Re: [Oorexx-devel] Releasing 5.0 Beta as 5.0 GA ?

2018-06-18 Thread P.O. Jonsson
Dear Rick,

I just wanted to mention that there is a number of Mac installers available here

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/p66c7g01h4jz5ss/AAAZd_Q2yQddrTHagxPo_UiTa?dl=0 


I have been doing some work on Mac installers and I have made a proper 
GUI-based pkg installer for (an older version of) ooRexx 5.0.0. I have also 
created some command line installers, for instance for standalone use on a USB 
memory, all work. There are more in the pipeline but I got stuck when I tried 
to create them from an automated process (Apple removed some possibilities that 
I need). The installers have been made using the tool „Packages“ and can be 
created ad hoc, I have all the scripts etc necessary. There is also a Jenkins 
slave generating (hopefully) daily builds for Mac in my attic.

I have promised Erich to grind through all the examples to see which ones work 
and which doesn’t, it is in the pipeline for the coming weeks.

I have created a text for the WIKI for Mac as well setting out all the 
necessary steps for creating your own installation (I have not uploaded it).

What is needed it a discussion amongst the developers as to where the 
installation should reside. My .pkg installs in /usr/local (where a majority of 
tools install themselves on MAC) but I have done versions that install in /opt 
as well, in principle I can create an installer for installation anywhere on 
the machine, you just have to agree on one place, or create installers for each 
flavor. The BSF+ooRexx installers from Rony are no different here, as far as 
ooRexx is concerned they work exactly as the ones I have made.

Would it be possible to make a definitive list of „Showstoppers“? I think it 
would be great if ooRexx 5.0.0 would be officially released: currently there is 
no installer available at all for Mac (all older MAC installer are 
non-working). I for one is willing to do any part I can contribute.

Hälsningar/Regards/Grüsse,
P.O. Jonsson
oor...@jonases.se


> Am 17.06.2018 um 15:20 schrieb Rick McGuire :
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 8:21 AM Rony G. Flatscher  > wrote:
> Almost a month has passed since my last posting, so assuming that everyone is 
> just in "wait and see"
> mode. Therefore throwing another stone into the water: how about releasing 
> the current 5.0 Beta this
> coming week?
> :)
> 
> Or are there any showstoppers anyone sees? Is there anything that is 
> currently missing and needs to
> be done?
> 
> There are still a number of bugs and features that still need doc or test 
> work before they can be placed in a pending state. There's also not been any 
> work on a Mac installer created. 
>  
> 
> When suggesting the current beta, mentally I included the great new features 
> "address with" and
> variable references from Rick's sandbox (for each there is a 64-bit Windows 
> ooRexx installation
> package at: 
>  >).
>  AFAIK they
> are not in trunk and hence may need to be added to trunk and maybe it may 
> make sense to create one
> more ooRexx 5.0 beta to get it tested on a wider scale for a few weeks. 
> Alternatively, after
> releasing the current 5.0 beta as GA, these new features may get added to 
> trunk and cause a new 5.1
> beta version to be created which may be released sometimes in the fall.
>  
> There's still a bit a doc and possibly some more testing work needed with the 
> address with and variable reference features. 
> 
>  
> 
> Ad rsock6: not seeing any commits in the repository not sure about its state. 
> However, like with
> Unicode, in the case that IPv6 is really needed for the time being one can 
> use the ooRexx external
> function package BSF4ooRexx to get access to it from ooRexx (in this case 
> even SSL etc. becomes
> available to ooRexx programmers).
> 
> At this point, I'd say that rxsock6 should not be included. Work sort of 
> stalled when I had to go without internet service for over 3 weeks. David's 
> code had a lot of issues and needed a complete redo. There are no tests 
> written for this and it will also need new documentation written. This will 
> need to be snipped out of the trunk build and moved to a sandbox before a 
> release candidate can be created. 
>  
> Rick
> ---rony
> 
> 
> On 22.05.2018 14:42, Rony G. Flatscher wrote:
> > ooRexx 5.0 Beta has been out for quite some time.
> >
> > Besides its great new features it has proved to be stabler than 4.2.0 and 
> > much faster in quite a few
> > aspects!
> >
> > As there are no new bugs reported against ooRexx 5.0 Beta, how about 
> > releasing it as ooRexx 5.0 GA
> > (general availability)?
> >
> > Companies usually would not install software that is labeled "beta".
> >
> > ---rony
> >
> 
> 
> 

Re: [Oorexx-devel] Releasing 5.0 Beta as 5.0 GA ?

