[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Books on Reserve in Evergreen
Can anyone point me in the right direction to figure out how Evergreen handles books on Reserve? Meaning books placed on a reserve shelf for a professor, for a particular class, for that term to circulate for up to two hours at a time. Thank you, Janice Huber Information Commons Manager 204 N Lexington Ave Wilmore, KY 40390 859.858.2230
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Books on Reserve in Evergreen
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Janice Huber janice.hu...@asburyseminary.edu wrote: Can anyone point me in the right direction to figure out how Evergreen handles books on Reserve? Meaning books placed on a reserve shelf for a professor, for a particular class, for that term to circulate for up to two hours at a time. Hi Janice: You might want to start with https://coffeecode.net/archives/250-Current-state-of-academic-reserves-support-for-Evergreen.html - although it's a post from 2011, it's still reasonably accurate I think. Dan
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Books on Reserve in Evergreen
All – The other alternative is to do what we have done. Just change the item / copy record to have a circulation modifier for 1 hour, 2 hour etc and make the coordinating changes in your circulation policies table. We also changed each item to reside in a new location / collection called Reserves. I have not been able to find a way to “associate” the items with a course or a professor, but you can certainly make notes on the item to that effect if you want. We have never needed all that anyway. We just want to be sure that the items circulate with the correct time frames. So far we have it working to our satisfaction. One problem we have encountered is the due time will often run past our closing time. Does the system not automatically shorten the due time when it conflicts with the open hours of the OU?? I’d like to know how to make that work. And maybe flip the due date / time to the next day? Anyone have any other ideas / suggestions?? I’d be interested to know if there are other institutions actually having a reserve collection that are using Evergreen. Thanks! Jennifer -- Jennifer Walz, MLS - Head of Research Distance Services Kinlaw Library - Asbury University One Macklem Drive, Wilmore, KY 40390 859-858-3511 ext. 2269 jlw...@asbury.edu From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Dan Scott Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 12:16 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Books on Reserve in Evergreen On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Janice Huber janice.hu...@asburyseminary.edumailto:janice.hu...@asburyseminary.edu wrote: Can anyone point me in the right direction to figure out how Evergreen handles books on Reserve? Meaning books placed on a reserve shelf for a professor, for a particular class, for that term to circulate for up to two hours at a time. Hi Janice: You might want to start with https://coffeecode.net/archives/250-Current-state-of-academic-reserves-support-for-Evergreen.html - although it's a post from 2011, it's still reasonably accurate I think. Dan
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Ditch the Bib Call Number search?
Hi all, There is code available at https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1074096 that would remove the bib call number search. A sign-off would be helpful for getting that code into 2.8! Kathy On 01/13/2015 02:08 PM, Rogan Hamby wrote: I've been fairly upfront about wanting to drop it and I think current plans are to do so. The scenarios where it could be useful are rare. On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Donald Butterworth don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu mailto:don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu wrote: Colleagues, In a recent Evergreen for Academics meeting a suggestion was made to eliminate the Bib Call Number search from the Search Input drop-down menu in Advanced Search. This should not be confused with the Call Number (Shelf Browse) found in the Numeric Search drop-down menu. Is there anyone who uses the Bib Call Number search? Are there any objections to removing Bib Call Number in future releases? Is there any interest in adding the Call Number (Shelf Browse) search to the Browse for: drop-down list on the Browse the Catalog screen? Thanks for your input! Don -- Don Butterworth Faculty Associate / Librarian III B.L. Fisher Library Asbury Theological Seminary don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu mailto:don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu (859) 858-2227 tel:%28859%29%20858-2227 -- Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services, York County Library System “You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit me.” ― C.S. Lewis http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis -- Kathy Lussier Project Coordinator Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative (508) 343-0128 kluss...@masslnc.org Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Ditch the Bib Call Number search?
