Re: INFORMATION ABOUT THE SYSTEM

[Ian McNicoll]

Hi,

If this seems scary and confusing, that is normal

Essentially openEHR is a specification that allows people to build health
data repositories that are vendor and technology-neutral. openEHR CDRs are
very flexible health datastores that can immediately store and query new
kinds of clinical data, without any re-programming or database
reconfiguration.

As an implementer of e.g a rare disease registry application, you would
upload definitions of the data you need using 'templates' themselves built
of open-source 'archetypes' e.g blood pressure, lab test.

We are actually involved in helping build a very extensive Rare disease
register in the UK as part of a Genomics England project and are starting
to share our models at
http://clinicalmodels.org.uk/ckm/#showProject_1051.61.28. The whole of this
http://www.xmind.net/m/ZvDB dataset has now been modelled in openEHR and we
will be uploading it to the UK CKM site over the next couple of weeks.

To make use of these you need to get access to an openEHR CDR (Clinical
data repository). There are a number of commercial products available and
at least two high quality open-source engines.

You should definitely explore Pablo's Cabolabs CDR
https://github.com/ppazos/ and
the EtherCis CDR https://github.com/ethercis/ethercis

I can also arrange access to a free cloud-hosted CDR via the NHS
Code4Health program, for demo use only.
https://code4health.org/platform

For an overview of openEHR
https://www.slideshare.net/OceanInformatics/smart-data-smarter-healthcare

For an overview of  the clinical modelling aspects:
https://www.slideshare.net/OceanInformatics/smart-data-smarter-healthcare

and Pablo has some great presentations on the technical aspects of CDRs but
you almost certainly do not want to try to build your own
https://www.slideshare.net/pablitox/design-and-implementation-of-clinical-databases-using-openehr?qid=87811c0b-44fb-434d-9123-79793add44ba&v=&b=&from_search=1

Hope this helps - more information on your project would help us point you
in the right direction.

Ian



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On 21 February 2017 at 19:34, STAMATAKI-LOUKATOU GERASIMOULA <
gstam...@uth.gr> wrote:

> Thank you all for your immediate response.
>
> For example can I use openEHR to build a database for a rare disease ?
> So, I can use whatever language suits my need if I understand correct?
> I really do not have any experience.
>
> Quoting Alejandro Benavides :
>
> It totally validates your questions, more when you enter the world of
>> standards, and the lack of experts with assertive answers (something that
>> is weak in this group), but that "another topic."
>>
>> Really openEHR as other standards do not have specified which programming
>> language, database, network infrastructure, etc. should be used, this
>> depends on the type of need you present.
>>
>> I agree to ask the question to the group as there is very little
>> documentation on what it means to bring the standard into practice. The
>> first thing is to understand what the standard is used for, in what
>> clinical domain you want to implement it and see what is available (open
>> source or private). I think it could help you a lot more by being a bit
>> more specific in what you want to know.
>>
>>
>>
>>    Enviado con Mailtrack
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>>
>> 2017-02-21 12:49 GMT-06:00 Pablo Pazos :
>>
>> Hi,
>>>
>>> openEHR is a specification, not a software system.
>>>
>>> There are many implementations. Like https://github.com/ppazos/
>>> cabolabs-ehrserver
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Pablo.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:43 PM, STAMATAKI-LOUKATOU GERASIMOULA <
>>> gstam...@uth.gr> wrote:
>>>
>>> Good evening,

 I am a postgraduate student in Bioinformatics and it may seem stupid but
 I would like to ask you a few questions about openEHR , as I was unable
 to
 find or understand them.

 What database openEHR uses and what programming language?
 Is it possible to alter the schema in order to fit to my needs?

 Thank you in advance,
 Mema Stamataki.


