[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen 3.5 Beta1 released

[Bill Erickson]

Hi All,

I'm proud to announce the first Beta release of Evergreen 3.5.  Files,
changelogs, and release notes are available on the Evergreen downloads page:

https://evergreen-ils.org/egdownloads/

Some feature highlights for the release:

* PostgreSQL 10 support
* New Action/Trigger reactor for patron self-registration events.
* Ability to update notification preferences for existing holds
* SIP2 options to improve Hoopla integration
* Various additions to the experimental Angular staff catalog.
** New MARC Edit interface
** Patron View tab in the record detail page
** New Call Number Browse, including record-specific entry point.
** Patron Search option during holds placement
** Search Results Highlighting
** Catalog Preferences Page

Over the next few weeks we'll be testing the Beta release, including a Bug
Squashing Week starting the 16th, in preparation for the general release.

Special thanks to my co-RM Chris Sharp, Dan Wells for the release assist,
Terran McCanna for leading our feedback fest, and everyone who
contributed to this release!

-b

[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Conference: Local Information

[Terran McCanna]

We are greatly looking forward to the upcoming Evergreen Conference in
Atlanta in April and hope that you will be able to attend!

We have added local travel, outdoor activity, entertainment, and dining
options to the conference site here:
https://evergreen-ils.org/conference/2020-evergreen-international-conference/local/

And sign-up sheets for the Friday night Dine-Arounds are available here:
https://evergreen-ils.org/conference/2020-evergreen-international-conference/social/

We have just picked a few locations to start, but we will add more
locations if enough people are interested in going out as a group. There
are a number of restaurants close to the hotel that the complimentary hotel
shuttle can take groups to, and there are hundreds of other restaurants of
all types within access by rideshare services, MARTA (the train), or by
carpooling.  If you'd like to volunteer to be the group leader for a
Dine-Around, feel free to add your name to a current group that doesn't
have one, or feel free to create a new tab for the restaurant of your
choice. Feel free to contact me off-list if you have any questions!

Terran / The Evergreen Conference Committee


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Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds / Circulation question

[Jason Boyer]

Just to over-specify a little bit, here’s some db field names and what they’re 
called in the client and why that can be confusing:

asset.call_number.owning_lib - Owning Library. The branch that purchased the 
item (usually). This one is set at cataloging time and doesn’t change unless 
done manually.

asset.copy.circ_lib - Circulating Library. The library where the item is 
normally kept. This is frequently the same as the call number owning library, 
but if you have Floating enabled it may change to the checkin library when it’s 
circulated.

action.circulation.circ_lib - Checkout / Renewal Library. Used to also be 
called Circulating Library! Reusing that name has caused some confusion with 
reporting in the past. This is the library that checked out the item to a user, 
regardless of the value of the item’s circ_lib field. This is the one you want 
to filter on for circ reports to determine what items passed over your desk(s) 
regardless of where they may have came from. 

So, to get back to Stuart’s original question, the Checkout / Renewal Library 
from the Circulation source is probably what you want if you want to count 
circs at your location(s) regardless of where the item came from. More 
filtering can be done on the item Circulating Library field for things like how 
many of your own items circ to your users vs items from elsewhere, and how many 
of your items circ elsewhere in a consortium, etc.

Jason

-- 
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Senior System Administrator
Equinox Open Library Initiative
phone:  +1 (877) Open-ILS (673-6457)
email:  jbo...@equinoxinitiative.org
web:  https://EquinoxInitiative.org/

