[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Bug squashing days

2014-07-25 Thread Kathy Lussier

Hi all,

Last fall, I put out an e-mail message suggesting community bug 
squashing days- http://markmail.org/message/22six3nkgbhr3f3t. It 
received some support at the time, but I didn't do any follow-through to 
make it happen.


Last week, I took some time to update a local spreadsheet I'm 
maintaining on Launchpad bugs that are important to libraries in the 
three MassLNC networks. I was pleased to remove some bugs that have 
since been fixed, but then I added a whole lot more. We started with 
about 50 bugs on the list, and the number is now at 83. These numbers 
reminded me of how it important it is that we try to allocate some time 
on a community level to fix bugs.


I have a more formal proposal I would like to put forward and, if it's 
agreeable to others, I commit to doing my part to try to make these days 
happen.


Proposal: Evergreen Bug Squashing Days

Goal: The goal of bug squashing days is for contributors and volunteers 
to commit the entire day to the following activities:


* Fixing bugs
* Testing bugs that have pullrequests
* General bug wrangling activities (confirming bugs, marking duplicates, 
etc.)

* Pushing bug fixes into Evergreen (for core committers)

When:
I'm proposing that we try to schedule bug squashing days on a quarterly 
basis. I was thinking August/November/February/May would be a good 
schedule where the bug squashing days aren't running up against an 
Evergreen release.


What is Needed:
* Somebody to work on scheduling the day and set up a wiki page (I 
volunteer, but am happy to hand off the task or work with somebody else 
if needed.)
* Volunteers willing to devote a day of their time to the above 
activities. These volunteers do not need to just be developers or sys 
admins. Anyone can confirm bugs, look for duplicates, or perhaps team up 
with a sys admin to test patches.


Extras:
The idea for these bug squashing days came from similar days organized 
by the Koha community. 
http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:Global_bug_squashing_days. 
They do a couple of things that I would love to see for Evergreen bug 
squashing days.


* The Koha community uses this great scoreboard on bug squashing days - 
http://scoreboard.koha-community.org/.  The code for the scoreboard is 
available at https://gitorious.org/scoreboard/scoreboard. It would be 
great if we had a volunteer who was willing to create a similar 
scoreboard for Evergreen bug squashing days.
* The Koha community also has Sandboxes available that makes it easier 
for librarians to test patches. It may be a little difficult to pull 
together something  for Evergreen that's as automated as these 
Sandboxes, but I think it's worthwhile to set a goal to eventually have 
some Sandbox servers available to the Evergreen community where patches 
can be tested (not just on Bug Squashing days).


I've also added this proposal to the agenda for Monday's developers 
meeting. If there is general support for this idea, then I'll put out a 
Doodle poll next week to see if we can schedule a day.


Thanks all!
Kathy

--
Kathy Lussier
Project Coordinator
Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
(508) 343-0128
kluss...@masslnc.org
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier



Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Seeking funding partners for upcoming development projects

2014-07-25 Thread Kathy Lussier

Hey, do we get cookies even though we already committed?

Absolutely!

Kathy Lussier
Project Coordinator
Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
(508) 343-0128
kluss...@masslnc.org
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier

On 7/25/2014 6:17 PM, McCanna, Terran wrote:

Hey, do we get cookies even though we already committed?


Terran McCanna
PINES Program Manager
Georgia Public Library Service
1800 Century Place, Suite 150
Atlanta, GA 30345
404-235-7138
tmcca...@georgialibraries.org

- Original Message -
From: "Kathy Lussier" 
To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 5:32:59 PM
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Seeking funding partners for upcoming   
development projects

Hi all,

I'm pleased to announce that Georgia PINES has joined MassLNC to help to
fund the Enhancements to Evergreen Alerts and Message Center projects.
Thank you Georgia PINES!

We have also received some interest from Evergreen sites on the activity
metric project.

MassLNC would really love to see all three of these projects implemented
in a future release of Evergreen. If anyone is interested in the
projects and can contribute some funds, even if it's only a small amount
of money, please feel free to contact me at kluss...@masslnc.org with
your questions.

What do you get out of being a partner on one of these development
projects? Putting funds to a development project is your opportunity to
make a contribution to the future direction of Evergreen. It's a great
feeling to see a new feature in Evergreen and to say to yourself "I
helped to make that new feature happen." Budgets are tight everywhere,
but by pooling our funds together, we can see some great new
functionality at a lower cost for each partner. The recent MVC/CRA
project (aka icon project)  is a great example of a development project
where many small development contributions, combined with a couple of
contributions from some larger sites, resulted in some nice improvements
for the whole Evergreen community. Being a development partner also
ensures that  you will be part of spec discussions and testing, allowing
you to watch out for the needs of your users while the project is being
shaped.

But, wait, there's more! If you participate in a MassLNC development
project, your organization will be added to the MassLNC Wall of Fame
where we acknowledge and thank all of the sites that have worked with us
on development projects over the years -
http://masslnc.cwmars.org/node/3067. The large number of libraries and
consortia listed there is a testament to the great community we have and
the fact that there are so many sites out there that want to contribute
what they can to help make Evergreen better for everyone.

But that's not all! For a limited time only, if your organization
decides to help fund one of these projects, you will receive a batch of
cookies made by MassLNC coordinator Kathy Lussier (that's me). The
cookies will be hand-delivered to you at the next Evergreen conference
(or, if we're both there, at the next Evergreen hack-a-way).

Please take some time to look over these projects and let me know if
you're interested.

Have a nice weekend everyone!

Kathy

Kathy Lussier
Project Coordinator
Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
(508) 343-0128
kluss...@masslnc.org
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier

On 7/1/2014 2:45 PM, Kathy Lussier wrote:

Hi all,

Today marks the first day of the new fiscal year for MassLNC, and our
development committee has identified a few new enhancements we are
hoping to sponsor over the next year.

We have received proposals from Equinox for all three projects, but
MassLNC needs help to fund these projects. I am sending out this
e-mail to see if there are other Evergreen sites interested in helping
us fund any of these projects. For more details, you can e-mail me
directly at kluss...@masslnc.org.