Ask and ye shall receive. On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Kathy Lussier kluss...@masslnc.org wrote: Hi all, There is code available at https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1074096 that would remove the bib call number search. A sign-off would be helpful for getting that code into 2.8! Kathy On 01/13/2015 02:08 PM, Rogan Hamby wrote: I've been fairly upfront about wanting to drop it and I think current plans are to do so. The scenarios where it could be useful are rare. On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Donald Butterworth don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu wrote: Colleagues, In a recent Evergreen for Academics meeting a suggestion was made to eliminate the Bib Call Number search from the Search Input drop-down menu in Advanced Search. This should not be confused with the Call Number (Shelf Browse) found in the Numeric Search drop-down menu. Is there anyone who uses the Bib Call Number search? Are there any objections to removing Bib Call Number in future releases? Is there any interest in adding the Call Number (Shelf Browse) search to the Browse for: drop-down list on the Browse the Catalog screen? Thanks for your input! Don -- Don Butterworth Faculty Associate / Librarian III B.L. Fisher Library Asbury Theological Seminary don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu (859) 858-2227 %28859%29%20858-2227 -- Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services, York County Library System “You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit me.” ― C.S. Lewis http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis -- Kathy Lussier Project Coordinator Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative(508) 343-0128kluss...@masslnc.org Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier -- Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services, York County Library System “You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit me.” ― C.S. Lewis http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Ditch the Bib Call Number search?
I've been fairly upfront about wanting to drop it and I think current plans are to do so. The scenarios where it could be useful are rare. On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Donald Butterworth don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu wrote: Colleagues, In a recent Evergreen for Academics meeting a suggestion was made to eliminate the Bib Call Number search from the Search Input drop-down menu in Advanced Search. This should not be confused with the Call Number (Shelf Browse) found in the Numeric Search drop-down menu. Is there anyone who uses the Bib Call Number search? Are there any objections to removing Bib Call Number in future releases? Is there any interest in adding the Call Number (Shelf Browse) search to the Browse for: drop-down list on the Browse the Catalog screen? Thanks for your input! Don -- Don Butterworth Faculty Associate / Librarian III B.L. Fisher Library Asbury Theological Seminary don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu (859) 858-2227 -- Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services, York County Library System “You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit me.” ― C.S. Lewis http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Books on Reserve in Evergreen
We are doing what Jennifer describes. We have a circulation modifier of hourly reserves and daily reserves with circulation policies that correspond. We also created indexes for professor and course which pull from marc tags that are added to the bibliographic record. This allows us to have a search widget for reserves that we can feature on the web site. Beth Longwell Sage Library System blong...@eou.edu On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:36 AM, Walz, Jennifer jlw...@asbury.edu wrote: All – The other alternative is to do what we have done. Just change the item / copy record to have a circulation modifier for 1 hour, 2 hour etc and make the coordinating changes in your circulation policies table. We also changed each item to reside in a new location / collection called Reserves. I have not been able to find a way to “associate” the items with a course or a professor, but you can certainly make notes on the item to that effect if you want. We have never needed all that anyway. We just want to be sure that the items circulate with the correct time frames. So far we have it working to our satisfaction. One problem we have encountered is the due time will often run past our closing time. Does the system not automatically shorten the due time when it conflicts with the open hours of the OU?? I’d like to know how to make that work. And maybe flip the due date / time to the next day? Anyone have any other ideas / suggestions?? I’d be interested to know if there are other institutions actually having a reserve collection that are using Evergreen. Thanks! Jennifer -- Jennifer Walz, MLS - Head of Research Distance Services Kinlaw Library - *Asbury University* One Macklem Drive, Wilmore, KY 40390 859-858-3511 ext. 2269 jlw...@asbury.edu *From:* open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf Of *Dan Scott *Sent:* Tuesday, January 13, 2015 12:16 PM *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Books on Reserve in Evergreen On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Janice Huber janice.hu...@asburyseminary.edu wrote: Can anyone point me in the right direction to figure out how Evergreen handles books on Reserve? Meaning books placed on a reserve shelf for a professor, for a particular class, for that term to circulate for up to two hours at a time. Hi Janice: You might want to start with https://coffeecode.net/archives/250-Current-state-of-academic-reserves-support-for-Evergreen.html - although it's a post from 2011, it's still reasonably accurate I think. Dan