> On Mar 4, 2020, at 10:10 AM, Kate Coleman  wrote:
> 
> Ruth, I didn't even think of that! Thanks! Going back and looking at those 
> libraries that do that, they do in fact have it defaulted to whatever they 
> put in the Owning Library field. 
> 
> 
> Kate Coleman
> Jefferson County Library - Central Services
> Technical Services Specialist
> 5678 State Rd. PP
> High Ridge, MO 63049
> 636-677-8689
> Fax: 636--677-1769
> kcole...@jeffcolib.org 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 9:07 AM Frasur, Ruth  > wrote:
> Attributes that aren’t set in templates or edited use defaults set up in 
> library settings and other places.
> 
>  
> 
> Ruth Frasur
> 
> Evergreen Development and Support Administrator
> 
> Indiana State Library
> 
> 140 N. Senate Ave.
> 
> Indianapolis, IN 46204
> 
> (317) 460-7556
> 
>  
> 
> From: Open-ils-general 
> [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org 
> ] On Behalf Of 
> Kate Coleman
> Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 10:04 AM
> To: Evergreen Discussion Group  >
> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds / Circulation question
> 
>  
> 
>  This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments or 
> click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. 
> 
> Rogan and all,
> 
>  
> 
> The screenshot below is what I mean. We have libraries in our consortium that 
> do this at this time and I'm wondering if it will cause issues. It certainly 
> seems like it would cause statistical issues, but maybe some others as well?
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> Kate Coleman
> Jefferson County Library - Central Services
> Technical Services Specialist
> 5678 State Rd. PP
> High Ridge, MO 63049
> 636-677-8689
> Fax: 636--677-1769
> kcole...@jeffcolib.org 
> 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 8:55 AM Rogan Hamby  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Kate,
> 
>  
> 
> If I'm undestanding your question correctly it's not possible.  The 
> circulating library is an item attribute and requires an org unit id or it 
> can't save the entry in the database.  The owning library as others have 
> noted is a volume / call number attribute and has the same restriciton to not 
> allow null values.  
> 
>  
>  
> 
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 9:46 AM Kate Coleman  > wrote:
> 
> Speaking of brains unwilling to compute...
> 
>  
> 
> If a multi-branch system (which additionally belongs to a large consortium) 
> chooses to only use the owning library section for their items and leave the 
> circulating library blank, are their negative repercussions for that?
> 
> 
> 
> Kate Coleman
> Jefferson County Library - Central Services
> Technical Services Specialist
> 5678 State Rd. PP
> High Ridge, MO 63049
> 636-677-8689
> Fax: 636--677-1769
> kcole...@jeffcolib.org 
> 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 8:18 AM Frasur, Ruth  > wrote:
> 
> Stuart,
> 
>  
> 
> The “circulation library” is the library that owns the material.  This 
> doesn’t change (unless someone cedes ownership).  The “checkout/renew 
> library” is the library that is circulating that item at any given 

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds / Circulation question

[Frasur, Ruth]

Stuart,

For reporting, it might not always be as cut and dry as all that.  Depending on 
what source you’re using, the label might be different.  And it might be used 
in different places and mean different things there.  It would be good to set 
up a test where you already know the answer to make sure you’ve picked the 
right filters for your report.

Ruth Frasur
Evergreen Development and Support Administrator
Indiana State Library
140 N. Senate Ave.
Indianapolis, IN 46204
(317) 460-7556

From: Open-ils-general 
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of 
Forrest, Stuart
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 10:15 AM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group 
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds / Circulation question

 This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments or 
click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. 

Thanks, Rogan,

Starting to get clearer.

The main reason for the questions was reporting. If a hold is transitted to 
another library and a circ report is run. If I filter by Circulation Library of 
the receiving branch, who gets the circ count or would I be better off using 
Checkout Library in the report?

Sorry, my brain is fuddled today.

Thanks
Stuart

--
Stuart Forrest, Library IT Manager/Analyst Beaufort County Library System
311 Scott Street, Beaufort, SC 29902
843 255 6450
sforr...@bcgov.net
beaufortcountylibrary.org

From: Open-ils-general 
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 On Behalf Of Rogan Hamby
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 10:03 AM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group 
mailto:open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>>
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds / Circulation question

[EXTERNAL EMAIL] Please report any suspicious attachments, links, or requests 
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Hi Stuart,

To echo Anna, the owning library is an attibute of the volume / call number 
while the circulating library of the item is going to be the branch the item 
actually lives at.  If you use floating collections this can change without 
staff intervention but otherwise someone would have to change the circulating 
library.  This distinction between circulating and owning library is often 
confusing as the owning library trait doesn't have a lot of obvious impact for 
end users so it seems redundant and confusing.  It's not actually redundant but 
that's a whole other story, it certainly is confusing to many as you're finding 
it.

The neither has nothing to do with the bib other than the volume connects to it 
but it in part has an owning library so that owning attributes don't have to be 
associated with the bib in a consortium where bibs are shared.






On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 9:29 AM Goben, Anna 
mailto:ago...@library.in.gov>> wrote:
The Owning Library owns the call number.