Also, if you are already working on a similar project or just want to
provide some feedback for our proposed projects, please feel to share
your feedback on the list.

These three projects are listed on the new Proposed Development
Projects wiki page at:
http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=evergreen_features:proposed_development_projects


ACTIVITY METRIC FOR RELEVANCE RANKING
The goal of this project is for a title's activity (circulations,
number of holds, etc.) to affect the relevance of that title when
retrieving search results. Google and Amazon use popularity with much
success when ranking search results. I think Evergreen would see
similar success if it were to incorporate activity into its relevance
algorithm.

As an example, if a user were conducting a keyword search on "abraham
lincoln,"  there are many books, movies, etc. in most US libraries
where the words "abraham lincoln" show up in the title. There would be
no way to tease out the titles that are getting the most attention by
readers. In fact, a title like "Team of Rivals" ranks very low in our
search results even though t

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Seeking funding partners for upcoming development projects

2014-07-25 Thread McCanna, Terran
Hey, do we get cookies even though we already committed?


Terran McCanna 
PINES Program Manager 
Georgia Public Library Service 
1800 Century Place, Suite 150 
Atlanta, GA 30345 
404-235-7138 
tmcca...@georgialibraries.org 

- Original Message -
From: "Kathy Lussier" 
To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 5:32:59 PM
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Seeking funding partners for upcoming   
development projects

Hi all,

I'm pleased to announce that Georgia PINES has joined MassLNC to help to 
fund the Enhancements to Evergreen Alerts and Message Center projects. 
Thank you Georgia PINES!

We have also received some interest from Evergreen sites on the activity 
metric project.

MassLNC would really love to see all three of these projects implemented 
in a future release of Evergreen. If anyone is interested in the 
projects and can contribute some funds, even if it's only a small amount 
of money, please feel free to contact me at kluss...@masslnc.org with 
your questions.

What do you get out of being a partner on one of these development 
projects? Putting funds to a development project is your opportunity to 
make a contribution to the future direction of Evergreen. It's a great 
feeling to see a new feature in Evergreen and to say to yourself "I 
helped to make that new feature happen." Budgets are tight everywhere, 
but by pooling our funds together, we can see some great new 
functionality at a lower cost for each partner. The recent MVC/CRA 
project (aka icon project)  is a great example of a development project 
where many small development contributions, combined with a couple of 
contributions from some larger sites, resulted in some nice improvements 
for the whole Evergreen community. Being a development partner also 
ensures that  you will be part of spec discussions and testing, allowing 
you to watch out for the needs of your users while the project is being 
shaped.

But, wait, there's more! If you participate in a MassLNC development 
project, your organization will be added to the MassLNC Wall of Fame 
where we acknowledge and thank all of the sites that have worked with us 
on development projects over the years - 
http://masslnc.cwmars.org/node/3067. The large number of libraries and 
consortia listed there is a testament to the great community we have and 
the fact that there are so many sites out there that want to contribute 
what they can to help make Evergreen better for everyone.

But that's not all! For a limited time only, if your organization 
decides to help fund one of these projects, you will receive a batch of 
cookies made by MassLNC coordinator Kathy Lussier (that's me). The 
cookies will be hand-delivered to you at the next Evergreen conference 
(or, if we're both there, at the next Evergreen hack-a-way).

Please take some time to look over these projects and let me know if 
you're interested.

Have a nice weekend everyone!

Kathy

Kathy Lussier
Project Coordinator
Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
(508) 343-0128
kluss...@masslnc.org
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier

On 7/1/2014 2:45 PM, Kathy Lussier wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Today marks the first day of the new fiscal year for MassLNC, and our 
> development committee has identified a few new enhancements we are 
> hoping to sponsor over the next year.
>
> We have received proposals from Equinox for all three projects, but 
> MassLNC needs help to fund these projects. I am sending out this 
> e-mail to see if there are other Evergreen sites interested in helping 
> us fund any of these projects. For more details, you can e-mail me 
> directly at kluss...@masslnc.org.
>
>
> Also, if you are already working on a similar project or just want to 
> provide some feedback for our proposed projects, please feel to share 
> your feedback on the list.
>
> These three projects are listed on the new Proposed Development 
> Projects wiki page at:
> http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=evergreen_features:proposed_development_projects
>  
>
>
> ACTIVITY METRIC FOR RELEVANCE RANKING
> The goal of this project is for a title's activity (circulations, 
> number of holds, etc.) to affect the relevance of that title when 
> retrieving search results. Google and Amazon use popularity with much 
> success when ranking search results. I think Evergreen would see 
> similar success if it were to incorporate activity into its relevance 
> algorithm.
>
> As an example, if a user were conducting a keyword search on "abraham 
> lincoln,"  there are many books, movies, etc. in most US libraries 
> where the words "abraham lincoln" show up in the title. There would be 
> no way to tease out the titles that are getting the most attention by 
> readers. In fact, a title like "Team of Rivals" ranks very low in our 
> search results even though there is a fairly high likelihood it is the 
> title the patron is seeking.  By applying a metric based on activity, 
> we might be able to see tho

[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] ***SPAM*** Home baked Cookies (was Re: Seeking funding partners for upcoming development projects)

2014-07-25 Thread Ben Hyman
Way to go MassLNC & Georgia PINES! And thanks Kathy for your unabashed, 
shameless (& I hope, very effective) cookie bribery.
Cheers
Ben

Ben Hyman 
Executive Director | BC Libraries Cooperative
ben.hy...@bc.libraries.coop | 1.855.383.5761 ext 1001 | cell: 250.889.2738
bc.libraries.coop | Twitter: @BCLibrariesCoop

