Re: [OpenAFS] Installation of OpenAFS on Ubuntu 11.10

[Derrick Brashear]

1.7? sounds like 'latest greatest syndrome'. no one ever suggested a 1.7 
release for anything but Windows.

Derrick


On Mar 28, 2012, at 11:25, Xianwei Zhang  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I am doing a project to optimize the backup of OpenAFS. Now I am
> installing the server on my ubuntu 11.10. I got stuck on creating root.afs
> volume.
> 
> $ ./vos create 130.49.223.224 vicepa root.afs –noauth
> Failed to create the volume root.afs 0
>: Argument list too long
> : Argument list too long
> Error in vos create command.
>: Argument list too long
> $ ./vos create 130.49.223.224 vicepa root.afs –noauth
> Could not create a VLDB entry for the volume root.afs 3
> VLDB: index was out of range
> Error in vos create command.
> VLDB: index was out of range
> 
> The VolserLog says:
> Starting AFS Volserver 2.0 (/usr/afs/bin/volserver)
> 1 Volser: CreateVolume: missing volume number; root.afs volume not created
> 1 Volser: CreateVolume: Volume 3 (root.afs) created
> 1 Volser: Delete: Volume 3 deleted
> 
> The FileLog says:
> File Server started (Date)
> fssync: breaking all call backs for volume 3
> 
> No VLLog and SalvageLog are there.
> 
> I install from the source code of version 1.7.1 on ubuntu 11.10 and
> attached is the step-by-step record of my install operations. Could you
> plz have a read of that to verify that the operations are complete and
> correct. I have been puzzled by this for a whole week.
> 
> Thank you in advance.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
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Re: [OpenAFS] Installation of OpenAFS on Ubuntu 11.10

[Russ Allbery]

Jonathan Billings  writes:
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 11:10:21AM -0400, Xianwei Zhang wrote:

>> I install from the source code of version 1.7.1 on ubuntu 11.10 and
>> attached is the step-by-step record of my install operations. Could you
>> plz have a read of that to verify that the operations are complete and
>> correct. I have been puzzled by this for a whole week.

> I believe that 1.6.0 is the latest release available for Linux,
> although you can also give 1.6.1pre4 a try as well.

1.6.1 is now mostly out; just the final wrapping up and announcing to go,
I believe.

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Re: [OpenAFS] Installation of OpenAFS on Ubuntu 11.10

[Jonathan Billings]

On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 11:10:21AM -0400, Xianwei Zhang wrote:
> I install from the source code of version 1.7.1 on ubuntu 11.10 and
> attached is the step-by-step record of my install operations. Could you
> plz have a read of that to verify that the operations are complete and
> correct. I have been puzzled by this for a whole week.

I believe that 1.6.0 is the latest release available for Linux,
although you can also give 1.6.1pre4 a try as well.  1.7.x is for MS
Windows only.

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[OpenAFS] Re: Combo DB + file servers

[Andrew Deason]

On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 14:59:59 -0400
Jeff Blaine  wrote:

> Remind me why it was the right thing to do when I separated all DB
> server functionality from fileserver functionality 9 years ago?

You can move what machines the fileservers are on nearly without
penalty, but they need disk to store stuff and a bit of other resources.
dbservers need to not move (IPs) frequently, but you could run them on a
toaster (performance-wise) for most cells. A lot of the time that means
different machines, but it doesn't need to. 

You can also argue this from the point of view of the dbservers often
being more critical than fileservers. So, for things like isolating them
from machine-wide outages, having them on different upgrade cycles, or
maybe even being managed by different groups of people, having separate
boxes may be better. But I think that depends far more on the specific
environment.

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Re: [OpenAFS] Combo DB + file servers

[Simon Wilkinson]

On 29 Mar 2012, at 20:05, Brandon Allbery wrote:

> SRV records help somewhat with the dbserver issue,

Sadly SRV records don't help quite as much as you might like. There are still 
far too many SOHO routers on the market that claim to have a forwarding DNS 
server, but just drop SRV records on the floor. Admittedly they drop AFSDB 
records on the floor too, but that's not much comfort.

My previous employer found that they only way to ensure that academics could 
get access to their files from home was to put entries in the CellServDB. And 
its doing that that means you want IP addresses for your DB servers that never 
change.