-Anna

Anna Goben
Evergreen Indiana Coordinator
Indiana State Library
140 N Senate Ave
Indianapolis, IN 46204
317-234-6624
Fax: 317-232-1925

From: Open-ils-general 
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org]
 On Behalf Of Forrest, Stuart
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 9:25 AM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group 
mailto:open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>>
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds / Circulation question

 This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments or 
click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. 

So I am presuming then that the Owning library is the one that owns the bib 
record, for the sake of a better term and the circulating library is the one 
that owns the copy. The checkout library is the one that circulates the copy?

Our owning library is set to BCL and the circulating libraries are set to the 
individual branches, BCL-BEA, BCL-BLU, etc…

Stuart

--
Stuart Forrest, Library IT Manager/Analyst Beaufort County Library System
311 Scott Street, Beaufort, SC 29902
843 255 6450
sforr...@bcgov.net
beaufortcountylibrary.org

From: Open-ils-general 
mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org>>
 On Behalf Of Goben, Anna
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 9:15 AM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group 
mailto:open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>>
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds / Circulation question

[EXTERNAL EMAIL] Please report any suspicious attachments, links, or requests 
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Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds / Circulation question

[Forrest, Stuart]

Thanks, Rogan,

Starting to get clearer.

The main reason for the questions was reporting. If a hold is transitted to 
another library and a circ report is run. If I filter by Circulation Library of 
the receiving branch, who gets the circ count or would I be better off using 
Checkout Library in the report?

Sorry, my brain is fuddled today.

Thanks
Stuart

--
Stuart Forrest, Library IT Manager/Analyst Beaufort County Library System
311 Scott Street, Beaufort, SC 29902
843 255 6450
sforr...@bcgov.net
beaufortcountylibrary.org

From: Open-ils-general  On 
Behalf Of Rogan Hamby
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 10:03 AM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group 
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds / Circulation question

[EXTERNAL EMAIL] Please report any suspicious attachments, links, or requests 
for sensitive information to the Beaufort County IT Division at 
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Hi Stuart,

To echo Anna, the owning library is an attibute of the volume / call number 
while the circulating library of the item is going to be the branch the item 
actually lives at.  If you use floating collections this can change without 
staff intervention but otherwise someone would have to change the circulating 
library.  This distinction between circulating and owning library is often 
confusing as the owning library trait doesn't have a lot of obvious impact for 
end users so it seems redundant and confusing.  It's not actually redundant but 
that's a whole other story, it certainly is confusing to many as you're finding 
it.

The neither has nothing to do with the bib other than the volume connects to it 
but it in part has an owning library so that owning attributes don't have to be 
associated with the bib in a consortium where bibs are shared.






On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 9:29 AM Goben, Anna 
mailto:ago...@library.in.gov>> wrote:
The Owning Library owns the call number.

-Anna

Anna Goben
Evergreen Indiana Coordinator
Indiana State Library
140 N Senate Ave
Indianapolis, IN 46204
317-234-6624
Fax: 317-232-1925

From: Open-ils-general 
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org]
 On Behalf Of Forrest, Stuart
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 9:25 AM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group 
mailto:open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>>
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds / Circulation question

 This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments or 
click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. 

So I am presuming then that the Owning library is the one that owns the bib 
record, for the sake of a better term and the circulating library is the one 
that owns the copy. The checkout library is the one that circulates the copy?

Our owning library is set to BCL and the circulating libraries are set to the 
individual branches, BCL-BEA, BCL-BLU, etc…

Stuart

--
Stuart Forrest, Library IT Manager/Analyst Beaufort County Library System
311 Scott Street, Beaufort, SC 29902
843 255 6450
sforr...@bcgov.net
beaufortcountylibrary.org

From: Open-ils-general 
mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org>>
 On Behalf Of Goben, Anna
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 9:15 AM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group 
mailto:open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>>
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds / Circulation question

[EXTERNAL EMAIL] Please report any suspicious attachments, links, or requests 
for sensitive information to the Beaufort County IT Division at 
helpd...@bcgov.net or to 843-255-7000.
We use Checkout Library for reporting outputs as that’s captured with the circ 
data.  Circulating Library is an item attribute and does not change without 
cataloger intervention.

