[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] z39.50 character set negotiation?
Hi all, OCLC made updates to its z39.50 service on Sunday, and since then, it's been sending badly encoded characters like nobody's business. I've been able to find out how to get uncorrupted characters in yaz-client, but I don't know how to get Evergreen to do the extra utf-8-setting step detailed below. Example one: just regular old searching (doesn't work) $ yaz-client zcat.oclc.org:210/OLUCWorldCat Z> authentication user/pass Z> init Z> find 9786070131356 Z> show 1 100 1 $a Plans, Juan José, $e compiler. 245 10 $a Los mejores relatos de terror llevados al cine / $c selección, prólogo y notas de Juan José Plans. 250$a Segunda edición 264 1 $a México, D. F. : $b loqueleo, $c 2016. Example two: specifying utf-8 (which does work) $ yaz-client zcat.oclc.org:210/OLUCWorldCat Z> charset utf-8 Z> authentication user/pass Z> init Z> find 9786070131356 Z> show 1 100 1 $a Plans, Juan José, $e compiler. 245 10 $a Los mejores relatos de terror llevados al cine / $c selección, prólogo y notas de Juan José Plans. 250$a Segunda edición 264 1 $a México, D. F. : $b loqueleo, $c 2016. Is there an Evergreen setting somewhere that would specify a charset and fix this problem? Thanks! -Jane -- Jane Sandberg Electronic Resources Librarian Linn-Benton Community College sand...@linnbenton.edu / 541-917-4655 Pronouns: she/her/hers or they/them/theirs
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] z39.50 character set negotiation?
Jane, OCLC does have a system alert posted and is working on a solution. With the exception of records with the copyright character or those titles that are timely, our catalogers have been instructed to hold off importing diacritic laden records (to prevent duplicates, we bring in records one at a time). While it is time consuming, I have asked that, for those titles they must import, they copy the diacritic from the Connexion Client and paste it into the record in MARC edit. It slows things down, but it does work. OCLC generally fixes problems quickly. Hopefully, they will get this one fixed today. Elaine J. Elaine Hardy PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager Georgia Public Library Service/PINES 1800 Century Place, Ste. 150 Atlanta, GA 30045 404.235.7128 Office 404.548.4241 Cell 404.235.7201 FAX On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Jane Sandberg wrote: > Hi all, > > OCLC made updates to its z39.50 service on Sunday, and since then, > it's been sending badly encoded characters like nobody's business. > I've been able to find out how to get uncorrupted characters in > yaz-client, but I don't know how to get Evergreen to do the extra > utf-8-setting step detailed below. > > Example one: just regular old searching (doesn't work) > > $ yaz-client zcat.oclc.org:210/OLUCWorldCat > Z> authentication user/pass > Z> init > Z> find 9786070131356 > Z> show 1 > > 100 1 $a Plans, Juan José, $e compiler. > 245 10 $a Los mejores relatos de terror llevados al cine / $c > selección, prólogo y notas de Juan José Plans. > 250$a Segunda edición > 264 1 $a México, D. F. : $b loqueleo, $c 2016. > > > Example two: specifying utf-8 (which does work) > > $ yaz-client zcat.oclc.org:210/OLUCWorldCat > Z> charset utf-8 > Z> authentication user/pass > Z> init > Z> find 9786070131356 > Z> show 1 > > 100 1 $a Plans, Juan José, $e compiler. > 245 10 $a Los mejores relatos de terror llevados al cine / $c > selección, prólogo y notas de Juan José Plans. > 250$a Segunda edición > 264 1 $a México, D. F. : $b loqueleo, $c 2016. > > > Is there an Evergreen setting somewhere that would specify a charset > and fix this problem? > > Thanks! > > -Jane > > -- > Jane Sandberg > Electronic Resources Librarian > Linn-Benton Community College > sand...@linnbenton.edu / 541-917-4655 > Pronouns: she/her/hers or they/them/theirs >
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] z39.50 character set negotiation?
