the design of the logo for AOO 4.0. > > Btw, one location for AOO logos, what I tried to encourage as the > central location, is here: > > http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/ ORB images of different sizes, with transparency (most orbs out there have white background), can be taken from http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/trunk/main/sysui/desktop/icons/ooo3_main_app.ico Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina pgpuSBhPv0XMc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Which See Gull is Our Logo?
Hi, On 04.10.2012 21:05, Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: snip We went around in circles on this back when we revised the gull logo for the website, last May. All we could find was a high-res raster image. No vector version. So that's what was used when Michael Acevedo designed the logo that we're currently using on the website. At that time there was talk of reverse-engineering an SVG from the bitmap, but the consensus at the time was to defer that since we knew we'd be updating the design of the logo for AOO 4.0. Btw, one location for AOO logos, what I tried to encourage as the central location, is here: http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/ I can offer http://imagebin.org/230962, not sure anymore where it came from, though. I remember to have another hires one of the orb&seagulls, probably on my machine @home, I'll check in the evening. HTH! -Rob Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina Sincerely, Armin -- ALG