-Anna

Anna Goben
Evergreen Indiana Coordinator
Indiana State Library
140 N Senate Ave
Indianapolis, IN 46204
317-234-6624
Fax: 317-232-1925

From: Open-ils-general 
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of 
Forrest, Stuart
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 9:04 AM
To: Group, Evergreen 
mailto:open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>>
Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds / Circulation question

 This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments or 
click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. 

Hi

This may sound a simple question to some, but my brain seems unwilling to 
compute!

So if a book that has been placed on hold that has a Circulating Library of 

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds / Circulation question

[Kate Coleman]

Ruth, I didn't even think of that! Thanks! Going back and looking at those
libraries that do that, they do in fact have it defaulted to whatever they
put in the Owning Library field.


Kate Coleman
Jefferson County Library - Central Services
Technical Services Specialist
5678 State Rd. PP
High Ridge, MO 63049
636-677-8689
Fax: 636--677-1769
kcole...@jeffcolib.org




On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 9:07 AM Frasur, Ruth  wrote:

> Attributes that aren’t set in templates or edited use defaults set up in
> library settings and other places.
>
>
>
> Ruth Frasur
>
> *Evergreen Development and Support Administrator*
>
> Indiana State Library
>
> 140 N. Senate Ave.
>
> Indianapolis, IN 46204
>
> (317) 460-7556
>
>
>
> *From:* Open-ils-general [mailto:
> open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf Of *Kate
> Coleman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 4, 2020 10:04 AM
> *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group <
> open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds / Circulation question
>
>
>
>  This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments
> or click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. 
> --
>
> Rogan and all,
>
>
>
> The screenshot below is what I mean. We have libraries in our consortium
> that do this at this time and I'm wondering if it will cause issues. It
> certainly seems like it would cause statistical issues, but maybe some
> others as well?
>
>
>
> [image: OWNING VS CIRC LIB.png]
>
>
>
>
>
> Kate Coleman
> Jefferson County Library - Central Services
> Technical Services Specialist
> 5678 State Rd. PP
> High Ridge, MO 63049
> 636-677-8689
> Fax: 636--677-1769
> kcole...@jeffcolib.org
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 8:55 AM Rogan Hamby 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Kate,
>
>
>
> If I'm undestanding your question correctly it's not possible.  The
> circulating library is an item attribute and requires an org unit id or it
> can't save the entry in the database.  The owning library as others have
> noted is a volume / call number attribute and has the same restriciton to
> not allow null values.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 9:46 AM Kate Coleman 
> wrote:
>
> Speaking of brains unwilling to compute...
>
>
>
> If a multi-branch system (which additionally belongs to a large
> consortium) chooses to only use the owning library section for their items
> and leave the circulating library blank, are their negative repercussions
> for that?
>
>
>
> Kate Coleman
> Jefferson County Library - Central Services
> Technical Services Specialist
> 5678 State Rd. PP
> High Ridge, MO 63049
> 636-677-8689
> Fax: 636--677-1769
> kcole...@jeffcolib.org
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 8:18 AM Frasur, Ruth 
> wrote:
>
> Stuart,
>
>
>
> The “circulation library” is the library that owns the material.  This
> doesn’t change (unless someone cedes ownership).  The “checkout/renew
> library” is the library that is circulating that item at any given moment.
> The labeling for libraries is confusing.
>
>
>
> Ruth Frasur
>
> *Evergreen Development and Support Administrator*
>
> Indiana State Library
>
> 140 N. Senate Ave.
>
> Indianapolis, IN 46204
>
> (317) 460-7556
>
>
>
> *From:* Open-ils-general [mailto:
> open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf Of *Forrest,
> Stuart
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 4, 2020 9:04 AM
> *To:* Group, Evergreen 
> *Subject:* [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds / Circulation question
>
>
>
>  This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments
> or click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. 
> --
>
> Hi
>
>
>
> This may sound a simple question to some, but my brain seems unwilling to
> compute!
>
>
>
> So if a book that has been placed on hold that has a Circulating Library
> of ‘LibraryA’ is then transitted to ‘LibraryB’ where the hold is being
> fulfilled. Does the circulating library temporarily change to ‘LibraryB’ so
> that library gets the circulation? I’m thinking of circ reports now. Or
> would it be better to use Checkout Library instead to capture all
> circulations at ‘LibraryB’
>
>
>
> Hopes this makes sense to someone as I am not quite understanding it.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Much
>
> Stuart
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Stuart Forrest, Library IT Manager/Analyst Beaufort County Library System
>
> 311 Scott Street, Beaufort, SC 29902
>
> 843 255 6450
>
> sforr...@bcgov.net
>
> beaufortcountylibrary.org
>
>
>
>

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds / Circulation question

[Frasur, Ruth]

Attributes that aren’t set in templates or edited use defaults set up in 
library settings and other places.