On Jul 25, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Kathy Lussier  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I'm pleased to announce that Georgia PINES has joined MassLNC to help to fund 
> the Enhancements to Evergreen Alerts and Message Center projects. Thank you 
> Georgia PINES!
> 
> We have also received some interest from Evergreen sites on the activity 
> metric project.
> 
> MassLNC would really love to see all three of these projects implemented in a 
> future release of Evergreen. If anyone is interested in the projects and can 
> contribute some funds, even if it's only a small amount of money, please feel 
> free to contact me at kluss...@masslnc.org with your questions.
> 
> What do you get out of being a partner on one of these development projects? 
> Putting funds to a development project is your opportunity to make a 
> contribution to the future direction of Evergreen. It's a great feeling to 
> see a new feature in Evergreen and to say to yourself "I helped to make that 
> new feature happen." Budgets are tight everywhere, but by pooling our funds 
> together, we can see some great new functionality at a lower cost for each 
> partner. The recent MVC/CRA project (aka icon project)  is a great example of 
> a development project where many small development contributions, combined 
> with a couple of contributions from some larger sites, resulted in some nice 
> improvements for the whole Evergreen community. Being a development partner 
> also ensures that  you will be part of spec discussions and testing, allowing 
> you to watch out for the needs of your users while the project is being 
> shaped.
> 
> But, wait, there's more! If you participate in a MassLNC development project, 
> your organization will be added to the MassLNC Wall of Fame where we 
> acknowledge and thank all of the sites that have worked with us on 
> development projects over the years - http://masslnc.cwmars.org/node/3067. 
> The large number of libraries and consortia listed there is a testament to 
> the great community we have and the fact that there are so many sites out 
> there that want to contribute what they can to help make Evergreen better for 
> everyone.
> 
> But that's not all! For a limited time only, if your organization decides to 
> help fund one of these projects, you will receive a batch of cookies made by 
> MassLNC coordinator Kathy Lussier (that's me). The cookies will be 
> hand-delivered to you at the next Evergreen conference (or, if we're both 
> there, at the next Evergreen hack-a-way).
> 
> Please take some time to look over these projects and let me know if you're 
> interested.
> 
> Have a nice weekend everyone!
> 
> Kathy
> 
> Kathy Lussier
> Project Coordinator
> Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
> (508) 343-0128
> kluss...@masslnc.org
> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier
> 
> On 7/1/2014 2:45 PM, Kathy Lussier wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Today marks the first day of the new fiscal year for MassLNC, and our 
>> development committee has identified a few new enhancements we are hoping to 
>> sponsor over the next year.
>> 
>> We have received proposals from Equinox for all three projects, but MassLNC 
>> needs help to fund these projects. I am sending out this e-mail to see if 
>> there are other Evergreen sites interested in helping us fund any of these 
>> projects. For more details, you can e-mail me directly at 
>> kluss...@masslnc.org.
>> 
>> 
>> Also, if you are already working on a similar project or just want to 
>> provide some feedback for our proposed projects, please feel to share your 
>> feedback on the list.
>> 
>> These three projects are listed on the new Proposed Development Projects 
>> wiki page at:
>> http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=evergreen_features:proposed_development_projects
>>  
>> 
>> ACTIVITY METRIC FOR RELEVANCE RANKING
>> The goal of this project is for a title's activity (circulations, number of 
>> holds, etc.) to affect the relevance of that title when retrieving search 
>> results. Google and Amazon use popularity with much success when ranking 
>> search results. I think Evergreen would see similar success if it were to 
>> incorporate activity into its relevance algorithm.
>> 
>> As an example, if a user were conducting a keyword search on "abraham 
>> lincoln,"  there are many books, movies, etc. in most US libraries where the 
>> words "abraham lincoln" show up in the title. There would be no way to tease 
>> out the titles that are getting the most attention by readers. In fact, a 
>> title like "Team of Rivals" ranks very low in our search results even though 
>> there is a fairly high likelihood it is the title the patron is seeking.  By 
>> app

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Seeking funding partners for upcoming development projects

2014-07-25 Thread Kathy Lussier

Hi all,

I'm pleased to announce that Georgia PINES has joined MassLNC to help to 
fund the Enhancements to Evergreen Alerts and Message Center projects. 
Thank you Georgia PINES!


We have also received some interest from Evergreen sites on the activity 
metric project.


MassLNC would really love to see all three of these projects implemented 
in a future release of Evergreen. If anyone is interested in the 
projects and can contribute some funds, even if it's only a small amount 
of money, please feel free to contact me at kluss...@masslnc.org with 
your questions.


What do you get out of being a partner on one of these development 
projects? Putting funds to a development project is your opportunity to 
make a contribution to the future direction of Evergreen. It's a great 
feeling to see a new feature in Evergreen and to say to yourself "I 
helped to make that new feature happen." Budgets are tight everywhere, 
but by pooling our funds together, we can see some great new 
functionality at a lower cost for each partner. The recent MVC/CRA 
project (aka icon project)  is a great example of a development project 
where many small development contributions, combined with a couple of 
contributions from some larger sites, resulted in some nice improvements 
for the whole Evergreen community. Being a development partner also 
ensures that  you will be part of spec discussions and testing, allowing 
you to watch out for the needs of your users while the project is being 
shaped.


But, wait, there's more! If you participate in a MassLNC development 
project, your organization will be added to the MassLNC Wall of Fame 
where we acknowledge and thank all of the sites that have worked with us 
on development projects over the years - 
http://masslnc.cwmars.org/node/3067. The large number of libraries and 
consortia listed there is a testament to the great community we have and 
the fact that there are so many sites out there that want to contribute 
what they can to help make Evergreen better for everyone.


But that's not all! For a limited time only, if your organization 
decides to help fund one of these projects, you will receive a batch of 
cookies made by MassLNC coordinator Kathy Lussier (that's me). The 
cookies will be hand-delivered to you at the next Evergreen conference 
(or, if we're both there, at the next Evergreen hack-a-way).


Please take some time to look over these projects and let me know if 
you're interested.


Have a nice weekend everyone!

