Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Copy status for reference books?
Dan, we have tried it already but without success. We have made the
changes in the file
/openils/var/web/opac/skin/default/xml/result/result_table.xml.
Do you think that it should be sufficient to make the desired changes in
this file or is it necessary to make them during the installation
process (as the location
Open-ILS/web/opac/skin/default/xml/result/result_table.xml you have
mentioned might indicate)? Or - in case we have Evergreen already
installed - is it necessary to make some changes in some other files or
something like that?
Thank you in advance for your view!
Linda
PS: Also a big thank you goes to you for all of your recommendations
regarding our favorite ;-) facet translations etc. - we usually proceed
little by little as we fiddle with Evergreen in our spare time :-).
Dne 19.1.2012 07:22, Linda Jansova napsal(a):
Thank you, Dan! We shall definitely try it :-)!
Linda
Dne 18.1.2012 16:15, Dan Scott napsal(a):
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 02:34:41PM -0500, Mike Rylander wrote:
2012/1/16 Linda Jansovaskolk...@chello.cz:
Hi,
We have come across a probably more or less country-specific issue:
In Jabok Library, reference books (i.e., books which cannot be
checked out
and can only be read in the library) don't share the same copy
location (as
often, though probably not always, do reference books in US libraries).
Rather, the books in Jabok Library are dispersed throughout the
library. A
typical example would five copies of the book - four of them could be
checked out and one of them could not be. All five copies would be
physically located on the very same shelf - distinguished by a spine
label
so that the user immediately sees whether he or she is able to check
out the
particular copy.
When it comes to Evergreen (we are currently using version 2.0.9),
would you
recommend creating a new copy status (in Server Administration - Copy
statuses) entitled (in English) say Reference which would be
visible in
the OPAC and one could not place holds on it? What we need is to
make it
more visible for the user to see whether a particular copy is a
usual copy
which could be checked out whether it is a reference book... In case
we use
the copy status as indicated, we (and the users of course) can
conveniently
see the status below the record of the title...
Or perhaps an entirely different solution would be better in this case?
There's a Reference flag that can be set on a per-copy basis, and can
be used to disallow holds and circulations.
Building on what Mike said, that Reference flag for copies is exposed in
the data available to BibTemplate (in the JavaScript OPAC) using the
marcxml-full data type - which is what the search result copy summaries
are built from.
So, let's peek behind the veil to see a snippet of the XML that's
returned:
holdings xmlns=http://open-ils.org/spec/holdings/v1;
counts
count type=public count=2 available=2 unshadow=2
transcendant=0 org_unit=1 depth=0/
count type=public count=2 available=2 unshadow=2
transcendant=0 org_unit=105 depth=1/
/counts
volumes
volume id=tag:open-ils.org:asset-call_number/1744485 lib=OSUL
opac_visible=t deleted=f label=QA 76.76 S46 Z55 2006
copies
copy id=tag:open-ils.org:asset-copy/490288
create_date=2006-03-14T00:00:00-0500
edit_date=2011-03-28T09:36:52-0400 copy_number= circulate=t
deposit=f ref=f holdable=t deleted=f deposit_amount=0.00
price= barcode=30007008266958 circ_modifier=BOOK circ_as_type=
opac_visible=t
status ident=0 opac_visible=tAvailable/status
location ident=142 opac_visible=tCirculation (3rd floor)/location
circlib ident=103 opac_visible=tJ.N. Desmarais Library/circlib
circ_lib xmlns=http://open-ils.org/spec/actors/v1;
id=tag:open-ils.org:actor-org_unit/103 shortname=OSUL
name=J.N. Desmarais Library opac_visible=t/
monograph_parts/monograph_parts
copy_notes/copy_notes
statcats/statcats
/copy
/copies
uris/
prefix ident=-1 id=tag:open-ils.org:asset-call_number_prefix/-1
label_sortkey=/
suffix ident=-1 id=tag:open-ils.org:asset-call_number_suffix/-1
label_sortkey=/
owning_lib xmlns=http://open-ils.org/spec/actors/v1;
id=tag:open-ils.org:actor-org_unit/103 shortname=OSUL name=J.N.