Ruth Frasur
Evergreen Development and Support Administrator
Indiana State Library
140 N. Senate Ave.
Indianapolis, IN 46204
(317) 460-7556

From: Open-ils-general 
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Kate 
Coleman
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 10:04 AM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group 
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds / Circulation question

 This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments or 
click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. 

Rogan and all,

The screenshot below is what I mean. We have libraries in our consortium that 
do this at this time and I'm wondering if it will cause issues. It certainly 
seems like it would cause statistical issues, but maybe some others as well?

[OWNING VS CIRC LIB.png]



Kate Coleman
Jefferson County Library - Central Services
Technical Services Specialist
5678 State Rd. PP
High Ridge, MO 63049
636-677-8689
Fax: 636--677-1769
kcole...@jeffcolib.org

[https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download=0B9TS4tJXQ3d3UkpzRGVsWm5rZTQ=0B9TS4tJXQ3d3V2RnZFBpZUZyTHQyblpZdGM3bjlrdTVSdVhRPQ]


On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 8:55 AM Rogan Hamby 
mailto:rha...@equinoxinitiative.org>> wrote:
Hi Kate,

If I'm undestanding your question correctly it's not possible.  The circulating 
library is an item attribute and requires an org unit id or it can't save the 
entry in the database.  The owning library as others have noted is a volume / 
call number attribute and has the same restriciton to not allow null values.



On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 9:46 AM Kate Coleman 
mailto:kcole...@jeffcolib.org>> wrote:
Speaking of brains unwilling to compute...

If a multi-branch system (which additionally belongs to a large consortium) 
chooses to only use the owning library section for their items and leave the 
circulating library blank, are their negative repercussions for that?


Kate Coleman
Jefferson County Library - Central Services
Technical Services Specialist
5678 State Rd. PP
High Ridge, MO 63049
636-677-8689
Fax: 636--677-1769
kcole...@jeffcolib.org

[https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download=0B9TS4tJXQ3d3UkpzRGVsWm5rZTQ=0B9TS4tJXQ3d3V2RnZFBpZUZyTHQyblpZdGM3bjlrdTVSdVhRPQ]


On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 8:18 AM Frasur, Ruth 
mailto:rfra...@library.in.gov>> wrote:
Stuart,

The “circulation library” is the library that owns the material.  This doesn’t 
change (unless someone cedes ownership).  The “checkout/renew library” is the 
library that is circulating that item at any given moment.  The labeling for 
libraries is confusing.

Ruth Frasur
Evergreen Development and Support Administrator
Indiana State Library
140 N. Senate Ave.
Indianapolis, IN 46204
(317) 460-7556

From: Open-ils-general 
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org]
 On Behalf Of Forrest, Stuart
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 9:04 AM
To: Group, Evergreen 
mailto:open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>>
Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds / Circulation question

 This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments or 
click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. 

Hi

This may sound a simple question to some, but my brain seems unwilling to 
compute!

So if a book that has been placed on hold that has a Circulating Library of 
‘LibraryA’ is then transitted to ‘LibraryB’ where the hold is being fulfilled. 
Does the circulating library temporarily change to ‘LibraryB’ so that library 
gets the circulation? I’m thinking of circ reports now. Or would it be better 
to use Checkout Library instead to capture all circulations at ‘LibraryB’

Hopes this makes sense to someone as I am not quite understanding it.

Thanks
Much
Stuart

--
Stuart Forrest, Library IT Manager/Analyst Beaufort County Library System
311 Scott Street, Beaufort, SC 29902
843 255 6450
sforr...@bcgov.net
beaufortcountylibrary.org

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds / Circulation question

[Rogan Hamby]

Hi Kate,

If I'm undestanding your question correctly it's not possible.  The
circulating library is an item attribute and requires an org unit id or it
can't save the entry in the database.  The owning library as others have
noted is a volume / call number attribute and has the same restriciton to
not allow null values.