Kathy

Kathy Lussier
Project Coordinator
Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
(508) 343-0128
kluss...@masslnc.org
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier

On 7/1/2014 2:45 PM, Kathy Lussier wrote:


Hi all,

Today marks the first day of the new fiscal year for MassLNC, and our 
development committee has identified a few new enhancements we are 
hoping to sponsor over the next year.


We have received proposals from Equinox for all three projects, but 
MassLNC needs help to fund these projects. I am sending out this 
e-mail to see if there are other Evergreen sites interested in helping 
us fund any of these projects. For more details, you can e-mail me 
directly at kluss...@masslnc.org.



Also, if you are already working on a similar project or just want to 
provide some feedback for our proposed projects, please feel to share 
your feedback on the list.


These three projects are listed on the new Proposed Development 
Projects wiki page at:
http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=evergreen_features:proposed_development_projects 



ACTIVITY METRIC FOR RELEVANCE RANKING
The goal of this project is for a title's activity (circulations, 
number of holds, etc.) to affect the relevance of that title when 
retrieving search results. Google and Amazon use popularity with much 
success when ranking search results. I think Evergreen would see 
similar success if it were to incorporate activity into its relevance 
algorithm.


As an example, if a user were conducting a keyword search on "abraham 
lincoln,"  there are many books, movies, etc. in most US libraries 
where the words "abraham lincoln" show up in the title. There would be 
no way to tease out the titles that are getting the most attention by 
readers. In fact, a title like "Team of Rivals" ranks very low in our 
search results even though there is a fairly high likelihood it is the 
title the patron is seeking.  By applying a metric based on activity, 
we might be able to see those more-recently popular titles floating 
higher in the search results list.


The current proposal is to make factors like circulation and hold 
activity, record and item age, and item ownership counts available as 
an activity metric. Each factor will embody a "popularity badge" that 
a bib record can earn, and each badge will have a five-point scale, 
where more points indicate a more popular record.


The average of the badge points earned by each record will constitute 
a "popularity star rating". The numbe

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Delete Records

2014-07-25 Thread Ben Shum
Hi Don,

One suggestion I might have initially is to make sure that "Delete volume
with last copy" (Automatically delete a volume when the last linked copy is
delete) is set to TRUE for your library unit.  You can check for that
setting via the library settings editor (Admin --> Local Administration -->
Library Settings Editor).  I imagine that would save a step as you delete
copies from having to also select and choose to delete the call number /
volume as well.  We also do not retain empty bib records on last deletion
of volumes (that's another library setting "Retain empty bib records" which
we set to FALSE).

As far as deleting lots of copies en masse, I imagine you could place all
the items into a copy bucket and then choose to delete all the items in the
bucket.  Alternatively, there have been some script utilities I've borrowed
from MLVC that handle batch copy deletion on a larger scale via command
line action.

Catalogers may have other solutions that help them to process large batches
for deletions.  I'll let them suggest their approaches.

-- Ben



On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Donald Butterworth <
don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu> wrote:

> Everyone,
>
> One of the joys of switching systems is the chance to start with a clean
> slate. Of course cleaning house requires deleting junk. Our junk pile
> consists of about 4000 bib records with attached copy records that need to
> be examined one at a time, and then usually deleted.
>
> It seems like there are quite a few mouse clicks / key strokes involved to
> delete bibs with attached copies. Is there a method of doing this in one
> fell swoop in 2.5.2? If not is there a method in a newer release? Any
> recommendations?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Don
>
> --
> Don Butterworth
> Faculty Associate / Librarian III
> B.L. Fisher Library
> Asbury Theological Seminary
> don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu
> (859) 858-2227
>



-- 
Benjamin Shum
Evergreen Systems Manager
Bibliomation, Inc.
24 Wooster Ave.
Waterbury, CT 06708
203-577-4070, ext. 113


[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Delete Records

2014-07-25 Thread Donald Butterworth
Everyone,

One of the joys of switching systems is the chance to start with a clean
slate. Of course cleaning house requires deleting junk. Our junk pile
consists of about 4000 bib records with attached copy records that need to
be examined one at a time, and then usually deleted.

It seems like there are quite a few mouse clicks / key strokes involved to
delete bibs with attached copies. Is there a method of doing this in one
fell swoop in 2.5.2? If not is there a method in a newer release? Any
recommendations?

Thanks,

Don

-- 
Don Butterworth
Faculty Associate / Librarian III
B.L. Fisher Library
Asbury Theological Seminary
don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu
(859) 858-2227


Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen for Academics -- PAC Flavor

2014-07-25 Thread Kathy Lussier

  * Never make a user click twice if there is a way to click once
  * Must be compatible with all manner of handheld devices
  * Must comply with current accessibility standards for the sight
impaired

I would argue these are principles that should be kept in mind for a 
catalog for all audiences. Looking at the last two: the responsive 
design catalog is fairly new and probably has areas where it could be 
improved for handheld devices. If there is a specific area of the 
catalog that needs improvement for mobile devices, I encourage you to 
file a LP report on it. There were several people involved in that 
project, and I'm sure many of us would be happy to continue work to make 
it better.


My understanding is also that the catalog is WCAG compliant as of 2.6, 
so this is another area where a bug report should be filed if it's not 
meeting standards.



Must comply with current library standards (no matter how ridiculous)


I would need more information on this one.

In my opinion there should be: less art, more text, less white space, 
fewer headings


So *this* is the area where I would say we're talking about an academic 
flavor.  A lot of this is customizable, of course, but, if there was 
consensus among a several academics on this idea of less art, more text, 
etc., then I do think it would be fairly easy to incorporate these 
things into another template directory that is available in the core code.


Note that the author and subject entries are hot links. Clicked 
authors would result in an Author Browse Results Screen. Clicked 
Subjects would result in a Subject Browse Results Screen.


I believe it is critical to treat the whole subject phrase as a single 
entity. Treating each individual subdivision as its own searchable 
entity is not helpful. Probably 10% of the records in our collection 
have the subject subdivisions "Religious aspects -- Christianity." You 
can imagine that the results from a keyword search for either of these 
terms would be unhelpful. On the other hand clicking on the entire 
phrase, such as Psychotherapy -- Religious aspects -- Christianity, 
and being placed on a results screen for that entire phrase would lead 
the researcher to subject areas they may not have been aware of.