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] FW: Group and User permissions
All - See my previous message below that no one replied to. Any thoughts? I also have some follow up questions. For instance. When I assign a user to a staff account - does not matter what kind - it looks to me like several blanket types of permissions are automatically granted. Even if no group permission are assigned to that group, when I go to the user permission editor, there are several basic boxes checked. Such as create_user and update_user. However, when I assign a user to a Patron account, those permissions are NOT granted automatically. Why is this? What settings controls what default and blanket permissions are given to what types of users in the system? Second, I have no problem with the defaults being assigned, but I would like to know what they are for each group so I can understand what other permissions need to be added. What I really want is I would REALLY like to remove some of them from individuals assigned to that group. So, for instance, I have a staff user that is assigned to a staff category of volunteer. All good. But then maybe one or two of the users in that volunteer category really should NOT be able to create, view, or update any user accounts. When I go into the user permission editor for those users, I CANNOT REMOVE THAT PERMISSION! I am appalled. Why is this?I get that maybe it is a default setting for that group of users, but in each user editor, shouldn't I be able to remove it if I would like?But nothing I do will let me make this change. Is this a bug? Is this the way it is supposed to work? If not, how do I make it work the way I would like? Some assistance with group and user permissions would be very much appreciated. So far, it has befuddled me endlessly. -- Jennifer Walz, MLS - Head of ILS stuff Kinlaw Library - Asbury University One Macklem Drive, Wilmore, KY 40390 859-858-3511 ext. 2269 jlw...@asbury.edu From: Evergreen-admin [mailto:evergreen-admin-boun...@list.evergreen-ils.org] On Behalf Of Walz, Jennifer Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 4:56 PM To: evergreen-ad...@list.evergreen-ils.org Subject: [Evergreen-admin] Group and User permissions All - Ok. I'm new but I am seeing some weird things and I am not sure if this is how the system works, or if there is something I am missing. We are on 2.6.1 in case that matters. So, as I understand it, you can set group permissions and assign a bunch of people to that profile (group) and they all have certain rights to do certain things. I thought that maybe the user permissions were then available in case you might have one user or two in a group to ADD or DELETE certain permissions. Is that not the case? We might like to have maybe student workers all be circulators but one or two are given special permissions to work with cataloging or serials or such.Am I understanding this correctly?If we wanted to assign a circulator special elevated user permission for updating item records, I should be able to go into their patron record, open the user permission editor and assign them update_item_record (or some such). Right? Well, the problem is that we are trying to do something like that for several different pre-assigned groups and it is not working. For the volunteer group for instance. I have assigned several users in our system to that profile, but one or two need modifications. When I go to that patron record, into the user permission editor, everything is greyed out and it won't let me change anything. One or two permissions listed there I would like to remove (like Admin Toolbar! What? For volunteers?) or even change the level at which they have permission. Nope. No dice.And where is that admin toolbar thing set anyway?Who gave volunteers that permission? It is not listed in the group permissions editor.(they can also see and edit the Library Settings!) So, why can I change some user permissions for patrons (I am having no trouble with our catalogers), but others are all sort of fuzzed out and won't let me add or delete anything in the user permission editor. I can check a box and click save but nothing happens. Do I have to start all over and just create all new groups first?? (and I AM the admin and logged in as such when trying all of this) Thanks for any insights you have. Jennifer -- Jennifer Walz, MLS - Head ILS Monkey Kinlaw Library - Asbury University One Macklem Drive, Wilmore, KY 40390 859-858-3511 ext. 2269 jlw...@asbury.edumailto:jlw...@asbury.edu
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Ditch the Bib Call Number search?
Colleagues, In a recent Evergreen for Academics meeting a suggestion was made to eliminate the Bib Call Number search from the Search Input drop-down menu in Advanced Search. This should not be confused with the Call Number (Shelf Browse) found in the Numeric Search drop-down menu. Is there anyone who uses the Bib Call Number search? Are there any objections to removing Bib Call Number in future releases? Is there any interest in adding the Call Number (Shelf Browse) search to the Browse for: drop-down list on the Browse the Catalog screen? Thanks for your input! Don -- Don Butterworth Faculty Associate / Librarian III B.L. Fisher Library Asbury Theological Seminary don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu (859) 858-2227
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Ditch the Bib Call Number search?