On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 9:46 AM Kate Coleman  wrote:

> Speaking of brains unwilling to compute...
>
> If a multi-branch system (which additionally belongs to a large
> consortium) chooses to only use the owning library section for their items
> and leave the circulating library blank, are their negative repercussions
> for that?
>
>
> Kate Coleman
> Jefferson County Library - Central Services
> Technical Services Specialist
> 5678 State Rd. PP
> High Ridge, MO 63049
> 636-677-8689
> Fax: 636--677-1769
> kcole...@jeffcolib.org
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 8:18 AM Frasur, Ruth 
> wrote:
>
>> Stuart,
>>
>>
>>
>> The “circulation library” is the library that owns the material.  This
>> doesn’t change (unless someone cedes ownership).  The “checkout/renew
>> library” is the library that is circulating that item at any given moment.
>> The labeling for libraries is confusing.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ruth Frasur
>>
>> *Evergreen Development and Support Administrator*
>>
>> Indiana State Library
>>
>> 140 N. Senate Ave.
>>
>> Indianapolis, IN 46204
>>
>> (317) 460-7556
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Open-ils-general [mailto:
>> open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf Of *Forrest,
>> Stuart
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 4, 2020 9:04 AM
>> *To:* Group, Evergreen 
>> *Subject:* [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds / Circulation question
>>
>>
>>
>>  This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments
>> or click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. 
>> --
>>
>> Hi
>>
>>
>>
>> This may sound a simple question to some, but my brain seems unwilling to
>> compute!
>>
>>
>>
>> So if a book that has been placed on hold that has a Circulating Library
>> of ‘LibraryA’ is then transitted to ‘LibraryB’ where the hold is being
>> fulfilled. Does the circulating library temporarily change to ‘LibraryB’ so
>> that library gets the circulation? I’m thinking of circ reports now. Or
>> would it be better to use Checkout Library instead to capture all
>> circulations at ‘LibraryB’
>>
>>
>>
>> Hopes this makes sense to someone as I am not quite understanding it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Much
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Stuart Forrest, Library IT Manager/Analyst Beaufort County Library System
>>
>> 311 Scott Street, Beaufort, SC 29902
>>
>> 843 255 6450
>>
>> sforr...@bcgov.net
>>
>> beaufortcountylibrary.org
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds / Circulation question

[Kate Coleman]

Speaking of brains unwilling to compute...

If a multi-branch system (which additionally belongs to a large consortium)
chooses to only use the owning library section for their items and leave
the circulating library blank, are their negative repercussions for that?


Kate Coleman
Jefferson County Library - Central Services
Technical Services Specialist
5678 State Rd. PP
High Ridge, MO 63049
636-677-8689
Fax: 636--677-1769
kcole...@jeffcolib.org




On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 8:18 AM Frasur, Ruth  wrote:

> Stuart,
>
>
>
> The “circulation library” is the library that owns the material.  This
> doesn’t change (unless someone cedes ownership).  The “checkout/renew
> library” is the library that is circulating that item at any given moment.
> The labeling for libraries is confusing.
>
>
>
> Ruth Frasur
>
> *Evergreen Development and Support Administrator*
>
> Indiana State Library
>
> 140 N. Senate Ave.
>
> Indianapolis, IN 46204
>
> (317) 460-7556
>
>
>
> *From:* Open-ils-general [mailto:
> open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf Of *Forrest,
> Stuart
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 4, 2020 9:04 AM
> *To:* Group, Evergreen 
> *Subject:* [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds / Circulation question
>
>
>
>  This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments
> or click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. 
> --
>
> Hi
>
>
>
> This may sound a simple question to some, but my brain seems unwilling to
> compute!
>
>
>
> So if a book that has been placed on hold that has a Circulating Library
> of ‘LibraryA’ is then transitted to ‘LibraryB’ where the hold is being
> fulfilled. Does the circulating library temporarily change to ‘LibraryB’ so
> that library gets the circulation? I’m thinking of circ reports now. Or
> would it be better to use Checkout Library instead to capture all
> circulations at ‘LibraryB’
>
>
>
> Hopes this makes sense to someone as I am not quite understanding it.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Much
>
> Stuart
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Stuart Forrest, Library IT Manager/Analyst Beaufort County Library System
>
> 311 Scott Street, Beaufort, SC 29902
>
> 843 255 6450
>
> sforr...@bcgov.net
>
> beaufortcountylibrary.org
>
>
>

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds / Circulation question

[Goben, Anna]

The Owning Library owns the call number.

