[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Is 264 field indexed and visible in 2.5 version?
Are folks still utilizing the 260 for publication/distributor information or can we now use 264? Thanks Trisha -- Trisha Cantwell Keene Associate Director Thorndike Library College of the Atlantic 109 Eden St. Bar Harbor, ME 04609 (207) 801-5661 (207) 288-2328 Fax tcantw...@coa.edu Google can bring you back a hundred thousand answers. A librarian can bring you back the right one. The Guardian (London)
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Is 264 field indexed and visible in 2.5 version?
Trisha, As far as I know, and I could be wrong, no version of EG supports the displaying the (RDA) 264 tag. Jason Stephenson, from MVLC, wrote some code that takes care of displaying the 264 data on the OPAC for the full bib display. That code change has not been officially approved to be added to EG yet. His code inspired a nice debate on how to move forward with some related RDA and 264 issues, and I guess momentum was lost. For example, at the time he made his changes public there was a debate of how to tweak his changes or repurpose his code logic to allow non-publisher data to show up in the search results. Though Jason's code seem to perfectly handle the 264 data in the full bib view, and I have since added his code to my EG 2.5 system. Add 264 tag values to Record Summary https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1304462 Here is a link to the changes he made to make the 264 data show up in the full bib view... http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=9cf41dc26c536000dcd1cfe52fdf430accb63093 At this point I am not sure what the status is of searching (indexing) on the 264 tag. Coincidentally I was just reviewing Jason's code this week, so I can I try to help revive his code and help propose additional RDA related code changes. I hope this helps, Yamil On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Trisha Cantwell Keene tcantw...@coa.edu wrote: Are folks still utilizing the 260 for publication/distributor information or can we now use 264? Thanks Trisha -- Trisha Cantwell Keene Associate Director Thorndike Library College of the Atlantic 109 Eden St. Bar Harbor, ME 04609 (207) 801-5661 (207) 288-2328 Fax tcantw...@coa.edu Google can bring you back a hundred thousand answers. A librarian can bring you back the right one. The Guardian (London) -- Yamil Suarez, MCS Library System Administrator/Developer Stan Getz Library Berklee College of Music 1140 Boylston St Boston, MA 02215 ysua...@berklee.edu 617-747-2617
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Is 264 field indexed and visible in 2.5 version?
Hi Trisha and Yamil, For clarification, tag 264 for *publisher* data was developed and part of Evergreen 2.4 and was subsequently backported to 2.2.9 and 2.3.7 as well (see https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1071505). Indexing publisher information has not been done to my knowledge by default. We did update the reporter view to include tag 264 for pubdate (publisher date) so any reports that draw from publication info reflects either 260 or 264 for publisher data. The bug that Yamil references deals with other forms of tag 264 for Producer, Distributor, Manufacturer, and Copyright which is noted in the bug's description. Differentiating between the types of tag 264 is done through the indicator fields. The other issue Yamil mentions with https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1304462 and the search results is actually a bug that needs to be addressed as well. Right now, it's grabbing and displaying any 264 found and potentially mislabeling it as publisher in search results when in fact it could be other things. Resolving this bug and completing the work for RDA 264 is on my personal short list of code to finish for Evergreen 2.7.0-beta1 next Thursday. Good to get a nudge, thanks Yamil. ;) -- Ben On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Yamil Suarez ysua...@berklee.edu wrote: Trisha, As far as I know, and I could be wrong, no version of EG supports the displaying the (RDA) 264 tag. Jason Stephenson, from MVLC, wrote some code that takes care of displaying the 264 data on the OPAC for the full bib display. That code change has not been officially approved to be added to EG yet. His code inspired a nice debate on how to move forward with some related RDA and 264 issues, and I guess momentum was lost. For example, at the time he made his changes public there was a debate of how to tweak his changes or repurpose his code logic to allow non-publisher data to show up in the search results. Though Jason's code seem to perfectly handle the 264 data in the full bib view, and I have since added his code to my EG 2.5 system. Add 264 tag values to Record Summary https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1304462 Here is a link to the changes he made to make the 264 data show up in the full bib view... http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=9cf41dc26c536000dcd1cfe52fdf430accb63093 At this point I am not sure what the status is of searching (indexing) on the 264 tag. Coincidentally I was just reviewing Jason's code this week, so I can I try to help revive his code and help propose additional RDA related code changes. I hope this helps, Yamil On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Trisha Cantwell Keene tcantw...@coa.edu wrote: Are folks still utilizing the 260 for publication/distributor information or can we now use 264? Thanks Trisha -- Trisha Cantwell Keene Associate Director Thorndike Library College of the Atlantic 109 Eden St. Bar Harbor, ME 04609 (207) 801-5661 (207) 288-2328 Fax tcantw...@coa.edu Google can bring you back a hundred thousand answers. A librarian can bring you back the right one. The Guardian (London) -- Yamil Suarez, MCS Library System Administrator/Developer Stan Getz Library Berklee College of Music 1140 Boylston St Boston, MA 02215 ysua...@berklee.edu 617-747-2617 -- Benjamin Shum Evergreen Systems Manager Bibliomation, Inc. 24 Wooster Ave. Waterbury, CT 06708 203-577-4070, ext. 113
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Is 264 field indexed and visible in 2.5 version?