Hi, On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Jane Sandberg wrote: > Is there an Evergreen setting somewhere that would specify a charset > and fix this problem? Not at present. Hopefully OCLC will revert their change soon, but it would be handy to teach Evergreen Z39.50 client configs about server character encodings as there are certainly targets out there that default to neither MARC-8 or UTF8. I suggest opening a Launchpad bug if you haven't done so already. Regards, Galen -- Galen Charlton Infrastructure and Added Services Manager Equinox Open Library Initiative phone: 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457) email: g...@equinoxinitiative.org web: https://equinoxInitiative.org direct: +1 770-709-5581 cell: +1 404-984-4366
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] z39.50 character set negotiation?
Thanks, Elaine and Galen! I did submit a launchpad bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1675074), please feel free to comment on or refine it. And here's hoping that OCLC fixes this soon! It happened while we were in the middle of a Spanish-language cataloging project; not a great time for diacritics issues. :-( On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 6:15 AM, Galen Charlton wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Jane Sandberg wrote: >> Is there an Evergreen setting somewhere that would specify a charset >> and fix this problem? > > Not at present. Hopefully OCLC will revert their change soon, but it > would be handy to teach Evergreen Z39.50 client configs about server > character encodings as there are certainly targets out there that > default to neither MARC-8 or UTF8. I suggest opening a Launchpad bug > if you haven't done so already. > > Regards, > > Galen > -- > Galen Charlton > Infrastructure and Added Services Manager > Equinox Open Library Initiative > phone: 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457) > email: g...@equinoxinitiative.org > web: https://equinoxInitiative.org > direct: +1 770-709-5581 > cell: +1 404-984-4366 -- Jane Sandberg Electronic Resources Librarian Linn-Benton Community College sand...@linnbenton.edu / 541-917-4655 Pronouns: she/her/hers or they/them/theirs
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] z39.50 character set negotiation?
OH NO! Can you use Vandeley for the duration of the error? Before I reported the problem with OCLC I used it to overlay a record to check if the issue was more widespread than the Z39.50 interface. Diacritics were fine. Elaine J. Elaine Hardy PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager Georgia Public Library Service/PINES 1800 Century Place, Ste. 150 Atlanta, GA 30045 404.235.7128 Office 404.548.4241 Cell 404.235.7201 FAX On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Jane Sandberg wrote: > Thanks, Elaine and Galen! I did submit a launchpad bug > (https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1675074), please feel free > to comment on or refine it. > > And here's hoping that OCLC fixes this soon! It happened while we > were in the middle of a Spanish-language cataloging project; not a > great time for diacritics issues. :-( > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 6:15 AM, Galen Charlton > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Jane Sandberg > wrote: > >> Is there an Evergreen setting somewhere that would specify a charset > >> and fix this problem? > > > > Not at present. Hopefully OCLC will revert their change soon, but it > > would be handy to teach Evergreen Z39.50 client configs about server > > character encodings as there are certainly targets out there that > > default to neither MARC-8 or UTF8. I suggest opening a Launchpad bug > > if you haven't done so already. > > > > Regards, > > > > Galen > > -- > > Galen Charlton > > Infrastructure and Added Services Manager > > Equinox Open Library Initiative > > phone: 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457) > > email: g...@equinoxinitiative.org > > web: https://equinoxInitiative.org > > direct: +1 770-709-5581 > > cell: +1 404-984-4366 > > > > -- > Jane Sandberg > Electronic Resources Librarian > Linn-Benton Community College > sand...@linnbenton.edu / 541-917-4655 > Pronouns: she/her/hers or they/them/theirs >
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] z39.50 character set negotiation?