Desmarais Library/
/volume
/volumes
/holdings
All of that is mostly to expose what is available to sites to fairly
easily customize displays. In your case, thecopy element is what
you're looking for, and the ref attribute is what tells you whether
the reference flag has been checked off. You could then adjust the
BibTemplate code in
Open-ILS/web/opac/skin/default/xml/result/result_table.xml to check the
value of the ref attribute and alter the display accordingly, within
the scope of the dojo.query('copy', vol).forEach(function (cp) { loop.
For example, you could assign the value of copy.getAttribute('ref') to a
variable, and then within the chunk of code that determines the display
status, make it generate Reference instead of Available (or append
Reference to the current status string, and/or make it an HTML element
with a title
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Copy status for reference books?
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 02:34:41PM -0500, Mike Rylander wrote:
2012/1/16 Linda Jansova skolk...@chello.cz:
Hi,
We have come across a probably more or less country-specific issue:
In Jabok Library, reference books (i.e., books which cannot be checked out
and can only be read in the library) don't share the same copy location (as
often, though probably not always, do reference books in US libraries).
Rather, the books in Jabok Library are dispersed throughout the library. A
typical example would five copies of the book - four of them could be
checked out and one of them could not be. All five copies would be
physically located on the very same shelf - distinguished by a spine label
so that the user immediately sees whether he or she is able to check out the
particular copy.
When it comes to Evergreen (we are currently using version 2.0.9), would you
recommend creating a new copy status (in Server Administration - Copy
statuses) entitled (in English) say Reference which would be visible in
the OPAC and one could not place holds on it? What we need is to make it
more visible for the user to see whether a particular copy is a usual copy
which could be checked out whether it is a reference book... In case we use
the copy status as indicated, we (and the users of course) can conveniently
see the status below the record of the title...
Or perhaps an entirely different solution would be better in this case?
There's a Reference flag that can be set on a per-copy basis, and can
be used to disallow holds and circulations.
Building on what Mike said, that Reference flag for copies is exposed in
the data available to BibTemplate (in the JavaScript OPAC) using the
marcxml-full data type - which is what the search result copy summaries
are built from.
So, let's peek behind the veil to see a snippet of the XML that's returned:
holdings xmlns=http://open-ils.org/spec/holdings/v1;
counts
count type=public count=2 available=2 unshadow=2 transcendant=0
org_unit=1 depth=0/
count type=public count=2 available=2 unshadow=2 transcendant=0
org_unit=105 depth=1/
/counts
volumes
volume id=tag:open-ils.org:asset-call_number/1744485 lib=OSUL
opac_visible=t deleted=f label=QA 76.76 S46 Z55 2006
copies
copy id=tag:open-ils.org:asset-copy/490288
create_date=2006-03-14T00:00:00-0500
edit_date=2011-03-28T09:36:52-0400 copy_number= circulate=t
deposit=f ref=f holdable=t deleted=f deposit_amount=0.00
price= barcode=30007008266958 circ_modifier=BOOK
circ_as_type=
opac_visible=t
status ident=0 opac_visible=tAvailable/status
location ident=142 opac_visible=tCirculation (3rd
floor)/location
circlib ident=103 opac_visible=tJ.N. Desmarais Library/circlib
circ_lib xmlns=http://open-ils.org/spec/actors/v1;
id=tag:open-ils.org:actor-org_unit/103 shortname=OSUL
name=J.N. Desmarais Library opac_visible=t/
monograph_parts/monograph_parts
copy_notes/copy_notes
statcats/statcats
/copy
/copies
uris/
prefix ident=-1 id=tag:open-ils.org:asset-call_number_prefix/-1
label_sortkey=/
suffix ident=-1 id=tag:open-ils.org:asset-call_number_suffix/-1
label_sortkey=/
owning_lib xmlns=http://open-ils.org/spec/actors/v1;
id=tag:open-ils.org:actor-org_unit/103 shortname=OSUL name=J.N.