-Anna

Anna Goben
Evergreen Indiana Coordinator
Indiana State Library
140 N Senate Ave
Indianapolis, IN 46204
317-234-6624
Fax: 317-232-1925

From: Open-ils-general 
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of 
Forrest, Stuart
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 9:25 AM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group 
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds / Circulation question

 This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments or 
click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. 

So I am presuming then that the Owning library is the one that owns the bib 
record, for the sake of a better term and the circulating library is the one 
that owns the copy. The checkout library is the one that circulates the copy?

Our owning library is set to BCL and the circulating libraries are set to the 
individual branches, BCL-BEA, BCL-BLU, etc...

Stuart

--
Stuart Forrest, Library IT Manager/Analyst Beaufort County Library System
311 Scott Street, Beaufort, SC 29902
843 255 6450
sforr...@bcgov.net
beaufortcountylibrary.org

From: Open-ils-general 
mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org>>
 On Behalf Of Goben, Anna
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 9:15 AM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group 
mailto:open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>>
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds / Circulation question

[EXTERNAL EMAIL] Please report any suspicious attachments, links, or requests 
for sensitive information to the Beaufort County IT Division at 
helpd...@bcgov.net or to 843-255-7000.
We use Checkout Library for reporting outputs as that's captured with the circ 
data.  Circulating Library is an item attribute and does not change without 
cataloger intervention.

-Anna

Anna Goben
Evergreen Indiana Coordinator
Indiana State Library
140 N Senate Ave
Indianapolis, IN 46204
317-234-6624
Fax: 317-232-1925

From: Open-ils-general 
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of 
Forrest, Stuart
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 9:04 AM
To: Group, Evergreen 
mailto:open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>>
Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds / Circulation question

 This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments or 
click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. 

Hi

This may sound a simple question to some, but my brain seems unwilling to 
compute!

So if a book that has been placed on hold that has a Circulating Library of 
'LibraryA' is then transitted to 'LibraryB' where the hold is being fulfilled. 
Does the circulating library temporarily change to 'LibraryB' so that library 
gets the circulation? I'm thinking of circ reports now. Or would it be better 
to use Checkout Library instead to capture all circulations at 'LibraryB'

Hopes this makes sense to someone as I am not quite understanding it.

Thanks
Much
Stuart

--
Stuart Forrest, Library IT Manager/Analyst Beaufort County Library System
311 Scott Street, Beaufort, SC 29902
843 255 6450
sforr...@bcgov.net
beaufortcountylibrary.org

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds / Circulation question

[Forrest, Stuart]

So I am presuming then that the Owning library is the one that owns the bib 
record, for the sake of a better term and the circulating library is the one 
that owns the copy. The checkout library is the one that circulates the copy?

Our owning library is set to BCL and the circulating libraries are set to the 
individual branches, BCL-BEA, BCL-BLU, etc...

Stuart

--
Stuart Forrest, Library IT Manager/Analyst Beaufort County Library System
311 Scott Street, Beaufort, SC 29902
843 255 6450
sforr...@bcgov.net
beaufortcountylibrary.org

From: Open-ils-general  On 
Behalf Of Goben, Anna
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 9:15 AM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group 
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds / Circulation question

[EXTERNAL EMAIL] Please report any suspicious attachments, links, or requests 
for sensitive information to the Beaufort County IT Division at 
helpd...@bcgov.net or to 843-255-7000.
We use Checkout Library for reporting outputs as that's captured with the circ 
data.  Circulating Library is an item attribute and does not change without 
cataloger intervention.

-Anna

Anna Goben
Evergreen Indiana Coordinator
Indiana State Library
140 N Senate Ave
Indianapolis, IN 46204
317-234-6624
Fax: 317-232-1925

From: Open-ils-general 
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of 
Forrest, Stuart
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 9:04 AM
To: Group, Evergreen 
mailto:open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>>
Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds / Circulation question

 This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments or 
click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. 

