Re: 8G RAM on 32 bits
On 2012-08-01, Pau wrote: >:) > > Thanks for the help... I installed it and the 8G RAM are there (see > head of dmesg ahead). > > I have another question... I have this big monitor (30"!) and I would > like to use the displayport but X does not seem to understand it, > because when I use the displayport cable the monitor is black. With > VGA I get it to work but at a much smaller resolution. If the machine also has Windows on, it would be worth checking the cable works there, there are all sorts of displayport cables (active/passive and various other options) and it's easy to get the wrong one. > The monitor has also HDMI (although the laptop does not). Would the > quality any better if I used an adapter to plug a HDMI cable to the > VGA port of the laptop? I'm using the displayport connector on an X220 connecting to the DVI connector on an old-ish dell monitor, I have a script which does these which I use when I dock to enable the external monitor and disable the internal one. This took a bit of working out, there is an easier way but something went wrong with it, iirc I lost the cursor or something. xrandr --output HDMI-3 --right-of LVDS --auto xrandr --output LVDS --off In any event xrandr is the first command to investigate when you want to adjust display options like this. That's with this: vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Intel HD Graphics 3000" rev 0x09 Probed in Xorg.0.log like this [14.574] (II) intel(0): Integrated Graphics Chipset: Intel(R) Sandybridge Mobile (GT2+) Full dmesg looks like this, OpenBSD 5.2-current (GENERIC.MP) #38: Tue Jul 31 17:26:23 BST 2012 st...@bamboo.spacehopper.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP real mem = 8466853888 (8074MB) avail mem = 8219095040 (7838MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.6 @ 0xdae9c000 (66 entries) bios0: vendor LENOVO version "8DET61WW (1.31 )" date 04/25/2012 bios0: LENOVO 4287CTO acpi0 at bios0: rev 2 acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SLIC SSDT SSDT SSDT HPET APIC MCFG ECDT ASF! TCPA SSDT SSDT UEFI UEFI UEFI acpi0: wakeup devices LID_(S3) SLPB(S3) IGBE(S4) EXP4(S4) EXP7(S4) EHC1(S3) EHC2(S3) HDEF(S4) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2640M CPU @ 2.80GHz, 2791.31 MHz cpu0: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,PCLMUL,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,POPCNT,AES,XSAVE,AVX,NXE,LONG,LAHF cpu0: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache cpu0: apic clock running at 99MHz cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor) cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2640M CPU @ 2.80GHz, 2790.94 MHz cpu1: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,PCLMUL,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,POPCNT,AES,XSAVE,AVX,NXE,LONG,LAHF cpu1: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 2 (application processor) cpu2: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2640M CPU @ 2.80GHz, 2790.93 MHz cpu2: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,PCLMUL,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,POPCNT,AES,XSAVE,AVX,NXE,LONG,LAHF cpu2: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 3 (application processor) cpu3: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2640M CPU @ 2.80GHz, 2790.94 MHz cpu3: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,PCLMUL,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,POPCNT,AES,XSAVE,AVX,NXE,LONG,LAHF cpu3: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins acpimcfg0 at acpi0 addr 0xf800, bus 0-63 acpiec0 at acpi0 acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEG_) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 2 (EXP1) acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 3 (EXP2) acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 5 (EXP4) acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus 13 (EXP5) acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 14 (EXP7) acpicpu0 at acpi0: C3, C1, PSS acpicpu1 at acpi0: C3, C1, PSS acpicpu2 at acpi0: C3, C1, PSS acpicpu3 at acpi0: C3, C1, PSS acpipwrres0 at acpi0: PUBS acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature is 99 degC acpibtn0 at acpi0: LID_ acpibtn1 at acpi0: SLPB acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT0 model "42T4861" serial 12519 type LION oem "SANYO" acpibat1 at acpi0: BAT1 not present acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit online acpithinkpad0 at acpi0 acpidock0 at acpi0: GDCK not docked (0) cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 2791 MHz: speeds: 2801, 2800, 2600, 2400, 2200, 2000, 1800, 1600, 1400, 1200, 1000, 800 MHz pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0 pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel Core 2G Host" rev 0x09 vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Intel HD Graphics 3000" rev 0x09 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulatio
Re: 8G RAM on 32 bits
:) Thanks for the help... I installed it and the 8G RAM are there (see head of dmesg ahead). I have another question... I have this big monitor (30"!) and I would like to use the displayport but X does not seem to understand it, because when I use the displayport cable the monitor is black. With VGA I get it to work but at a much smaller resolution. The monitor has also HDMI (although the laptop does not). Would the quality any better if I used an adapter to plug a HDMI cable to the VGA port of the laptop? In any case, thanks! $ dmesg | head OpenBSD 5.2 (RAMDISK_CD) #118: Mon Jul 30 16:31:14 MDT 2012 dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/RAMDISK_CD real mem = 8466853888 (8074MB) avail mem = 8221462528 (7840MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.6 @ 0xdae9c000 (68 entries) bios0: vendor LENOVO version "8DET56WW (1.26 )" date 12/01/2011 bios0: LENOVO 42914BG acpi0 at bios0: rev 2 acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5 On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Pau wrote: > Thanks... > > I am downloading a recent snapshot and will try to do a clean install > with the amd64. > > I will keep you posted. > > Cheers, > > Pau > > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Peter Hessler wrote: >> All i7's are 64bit compatible. >> >> If you can try a new kernel (bsd.rd should be enough), then you can try >> it out and see if it boots. ___ Openbsd-newbies mailing list Openbsd-newbies@sfobug.theapt.org http://mailman.theapt.org/listinfo/openbsd-newbies
Re: 8G RAM on 32 bits
Thanks... I am downloading a recent snapshot and will try to do a clean install with the amd64. I will keep you posted. Cheers, Pau On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Peter Hessler wrote: > All i7's are 64bit compatible. > > If you can try a new kernel (bsd.rd should be enough), then you can try > it out and see if it boots. > > If it does boot, it is highly recommended to do a clean install. While > it is possible to upgrade from i386 to amd64 this is not recommended as > it is easy to miss some bits and add some problems to your system. > > > On 2012 Jul 31 (Tue) at 12:04:26 +0200 (+0200), Pau wrote: > :Hi, > : > :thanks for the answer. > : > :This is a Sandybridge Mobile "Intel® Core™ i7-2640M CPU @ 2.80GHz × 4 " > : > :How can I find out whether this is 64 bit-capable? > : > :I have googled but not very successfully... I am afraid I am also > :newbie in the tech jargon... > : > :Pau > : > :On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Mike Erdely wrote: > :> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Pau wrote: > :>> I thought the same and downloaded the amd64 CD and tried to install it > :>> but it would not boot. In my ignorance I supposed that it would be > :>> impossible for a 32 bits CPU to do that, so I threw away the CD. > :> > :> More than likely, that means your CPU is 32-bit. But, you could post > :> a dmesg(8) if you didn't think you could figure that out and someone > :> else could tell you if you have a 64-bit capable CPU. > :> > :> -ME > :___ > :Openbsd-newbies mailing list > :Openbsd-newbies@sfobug.theapt.org > :http://mailman.theapt.org/listinfo/openbsd-newbies > : > > -- > Q: Do you know what the death rate around here is? > A: One per person. ___ Openbsd-newbies mailing list Openbsd-newbies@sfobug.theapt.org http://mailman.theapt.org/listinfo/openbsd-newbies
Re: 8G RAM on 32 bits
All i7's are 64bit compatible. If you can try a new kernel (bsd.rd should be enough), then you can try it out and see if it boots. If it does boot, it is highly recommended to do a clean install. While it is possible to upgrade from i386 to amd64 this is not recommended as it is easy to miss some bits and add some problems to your system. On 2012 Jul 31 (Tue) at 12:04:26 +0200 (+0200), Pau wrote: :Hi, : :thanks for the answer. : :This is a Sandybridge Mobile "Intel® Core™ i7-2640M CPU @ 2.80GHz × 4 " : :How can I find out whether this is 64 bit-capable? : :I have googled but not very successfully... I am afraid I am also :newbie in the tech jargon... : :Pau : :On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Mike Erdely wrote: :> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Pau wrote: :>> I thought the same and downloaded the amd64 CD and tried to install it :>> but it would not boot. In my ignorance I supposed that it would be :>> impossible for a 32 bits CPU to do that, so I threw away the CD. :> :> More than likely, that means your CPU is 32-bit. But, you could post :> a dmesg(8) if you didn't think you could figure that out and someone :> else could tell you if you have a 64-bit capable CPU. :> :> -ME :___ :Openbsd-newbies mailing list :Openbsd-newbies@sfobug.theapt.org :http://mailman.theapt.org/listinfo/openbsd-newbies : -- Q: Do you know what the death rate around here is? A: One per person. ___ Openbsd-newbies mailing list Openbsd-newbies@sfobug.theapt.org http://mailman.theapt.org/listinfo/openbsd-newbies