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Re: INFORMATION ABOUT THE SYSTEM

[Birger Haarbrandt]

Hi,while openEHR uses a reference model (= it enforces some assumptions and best practices about the domain) the clinical content is expressed by Archetypes and Templates. These define how classes from the reference model can be "orchestrated" and further constrained to represent meaningful clinical concepts. From a programmers perspective, it's a model-driven approach to tackle the complexity of healthcare and to establish semantic interoperability. So yes, you can create a model that represents a clinical registry for rare diseases.Take a look at the Archetype Editor: http://openehr.org/downloads/archetypeeditor/home and the Template Designer: http://openehr.org/download_files/TemplateDesigner/TemplateDesignerSetup_2.6.1213.3.exe These tools are commonly used to edit Archetypes and Templates. Also check out the Clinical Knowledge Manager where you can find and download existing models: www.openehr.org/ckmThere are several ways to build an openEHR system. I would not recommend to start from scratch. Pablo's Server is a good start but Ethercis is also worth a try (the Docker image is nice to get a quick start but you could also dive into the source code):https://github.com/alessfg/docker-ethercisTo build your database, you will not need to do much programming when you use these solutions (you will need some "client code" to map, submit and query the data). Choose or build your Archetypes, create one or more templates, map your data (for example by using an XSD file that you can create by using the Template Designer, it's call Template Document Schema), store it and retrieve data using the Archetype Query Language. Of course this is the short version, maybe the community should think about a good tutorial.Hope this helps a bit,Birger STAMATAKI-LOUKATOU GERASIMOULA  hat am 21. Februar 2017 um 20:34 geschrieben:Thank you all for your immediate response.For example can I use openEHR to build a database for a rare disease ?So, I can use whatever language suits my need if I understand correct?I really do not have any experience.Quoting Alejandro Benavides :It totally validates your questions, more when you enter the world ofstandards, and the lack of experts with assertive answers (something thatis weak in this group), but that "another topic."Really openEHR as other standards do not have specified which programminglanguage, database, network infrastructure, etc. should be used, thisdepends on the type of need you present.I agree to ask the question to the group as there is very littledocumentation on what it means to bring the standard into practice. Thefirst thing is to understand what the standard is used for, in whatclinical domain you want to implement it and see what is available (opensource or private). I think it could help you a lot more by being a bitmore specific in what you want to know.  Enviado con Mailtrack2017-02-21 12:49 GMT-06:00 Pablo Pazos :>> Hi, openEHR is a specification, not a software system. There are many implementations. Like https://github.com/ppazos/>> cabolabs-ehrserver Regards,>> Pablo. On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:43 PM, STAMATAKI-LOUKATOU GERASIMOULA <>> gstam...@uth.gr> wrote:> Good evening,>> I am a postgraduate student in Bioinformatics and it may seem stupid but>>> I would like to ask you a few questions about openEHR , as I was unable to>>> find or understand them.>> What database openEHR uses and what programming language?>>> Is it possible to alter the schema in order to fit to my needs?>> Thank you in advance,>>> Mema Stamataki.> ___>>> openEHR-technical mailing list>>> openEHR-technical@lists.openehr.org>>> http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_>>> lists.openehr.org>>> -->> Ing. Pablo Pazos Gutiérrez>> Cel:(00598) 99 043 145 <+598%2099%20043%20145>>> Skype: cabolabs>> >> http://www.cabolabs.com>> pablo.pa...@cabolabs.com ___>> openEHR-technical mailing list>> openEHR-technical@lists.openehr.org>> http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr->> technical_lists.openehr.org>> --*Alejandro Benavides Garro**Acronym Software*Especialistas InformáticosGestión de Imágenes Médicas Digitales*Móvil:* +50688285301*Skype:* abenavidescr*Email:* alejan...@acronymcr.com*Web:* http://www.acronymcr.com Facebook  Twitter Google+___openEHR-technical mailing listopenEHR-technical@lists.openehr.orghttp://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org> http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org
 

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Re: INFORMATION ABOUT THE SYSTEM

[Thomas Beale]

You are going to need an implementation for the back-end on which you 
can build applications. There are commercial implementations 
, and you may be able to 
obtain one of their systems free for academic use. Otherwise you are 
probably interested in the open source ones, of which there are two that 
are pretty comprehensive at the moment, called EtherCIS and EHRServer. 
You can find links here .


- thomas


On 21/02/2017 12:34, STAMATAKI-LOUKATOU GERASIMOULA wrote:

Thank you all for your immediate response.

For example can I use openEHR to build a database for a rare disease ?
So, I can use whatever language suits my need if I understand correct?
I really do not have any experience.