The current links in the record were created before a browse search was 
even available in the catalog. Now that we have browse search, I would 
be curious to hear if others think these links should now go to a browse 
search or continue launching a keyword search. I know I've heard this 
suggestion from publics and academics alike. I can't say I have an 
opinion on it, but I think it's a worthwhile discussion to have now that 
we do have a browse search that could be utilized for these links.


Kathy

Kathy Lussier
Project Coordinator
Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
(508) 343-0128
kluss...@masslnc.org
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier

On 7/25/2014 12:10 PM, Donald Butterworth wrote:

Kathy and All,

I have been pondering for a couple days how I would spec out an 
Academic PAC Flavor. I was going to try to write out my thoughts but 
decided it would be easier to understand if I just drew them. So 
please find attached a starting point for what seems to me like a more 
academically oriented bibliographic record display.


Here are some principles keep in mind:

  * Never make a user click twice if there is a way to click once
  * Must be compatible with all manner of handheld devices
  * Must comply with current accessibility standards for the sight
impaired
  * Must comply with current library standards (no matter how ridiculous)
  * In my opinion there should be: less art, more text, less white
space, fewer headings

Note that the author and subject entries are hot links. Clicked 
authors would result in an Author Browse Results Screen. Clicked 
Subjects would result in a Subject Browse Results Screen.


I believe it is critical to treat the whole subject phrase as a single 
entity. Treating each individual subdivision as its own searchable 
entity is not helpful. Probably 10% of the records in our collection 
have the subject subdivisions "Religious aspects -- Christianity." You 
can imagine that the results from a keyword search for either of these 
terms would be unhelpful. On the other hand clicking on the entire 
phrase, such as Psychotherapy -- Religious aspects -- Christianity, 
and being placed on a results screen for that entire phrase would lead 
the researcher to subject areas they may not have been aware of.


That's it for me, for now. Please understand that these are my 
personal meanderings and should not be considered anything officially 
endorsed by my employer.


Happy Friday,

Don

---Kathy Lussier wrote ---

PAC: Academic flavor.
It might be nice to offer a different look to the PAC that defaults 
to a fuller bibliographic description. 
This idea is something that I think would be fairly easy to implement 
by anyone who can customize the OP

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen for Academics

2014-07-25 Thread Gordana Vitez
Hi Kelly,

Not at all! Hopefully, it makes sense to folks.

Thanks!
Gordana

Gordana Vitez
Library Services & Systems Coordinator
Library & Bookstore Services
Welland Campus
Niagara College
gvi...@niagaracollege.ca
905.735.2211 ext 7404
http://www.niagaracollege.ca/library

From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org 
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Kelly 
Drake
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 8:31 AM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen for Academics

Hi Gordana,

Hopefully this wasn't too presumptuous on my part but I added your patron 
upload info as a note to the EFA page. It's a really important option that 
shouldn't be forgotten. Also, having the possibility of an "easy" solution to 
one of the issues, may get us around to tackling it sooner than later?

Kelly

On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Gordana Vitez 
mailto:gvi...@niagaracollege.ca>> wrote:
Hi Martha and other interested academic libraries,

When we went up with Evergreen in 2010, we contracted with Alpha G for a daily 
patron information import program to work between Evergreen and PeopleSoft. 
Unfortunately, they weren't in a position to make it open source. But I wonder 
if it's something that many institutions are interested in, that they would be 
willing to work with the libraries to create a piece based on what they did 
that would be freely available with Evergreen? We import patron info nightly 
and it's pretty much seamless. I don't really worry about it and am happy with 
what it does.

I'm sorry if I'm not describing it well. I'm not overly technical. :-)

Thanks!
Gordana

Gordana Vitez
Library Services & Systems Coordinator
Library & Bookstore Services
Welland Campus
Niagara College
gvi...@niagaracollege.ca
905.735.2211 ext 7404
http://www.niagaracollege.ca/library

-Original Message-
From: 
open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org
 
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org]
 On Behalf Of Martha Driscoll
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 10:13 AM
To: 
open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen for Academics
Hi Kelly,
Another item to add to the list of issues is support for patron record loading. 
 We have developed scripts to load new and update on-file records, but a 
user-friendly interface similar to vandelay would streamline the process.  Some 
of our college staff would also like to manage record loading themselves.

We load student records frequently.  Some colleges provide one file at the 
beginning of each semester, but our community colleges provide weekly files for 
several weeks before and after the start of each semester.  I load 300-400 
files each year for the 10 academic institutions in our consortium.

--
Martha Driscoll
Systems Manager
North of Boston Library Exchange
Danvers, Massachusetts
www.noblenet.org

On 7/21/2014 10:11 AM, Kelly Drake wrote:
>
> Dear Evergreen Community,
>
>
> For the past year, Fenway Libraries Online (FLO), a consortium of 10
> academic libraries in Boston, has been considering a migration to
> Evergreen. Many members of the Evergreen community met and spoke with
> members of FLO during this year’s annual conference in Boston. Thank
> you for your time, patience and information. All your comments and
> suggestions convinced us to continue pursuing a migration to
> Evergreen.
>
>
> Our investigation also suggested that it would be helpful to build an
> academic interest group within the larger Evergreen community.  This
> group would be focused solely on academic issues as they relate to the
> ILS. Several existing Evergreen libraries and consortia have already
> expressed interest in the group and we have tentatively called it
> "Academics for Evergreen".
>
>
> To be most effective, Academics for Evergreen would be composed of any
> individuals or institutions that have an interest in enhancing the
> academic-related functions of Evergreen. Once formed, the group will
> identify the academic-related functions that most need attention and
> work to build knowledge, consensus, and resources to move moving these
> issues forward.  So far we have identified a few of the possible
> issues, such as streamlined creation and management of authority
> records, enhanced search and browse by authority, support for multiple
> subject heading schema, improved staff workflows and possible
> improvements to course reserves integration. This list is by no means
> exhaustive and needs the participation of the Evergreen community to
> improve and refine it.
>
>
> Please respond and let us know if you are interested, have suggestions
> for moving these issues forward, or if you

[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen for Academics -- PAC Flavor

2014-07-25 Thread Donald Butterworth
Kathy and All,

I have been pondering for a couple days how I would spec out an Academic
PAC Flavor. I was going to try to write out my thoughts but decided it
would be easier to understand if I just drew them. So please find attached
a starting point for what seems to me like a more academically oriented
bibliographic record display.

