[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Is 264 field indexed and visible in 2.5 version?

2014-07-31 Thread Trisha Cantwell Keene
Are folks still utilizing the 260 for publication/distributor information
or can we now use 264?

Thanks
Trisha
-- 
Trisha Cantwell Keene
Associate Director
Thorndike Library
College of the Atlantic
109 Eden St.
Bar Harbor, ME  04609

(207) 801-5661
(207) 288-2328 Fax
tcantw...@coa.edu

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bring you back the right one.  The Guardian (London)


Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Is 264 field indexed and visible in 2.5 version?

2014-07-31 Thread Yamil Suarez
Trisha,

As far as I know, and I could be wrong, no version of EG supports the
displaying the (RDA) 264 tag. Jason Stephenson, from MVLC, wrote some
code that takes care of displaying the 264 data on the OPAC for the
full bib display. That code change has not been officially approved to
be added to EG yet. His code inspired a nice debate on how to move
forward with some related RDA and 264 issues, and I guess momentum was
lost. For example, at the time he made his changes public there was a
debate of how to tweak his changes or repurpose his code logic to
allow non-publisher data to show up in the search results. Though
Jason's code seem to perfectly handle the 264 data in the full bib
view, and I have since added his code to my EG 2.5 system.

Add 264 tag values to Record Summary
https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1304462

Here is a link to the changes he made to make the 264 data show up in
the full bib view...
http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=9cf41dc26c536000dcd1cfe52fdf430accb63093

At this point I am not sure what the status is of searching (indexing)
on the 264 tag.

Coincidentally I was just reviewing Jason's code this week, so I can I
try to help revive his code and help propose additional RDA related
code changes.

I hope this helps,
Yamil


On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Trisha Cantwell Keene
tcantw...@coa.edu wrote:

 Are folks still utilizing the 260 for publication/distributor information or
 can we now use 264?

 Thanks
 Trisha
 --
 Trisha Cantwell Keene
 Associate Director
 Thorndike Library
 College of the Atlantic
 109 Eden St.
 Bar Harbor, ME  04609

 (207) 801-5661
 (207) 288-2328 Fax
 tcantw...@coa.edu

 Google can bring you back a hundred thousand answers. A librarian can
 bring you back the right one.  The Guardian (London)



-- 





Yamil Suarez, MCS
Library System Administrator/Developer

Stan Getz Library
Berklee College of Music
1140 Boylston St
Boston, MA 02215

ysua...@berklee.edu
617-747-2617


Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Is 264 field indexed and visible in 2.5 version?

2014-07-31 Thread Ben Shum
Hi Trisha and Yamil,

For clarification, tag 264 for *publisher* data was developed and part of
Evergreen 2.4 and was subsequently backported to 2.2.9 and 2.3.7 as well
(see https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1071505).  Indexing
publisher information has not been done to my knowledge by default.  We did
update the reporter view to include tag 264 for pubdate (publisher date) so
any reports that draw from publication info reflects either 260 or 264 for
publisher data.

The bug that Yamil references deals with other forms of tag 264 for
Producer, Distributor, Manufacturer, and Copyright which is noted in the
bug's description.  Differentiating between the types of tag 264 is done
through the indicator fields.  The other issue Yamil mentions with
https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1304462 and the search results is
actually a bug that needs to be addressed as well.  Right now, it's
grabbing and displaying any 264 found and potentially mislabeling it as
publisher in search results when in fact it could be other things.
 Resolving this bug and completing the work for RDA 264 is on my personal
short list of code to finish for Evergreen 2.7.0-beta1 next Thursday.  Good
to get a nudge, thanks Yamil.  ;)

-- Ben




On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Yamil Suarez ysua...@berklee.edu wrote:

 Trisha,

 As far as I know, and I could be wrong, no version of EG supports the
 displaying the (RDA) 264 tag. Jason Stephenson, from MVLC, wrote some
 code that takes care of displaying the 264 data on the OPAC for the
 full bib display. That code change has not been officially approved to
 be added to EG yet. His code inspired a nice debate on how to move
 forward with some related RDA and 264 issues, and I guess momentum was
 lost. For example, at the time he made his changes public there was a
 debate of how to tweak his changes or repurpose his code logic to
 allow non-publisher data to show up in the search results. Though
 Jason's code seem to perfectly handle the 264 data in the full bib
 view, and I have since added his code to my EG 2.5 system.

 Add 264 tag values to Record Summary
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1304462

 Here is a link to the changes he made to make the 264 data show up in
 the full bib view...

 http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=9cf41dc26c536000dcd1cfe52fdf430accb63093

 At this point I am not sure what the status is of searching (indexing)
 on the 264 tag.

 Coincidentally I was just reviewing Jason's code this week, so I can I
 try to help revive his code and help propose additional RDA related
 code changes.

 I hope this helps,
 Yamil


 On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Trisha Cantwell Keene
 tcantw...@coa.edu wrote:
 
  Are folks still utilizing the 260 for publication/distributor
 information or
  can we now use 264?
 