Desmarais Library/
/volume
/volumes
/holdings
All of that is mostly to expose what is available to sites to fairly
easily customize displays. In your case, the copy element is what
you're looking for, and the ref attribute is what tells you whether
the reference flag has been checked off. You could then adjust the
BibTemplate code in
Open-ILS/web/opac/skin/default/xml/result/result_table.xml to check the
value of the ref attribute and alter the display accordingly, within
the scope of the dojo.query('copy', vol).forEach(function (cp) { loop.
For example, you could assign the value of copy.getAttribute('ref') to a
variable, and then within the chunk of code that determines the display
status, make it generate Reference instead of Available (or append
Reference to the current status string, and/or make it an HTML element
with a title attribute so that when the user hovers over it it says
Cannot be held or circulated) or something like that.
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Copy status for reference books?
Hi Linda, Our libraries had this problem, too. To work around it, they created separate volumes for reference copies. This allows the call number and location to display separately from the items in the general collection. The following is an example on our development system: http://ecrldev.mnpals.net/opac/en-US/skin/default/xml/rdetail.xml?r=146847t=free%20moneytp=titled=0hc=10rt=title I hope this helps! Jennifer Turner | PALS, A Program of the Minnesota State Colleges and Universities | 507-389-2000 From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Linda Jansova Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 1:06 AM To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Copy status for reference books? Mike, I forgot to mention that Jabok Library actually uses the reference flag but the problem is that the user only sees what is displayed in the OPAC and it seems that it is impossible for the user to distinguish between a copy which is a reference copy and a copy which is not. An example could be this book: http://www.jabok.cuni.cz/opac/en-US/skin/default/xml/rdetail.xml?r=11941t=soci%C3%A1ln%C3%AD%20v%20praxi%20matou%C5%A1ektp=keywordd=0hc=1rt=keyword and a copy with a barcode 424480018601 listed in copy location Odborná knihovna. The user sees that it is available. However, he or she does not see whether it is a reference copy or not... Linda Dne 16.1.2012 20:34, Mike Rylander napsal(a): 2012/1/16 Linda Jansova skolk...@chello.czmailto:skolk...@chello.cz: Hi, We have come across a probably more or less country-specific issue: In Jabok Library, reference books (i.e., books which cannot be checked out and can only be read in the library) don't share the same copy location (as often, though probably not always, do reference books in US libraries). Rather, the books in Jabok Library are dispersed throughout the library. A typical example would five copies of the book - four of them could be checked out and one of them could not be. All five copies would be physically located on the very same shelf - distinguished by a spine label so that the user immediately sees whether he or she is able to check out the particular copy. When it comes to Evergreen (we are currently using version 2.0.9), would you recommend creating a new copy status (in Server Administration - Copy statuses) entitled (in English) say Reference which would be visible in the OPAC and one could not place holds on it? What we need is to make it more visible for the user to see whether a particular copy is a usual copy which could be checked out whether it is a reference book... In case we use the copy status as indicated, we (and the users of course) can conveniently see the status below the record of the title... Or perhaps an entirely different solution would be better in this case? There's a Reference flag that can be set on a per-copy basis, and can be used to disallow holds and circulations. HTH,
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Copy status for reference books?
