Re: [OpenAFS] Best Filesystem

2009-04-12 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Sonntag, 12. April 2009 10:01:22 schrieb Jason C. Wells:

 Amongst UFS2, EXT3, and ZFS, which is most recommended for use as a
 backing store for AFS?

UFS2 and ZFS are Solaris, EXT3 is Linux. What is your server OS?

 Which for the AFS client cache?

That depends on your client OS.

 I am considering adopting ZFS.

So your server OS is Solaris?

Bye...

Dirk
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Re: [OpenAFS] Best Filesystem

2009-04-12 Thread Jason C. Wells

Dirk Heinrichs wrote:

So your server OS is Solaris
No.  My server OS is debian. My client OS are FreeBSD, debian, XP.  Your 
assumption that file system suitability is determined purely by OS is 
limited.  ZFS appears to ready for prime time on BSD and Linux or it 
will be soon enough for me to start thinking about adopting it.


Regards,
Jason
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Re: [OpenAFS] Best Filesystem

2009-04-12 Thread Christopher D. Clausen

Jason C. Wells j...@highperformance.net wrote:

Dirk Heinrichs wrote:

So your server OS is Solaris


No.  My server OS is debian. My client OS are FreeBSD, debian, XP. 
Your assumption that file system suitability is determined purely by

OS is limited.  ZFS appears to ready for prime time on BSD and Linux
or it will be soon enough for me to start thinking about adopting it.


Your assumption is that just because an OS supports a filesystem, that 
OpenAFS will support it for a client cache.  This is not the case. 
Support for ZFS caches on Solaris does NOT mean that ZFS on Linux would 
work.


I'd stick with etx2/ext3 caches on Linux if I were you.

You are welcome to try it out, but I'm fairly certain you'll run into 
strange errors using ZFS on Linux as an afs cache partition.


CDC

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Re: [OpenAFS] Best Filesystem

2009-04-12 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Sonntag, 12. April 2009 18:15:59 schrieb Jason C. Wells:
 Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
  So your server OS is Solaris

 No.  My server OS is debian. My client OS are FreeBSD, debian, XP.  Your
 assumption that file system suitability is determined purely by OS is
 limited.

YMMV, but I would only use a filesystem that was originally developed for my OS 
or at least well tested on this OS, especially when it should store my 
valuable data.

 ZFS appears to ready for prime time on BSD and Linux or it
 will be soon enough for me to start thinking about adopting it.

Yes, there's something called ZFS for Linux. But that's a FUSE (Filesystem in 
USErspace) thing. That module is also in very early stages of development and 
its status page shows a lot of things which don't work, and some that will 
never work, due to FUSE limitations.

I'd say your chances will be better if you wait for another year and try 
btrfs, then (you can also try it now, with linux 2.6.29, but I would suggest 
to try it on test systems only).

So, on Linux as a server, use one of the big 4 (ext[23], xfs, reiser or jfs) 
for vice partitions. For Linux clients, use ext2.

For FreeBSD and XP, I don't know what's the best FS for the client cache.

Bye...

Dirk
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Re: [OpenAFS] Best Filesystem

2009-04-12 Thread Jason C. Wells

Christopher D. Clausen wrote:
Your assumption is that just because an OS supports a filesystem, that 
OpenAFS will support it for a client cache.  This is not the case. 
Support for ZFS caches on Solaris does NOT mean that ZFS on Linux 
would work.


I'd stick with etx2/ext3 caches on Linux if I were you.

You are welcome to try it out, but I'm fairly certain you'll run into 
strange errors using ZFS on Linux as an afs cache partition.

That's the sort of heads up that I was hoping to get.  Thanks!

Jason
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Re: [OpenAFS] Best Filesystem

2009-04-12 Thread Erik Dalén
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 10:01, Jason C. Wells j...@highperformance.net wrote:
 Amongst UFS2, EXT3, and ZFS, which is most recommended for use as a backing
 store for AFS?  Which for the AFS client cache?

 I am considering adopting ZFS.  I have read some favorable comments in the
 archives about ZFS.  Is there a killer feature that makes ZFS
 suitable/unsuitable for AFS use?


On a related note, has anyone tried out ext4 partitions on Linux as
client cache or file server partitions?

-- 
Erik Dalén
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