Re: 8G RAM on 32 bits
Hi, thanks for the answer. This is a Sandybridge Mobile "Intel® Core™ i7-2640M CPU @ 2.80GHz × 4 " How can I find out whether this is 64 bit-capable? I have googled but not very successfully... I am afraid I am also newbie in the tech jargon... Pau On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Mike Erdely wrote: > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Pau wrote: >> I thought the same and downloaded the amd64 CD and tried to install it >> but it would not boot. In my ignorance I supposed that it would be >> impossible for a 32 bits CPU to do that, so I threw away the CD. > > More than likely, that means your CPU is 32-bit. But, you could post > a dmesg(8) if you didn't think you could figure that out and someone > else could tell you if you have a 64-bit capable CPU. > > -ME ___ Openbsd-newbies mailing list Openbsd-newbies@sfobug.theapt.org http://mailman.theapt.org/listinfo/openbsd-newbies
Re: 8G RAM on 32 bits
On 2012-07-30, Pau wrote: > Hi, > > I have this thinkpad laptop and I want to use OpenBSD on it. > > Now, the laptop has 8G RAM and it is a 32 bits. If you mean that the CPU can only support 32 bits, you won't be able to see the extra RAM with OpenBSD. There was some code implemented several years ago that took steps towards supporting this, but it caused some rather nasty hangs on 64-bit AMD CPUs running i386 that took quite some time to track down..this is very fiddly delicate code. ___ Openbsd-newbies mailing list Openbsd-newbies@sfobug.theapt.org http://mailman.theapt.org/listinfo/openbsd-newbies
Re: 8G RAM on 32 bits
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Pau wrote: > I thought the same and downloaded the amd64 CD and tried to install it > but it would not boot. In my ignorance I supposed that it would be > impossible for a 32 bits CPU to do that, so I threw away the CD. More than likely, that means your CPU is 32-bit. But, you could post a dmesg(8) if you didn't think you could figure that out and someone else could tell you if you have a 64-bit capable CPU. -ME ___ Openbsd-newbies mailing list Openbsd-newbies@sfobug.theapt.org http://mailman.theapt.org/listinfo/openbsd-newbies
Re: 8G RAM on 32 bits
Depending on why the amd64 cd didn't boot, you might be out of luck. If it stopped during the kernel, then likely not. No, amd64 kernel is not compatible with any of the 32bit binaries. We only support apps using the kernel memory sizes. On 2012 Jul 30 (Mon) at 21:35:00 +0200 (+0200), Pau wrote: :Thanks, Peter... : :I thought the same and downloaded the amd64 CD and tried to install it :but it would not boot. In my ignorance I supposed that it would be :impossible for a 32 bits CPU to do that, so I threw away the CD. : :Or are you suggesting that I install i386 and then download the amd64 :kernel and boot from it later? Will that be compatible with all the :installed software (I install the precompiled binaries instead of :using ports). : :Thanks for the feedback. I really appreciate it. : :Pau : -- "The wages of sin are death; but after they're done taking out taxes, it's just a tired feeling:" ___ Openbsd-newbies mailing list Openbsd-newbies@sfobug.theapt.org http://mailman.theapt.org/listinfo/openbsd-newbies
Re: 8G RAM on 32 bits
Thanks, Peter... I thought the same and downloaded the amd64 CD and tried to install it but it would not boot. In my ignorance I supposed that it would be impossible for a 32 bits CPU to do that, so I threw away the CD. Or are you suggesting that I install i386 and then download the amd64 kernel and boot from it later? Will that be compatible with all the installed software (I install the precompiled binaries instead of using ports). Thanks for the feedback. I really appreciate it. Pau ___ Openbsd-newbies mailing list Openbsd-newbies@sfobug.theapt.org http://mailman.theapt.org/listinfo/openbsd-newbies
Re: 8G RAM on 32 bits
Nope. OpenBSD does not support PAE. If you want to access all 8G, you will need to use the amd64 kernel. Sorry. On 2012 Jul 30 (Mon) at 20:49:31 +0200 (+0200), Pau wrote: :Hi, : :I have this thinkpad laptop and I want to use OpenBSD on it. : :Now, the laptop has 8G RAM and it is a 32 bits. : :I would like to know whether open can see them. : :On linux (sorry!) I know there's a "patched" kernel called PAE that :allows the OS to see the RAM (at least it shows up on a "top"). : :Is there something like this for OpenBSD? : :Thanks... : :newbiely yours, : :Pau :___ :Openbsd-newbies mailing list :Openbsd-newbies@sfobug.theapt.org :http://mailman.theapt.org/listinfo/openbsd-newbies : -- The Roman Rule The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it. ___ Openbsd-newbies mailing list Openbsd-newbies@sfobug.theapt.org http://mailman.theapt.org/listinfo/openbsd-newbies
