Re: [Open Babel] Weighted-rotor search

2012-07-14 Thread Geoffrey Hutchison


> mol = openbabel.OBMol()
> cv = openbabel.OBConversion()
> cv.SetInAndOutFormats('smi', outfile_type)
> cv.ReadString(mol, smiles_string)
> mol.AddHydrogens()
> ff = openbabel.OBForceField.FindForceField("MMFF94")
# so far this has done nothing
ff.SteepestDescent(1500, 1.0e-4)
ff.WeightedRotorSearch(250, 25)
ff.ConjugateGradients(2500, 1.0e-6)
# now we've updated the coordinates internal to the ff object
> ff.GetCoordinates(mol)

Hope that helps,
-Geoff


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[Open Babel] Fwd: OB writing non-standard atom types?

2012-07-14 Thread Douglas Houston
Just to follow up on this, can someone please try to replicate the  
problem for me using the attached files?



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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 16:50:03 +0100
From: Douglas Houston 
 Subject: [Open Babel] OB writing non-standard atom types?
  To: openbabel-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net

Hi all,

I've been trying to convert the attached in.pdb file to .mol2 format.   
I happened to be using the -p option:


babel -ipdb in.pdb -omol2 out_p.mol2 -p 7.4

This produces a file that babel chokes on if used as input:

babel -imol2 out_p.mol2 -opdb

==
*** Open Babel Warning  in Translate
  Cannot perform atom type translation: table cannot find requested types.
==
*** Open Babel Warning  in ReadMolecule
  This Mol2 file is non-standard. Problem with molecule: in.pdb   
Cannot interpret atom types correctly, instead attempting to interpret  
 atom type: C.cat1490 as elements instead.

==
*** Open Babel Warning  in Translate
  Cannot perform atom type translation: table cannot find requested types.

Atom 1 in the mol2 file has been assigned as type C.cat, which   
presumably is causing the problem.


This atom is assigned type C.2 if I use the following command:

babel -ipdb in.pdb -omol2 out_h.mol2 -h

Is it that babel expects a space between the C.cat and the 1490?

If so, that still doesn't explain why I get different atom type   
assignments using -p vs. -h.  I know I can't use -p if I want the   
charges in the output to be sensible (I assign them separately later),  
 but it's now looking like the -p option will also change atom types  
...


Is it simply that the -p option is fully broken and I should just stop  
 using it?


cheers,

Doug


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in.pdb
Description: x-unknown/pdb


out_p.mol2
Description: Binary data


out_h.mol2
Description: Binary data
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Re: [Open Babel] (no subject)

2012-07-14 Thread Geoffrey Hutchison

> I think I'm using the latter and other hydrogens are added, but not the one I 
> mentioned.  Using version 2.3.

Ah. I just looked through the gen3d code to see why this is happening:

>   pmol->AddHydrogens(false, true); // Add some hydrogens before running MMFF

So if you're using code, you want to run gen3d and *then* add hydrogens again 
to re-protonate the OH with existing versions of libopenbabel. I'm not sure if 
this is the appropriate default for gen3d, since it might violate the principle 
of least surprise. (Certainly it surprised you.)

Thoughts? Should the default gen3d use the pH model corrections for adding 
hydrogens?

-Geoff
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Re: [Open Babel] (no subject)

2012-07-14 Thread James Jack
I think I'm using the latter and other hydrogens are added, but not the one I 
mentioned.  Using version 2.3.

Best Regards,

James

-Original Message-
From: Chris Morley [mailto:c.mor...@gaseq.co.uk]
Sent: 13 July 2012 14:52
To: James Jack
Cc: openbabel-disc...@lists.sf.net
Subject: Re: [Open Babel] (no subject)

On 11/07/2012 18:51, James Jack wrote:
>
> When I convert this to a 3D molfile with "add explicit H" checked in
> the OpenBabel GUI or I try the same in code the OH seems to become O-
> (O with a negative charge).
>
In the GUI you need to check "Add hydrogens (make explicit)" but have the 
editbox labelled "Add hydrogens appropriate for this pH" on the next line empty.

In code something like
  pMol->AddHydrogens(false, false);

But this may not be necessary.

If you use "Generate 3D coordinates" in the GUI or something like
  OBOp* pOp = OBOp::FindType("gen3D");
  if(pOp)
   pOp->Do(pMol);
in code, explicit hydrogens are added automatically.

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