Thank you, Jennifer, we shall try it and see whether it would work for us :-)! Linda Dne 17.1.2012 16:49, Turner, Jennifer M napsal(a): Hi Linda, Our libraries had this problem, too. To work around it, they created separate volumes for reference copies. This allows the call number and location to display separately from the items in the general collection. The following is an example on our development system: http://ecrldev.mnpals.net/opac/en-US/skin/default/xml/rdetail.xml?r=146847t=free%20moneytp=titled=0hc=10rt=title http://ecrldev.mnpals.net/opac/en-US/skin/default/xml/rdetail.xml?r=146847t=free%20moneytp=titled=0hc=10rt=title I hope this helps! Jennifer Turner | PALS, A Program of the Minnesota State Colleges and Universities | 507-389-2000 *From:*open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf Of *Linda Jansova *Sent:* Tuesday, January 17, 2012 1:06 AM *To:* open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Copy status for reference books? Mike, I forgot to mention that Jabok Library actually uses the reference flag but the problem is that the user only sees what is displayed in the OPAC and it seems that it is impossible for the user to distinguish between a copy which is a reference copy and a copy which is not. An example could be this book: http://www.jabok.cuni.cz/opac/en-US/skin/default/xml/rdetail.xml?r=11941t=soci%C3%A1ln%C3%AD%20v%20praxi%20matou%C5%A1ektp=keywordd=0hc=1rt=keyword http://www.jabok.cuni.cz/opac/en-US/skin/default/xml/rdetail.xml?r=11941t=soci%C3%A1ln%C3%AD%20v%20praxi%20matou%C5%A1ektp=keywordd=0hc=1rt=keyword and a copy with a barcode 424480018601 listed in copy location Odborná knihovna. The user sees that it is available. However, he or she does not see whether it is a reference copy or not... Linda Dne 16.1.2012 20:34, Mike Rylander napsal(a): 2012/1/16 Linda Jansovaskolk...@chello.cz mailto:skolk...@chello.cz: Hi, We have come across a probably more or less country-specific issue: In Jabok Library, reference books (i.e., books which cannot be checked out and can only be read in the library) don't share the same copy location (as often, though probably not always, do reference books in US libraries). Rather, the books in Jabok Library are dispersed throughout the library. A typical example would five copies of the book - four of them could be checked out and one of them could not be. All five copies would be physically located on the very same shelf - distinguished by a spine label so that the user immediately sees whether he or she is able to check out the particular copy. When it comes to Evergreen (we are currently using version 2.0.9), would you recommend creating a new copy status (in Server Administration - Copy statuses) entitled (in English) say Reference which would be visible in the OPAC and one could not place holds on it? What we need is to make it more visible for the user to see whether a particular copy is a usual copy which could be checked out whether it is a reference book... In case we use the copy status as indicated, we (and the users of course) can conveniently see the status below the record of the title... Or perhaps an entirely different solution would be better in this case? There's a Reference flag that can be set on a per-copy basis, and can be used to disallow holds and circulations. HTH,
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Copy status for reference books?
2012/1/16 Linda Jansova skolk...@chello.cz: Hi, We have come across a probably more or less country-specific issue: In Jabok Library, reference books (i.e., books which cannot be checked out and can only be read in the library) don't share the same copy location (as often, though probably not always, do reference books in US libraries). Rather, the books in Jabok Library are dispersed throughout the library. A typical example would five copies of the book - four of them could be checked out and one of them could not be. All five copies would be physically located on the very same shelf - distinguished by a spine label so that the user immediately sees whether he or she is able to check out the particular copy. When it comes to Evergreen (we are currently using version 2.0.9), would you recommend creating a new copy status (in Server Administration - Copy statuses) entitled (in English) say Reference which would be visible in the OPAC and one could not place holds on it? What we need is to make it more visible for the user to see whether a particular copy is a usual copy which could be checked out whether it is a reference book... In case we use the copy status as indicated, we (and the users of course) can conveniently see the status below the record of the title... Or perhaps an entirely different solution would be better in this case? There's a Reference flag that can be set on a per-copy basis, and can be used to disallow holds and circulations. HTH, -- Mike Rylander | Director of Research and Development | Equinox Software, Inc. / Your Library's Guide to Open Source | phone: 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457) | email: mi...@esilibrary.com | web: http://www.esilibrary.com