Don et al – The only trouble I see is that it might give you a different kind of list as a result? I would much prefer the choice between a list and a “shelf view” perhaps - even though it is doing the same kind of search. The Shelf View annoys me because of the way it presents the data.It IS necessary to keep some kind of call number search though. As to the “bib call number” search – what is it actually searching? Is it only searching the 092 of the marc record? Or all of the call number fields in the marc? Is it trying to do a keyword exact match??In our case, I have not been able to achieve a successful search using that option. It always returns an error. So, either it is not configured for dewey or it is not searching the correct data, or I am doing something wrong. But I would be curious to know how it is SUPPOSED to work. Jennifer -- Jennifer Walz, MLS - Head of ILS stuff Kinlaw Library - Asbury University One Macklem Drive, Wilmore, KY 40390 859-858-3511 ext. 2269 jlw...@asbury.edu From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Donald Butterworth Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 2:00 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Ditch the Bib Call Number search? Colleagues, In a recent Evergreen for Academics meeting a suggestion was made to eliminate the Bib Call Number search from the Search Input drop-down menu in Advanced Search. This should not be confused with the Call Number (Shelf Browse) found in the Numeric Search drop-down menu. Is there anyone who uses the Bib Call Number search? Are there any objections to removing Bib Call Number in future releases? Is there any interest in adding the Call Number (Shelf Browse) search to the Browse for: drop-down list on the Browse the Catalog screen? Thanks for your input! Don -- Don Butterworth Faculty Associate / Librarian III B.L. Fisher Library Asbury Theological Seminary don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edumailto:don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu (859) 858-2227
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] ***SPAM*** Re: Motion to deactivate the evergreen-admin mailing list
+1, “Crush, kill, destroy” Sent from Windows Mail From: Chris Sharp Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 4:02 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Hi all, I administer or co-administer all of the open-ils/evergreen mailing lists, and I would like to make a motion that we deactivate the Evergreen-Admin mailing list. It is a very low-traffic list (maybe a dozen monthly posts at its busiest) with low membership (75 members), and most of the questions asked there would be appropriate for Open-ILS-General. The list became active in September 2012 in response to an IRC discussion (http://evergreen-ils.org/irc_logs/evergreen/2012-05/%23evergreen.18-Fri-2012.log) where the majority of attendees wanted a dedicated system administration mailing list. In my view, the Evergreen-Admin list duplicates the purpose of this, the General list, in that the General list serves as an all-purpose venue for (non-development related) technical help in running Evergreen. If you agree, please +1, otherwise, please state your case for keeping it. ;-) Thanks! Chris -- Chris Sharp PINES System Administrator Georgia Public Library Service 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 Atlanta, Georgia 30345 (404) 235-7147 csh...@georgialibraries.org http://pines.georgialibraries.org/
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Motion to deactivate the evergreen-admin mailing list
+1, deactivate. On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Chris Sharp csh...@georgialibraries.org wrote: Hi all, I administer or co-administer all of the open-ils/evergreen mailing lists, and I would like to make a motion that we deactivate the Evergreen-Admin mailing list. It is a very low-traffic list (maybe a dozen monthly posts at its busiest) with low membership (75 members), and most of the questions asked there would be appropriate for Open-ILS-General. The list became active in September 2012 in response to an IRC discussion (http://evergreen-ils.org/irc_logs/evergreen/2012-05/%23evergreen.18-Fri-2012.log) where the majority of attendees wanted a dedicated system administration mailing list. In my view, the Evergreen-Admin list duplicates the purpose of this, the General list, in that the General list serves as an all-purpose venue for (non-development related) technical help in running Evergreen. If you agree, please +1, otherwise, please state your case for keeping it. ;-) Thanks! Chris -- Chris Sharp PINES System Administrator Georgia Public Library Service 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 Atlanta, Georgia 30345 (404) 235-7147 csh...@georgialibraries.org http://pines.georgialibraries.org/ -- Benjamin Shum Evergreen Systems Manager Bibliomation, Inc. 24 Wooster Ave. Waterbury, CT 06708 203-577-4070, ext. 113
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] ***SPAM*** Re: Motion to deactivate the evergreen-admin mailing list
+1, deactivate On 1/13/15 3:02 PM, Chris Sharp wrote: Hi all, I administer or co-administer all of the open-ils/evergreen mailing lists, and I would like to make a motion that we deactivate the Evergreen-Admin mailing list. It is a very low-traffic list (maybe a dozen monthly posts at its busiest) with low membership (75 members), and most of the questions asked there would be appropriate for Open-ILS-General. The list became active in September 2012 in response to an IRC discussion (http://evergreen-ils.org/irc_logs/evergreen/2012-05/%23evergreen.18-Fri-2012.log) where the majority of attendees wanted a dedicated system administration mailing list. In my view, the Evergreen-Admin list duplicates the purpose of this, the General list, in that the General list serves as an all-purpose venue for (non-development related) technical help in running Evergreen. If you agree, please +1, otherwise, please state your case for keeping it. ;-) Thanks! Chris
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Ditch the Bib Call Number search?
