Re: [opencog-dev] Adapting Opencog

2016-12-16 Thread ravi . desaraju 
Thanks Nil, Started working on OpenCog. Will let you know if there is any 
help required. 

Regards
Ravi Krishna.

On Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 11:01:59 AM UTC+5:30, Nil wrote:
>
> Hi, 
>
> On 12/13/2016 02:27 PM, ravi.d...@ramyamlab.com  wrote: 
> > Hi Nil, Thank you for your response. 
> > 
> > We want to create software robots which can think of customer/ business 
> > problems and provide solutions or act on those problems. We are trying 
> > to evaluate OpenCog from development perspective to build such platform. 
> > Can we adapt this as our development framework? 
>
> You certainly can. Of course OpenCog is still in the making so you'll 
> have to keep up with updates or fix whatever you need to, or ask us. The 
> opencog-ish way to do what you want is to define goals and behavior for 
> your software robots as a set of OpenPsi rules, as well as assemble IO, 
> learning and reasoning agents so your system fulfils these goals 
> intelligently. 
>
> > 
> > Also, i am trying to install openCog to get the feel of the framework, 
> > but not successful. Could you provide me some help here as well. I am 
> > using a centos server and only dowloaded opencog files till now. How to 
> > proceed next? 
>
> See 
>
> http://wiki.opencog.org/w/Building_OpenCog 
>
> BTW, I'm running OpenCog on Ubuntu 16.10, however I don't use these 
> tools for installing it, report any problems you may have. 
>
> > 
> > Is there any reading material available apart from wiki docs? 
>
> The documentation is also in the making, we don't have yet a nice and 
> uniform documentation like for say the Python language or the Boost 
> library, so the Wiki, READMEs in the code are the main sources of 
> documentation you'll currently find. We also have documentation 
> generated by doxygen here http://wiki.opencog.org/w/Code_documentation 
> but it's currently broken. 
>
> Nil 
>
> > 
> > Thanks 
> > Ravi Krishna. 
> > 
> > 
> > On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 12:24:08 PM UTC+5:30, Nil wrote: 
> > 
> > Hi, 
> > 
> > On 12/12/2016 08:35 AM, Ravi Krishna wrote: 
> >  > Hi, 
> >  > 
> >  > We are trying to build a cognitve platform. Please help me in 
> >  > understanding how open and flexible is openCog to use. What are 
> the 
> > 
> > OpenCog is as open as it can get. Regarding flexibility, sure it 
> could 
> > be better, for instance ideally truth and attentional values would 
> be 
> > proto atoms and people should be able to ignore them or replace them 
> if 
> > they want to. Of course they can be ignored but the API doesn't look 
> at 
> > lean as it could as a result, and the kind of mutable data an atom 
> can 
> > hold is very limited (you can always make it up by unfolding that 
> data 
> > into hypergraphs, but it introduces overheads). 
> > 
> >  > features we can leverage and can we customize and write our own 
> > code on 
> >  > top of this based on our requirements. 
> > 
> > You totally can, as long as your needs meet what OpenCog can offer. 
> > Have 
> > a look at the examples in the atomspace and opencog repositories to 
> get 
> > some ideas. 
> > 
> > You also may want to look at https://github.com/hansonrobotics/HEAD 
> >  
> > which is I believe the biggest project using the opencog framework. 
> > 
> > If you tell us a bit more what you want to do with OpenCog we could 
> > help 
> > you to evaluate how adequate it is and how much work is needed to 
> > leverage it. 
> > 
> > Nil 
> > 
> >  > 
> >  > Thanks in advance for your help. 
> >  > 
> >  > Regards 
> >  > Ravi Krishna. 
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Re: [opencog-dev] Adapting Opencog

2016-12-14 Thread 'Nil Geisweiller' via opencog 

Hi,

On 12/13/2016 02:27 PM, ravi.desar...@ramyamlab.com wrote:

Hi Nil, Thank you for your response.

We want to create software robots which can think of customer/ business
problems and provide solutions or act on those problems. We are trying
to evaluate OpenCog from development perspective to build such platform.
Can we adapt this as our development framework?


You certainly can. Of course OpenCog is still in the making so you'll 
have to keep up with updates or fix whatever you need to, or ask us. The 
opencog-ish way to do what you want is to define goals and behavior for 
your software robots as a set of OpenPsi rules, as well as assemble IO, 
learning and reasoning agents so your system fulfils these goals 
intelligently.




Also, i am trying to install openCog to get the feel of the framework,
but not successful. Could you provide me some help here as well. I am
using a centos server and only dowloaded opencog files till now. How to
proceed next?


See

http://wiki.opencog.org/w/Building_OpenCog

BTW, I'm running OpenCog on Ubuntu 16.10, however I don't use these 
tools for installing it, report any problems you may have.




Is there any reading material available apart from wiki docs?