Hi

This may sound a simple question to some, but my brain seems unwilling to 
compute!

So if a book that has been placed on hold that has a Circulating Library of 
'LibraryA' is then transitted to 'LibraryB' where the hold is being fulfilled. 
Does the circulating library temporarily change to 'LibraryB' so that library 
gets the circulation? I'm thinking of circ reports now. Or would it be better 
to use Checkout Library instead to capture all circulations at 'LibraryB'

Hopes this makes sense to someone as I am not quite understanding it.

Thanks
Much
Stuart

--
Stuart Forrest, Library IT Manager/Analyst Beaufort County Library System
311 Scott Street, Beaufort, SC 29902
843 255 6450
sforr...@bcgov.net
beaufortcountylibrary.org

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds / Circulation question

[Goben, Anna]

We use Checkout Library for reporting outputs as that's captured with the circ 
data.  Circulating Library is an item attribute and does not change without 
cataloger intervention.

-Anna

Anna Goben
Evergreen Indiana Coordinator
Indiana State Library
140 N Senate Ave
Indianapolis, IN 46204
317-234-6624
Fax: 317-232-1925

From: Open-ils-general 
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of 
Forrest, Stuart
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 9:04 AM
To: Group, Evergreen 
Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds / Circulation question

 This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments or 
click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. 

Hi

This may sound a simple question to some, but my brain seems unwilling to 
compute!

So if a book that has been placed on hold that has a Circulating Library of 
'LibraryA' is then transitted to 'LibraryB' where the hold is being fulfilled. 
Does the circulating library temporarily change to 'LibraryB' so that library 
gets the circulation? I'm thinking of circ reports now. Or would it be better 
to use Checkout Library instead to capture all circulations at 'LibraryB'

Hopes this makes sense to someone as I am not quite understanding it.

Thanks
Much
Stuart

--
Stuart Forrest, Library IT Manager/Analyst Beaufort County Library System
311 Scott Street, Beaufort, SC 29902
843 255 6450
sforr...@bcgov.net
beaufortcountylibrary.org

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds / Circulation question

[Frasur, Ruth]

Stuart,

The "circulation library" is the library that owns the material.  This doesn't 
change (unless someone cedes ownership).  The "checkout/renew library" is the 
library that is circulating that item at any given moment.  The labeling for 
libraries is confusing.

Ruth Frasur
Evergreen Development and Support Administrator
Indiana State Library
140 N. Senate Ave.
Indianapolis, IN 46204
(317) 460-7556

From: Open-ils-general 
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of 
Forrest, Stuart
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 9:04 AM
To: Group, Evergreen 
Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds / Circulation question

 This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments or 
click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. 

Hi

This may sound a simple question to some, but my brain seems unwilling to 
compute!

So if a book that has been placed on hold that has a Circulating Library of 
'LibraryA' is then transitted to 'LibraryB' where the hold is being fulfilled. 
Does the circulating library temporarily change to 'LibraryB' so that library 
gets the circulation? I'm thinking of circ reports now. Or would it be better 
to use Checkout Library instead to capture all circulations at 'LibraryB'

Hopes this makes sense to someone as I am not quite understanding it.

Thanks
Much
Stuart

--
Stuart Forrest, Library IT Manager/Analyst Beaufort County Library System
311 Scott Street, Beaufort, SC 29902
843 255 6450
sforr...@bcgov.net
beaufortcountylibrary.org

[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Holds / Circulation question

[Forrest, Stuart]

Hi

This may sound a simple question to some, but my brain seems unwilling to 
compute!

So if a book that has been placed on hold that has a Circulating Library of 
'LibraryA' is then transitted to 'LibraryB' where the hold is being fulfilled. 
Does the circulating library temporarily change to 'LibraryB' so that library 
gets the circulation? I'm thinking of circ reports now. Or would it be better 
to use Checkout Library instead to capture all circulations at 'LibraryB'

Hopes this makes sense to someone as I am not quite understanding it.

Thanks
Much
Stuart

--
Stuart Forrest, Library IT Manager/Analyst Beaufort County Library System
311 Scott Street, Beaufort, SC 29902
843 255 6450
sforr...@bcgov.net
beaufortcountylibrary.org