In our system it appeared to search only the 099 field, which is “local” call number. We no longer use it. Janet Janet Schrader Bibliographic Services Supervisor C/W MARS, Inc. 67 Millbrook Street, Suite 201 Worcester, MA 01606 Tel: 508-755-3323 ext. 25 FaX: 508-757-7801 jschra...@cwmars.orgmailto:jschra...@cwmars.org From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Walz, Jennifer Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 2:15 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Ditch the Bib Call Number search? Don et al – The only trouble I see is that it might give you a different kind of list as a result? I would much prefer the choice between a list and a “shelf view” perhaps - even though it is doing the same kind of search. The Shelf View annoys me because of the way it presents the data.It IS necessary to keep some kind of call number search though. As to the “bib call number” search – what is it actually searching? Is it only searching the 092 of the marc record? Or all of the call number fields in the marc? Is it trying to do a keyword exact match??In our case, I have not been able to achieve a successful search using that option. It always returns an error. So, either it is not configured for dewey or it is not searching the correct data, or I am doing something wrong. But I would be curious to know how it is SUPPOSED to work. Jennifer -- Jennifer Walz, MLS - Head of ILS stuff Kinlaw Library - Asbury University One Macklem Drive, Wilmore, KY 40390 859-858-3511 ext. 2269 jlw...@asbury.edumailto:jlw...@asbury.edu From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.orgmailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Donald Butterworth Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 2:00 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Ditch the Bib Call Number search? Colleagues, In a recent Evergreen for Academics meeting a suggestion was made to eliminate the Bib Call Number search from the Search Input drop-down menu in Advanced Search. This should not be confused with the Call Number (Shelf Browse) found in the Numeric Search drop-down menu. Is there anyone who uses the Bib Call Number search? Are there any objections to removing Bib Call Number in future releases? Is there any interest in adding the Call Number (Shelf Browse) search to the Browse for: drop-down list on the Browse the Catalog screen? Thanks for your input! Don -- Don Butterworth Faculty Associate / Librarian III B.L. Fisher Library Asbury Theological Seminary don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edumailto:don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu (859) 858-2227
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Motion to deactivate the evergreen-admin mailing list
+1 to killing with fire On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Ben Shum bs...@biblio.org wrote: +1, deactivate. On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Chris Sharp csh...@georgialibraries.org wrote: Hi all, I administer or co-administer all of the open-ils/evergreen mailing lists, and I would like to make a motion that we deactivate the Evergreen-Admin mailing list. It is a very low-traffic list (maybe a dozen monthly posts at its busiest) with low membership (75 members), and most of the questions asked there would be appropriate for Open-ILS-General. The list became active in September 2012 in response to an IRC discussion ( http://evergreen-ils.org/irc_logs/evergreen/2012-05/%23evergreen.18-Fri-2012.log) where the majority of attendees wanted a dedicated system administration mailing list. In my view, the Evergreen-Admin list duplicates the purpose of this, the General list, in that the General list serves as an all-purpose venue for (non-development related) technical help in running Evergreen. If you agree, please +1, otherwise, please state your case for keeping it. ;-) Thanks! Chris -- Chris Sharp PINES System Administrator Georgia Public Library Service 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 Atlanta, Georgia 30345 (404) 235-7147 csh...@georgialibraries.org http://pines.georgialibraries.org/ -- Benjamin Shum Evergreen Systems Manager Bibliomation, Inc. 24 Wooster Ave. Waterbury, CT 06708 203-577-4070, ext. 113 -- Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services, York County Library System “You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit me.” ― C.S. Lewis http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] ***SPAM*** RE: Motion to deactivate the evergreen-admin mailing list