Hi Trisha, In terms of indexing, Evergreen by default does not index publication information, even when this information is stored the 260 tag. I think this decision was probably made so that a search for little brown bear didn't retrieve a bunch of records published by Little Brown. We have two consortia in Massachusetts that have decided to make a local configuration to index the 260 and maybe the 264 (not sure on that one). The magic spells page provides some guidance on how specific MARC tags can be indexed - http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=scratchpad:random_magic_spells#how_to_include_a_specific_marc_field_with_a_specific_search_class. Kathy Kathy Lussier Project Coordinator Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative (508) 343-0128 kluss...@masslnc.org Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier On 7/31/2014 4:41 PM, Ben Shum wrote: Hi Trisha and Yamil, For clarification, tag 264 for *publisher* data was developed and part of Evergreen 2.4 and was subsequently backported to 2.2.9 and 2.3.7 as well (see https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1071505). Indexing publisher information has not been done to my knowledge by default. We did update the reporter view to include tag 264 for pubdate (publisher date) so any reports that draw from publication info reflects either 260 or 264 for publisher data. The bug that Yamil references deals with other forms of tag 264 for Producer, Distributor, Manufacturer, and Copyright which is noted in the bug's description. Differentiating between the types of tag 264 is done through the indicator fields. The other issue Yamil mentions with https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1304462 and the search results is actually a bug that needs to be addressed as well. Right now, it's grabbing and displaying any 264 found and potentially mislabeling it as publisher in search results when in fact it could be other things. Resolving this bug and completing the work for RDA 264 is on my personal short list of code to finish for Evergreen 2.7.0-beta1 next Thursday. Good to get a nudge, thanks Yamil. ;) -- Ben On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Yamil Suarez ysua...@berklee.edu mailto:ysua...@berklee.edu wrote: Trisha, As far as I know, and I could be wrong, no version of EG supports the displaying the (RDA) 264 tag. Jason Stephenson, from MVLC, wrote some code that takes care of displaying the 264 data on the OPAC for the full bib display. That code change has not been officially approved to be added to EG yet. His code inspired a nice debate on how to move forward with some related RDA and 264 issues, and I guess momentum was lost. For example, at the time he made his changes public there was a debate of how to tweak his changes or repurpose his code logic to allow non-publisher data to show up in the search results. Though Jason's code seem to perfectly handle the 264 data in the full bib view, and I have since added his code to my EG 2.5 system. Add 264 tag values to Record Summary https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1304462 Here is a link to the changes he made to make the 264 data show up in the full bib view... http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=9cf41dc26c536000dcd1cfe52fdf430accb63093 At this point I am not sure what the status is of searching (indexing) on the 264 tag. Coincidentally I was just reviewing Jason's code this week, so I can I try to help revive his code and help propose additional RDA related code changes. I hope this helps, Yamil On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Trisha Cantwell Keene tcantw...@coa.edu mailto:tcantw...@coa.edu wrote: Are folks still utilizing the 260 for publication/distributor information or can we now use 264? Thanks Trisha -- Trisha Cantwell Keene Associate Director Thorndike Library College of the Atlantic 109 Eden St. Bar Harbor, ME 04609 (207) 801-5661 tel:%28207%29%20801-5661 (207) 288-2328 tel:%28207%29%20288-2328 Fax tcantw...@coa.edu mailto:tcantw...@coa.edu Google can bring you back a hundred thousand answers. A librarian can bring you back the right one. The Guardian (London) -- Yamil Suarez, MCS Library System Administrator/Developer Stan Getz Library Berklee College of Music 1140 Boylston St Boston, MA 02215 ysua...@berklee.edu mailto:ysua...@berklee.edu 617-747-2617 tel:617-747-2617 -- Benjamin Shum Evergreen Systems Manager Bibliomation, Inc. 24 Wooster Ave. Waterbury, CT 06708 203-577-4070, ext. 113