We might end up using Vandelay, but we might also just wait for this issue to be resolved. There's no shortage of other things to do around here. :-) On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 8:58 AM, Elaine Hardy wrote: > OH NO! > > Can you use Vandeley for the duration of the error? Before I reported the > problem with OCLC I used it to overlay a record to check if the issue was > more widespread than the Z39.50 interface. Diacritics were fine. > > Elaine > > > > J. Elaine Hardy > PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager > Georgia Public Library Service/PINES > 1800 Century Place, Ste. 150 > Atlanta, GA 30045 > > 404.235.7128 Office > 404.548.4241 Cell > 404.235.7201 FAX > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Jane Sandberg > wrote: >> >> Thanks, Elaine and Galen! I did submit a launchpad bug >> (https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1675074), please feel free >> to comment on or refine it. >> >> And here's hoping that OCLC fixes this soon! It happened while we >> were in the middle of a Spanish-language cataloging project; not a >> great time for diacritics issues. :-( >> >> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 6:15 AM, Galen Charlton >> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Jane Sandberg >> > wrote: >> >> Is there an Evergreen setting somewhere that would specify a charset >> >> and fix this problem? >> > >> > Not at present. Hopefully OCLC will revert their change soon, but it >> > would be handy to teach Evergreen Z39.50 client configs about server >> > character encodings as there are certainly targets out there that >> > default to neither MARC-8 or UTF8. I suggest opening a Launchpad bug >> > if you haven't done so already. >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Galen >> > -- >> > Galen Charlton >> > Infrastructure and Added Services Manager >> > Equinox Open Library Initiative >> > phone: 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457) >> > email: g...@equinoxinitiative.org >> > web: https://equinoxInitiative.org >> > direct: +1 770-709-5581 >> > cell: +1 404-984-4366 >> >> >> >> -- >> Jane Sandberg >> Electronic Resources Librarian >> Linn-Benton Community College >> sand...@linnbenton.edu / 541-917-4655 >> Pronouns: she/her/hers or they/them/theirs > > -- Jane Sandberg Electronic Resources Librarian Linn-Benton Community College sand...@linnbenton.edu / 541-917-4655 Pronouns: she/her/hers or they/them/theirs
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] z39.50 character set negotiation?
Hopefully there will be a quick resolution. The problem seems to be affecting a lot of libraries. On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 12:04 PM, Jane Sandberg wrote: > We might end up using Vandelay, but we might also just wait for this > issue to be resolved. There's no shortage of other things to do > around here. :-) > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 8:58 AM, Elaine Hardy > wrote: > > OH NO! > > > > Can you use Vandeley for the duration of the error? Before I reported the > > problem with OCLC I used it to overlay a record to check if the issue was > > more widespread than the Z39.50 interface. Diacritics were fine. > > > > Elaine > > > > > > > > J. Elaine Hardy > > PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager > > Georgia Public Library Service/PINES > > 1800 Century Place, Ste. 150 > > Atlanta, GA 30045 > > > > 404.235.7128 Office > > 404.548.4241 Cell > > 404.235.7201 FAX > > > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Jane Sandberg > > wrote: > >> > >> Thanks, Elaine and Galen! I did submit a launchpad bug > >> (https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1675074), please feel free > >> to comment on or refine it. > >> > >> And here's hoping that OCLC fixes this soon! It happened while we > >> were in the middle of a Spanish-language cataloging project; not a > >> great time for diacritics issues. :-( > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 6:15 AM, Galen Charlton > >> wrote: > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Jane Sandberg < > sand...@linnbenton.edu> > >> > wrote: > >> >> Is there an Evergreen setting somewhere that would specify a charset > >> >> and fix this problem? > >> > > >> > Not at present. Hopefully OCLC will revert their change soon, but it > >> > would be handy to teach Evergreen Z39.50 client configs about server > >> > character encodings as there are certainly targets out there that > >> > default to neither MARC-8 or UTF8. I suggest opening a Launchpad bug > >> > if you haven't done so already. > >> > > >> > Regards, > >> > > >> > Galen > >> > -- > >> > Galen Charlton > >> > Infrastructure and Added Services Manager > >> > Equinox Open Library Initiative > >> > phone: 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457) > >> > email: g...@equinoxinitiative.org > >> > web: https://equinoxInitiative.org > >> > direct: +1 770-709-5581 > >> > cell: +1 404-984-4366 > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Jane Sandberg > >> Electronic Resources Librarian > >> Linn-Benton Community College > >> sand...@linnbenton.edu / 541-917-4655 > >> Pronouns: she/her/hers or they/them/theirs > > > > > > > > -- > Jane Sandberg > Electronic Resources Librarian > Linn-Benton Community College > sand...@linnbenton.edu / 541-917-4655 > Pronouns: she/her/hers or they/them/theirs > -- Sarah Childs Technical Services Department Head Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] z39.50 character set negotiation?