Cheers,

Simon

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Re: [OpenAFS] Combo DB + file servers

[Lars Schimmer]

On 29.03.2012 21:05, Brandon Allbery wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 14:59, Jeff Blaine  > wrote:
> 
> Perhaps someone can jog my memory :)
> 
> Remind me why it was the right thing to do when I separated
> all DB server functionality from fileserver functionality
> 9 years ago?
> 
> 
> That used to be recommended because you might need to be able to move
> fileservers around easily, but dbservers (in particular the lowest
> numbered server) are harder to move around.  SRV records help somewhat
> with the dbserver issue, but you still need to use care with respect to
> that lowest numbered dbserver to avoid losing the sync site.

We do run 3 fs/db servers for 6 years now, changed IPs ones and restart
them once in a while.
I never cared about lowest IP  or sync site, and cell still works fine,
never had problems with syncing DBs at all.
So far: combine them, no problem at all.

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> 


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Re: [OpenAFS] Combo DB + file servers

[Brandon Allbery]

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 14:59, Jeff Blaine  wrote:

> Perhaps someone can jog my memory :)
>
> Remind me why it was the right thing to do when I separated
> all DB server functionality from fileserver functionality
> 9 years ago?
>

That used to be recommended because you might need to be able to move
fileservers around easily, but dbservers (in particular the lowest numbered
server) are harder to move around.  SRV records help somewhat with the
dbserver issue, but you still need to use care with respect to that lowest
numbered dbserver to avoid losing the sync site.

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[OpenAFS] Combo DB + file servers

[Jeff Blaine]

Perhaps someone can jog my memory :)

Remind me why it was the right thing to do when I separated
all DB server functionality from fileserver functionality
9 years ago?

  Site A
fs1
fs2
fs3
db1
db2
db3

  Site B
fs4
fs5
db4

Strongly considering folding the DB servers back onto the
fileservers.
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Re: [OpenAFS] No AFS menu or authentication in OpenAFS 1.6.1pre4 for MacOS 10.7 (Lion)

[Chris Jones]

On 29/03/12 14:33, Chris Jones wrote:

On 29/03/12 14:28, Derrick Brashear wrote:

A fix is already in 1.6.1 final. I can't do anything more than fix it.


Someone could have been bothered to reply to the bug report saying so ...


Sorry, that was a little rude. I do appreciate the work you guys do.

My frustration though came from the fact I try and dutifully follow the 
instructions sent with each release


"Please assist the gatekeepers by deploying this release and providing 
positive or negative feedback. Bug reports should be filed to
openafs-b...@openafs.org .  Reports of success should be sent to 
openafs-info@openafs.org . "


However, I never get any sort of feed back on the bugs I report. It 
would be nice to hear something back sometimes


cheers Chris





On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Chris Jones
wrote:

Hi,

I see the sdame as Melissa, and already have a bug report for this here

http://rt.central.org/rt/Ticket/Display.html?id=130618

Chris

On 26/03/12 23:44, Derrick Brashear wrote:


Do you have crash reports for AFSBackgrounder in
~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports
?


On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Melissa A. Hines
 wrote:


Because of the kernel panics on shutdown with OpenAFS 1.6.0 (a known
bug), I upgraded to OpenAFS 1.6.1pre4 on Mac OS 10.7.3. I have
enabled the
following in the OpenAFS System Prefs:

Start AFS at boot (tried both settings)
AFS Menu
Backgrounder
Use aklog
get credential at login time (tried both settings)

The AFS menu does not appear in the menu bar, and I am unable to
successfully get a new token using the button in OpenAFS System
Prefs. On
the bright side, I no longer get a kernel panic when I turn AFS off.

Any suggestions?

With regards,

Melissa

Melissa A. Hines Director, Cornell Center for
Materials Research
Department of Chemistry Professor of Chemistry
and Chemical Biology Voice/FAX: 607-255-3040
Cornell University
http://www.chem.cornell.edu/mah11/

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Re: [OpenAFS] No AFS menu or authentication in OpenAFS 1.6.1pre4 for MacOS 10.7 (Lion)

[Chris Jones]

On 29/03/12 14:28, Derrick Brashear wrote:

A fix is already in 1.6.1 final. I can't do anything more than fix it.