+1 from me Stuart Forrest PhD Library Systems Specialist Beaufort County Library 843 255 6450 sforr...@bcgov.net http://www.beaufortcountylibrary.org For Leisure, For Learning, For Life -Original Message- From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Chris Sharp Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 4:02 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Motion to deactivate the evergreen-admin mailing list Hi all, I administer or co-administer all of the open-ils/evergreen mailing lists, and I would like to make a motion that we deactivate the Evergreen-Admin mailing list. It is a very low-traffic list (maybe a dozen monthly posts at its busiest) with low membership (75 members), and most of the questions asked there would be appropriate for Open-ILS-General. The list became active in September 2012 in response to an IRC discussion (http://evergreen-ils.org/irc_logs/evergreen/2012-05/%23evergreen.18-Fri-2012.log) where the majority of attendees wanted a dedicated system administration mailing list. In my view, the Evergreen-Admin list duplicates the purpose of this, the General list, in that the General list serves as an all-purpose venue for (non-development related) technical help in running Evergreen. If you agree, please +1, otherwise, please state your case for keeping it. ;-) Thanks! Chris -- Chris Sharp PINES System Administrator Georgia Public Library Service 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 Atlanta, Georgia 30345 (404) 235-7147 csh...@georgialibraries.org http://pines.georgialibraries.org/
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] [Evergreen-admin] FW: Group and User permissions
Hi Jennifer, So, as I understand it, you can set group permissions and assign a bunch of people to that profile (group) and they all have certain rights to do certain things. Correct. I thought that maybe the user permissions were then available in case you might have one user or two in a group to ADD or DELETE certain permissions. Is that not the case? We might like to have maybe student workers all be “circulators” but one or two are given special permissions to work with cataloging or serials or such. Am I understanding this correctly? If we wanted to assign a “circulator” special elevated user permission for updating item records, I should be able to go into their patron record, open the user permission editor and assign them update_item_record (or some such). Right? Yes. But I'll caution you that you might want to go ahead and designate permission groups that you think you'll need later. For example, if you see that a group of circulators would always need the extra permissions, it makes more sense to just create a new permission profile and assign *that* to those users rather than assigning permissions singly, which is hard to track and inefficient. Well, the problem is that we are trying to do something like that for several different pre-assigned groups and it is not working. For the “volunteer” group for instance. I have assigned several users in our system to that profile, but one or two need modifications. When I go to that patron record, into the user permission editor, everything is greyed out and it won’t let me change anything. One or two permissions listed there I would like to remove (like Admin Toolbar! What? For volunteers?) or even change the level at which they have permission. Nope. No dice. You need to have the group application permission to be able to edit specific groups. To do this, go to Admin - Server Administration - Permission Groups, select the group you want, then make sure the Editing Permission is set. Note that you can create a new permission for this if you need to in Admin - Server Administration - Permissions (you'd need to reload the perm groups interface to see the change). Then just make sure the user who is doing the editing has been assigned the Editing Permission for that group. This is best done in the Permission Groups setup, for what it's worth. And where is that admin toolbar thing set anyway? Who gave volunteers that permission? It is not listed in the group permissions editor. (they can also see and edit the Library Settings!) adding in your second follow-up question here Second, I have no problem with the defaults being assigned, but I would like to know what they are for each group so I can understand what other permissions need to be added. What I really want is I would REALLY like to remove some of them from individuals assigned to that group. So, for instance, I have a staff user that is assigned to a staff category of “volunteer”. All good. But then maybe one or two of the users in that volunteer category really should NOT be able to create, view, or update any user accounts. When I go into the user permission editor for those users, I CANNOT REMOVE THAT PERMISSION! I am appalled. Why is this? I get that maybe it is a default setting for that group of users, but in each user editor, shouldn’t I be able to remove it if I would