Looks like it's fixed for us! Thanks for your help, everyone! On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Sarah Childs wrote: > Hopefully there will be a quick resolution. The problem seems to be > affecting a lot of libraries. > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 12:04 PM, Jane Sandberg > wrote: >> >> We might end up using Vandelay, but we might also just wait for this >> issue to be resolved. There's no shortage of other things to do >> around here. :-) >> >> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 8:58 AM, Elaine Hardy >> wrote: >> > OH NO! >> > >> > Can you use Vandeley for the duration of the error? Before I reported >> > the >> > problem with OCLC I used it to overlay a record to check if the issue >> > was >> > more widespread than the Z39.50 interface. Diacritics were fine. >> > >> > Elaine >> > >> > >> > >> > J. Elaine Hardy >> > PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager >> > Georgia Public Library Service/PINES >> > 1800 Century Place, Ste. 150 >> > Atlanta, GA 30045 >> > >> > 404.235.7128 Office >> > 404.548.4241 Cell >> > 404.235.7201 FAX >> > >> > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Jane Sandberg >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Thanks, Elaine and Galen! I did submit a launchpad bug >> >> (https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1675074), please feel free >> >> to comment on or refine it. >> >> >> >> And here's hoping that OCLC fixes this soon! It happened while we >> >> were in the middle of a Spanish-language cataloging project; not a >> >> great time for diacritics issues. :-( >> >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 6:15 AM, Galen Charlton >> >> wrote: >> >> > Hi, >> >> > >> >> > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Jane Sandberg >> >> > >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> Is there an Evergreen setting somewhere that would specify a charset >> >> >> and fix this problem? >> >> > >> >> > Not at present. Hopefully OCLC will revert their change soon, but it >> >> > would be handy to teach Evergreen Z39.50 client configs about server >> >> > character encodings as there are certainly targets out there that >> >> > default to neither MARC-8 or UTF8. I suggest opening a Launchpad bug >> >> > if you haven't done so already. >> >> > >> >> > Regards, >> >> > >> >> > Galen >> >> > -- >> >> > Galen Charlton >> >> > Infrastructure and Added Services Manager >> >> > Equinox Open Library Initiative >> >> > phone: 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457) >> >> > email: g...@equinoxinitiative.org >> >> > web: https://equinoxInitiative.org >> >> > direct: +1 770-709-5581 >> >> > cell: +1 404-984-4366 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Jane Sandberg >> >> Electronic Resources Librarian >> >> Linn-Benton Community College >> >> sand...@linnbenton.edu / 541-917-4655 >> >> Pronouns: she/her/hers or they/them/theirs >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Jane Sandberg >> Electronic Resources Librarian >> Linn-Benton Community College >> sand...@linnbenton.edu / 541-917-4655 >> Pronouns: she/her/hers or they/them/theirs > > > > > -- > Sarah Childs > Technical Services Department Head > Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library > 250 North Fifth Street > Zionsville, IN 46077 > 317-873-3149 x13330 > sar...@zionsvillelibrary.org -- Jane Sandberg Electronic Resources Librarian Linn-Benton Community College sand...@linnbenton.edu / 541-917-4655 Pronouns: she/her/hers or they/them/theirs