Here are some principles keep in mind:

   - Never make a user click twice if there is a way to click once
   - Must be compatible with all manner of handheld devices
   - Must comply with current accessibility standards for the sight
   impaired
   - Must comply with current library standards (no matter how ridiculous)
   - In my opinion there should be: less art, more text, less white space,
   fewer headings

Note that the author and subject entries are hot links. Clicked authors
would result in an Author Browse Results Screen. Clicked Subjects would
result in a Subject Browse Results Screen.

I believe it is critical to treat the whole subject phrase as a single
entity. Treating each individual subdivision as its own searchable entity
is not helpful. Probably 10% of the records in our collection have the
subject subdivisions "Religious aspects -- Christianity." You can imagine
that the results from a keyword search for either of these terms would be
unhelpful. On the other hand clicking on the entire phrase, such as
Psychotherapy -- Religious aspects -- Christianity, and being placed on a
results screen for that entire phrase would lead the researcher to subject
areas they may not have been aware of.

That's it for me, for now. Please understand that these are my personal
meanderings and should not be considered anything officially endorsed by my
employer.

Happy Friday,

Don

--- Kathy Lussier wrote ---

PAC: Academic flavor.
It might be nice to offer a different look to the PAC that defaults to a
fuller bibliographic description.

This idea is something that I think would be fairly easy to implement by
anyone who can customize the OPAC. You could create an academic_template
directory, add the customized tt2 file there, and then contribute those
changes to the community along with some documentation telling people how
to point to this directory in eg.conf if they want to use an academic
flavor.

We have sites that do use a fuller bibliographic description than the
default, but I think they do so because they find it to be useful for all
of their libraries, not just their academics. Are there other things you
(or other academics out there) would like to see in the academic flavor of
the catalog?

Kathy


-- 
Don Butterworth
Faculty Associate / Librarian III
B.L. Fisher Library
Asbury Theological Seminary
don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu
(859) 858-2227


Academic PAC Flavor.docx
Description: MS-Word 2007 document


Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] issue with hard due date

2014-07-25 Thread Ben Shum
Hi Robert,

Welcome aboard!  I'll try to help where I can, but this is an area of the
system that I don't tend to interact often (maybe once or twice a year to
add new hard due dates for our schools).

Some technical background... hard due dates are stored in the database as
timestamp with time zone format.  So for example, in ours, I can see past
ceiling_date like "2014-06-20 00:00:00-04" from entries in my
config.hard_due_date table.  I'd be curious to see what the actual stored
time and timezone entry was for the hard due date in your situation.
 Perhaps it stored an odd timezone as a result of the timezone on your
database server or something to do with clock/time settings on the client.

>From the staff client point of view, I can see that the entry seen from
Admin -> Server Admin -> Hard Due Date Changes shows me the current ceiling
date entry as "6/20/14 12:00 AM", but when editing it, I only get the date
portion, not the full timestamp.  That might be a potential bug in the
staff client interface between how the dojo elements render the selector
and it should also provide a way to alter / set the timestamp.

If you have direct database access, I would check what the actual timestamp
is for your hard due date entry and if it's somehow been set to 18:59:59
for your timezone, then that's something you can adjust.  Alternatively, if
the timestamp is still 00:00:00, then it might be a matter of finding out
what timezone your database / server / clients are operating on and seeing
which one is off and needing adjustment.

-- Ben


On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Robert Meeks <
robert.me...@asburyseminary.edu> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> As you’ve likely seen Don Butterworth post recently, we’ve just gone live
> with Evergreen 2.5 and have been slowly but surely working our way towards
> 100% functionality. I’ve encountered something perplexing though that I
> can’t seem to find addressed in documentation. For many of our circulation
> policies we’re using a hard due date of 1/15/15. I notice that when
> creating hard due date policies there’s nowhere to specify the time of day,
> just the date. I’ve assumed that maybe that time was set arbitrarily
> somewhere in the system, or else based on a particular closing time set
> somewhere in the org unit settings…but I can’t seem to nail it down. Right
> now the hard due date, when checking items out, is coming up as 1/15/15 at
> 6:59:59pm. Anyone have any pointers as to where I can adjust that time?
>
> Thanks so much for all your help over the past couple of years. I know I
> speak for Don when I say we could not have gotten anywhere close to where
> we are today without all of your help.
>
> *Robert Meeks*
> *Acquisitions Specialist - BL Fisher Library*
> Asbury Theological Seminary
> 204 N. Lexington Ave.
> Wilmore, KY 40390
> p: 859.858.2397
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
Benjamin Shum
Evergreen Systems Manager
Bibliomation, Inc.
24 Wooster Ave.
Waterbury, CT 06708
203-577-4070, ext. 113


Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] misc_util.tt2 and our 508 tag...

2014-07-25 Thread Jason Stephenson
On 07/24/2014 05:31 PM, Lazar, Alexey Vladimirovich wrote:

> Yes, but probably safest not to experiment on a live system. Also, if
> you are not using this approach already, consider using a separate
> folder for your locally customized template files. Otherwise they
> would get overwritten by the next upgrade. Having a separate
> directory for customized files would also let you more easily keep
> track of differences and cross-merge with template files from newer
> versions.