like? But nothing I do will let me make this change. Is this a bug? Is this the way it is supposed to work? If not, how do I make it work the way I would like? Permissions are inherited from higher up the tree, so that permission may be assigned at the Circulator or even the Staff or Users level. You can remove it from the higher level of the hierarchy and re-assign it to specific child groups (e.g. Circ 1, Circ 2 or whatever). That also means that permissions cannot be removed singly from the User Permission Editor. You'd need to remove the perm from the permission group, then assign the desired permission at the desired level to specific users who need it. One more thing to know is that if you do assign permissions to single users via the User Permission Editor, that setting will override anything set for that permission in the Permission Groups setup.\ So, why can I change some user permissions for patrons (I am having no trouble with our “catalogers”), but others are all sort of fuzzed out and won’t let me add or delete anything in the user permission editor. I can check a box and click save but nothing happens. Do I have to start all over and just create all new groups first?? (and I AM the admin and logged in as such when trying all of this) I would actually take that approach. I know it probably sounds like a burden to re-do everything, but you'd probably only ever have to do it once and then occasionally tweak them at need. Once the permission groups match your actual setup, you probably won't have to think about permissions
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Motion to deactivate the evergreen-admin mailing list
Hi all, I administer or co-administer all of the open-ils/evergreen mailing lists, and I would like to make a motion that we deactivate the Evergreen-Admin mailing list. It is a very low-traffic list (maybe a dozen monthly posts at its busiest) with low membership (75 members), and most of the questions asked there would be appropriate for Open-ILS-General. The list became active in September 2012 in response to an IRC discussion (http://evergreen-ils.org/irc_logs/evergreen/2012-05/%23evergreen.18-Fri-2012.log) where the majority of attendees wanted a dedicated system administration mailing list. In my view, the Evergreen-Admin list duplicates the purpose of this, the General list, in that the General list serves as an all-purpose venue for (non-development related) technical help in running Evergreen. If you agree, please +1, otherwise, please state your case for keeping it. ;-) Thanks! Chris -- Chris Sharp PINES System Administrator Georgia Public Library Service 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 Atlanta, Georgia 30345 (404) 235-7147 csh...@georgialibraries.org http://pines.georgialibraries.org/
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] ***SPAM*** Re: Motion to deactivate the evergreen-admin mailing list
+1 deactivate Kathy On 01/13/2015 04:04 PM, Justin Hopkins wrote: +1, deactivate On 1/13/15 3:02 PM, Chris Sharp wrote: Hi all, I administer or co-administer all of the open-ils/evergreen mailing lists, and I would like to make a motion that we deactivate the Evergreen-Admin mailing list. It is a very low-traffic list (maybe a dozen monthly posts at its busiest) with low membership (75 members), and most of the questions asked there would be appropriate for Open-ILS-General. The list became active in September 2012 in response to an IRC discussion (http://evergreen-ils.org/irc_logs/evergreen/2012-05/%23evergreen.18-Fri-2012.log) where the majority of attendees wanted a dedicated system administration mailing list. In my view, the Evergreen-Admin list duplicates the purpose of this, the General list, in that the General list serves as an all-purpose venue for (non-development related) technical help in running Evergreen. If you agree, please +1, otherwise, please state your case for keeping it. ;-) Thanks! Chris -- Kathy Lussier Project Coordinator Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative (508) 343-0128 kluss...@masslnc.org Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] ***SPAM*** RE: Motion to deactivate the evergreen-admin mailing list