The documentation is also in the making, we don't have yet a nice and 
uniform documentation like for say the Python language or the Boost 
library, so the Wiki, READMEs in the code are the main sources of 
documentation you'll currently find. We also have documentation 
generated by doxygen here http://wiki.opencog.org/w/Code_documentation 
but it's currently broken.


Nil



Thanks
Ravi Krishna.


On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 12:24:08 PM UTC+5:30, Nil wrote:

Hi,

On 12/12/2016 08:35 AM, Ravi Krishna wrote:
 > Hi,
 >
 > We are trying to build a cognitve platform. Please help me in
 > understanding how open and flexible is openCog to use. What are the

OpenCog is as open as it can get. Regarding flexibility, sure it could
be better, for instance ideally truth and attentional values would be
proto atoms and people should be able to ignore them or replace them if
they want to. Of course they can be ignored but the API doesn't look at
lean as it could as a result, and the kind of mutable data an atom can
hold is very limited (you can always make it up by unfolding that data
into hypergraphs, but it introduces overheads).

 > features we can leverage and can we customize and write our own
code on
 > top of this based on our requirements.

You totally can, as long as your needs meet what OpenCog can offer.
Have
a look at the examples in the atomspace and opencog repositories to get
some ideas.

You also may want to look at https://github.com/hansonrobotics/HEAD

which is I believe the biggest project using the opencog framework.

If you tell us a bit more what you want to do with OpenCog we could
help
you to evaluate how adequate it is and how much work is needed to
leverage it.

Nil

 >
 > Thanks in advance for your help.
 >
 > Regards
 > Ravi Krishna.
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Re: [opencog-dev] Adapting Opencog

2016-12-13 Thread ravi . desaraju 
Hi Nil, Thank you for your response. 

We want to create software robots which can think of customer/ business 
problems and provide solutions or act on those problems. We are trying to 
evaluate OpenCog from development perspective to build such platform. Can 
we adapt this as our development framework? 

Also, i am trying to install openCog to get the feel of the framework, but 
not successful. Could you provide me some help here as well. I am using a 
centos server and only dowloaded opencog files till now. How to proceed 
next?

Is there any reading material available apart from wiki docs? 

Thanks
Ravi Krishna.


On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 12:24:08 PM UTC+5:30, Nil wrote:
>
> Hi, 
>
> On 12/12/2016 08:35 AM, Ravi Krishna wrote: 
> > Hi, 
> > 
> > We are trying to build a cognitve platform. Please help me in 
> > understanding how open and flexible is openCog to use. What are the 
>
> OpenCog is as open as it can get. Regarding flexibility, sure it could 
> be better, for instance ideally truth and attentional values would be 
> proto atoms and people should be able to ignore them or replace them if 
> they want to. Of course they can be ignored but the API doesn't look at 
> lean as it could as a result, and the kind of mutable data an atom can 
> hold is very limited (you can always make it up by unfolding that data 
> into hypergraphs, but it introduces overheads). 
>
> > features we can leverage and can we customize and write our own code on 
> > top of this based on our requirements. 
>
> You totally can, as long as your needs meet what OpenCog can offer. Have 
> a look at the examples in the atomspace and opencog repositories to get 
> some ideas. 
>
> You also may want to look at https://github.com/hansonrobotics/HEAD 
> which is I believe the biggest project using the opencog framework. 
>
> If you tell us a bit more what you want to do with OpenCog we could help 
> you to evaluate how adequate it is and how much work is needed to 
> leverage it. 
>
> Nil 
>
> > 
> > Thanks in advance for your help. 
> > 
> > Regards 
> > Ravi Krishna. 
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Re: [opencog-dev] Adapting Opencog

2016-12-11 Thread 'Nil Geisweiller' via opencog 

Hi,

On 12/12/2016 08:35 AM, Ravi Krishna wrote:

Hi,

We are trying to build a cognitve platform. Please help me in
understanding how open and flexible is openCog to use. What are the


OpenCog is as open as it can get. Regarding flexibility, sure it could 
be better, for instance ideally truth and attentional values would be 
proto atoms and people should be able to ignore them or replace them if 
they want to. Of course they can be ignored but the API doesn't look at 
lean as it could as a result, and the kind of mutable data an atom can 
hold is very limited (you can always make it up by unfolding that data 
into hypergraphs, but it introduces overheads).



features we can leverage and can we customize and write our own code on
top of this based on our requirements.


You totally can, as long as your needs meet what OpenCog can offer. Have 
a look at the examples in the atomspace and opencog repositories to get 
some ideas.


You also may want to look at https://github.com/hansonrobotics/HEAD 
which is I believe the biggest project using the opencog framework.


If you tell us a bit more what you want to do with OpenCog we could help 
you to evaluate how adequate it is and how much work is needed to 
leverage it.


Nil



Thanks in advance for your help.

Regards
Ravi Krishna.

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