I highly recommend that you learn to use git if you are going to
customize your catalog or other bits of Evergreen. You can keep your
customizations in their own branches in your local git repository and
can check their compatibility with future releases of Evergreen by
merging them from time to time.

git makes it a lot easier to manage changes to files than just
eyeballing them or using other command line tools like diff, etc. In
fact, git is designed to do nothing but manage differences in files
across development and other branches.

You can also track Evergreen development via git, as well as checkout
just the branches for the releases that interest you. That is, you can
install official Evergreen releases from git checkouts. Using git does
not mean you have to install the master branch.


-- 
Jason Stephenson
Assistant Director for Technology Services
Merrimack Valley Library Consortium
1600 Osgood ST, Suite 2094
North Andover, MA 01845
Phone: 978-557-5891
Email: jstephen...@mvlc.org



Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] [Evergreen-admin] misc_util.tt2 and our 508 tag...

2014-07-25 Thread Tony Bandy
Morning everyone,

Thank you so much for the information and updates--especially with the file 
searching!  I'm going to go in and start whacking away at the files today!  
Wish me luck!

--Tony 

Tony Bandy
to...@ohionet.org
OHIONET
1500 West Lane Ave.
Columbus, OH  43221-3975
614-486-2966 x19

-Original Message-
From: evergreen-admin-boun...@list.evergreen-ils.org 
[mailto:evergreen-admin-boun...@list.evergreen-ils.org] On Behalf Of Stephen 
Hovey
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 6:26 AM
To: Lazar, Alexey Vladimirovich; Evergreen Discussion Group; 

Subject: Re: [Evergreen-admin] [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] misc_util.tt2 and our 508 
tag...

If you unix box has it installed (many do by default), locate is faster

locate .tt2

-Original Message-
From: evergreen-admin-boun...@list.evergreen-ils.org 
[mailto:evergreen-admin-boun...@list.evergreen-ils.org] On Behalf Of Lazar, 
Alexey Vladimirovich
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 5:31 PM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group; 
Subject: Re: [Evergreen-admin] [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] misc_util.tt2 and our 508 
tag...


On 2014-07-24, at 14:57 , Tony Bandy  wrote:

> OK...that helps!  I was flying around the file system opening up various 
> *.tt2 files looking for info!

Hello, Tony.

When fishing for strings in pile of files, the find command can be handy. 
Something like:

/openils/var$ find ./ -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep '508'

The first couple of results in my case were:
./templates/opac/parts/record/authors.tt2:xpath => '//*[@tag="508"]'
./templates/opac/parts/record/contents.tt2:xpath => '//*[@tag="508"]'

Although, be ready to cancel the command with Ctrl+C, in case it gets to a 
reports output or logs folder.

> At the risk of driving you (and everyone else crazy) if I open up the 
> authors.tt2 file...can I just remove the offending lines?

Yes, but probably safest not to experiment on a live system. Also, if you are 
not using this approach already, consider using a separate folder for your 
locally customized template files. Otherwise they would get overwritten by the 
next upgrade. Having a separate directory for customized files would also let 
you more easily keep track of differences and cross-merge with template files 
from newer versions.

Aleksey Lazar
IS Developer and Integrator - PALS
http://www.mnpals.org/

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[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] issue with hard due date

2014-07-25 Thread Robert Meeks
Hi all,

As you’ve likely seen Don Butterworth post recently, we’ve just gone live with 
Evergreen 2.5 and have been slowly but surely working our way towards 100% 
functionality. I’ve encountered something perplexing though that I can’t seem 
to find addressed in documentation. For many of our circulation policies we’re 
using a hard due date of 1/15/15. I notice that when creating hard due date 
policies there’s nowhere to specify the time of day, just the date. I’ve 
assumed that maybe that time was set arbitrarily somewhere in the system, or 
else based on a particular closing time set somewhere in the org unit 
settings…but I can’t seem to nail it down. Right now the hard due date, when 
checking items out, is coming up as 1/15/15 at 6:59:59pm. Anyone have any 
pointers as to where I can adjust that time?

Thanks so much for all your help over the past couple of years. I know I speak 
for Don when I say we could not have gotten anywhere close to where we are 
today without all of your help.

Robert Meeks
Acquisitions Specialist - BL Fisher Library
Asbury Theological Seminary
204 N. Lexington Ave.
Wilmore, KY 40390
p: 859.858.2397






Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen for Academics

2014-07-25 Thread Kelly Drake
Hi Gordana,

Hopefully this wasn't too presumptuous on my part but I added your patron
upload info as a note to the EFA page. It's a really important option that
shouldn't be forgotten. Also, having the possibility of an "easy" solution
to one of the issues, may get us around to tackling it sooner than later?

Kelly


On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Gordana Vitez 
wrote:

> Hi Martha and other interested academic libraries,
>
> When we went up with Evergreen in 2010, we contracted with Alpha G for a
> daily patron information import program to work between Evergreen and
> PeopleSoft. Unfortunately, they weren't in a position to make it open
> source. But I wonder if it's something that many institutions are
> interested in, that they would be willing to work with the libraries to
> create a piece based on what they did that would be freely available with
> Evergreen? We import patron info nightly and it's pretty much seamless. I
> don't really worry about it and am happy with what it does.
>
> I'm sorry if I'm not describing it well. I'm not overly technical. :-)
>
> Thanks!
> Gordana
>
> Gordana Vitez
> Library Services & Systems Coordinator
> Library & Bookstore Services
> Welland Campus
> Niagara College
> gvi...@niagaracollege.ca
> 905.735.2211 ext 7404
> http://www.niagaracollege.ca/library
>
> -Original Message-
> From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:
> open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Martha
> Driscoll
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 10:13 AM
> To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org
> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen for Academics
>
> Hi Kelly,
> Another item to add to the list of issues is support for patron record
> loading.  We have developed scripts to load new and update on-file records,
> but a user-friendly interface similar to vandelay would streamline the
> process.  Some of our college staff would also like to manage record
> loading themselves.
>
> We load student records frequently.  Some colleges provide one file at the
> beginning of each semester, but our community colleges provide weekly files
> for several weeks before and after the start of each semester.  I load
> 300-400 files each year for the 10 academic institutions in our consortium.
>
> --
> Martha Driscoll
> Systems Manager
> North of Boston Library Exchange
> Danvers, Massachusetts
> www.noblenet.org
>
> On 7/21/2014 10:11 AM, Kelly Drake wrote:
> >
> > Dear Evergreen Community,
> >
> >
> > For the past year, Fenway Libraries Online (FLO), a consortium of 10
> > academic libraries in Boston, has been considering a migration to
> > Evergreen. Many members of the Evergreen community met and spoke with
> > members of FLO during this year’s annual conference in Boston. Thank
> > you for your time, patience and information. All your comments and
> > suggestions convinced us to continue pursuing a migration to
> > Evergreen.
> >
> >
> > Our investigation also suggested that it would be helpful to build an
> > academic interest group within the larger Evergreen community.  This
> > group would be focused solely on academic issues as they relate to the
> > ILS. Several existing Evergreen libraries and consortia have already
> > expressed interest in the group and we have tentatively called it
> > "Academics for Evergreen".
> >
> >
> > To be most effective, Academics for Evergreen would be composed of any
> > individuals or institutions that have an interest in enhancing the
> > academic-related functions of Evergreen. Once formed, the group will
> > identify the academic-related functions that most need attention and
> > work to build knowledge, consensus, and resources to move moving these
> > issues forward.  So far we have identified a few of the possible
> > issues, such as streamlined creation and management of authority
> > records, enhanced search and browse by authority, support for multiple
> > subject heading schema, improved staff workflows and possible
> > improvements to course reserves integration. This list is by no means
> > exhaustive and needs the participation of the Evergreen community to
> > improve and refine it.
> >
> >
> > Please respond and let us know if you are interested, have suggestions
> > for moving these issues forward, or if you have any questions.
> >
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> >
> > Kelly Drake
> > Systems Librarian
> > Fenway Libraries Online
> > Boston, MA 02115
> > 617-442-2384
> >
> > Conference calls:
> >Boston: 617-989-5050
> >Toll-free: 877-532-8229
> >Conference ID: 933794
> > Web conferencing:
> > https://join.me/flomeeting
> >
>
>


Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen for Academics

2014-07-25 Thread Kelly Drake
Hi Francene and Denise,

Great to have you onboard!  I've added your names and Libraries to the
Academics for Evergreen page,

And also added Francene's request for easier reporting.

Kelly


On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Francene Lewis  wrote:

>  We are interested in being part of the group here.
>
>
>
> I’d love to see an easier user interface for the reporting features. Our
> IT guys are great but it’s difficult to have to ask them to run reports for
> statistics, inventory, collection analysis, etc.
>
>
>
> Francene Lewis
>
> Head of Collection Management
>
> Hekman Library
>
> Calvin College
>
> Grand Rapids, MI
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Donald Butterworth <
> don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu> wrote:
>
> Yeah Kelly!
>
> It will be great to have more academic libraries using Evergreen.
>
> Just off the top of my head, here are some areas that I would like to see
> refined by academics.
>
> Acquisitions: Order Types.
> Types like firm orders, periodical renewals, standing orders for
> monographic series, blanket orders, multi-part monographs
>
> Acquisitions: EDI periodical renewals.
>
> We would really like to see electronic invoicing and ordering work for our
> EBSCO subscriptions.
>
> PAC: Academic flavor.
>
> It might be nice to offer a different look to the PAC that defaults to a
> fuller bibliographic description.
>
> PAC: Federated searching
>
> I would love to not have to spend many thousands of dollars annually, for
> EBSCO Discover.
>
>
>
> Cataloging: Volumes
>
> The way that volume numbering is treated in Evergreen needs to be
> revisited in the light of publications that have Fascicles/Volumes/Parts
> that need to be reflected on a single call number.
>
> Reports:
>
> Out of the box reports that deal with the specific kinds of statistics
> required by Accrediting Agencies.
>
> Welcome Aboard!
>
> Don
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Kelly Drake  wrote:
>
>
>
> Dear Evergreen Community,
>
>
>
> For the past year, Fenway Libraries Online (FLO), a consortium of 10
> academic libraries in Boston, has been considering a migration to
> Evergreen. Many members of the Evergreen community met and spoke with
> members of FLO during this year’s annual conference in Boston. Thank you
> for your time, patience and information. All your comments and suggestions
> convinced us to continue pursuing a migration to Evergreen.
>
>
>
> Our investigation also suggested that it would be helpful to build
> an academic interest group within the larger Evergreen community.  This
> group would be focused solely on academic issues as they relate to the ILS.
> Several existing Evergreen libraries and consortia have already expressed
> interest in the group and we have tentatively called it
> "Academics for Evergreen".
>
>
>
> To be most effective, Academics for Evergreen would be composed of any
> individuals or institutions that have an interest in enhancing the
> academic-related functions of Evergreen. Once formed, the group will
> identify the academic-related functions that most need attention and work
> to build knowledge, consensus, and resources to move moving these issues
> forward.  So far we have identified a few of the possible issues, such as
> streamlined creation and management of authority records, enhanced search
> and browse by authority, support for multiple subject heading schema,
> improved staff workflows and possible improvements to course reserves
> integration. This list is by no means exhaustive and needs the
> participation of the Evergreen community to improve and refine it.
>
>
>
> Please respond and let us know if you are interested, have suggestions for
> moving these issues forward, or if you have any questions.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
> Kelly Drake
> Systems Librarian
> Fenway Libraries Online
> Boston, MA 02115
>
> 617-442-2384
>
>
>
> Conference calls:
>
>   Boston: 617-989-5050
>
>   Toll-free: 877-532-8229
>
>   Conference ID: 933794
>
> Web conferencing:
>
>https://join.me/flomeeting
>
>
>
>
>
>   --
> Don Butterworth
> Faculty Associate / Librarian III
> B.L. Fisher Library
> Asbury Theological Seminary
> don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu
> (859) 858-2227
>
>
>