How about creating an openEHR test base?
Hi Pablo, Seref and all, I think many implementation on the same API would make competitive and innovative environment. While re-invention of wheel is considered as waste of time, implementation by many ways sometimes makes innovation. Ruby on Rails is a web development framework, which affect many development framework, but web frameworks has been generated before/after RoR. All of them aim to product Web with ease, but approaches are not same. I am glad to have such environment with you on the openEHR. Licensing is a sensitive matter to share artefacts. It subjects not only code bases, but also on API like Oracle/Google issues. However, my artefacts are under Apache 2.0 or other open licenses. Cheers, Shinji. 2012/5/11 pablo pazos pazospablo at hotmail.com: Hi guys, Seref, I was thinking a lot about what you said There are various bits of functionality implemented in different projects..., and that rang a bell somewhere. I think we are implementing the same things again and again because the technology we choose can't handle what is already implemented, and I believe this is a great opportunity to start creating common services providing this funcionality to our systems, so we only implement service clients not the same functionality in an alternative way. There is a great deal of functionality developed by Rong company (and other projects, .Net, Ruby, ...), and some of the functionality can be exposed as public services somewhere (like archetype flattening, AOM 2 ADL serialization, RM 2 XML serialization, etc.). Is there some posibility that the foundation could host those services? What do you think? I'm willing to dedicate time to this, because I think this will be beneficial for all (also for creating the proposed test set that started this topic). -- Kind regards, Ing. Pablo Pazos Guti?rrez LinkedIn: http://uy.linkedin.com/in/pablopazosgutierrez Blog: http://informatica-medica.blogspot.com/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/ppazos Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 08:52:04 +0100 Subject: Re: How about creating an openEHR test base? From: serefarikan at kurumsalteknoloji.com To: openehr-technical at lists.openehr.org Interesting point again. There are various bits of functionality implemented in different projects, but the projects have different open source licences. I'm not Rong of course, but his code uses mpl, and since I've used his code when I started Operaffa, Opereffa is mpl too (though it'll be apache very soon). So you'd need to check how licensing issues need to be handled if you use Rong's code, assuming your work is not under mpl. I think you've touched another important point Pablo Kind regards Seref On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 10:37 PM, pablo pazos pazospablo at hotmail.com wrote: Hi Rong, That's great news, but we have our own RM implementation because it handles ORM too. But I think I can adapt your xml-binding component to use our RM impl, what do you think? -- Kind regards, Ing. Pablo Pazos Guti?rrez LinkedIn: http://uy.linkedin.com/in/pablopazosgutierrez Blog: http://informatica-medica.blogspot.com/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/ppazos Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 21:08:57 +0200 Subject: Re: How about creating an openEHR test base? From: rong.acode at gmail.com To: openehr-technical at lists.openehr.org On 7 May 2012 16:39, pablo pazos pazospablo at hotmail.com wrote: Hi Seref, I've a tool that generates composition instances from archetypes and data, what I don't have is a way to generate a valid XML form from those compositions. Hi Pablo, The xml-binding component in the Java reference implementation does just that. It binds RM object instance to generated XML objects that can be serialized according to published XSD. /Rong ___ openEHR-technical mailing list openEHR-technical at lists.openehr.org http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org ___ openEHR-technical mailing list openEHR-technical at lists.openehr.org http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org ___ openEHR-technical mailing list openEHR-technical at lists.openehr.org http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org
How about creating an openEHR test base?
again. There are various bits of functionality implemented in different projects, but the projects have different open source licences. I'm not Rong of course, but his code uses mpl, and since I've used his code when I started Operaffa, Opereffa is mpl too (though it'll be apache very soon). So you'd need to check how licensing issues need to be handled if you use Rong's code, assuming your work is not under mpl. I think you've touched another important point Pablo Kind regards Seref On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 10:37 PM, pablo pazos pazospablo at hotmail.com wrote: Hi Rong, That's great news, but we have our own RM implementation because it handles ORM too. But I think I can adapt your xml-binding component to use our RM impl, what do you think? -- Kind regards, Ing. Pablo Pazos Guti?rrez LinkedIn: http://uy.linkedin.com/in/pablopazosgutierrez Blog: http://informatica-medica.blogspot.com/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/ppazos Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 21:08:57 +0200 Subject: Re: How about creating an openEHR test base? From: rong.acode at gmail.com To: openehr-technical at lists.openehr.org On 7 May 2012 16:39, pablo pazos pazospablo at hotmail.com wrote: Hi Seref, I've a tool that generates composition instances from archetypes and data, what I don't have is a way to generate a valid XML form from those compositions. Hi Pablo, The xml-binding component in the Java reference implementation does just that. It binds RM object instance to generated XML objects that can be serialized according to published XSD. /Rong ___ openEHR-technical mailing list openEHR-technical at lists.openehr.org http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org ___ openEHR-technical mailing list openEHR-technical at lists.openehr.org http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org ___ openEHR-technical mailing list openEHR-technical at lists.openehr.org http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org ___ openEHR-technical mailing list openEHR-technical at lists.openehr.org http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org ___ openEHR-technical mailing list openEHR-technical at lists.openehr.org http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openehr.org/pipermail/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org/attachments/20120512/288e351d/attachment-0001.html
How about creating an openEHR test base?