Someone could have been bothered to reply to the bug report saying so ...



On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Chris Jones  wrote:

Hi,

I see the sdame as Melissa, and already have a bug report for this here

http://rt.central.org/rt/Ticket/Display.html?id=130618

Chris

On 26/03/12 23:44, Derrick Brashear wrote:


Do you have crash reports for AFSBackgrounder in
~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports
?


On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Melissa A. Hines
wrote:


Because of the kernel panics on shutdown with OpenAFS 1.6.0 (a known
bug), I upgraded to OpenAFS 1.6.1pre4 on Mac OS 10.7.3. I have enabled the
following in the OpenAFS System Prefs:

Start AFS at boot (tried both settings)
AFS Menu
Backgrounder
Use aklog
get credential at login time (tried both settings)

The AFS menu does not appear in the menu bar, and I am unable to
successfully get a new token using the button in OpenAFS System Prefs. On
the bright side, I no longer get a kernel panic when I turn AFS off.

Any suggestions?

With regards,

Melissa

Melissa A. HinesDirector, Cornell Center for
Materials Research
Department of Chemistry Professor of Chemistry
   and Chemical Biology Voice/FAX: 607-255-3040
Cornell University
  http://www.chem.cornell.edu/mah11/

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Re: [OpenAFS] No AFS menu or authentication in OpenAFS 1.6.1pre4 for MacOS 10.7 (Lion)

[Derrick Brashear]

A fix is already in 1.6.1 final. I can't do anything more than fix it.

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Chris Jones  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I see the sdame as Melissa, and already have a bug report for this here
>
> http://rt.central.org/rt/Ticket/Display.html?id=130618
>
> Chris
>
> On 26/03/12 23:44, Derrick Brashear wrote:
>>
>> Do you have crash reports for AFSBackgrounder in
>> ~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports
>> ?
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Melissa A. Hines
>>   wrote:
>>>
>>> Because of the kernel panics on shutdown with OpenAFS 1.6.0 (a known
>>> bug), I upgraded to OpenAFS 1.6.1pre4 on Mac OS 10.7.3. I have enabled the
>>> following in the OpenAFS System Prefs:
>>>
>>> Start AFS at boot (tried both settings)
>>> AFS Menu
>>> Backgrounder
>>> Use aklog
>>> get credential at login time (tried both settings)
>>>
>>> The AFS menu does not appear in the menu bar, and I am unable to
>>> successfully get a new token using the button in OpenAFS System Prefs. On
>>> the bright side, I no longer get a kernel panic when I turn AFS off.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> With regards,
>>>
>>> Melissa
>>> 
>>> Melissa A. Hines                        Director, Cornell Center for
>>> Materials Research
>>> Department of Chemistry Professor of Chemistry
>>>   and Chemical Biology         Voice/FAX: 607-255-3040
>>> Cornell University
>>>  http://www.chem.cornell.edu/mah11/
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Re: [OpenAFS] No AFS menu or authentication in OpenAFS 1.6.1pre4 for MacOS 10.7 (Lion)

[Chris Jones]

Hi,

I see the sdame as Melissa, and already have a bug report for this here

http://rt.central.org/rt/Ticket/Display.html?id=130618

Chris

On 26/03/12 23:44, Derrick Brashear wrote:

Do you have crash reports for AFSBackgrounder in
~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports
?


On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Melissa A. Hines
  wrote:

Because of the kernel panics on shutdown with OpenAFS 1.6.0 (a known bug), I 
upgraded to OpenAFS 1.6.1pre4 on Mac OS 10.7.3. I have enabled the following in 
the OpenAFS System Prefs:

Start AFS at boot (tried both settings)
AFS Menu
Backgrounder
Use aklog
get credential at login time (tried both settings)

The AFS menu does not appear in the menu bar, and I am unable to successfully 
get a new token using the button in OpenAFS System Prefs. On the bright side, I 
no longer get a kernel panic when I turn AFS off.

Any suggestions?

With regards,

Melissa

Melissa A. HinesDirector, Cornell Center for Materials 
Research
Department of Chemistry Professor of Chemistry
   and Chemical Biology Voice/FAX: 607-255-3040
Cornell University  http://www.chem.cornell.edu/mah11/

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