2018-06-17 Thread Rick McGuire
On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 8:21 AM Rony G. Flatscher 
wrote:

> Almost a month has passed since my last posting, so assuming that everyone
> is just in "wait and see"
> mode. Therefore throwing another stone into the water: how about releasing
> the current 5.0 Beta this
> coming week?
> :)
>
> Or are there any showstoppers anyone sees? Is there anything that is
> currently missing and needs to
> be done?
>

There are still a number of bugs and features that still need doc or test
work before they can be placed in a pending state. There's also not been
any work on a Mac installer created.


>
> When suggesting the current beta, mentally I included the great new
> features "address with" and
> variable references from Rick's sandbox (for each there is a 64-bit
> Windows ooRexx installation
> package at: <
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/olh1mqfwb4brp7r/AABI1X-Le9zDCJ0gyfvMdKB8a?dl=0>).
> AFAIK they
> are not in trunk and hence may need to be added to trunk and maybe it may
> make sense to create one
> more ooRexx 5.0 beta to get it tested on a wider scale for a few weeks.
> Alternatively, after
> releasing the current 5.0 beta as GA, these new features may get added to
> trunk and cause a new 5.1
> beta version to be created which may be released sometimes in the fall.
>

There's still a bit a doc and possibly some more testing work needed with
the address with and variable reference features.



>
> Ad rsock6: not seeing any commits in the repository not sure about its
> state. However, like with
> Unicode, in the case that IPv6 is really needed for the time being one can
> use the ooRexx external
> function package BSF4ooRexx to get access to it from ooRexx (in this case
> even SSL etc. becomes
> available to ooRexx programmers).
>
> At this point, I'd say that rxsock6 should not be included. Work sort of
stalled when I had to go without internet service for over 3 weeks. David's
code had a lot of issues and needed a complete redo. There are no tests
written for this and it will also need new documentation written. This will
need to be snipped out of the trunk build and moved to a sandbox before a
release candidate can be created.

Rick

> ---rony
>
>
> On 22.05.2018 14:42, Rony G. Flatscher wrote:
> > ooRexx 5.0 Beta has been out for quite some time.
> >
> > Besides its great new features it has proved to be stabler than 4.2.0
> and much faster in quite a few
> > aspects!
> >
> > As there are no new bugs reported against ooRexx 5.0 Beta, how about
> releasing it as ooRexx 5.0 GA
> > (general availability)?
> >
> > Companies usually would not install software that is labeled "beta".
> >
> > ---rony
> >
>
>
>
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Re: [Oorexx-devel] Releasing 5.0 Beta as 5.0 GA ?

2018-05-22 Thread Rick McGuire
On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 1:24 PM Jason Martin  wrote:

> Will rxsock6 stuff be in release?
> broke built for me on openindiana.
> missing something in cmakelist;
> not show stopper though
>

Undetermined at this point. It has a lot of problems and needs a complete
rethink. I thought I had the build disabled in cmake.

Rick

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Re: [Oorexx-devel] Releasing 5.0 Beta as 5.0 GA ?

2018-05-22 Thread Jason Martin
Will rxsock6 stuff be in release?
broke built for me on openindiana.
missing something in cmakelist;
not show stopper though
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[Oorexx-devel] Releasing 5.0 Beta as 5.0 GA ?

2018-05-22 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
ooRexx 5.0 Beta has been out for quite some time.

Besides its great new features it has proved to be stabler than 4.2.0 and much 
faster in quite a few
aspects!

As there are no new bugs reported against ooRexx 5.0 Beta, how about releasing 
it as ooRexx 5.0 GA
(general availability)?

Companies usually would not install software that is labeled "beta".

---rony



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