+1 Lynn Floyd lfl...@andersonlibrary.org Anderson County Library 864-260-4500 x181 http://www.andersonlibrary.org -Original Message- From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Chris Sharp Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 4:02 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Motion to deactivate the evergreen-admin mailing list Hi all, I administer or co-administer all of the open-ils/evergreen mailing lists, and I would like to make a motion that we deactivate the Evergreen-Admin mailing list. It is a very low-traffic list (maybe a dozen monthly posts at its busiest) with low membership (75 members), and most of the questions asked there would be appropriate for Open-ILS-General. The list became active in September 2012 in response to an IRC discussion (http://evergreen-ils.org/irc_logs/evergreen/2012-05/%23evergreen.18-Fri-2012.log) where the majority of attendees wanted a dedicated system administration mailing list. In my view, the Evergreen-Admin list duplicates the purpose of this, the General list, in that the General list serves as an all-purpose venue for (non-development related) technical help in running Evergreen. If you agree, please +1, otherwise, please state your case for keeping it. ;-) Thanks! Chris -- Chris Sharp PINES System Administrator Georgia Public Library Service 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 Atlanta, Georgia 30345 (404) 235-7147 csh...@georgialibraries.org http://pines.georgialibraries.org/
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] ***SPAM*** EG 2015 conference registration available
Hi Buzzy, A few logistical questions. I'm assuming that PDX is the closes airport to fly in, correct? As that is a fair distance from Hood River I'm assuming that the hotel doesn't operate a shuttle there (also none listed on their web site that I could find). What are our best options for ground travel? On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Buzzy Nielsen bu...@hoodriverlibrary.org wrote: I'm very pleased to say that registration is open for the 2015 Evergreen International Conference, to be held on May 13-16 in Hood River, Oregon, USA. https://www.eventbrite.com/e/evergreen-2015-international-conference-tickets-15029293020 The conference venue is the Best Western Plus Hood River Inn ( http://www.hoodriverinn.com). Booking information is available here, as well as suggestions for other lodging: http://evergreen-ils.org/conference/eg15/venue/ More information can be found on the conference website. Pages will be updated as information comes available. http://evergreen-ils.org/conference/eg15/ Stay tuned for information about submitting proposals, sponsoring the conference, and exhibiting at the conference. Please let me know if you guys have any questions. We're looking forward to seeing you all in Hood River this spring! Cheers! Buzzy Nielsen Library Director Hood River County Library District 502 State Street Hood River, Oregon 97031 541-387-7062 http://hoodriverlibrary.org -- Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services, York County Library System “You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit me.” ― C.S. Lewis http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] ***SPAM*** EG 2015 conference registration available
Good question, Rogan. We are working on getting shuttles going to and from the airport on Tuesday and Saturday. I'm discussing that with shuttle companies now. Stay tuned! Cheers! Buzzy Library Director Hood River County Library District 502 State Street Hood River, Oregon 97031 541-387-7062 http://hoodriverlibrary.org On 01/13/2015 01:37 PM, Rogan Hamby wrote: Hi Buzzy, A few logistical questions. I'm assuming that PDX is the closes airport to fly in, correct? As that is a fair distance from Hood River I'm assuming that the hotel doesn't operate a shuttle there (also none listed on their web site that I could find). What are our best options for ground travel?
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] ***SPAM*** EG 2015 conference registration available
Thanks, Buzzy! As an Alaskan, it’s standard to book flights 6+ months in advance. Right now, trying to work around the Amtrak schedule is….. limiting, and would require extended airport layovers on either end. Looking forward to what you’re coming up with! If you need opinions from the lone Alaskan, let me know! There are only a few flights between ANC-PDX. ☺ -Holly From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Buzzy Nielsen Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 2:29 PM To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] ***SPAM*** EG 2015 conference registration available Good question, Rogan. We are working on getting shuttles going to and from the airport on Tuesday and Saturday. I'm discussing that with shuttle companies now. Stay tuned! Cheers! Buzzy Library Director Hood River County Library District 502 State Street Hood River, Oregon 97031 541-387-7062 http://hoodriverlibrary.org On 01/13/2015 01:37 PM, Rogan Hamby wrote: Hi Buzzy, A few logistical questions. I'm assuming that PDX is the closes airport to fly in, correct? As that is a fair distance from Hood River I'm assuming that the hotel doesn't operate a shuttle there (also none listed on their web site that I could find). What are our best options for ground travel?