  Thanks
  Trisha
  --
  Trisha Cantwell Keene
  Associate Director
  Thorndike Library
  College of the Atlantic
  109 Eden St.
  Bar Harbor, ME  04609
 
  (207) 801-5661
  (207) 288-2328 Fax
  tcantw...@coa.edu
 
  Google can bring you back a hundred thousand answers. A librarian can
  bring you back the right one.  The Guardian (London)



 --



 

 Yamil Suarez, MCS
 Library System Administrator/Developer

 Stan Getz Library
 Berklee College of Music
 1140 Boylston St
 Boston, MA 02215

 ysua...@berklee.edu
 617-747-2617




-- 
Benjamin Shum
Evergreen Systems Manager
Bibliomation, Inc.
24 Wooster Ave.
Waterbury, CT 06708
203-577-4070, ext. 113


Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Is 264 field indexed and visible in 2.5 version?

2014-07-31 Thread Kathy Lussier

Hi Trisha,

In terms of indexing, Evergreen by default does not index publication 
information, even when this information is stored the 260 tag. I think 
this decision was probably made so that a search for little brown bear 
didn't retrieve a bunch of records published by Little Brown.


We have two consortia in Massachusetts that have decided to make a local 
configuration to index the 260 and maybe the 264 (not sure on that one). 
The magic spells page provides some guidance on how specific MARC tags 
can be indexed - 
http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=scratchpad:random_magic_spells#how_to_include_a_specific_marc_field_with_a_specific_search_class.


Kathy

Kathy Lussier
Project Coordinator
Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
(508) 343-0128
kluss...@masslnc.org
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier

On 7/31/2014 4:41 PM, Ben Shum wrote:

Hi Trisha and Yamil,

For clarification, tag 264 for *publisher* data was developed and part 
of Evergreen 2.4 and was subsequently backported to 2.2.9 and 2.3.7 as 
well (see https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1071505). 
 Indexing publisher information has not been done to my knowledge by 
default.  We did update the reporter view to include tag 264 for 
pubdate (publisher date) so any reports that draw from publication 
info reflects either 260 or 264 for publisher data.


The bug that Yamil references deals with other forms of tag 264 for 
Producer, Distributor, Manufacturer, and Copyright which is noted in 
the bug's description.  Differentiating between the types of tag 264 
is done through the indicator fields.  The other issue Yamil mentions 
with https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1304462 and the search 
results is actually a bug that needs to be addressed as well.  Right 
now, it's grabbing and displaying any 264 found and potentially 
mislabeling it as publisher in search results when in fact it could 
be other things.  Resolving this bug and completing the work for RDA 
264 is on my personal short list of code to finish for Evergreen 
2.7.0-beta1 next Thursday.  Good to get a nudge, thanks Yamil.  ;)


-- Ben




On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Yamil Suarez ysua...@berklee.edu 
mailto:ysua...@berklee.edu wrote:


Trisha,

As far as I know, and I could be wrong, no version of EG supports the
displaying the (RDA) 264 tag. Jason Stephenson, from MVLC, wrote some
code that takes care of displaying the 264 data on the OPAC for the
full bib display. That code change has not been officially approved to
be added to EG yet. His code inspired a nice debate on how to move
forward with some related RDA and 264 issues, and I guess momentum was
lost. For example, at the time he made his changes public there was a
debate of how to tweak his changes or repurpose his code logic to
allow non-publisher data to show up in the search results. Though
Jason's code seem to perfectly handle the 264 data in the full bib
view, and I have since added his code to my EG 2.5 system.

Add 264 tag values to Record Summary
https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1304462

Here is a link to the changes he made to make the 264 data show up in
the full bib view...

http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=9cf41dc26c536000dcd1cfe52fdf430accb63093

At this point I am not sure what the status is of searching (indexing)
on the 264 tag.

Coincidentally I was just reviewing Jason's code this week, so I can I
try to help revive his code and help propose additional RDA related
code changes.

I hope this helps,
Yamil


On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Trisha Cantwell Keene
tcantw...@coa.edu mailto:tcantw...@coa.edu wrote:

 Are folks still utilizing the 260 for publication/distributor
information or
 can we now use 264?

 Thanks
 Trisha
 --
 Trisha Cantwell Keene
 Associate Director
 Thorndike Library
 College of the Atlantic
 109 Eden St.
 Bar Harbor, ME  04609

 (207) 801-5661 tel:%28207%29%20801-5661
 (207) 288-2328 tel:%28207%29%20288-2328 Fax
 tcantw...@coa.edu mailto:tcantw...@coa.edu

 Google can bring you back a hundred thousand answers. A
librarian can
 bring you back the right one.  The Guardian (London)



--





Yamil Suarez, MCS
Library System Administrator/Developer

Stan Getz Library
Berklee College of Music
1140 Boylston St
Boston, MA 02215

ysua...@berklee.edu mailto:ysua...@berklee.edu
617-747-2617 tel:617-747-2617




--
Benjamin Shum
Evergreen Systems Manager
Bibliomation, Inc.
24 Wooster Ave.
Waterbury, CT 06708
203-577-4070, ext. 113