Quoting Alejandro Benavides : 


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Re: INFORMATION ABOUT THE SYSTEM

[STAMATAKI-LOUKATOU GERASIMOULA]

Thank you all for your immediate response.

For example can I use openEHR to build a database for a rare disease ?
So, I can use whatever language suits my need if I understand correct?
I really do not have any experience.

Quoting Alejandro Benavides :


It totally validates your questions, more when you enter the world of
standards, and the lack of experts with assertive answers (something that
is weak in this group), but that "another topic."

Really openEHR as other standards do not have specified which programming
language, database, network infrastructure, etc. should be used, this
depends on the type of need you present.

I agree to ask the question to the group as there is very little
documentation on what it means to bring the standard into practice. The
first thing is to understand what the standard is used for, in what
clinical domain you want to implement it and see what is available (open
source or private). I think it could help you a lot more by being a bit
more specific in what you want to know.



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2017-02-21 12:49 GMT-06:00 Pablo Pazos :


Hi,

openEHR is a specification, not a software system.

There are many implementations. Like https://github.com/ppazos/
cabolabs-ehrserver

Regards,
Pablo.

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:43 PM, STAMATAKI-LOUKATOU GERASIMOULA <
gstam...@uth.gr> wrote:


Good evening,

I am a postgraduate student in Bioinformatics and it may seem stupid but
I would like to ask you a few questions about openEHR , as I was unable to
find or understand them.

What database openEHR uses and what programming language?
Is it possible to alter the schema in order to fit to my needs?

Thank you in advance,
Mema Stamataki.


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Re: INFORMATION ABOUT THE SYSTEM

[Alejandro Benavides]

It totally validates your questions, more when you enter the world of
standards, and the lack of experts with assertive answers (something that
is weak in this group), but that "another topic."

Really openEHR as other standards do not have specified which programming
language, database, network infrastructure, etc. should be used, this
depends on the type of need you present.

I agree to ask the question to the group as there is very little
documentation on what it means to bring the standard into practice. The
first thing is to understand what the standard is used for, in what
clinical domain you want to implement it and see what is available (open
source or private). I think it could help you a lot more by being a bit
more specific in what you want to know.



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2017-02-21 12:49 GMT-06:00 Pablo Pazos :

> Hi,
>
> openEHR is a specification, not a software system.
>
> There are many implementations. Like https://github.com/ppazos/
> cabolabs-ehrserver
>
> Regards,
> Pablo.
>
> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:43 PM, STAMATAKI-LOUKATOU GERASIMOULA <
> gstam...@uth.gr> wrote:
>
>> Good evening,
>>
>> I am a postgraduate student in Bioinformatics and it may seem stupid but
>> I would like to ask you a few questions about openEHR , as I was unable to
>> find or understand them.
>>
>> What database openEHR uses and what programming language?
>> Is it possible to alter the schema in order to fit to my needs?
>>
>> Thank you in advance,
>> Mema Stamataki.
>>
>>
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>
>
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Re: INFORMATION ABOUT THE SYSTEM

[Pablo Pazos]

Hi,

openEHR is a specification, not a software system.

There are many implementations. Like
https://github.com/ppazos/cabolabs-ehrserver

Regards,
Pablo.

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:43 PM, STAMATAKI-LOUKATOU GERASIMOULA <
gstam...@uth.gr> wrote:

> Good evening,
>
> I am a postgraduate student in Bioinformatics and it may seem stupid but I
> would like to ask you a few questions about openEHR , as I was unable to
> find or understand them.
>
> What database openEHR uses and what programming language?
> Is it possible to alter the schema in order to fit to my needs?
>
> Thank you in advance,
> Mema Stamataki.
>
>
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INFORMATION ABOUT THE SYSTEM

[STAMATAKI-LOUKATOU GERASIMOULA]

Good evening,

I am a postgraduate student in Bioinformatics and it may seem stupid  
but I would like to ask you a few questions about openEHR , as I was  
unable to find or understand them.


What database openEHR uses and what programming language?
Is it possible to alter the schema in order to fit to my needs?

Thank you in advance,
Mema Stamataki.


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