Hi Carola, Dear All, I have been reading all the posting from all the internacional community of openehr.It is confusing at times and some clarity appears too. My contribution is in regards to Just to let you know my personal agenda :D I need to do this to encourage openEHR adoption here in South America From my perspective: Brasil is already encouraging the use of openehr and others countries are using too, specially from a public and collective benefits. And that's a good start, but we all want to collaborate to get further adoption in public, private and education areas too. The conflict of interest is when PERSONALLY this knowledge is used as a product to sell and make money transfer from a collective good without an aggremment. At some point adoption means that someone has to do some work, and that work takes time of someones life, someone that has to eat, pay bills, etc. So money will be always involved in this kinds of things, these are the rules of the game... someone has to work and someone has to pay, and what is created in the middle should be something of value for many people, that's the only sustainable approach I can think. I'll be very happy if someone can think of something better, in the mean time I'll keep working forward adoption with a sustainable approach. I've talked a lot about the adoption problems of openEHR, and we always fall into the funding problem. And that's a problem: we don't have a sustainable approach to adoption. For example, in Chile, a course was offered to the members with a cost, great beginning. I was very happy that THE ENCOURAGEMENT STARTED..however, the approach used last year confused the collective groups since at this side of the world (Chile) , the archetypes were introduced at the goverment level in 2006 by ocean informatics as a powerful tool of integration ( with a very different level of wisdom). I think you know that I've created that course, and this is the first time I heard about any confusion. For the student recommendations (see my linkedin profile) and outputs we received (http://informatica-medica.blogspot.com/2012/01/conclusiones-del-curso-de-openehr-en.html) I don't think they where confused at all, and ACHISA (http://achisa.org) members where very happy about that course adn they encourage me to give a second edition (what I'm doing right now, with a very good reception by students). So, my recommendation for this area of developing countries is to provide some encouragement BUT always engaged with the wisdom first, meaning if we all want openehr to be successful ensure a strong collaboration at SELLING POINT, that is the add value of openehr. When a PERSONAL wish cross the collective good, there is room for error as expect but when previous work is not acknowledge in the same country, you will run to RESISTANT that is what is happening in Latino America and Caribe. Don't take me wrong, but IMO you are confusing various concepts here, about what I want to do and how to do it. I think others (who know me, my work and how I work) don't think the same way. First of all, this is not a political discusion, is about what we need to do to get things done, and what resources we need to have that done. Second, my personal intentions are meant for a collective good, as an example I take money from the course I gave, to create an openEHR portal in spanish, and I've done all the work to put it online (including software development, community management, etc...). I also ask the openEHR community BEFORE doing anything, like the openEHR course, and everyone encourages it and I never receive any complain about it. As I see it, that's a declaration of intention, and the community gave me their approval. I'm always willing to give everyone the guarantees they need. Third, I'm always encouraging collaboration and doing things together, but in South America there is a resistances before start, the problem is the political part, not the technical, and I'm a technician trying to convince politicians. And just to be clear: I don't sell software: almost all my projects are open source, I don't work for a company or organization: I'm an independent researcher developer, from time to time I help companies to get things done, and I love to teach: bring what I learn to the community. I would like to know the community opinions about this topic, as I don't want to step in anyone's shoe. Kind regards,Pablo. Cheers Carol IMIA LAC President,PhD, Post Doc Health Informatics -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openehr.org/pipermail/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org/attachments/20120512/2ed844d0/attachment-0001.html
