SV: openEHR and IHTSDO (SNOMED CT)
Hi, My impression is that IHTSDO prioritize collaboration with organizations with products that are actively used in IHTSDO:s member countries. I guess that might be the reason why collaboration with for example WHO (ICD, ICF), Regenstrief Institute (LOINC) and International Council of Nurses (ICNP) have been prioritized in favor of openEHR. Proprietary information models are also more common than openEHR models and collaboration with the organizations (companies) behind the proprietary information models are probably done via IHTSDO's Vendor Liaison Forum. Regards Mikael -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: openEHR-clinical [mailto:openehr-clinical-boun...@lists.openehr.org] För Hardiker Nicholas Skickat: den 28 september 2015 18:58 Till: For openEHR clinical discussions Ämne: RE: openEHR and IHTSDO (SNOMED CT) While the reasons for collaboration may be different, I felt like I should report that we have been working very successfully under a collaboration agreement between the International Council of Nurses and IHTSDO on the development of equivalency tables between the International Classification for Nursing Practice (ICNP) and SNOMED CT. I have no reason to doubt the possibility a similar arrangement between the openEHR Foundation and IHTSDO. With best wishes Nick Nick Hardiker RN PhD FACMI Professor of Nursing and Health Informatics | Associate Dean (Research & Innovation) School of Nursing, Midwifery, Social Work & Social Sciences MS1.12, Mary Seacole Building, University of Salford, Salford M6 6PU t: +44 (0) 161 295 7013 n.r.hardi...@salford.ac.uk | www.salford.ac.uk www.seek.salford.ac.uk/profiles/HARDIKER514.jsp Director, eHealth Programme, International Council of Nurses Professor (Adjunct), College of Nursing, University of Colorado Denver, USA Editor-in-Chief, Informatics for Health and Social Care -Original Message- From: openEHR-clinical [mailto:openehr-clinical-boun...@lists.openehr.org] On Behalf Of Mikael Nyström Sent: 27 September 2015 17:08 To: For openEHR clinical discussions; Openehr-Technical Subject: RE: openEHR and IHTSDO (SNOMED CT) Hi Tom, I found the responsible person at IHTSDO for the collaboration with openEHR Foundation. According to her, there are active discussions to be able to soon sign a collaborative agreement between IHTSDO and openEHR and then continue to work with how SNOMED CT and openEHR artefacts practically can be used together. IHTSDO also states over and over again that SNOMED CT needs to be implemented together with good information models to reach its full potential and IHTSDO hosted (at least) the CIMI autumn meeting in Amsterdam last year. I therefore don't understand your very negative attitude towards IHTSDO collaboration Tom. Regards Mikael -Original Message- From: openEHR-clinical [mailto:openehr-clinical-boun...@lists.openehr.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Beale Sent: den 26 september 2015 06:36 To: openehr-clini...@lists.openehr.org; Openehr-Technical Subject: Re: openEHR and IHTSDO (SNOMED CT) A number of approaches have been made in the recent past by openEHR and CIMI, led by Dr stan Huff. The outcome is that IHTSDO do not appear to be currently interested in a formal working relationship with the content modelling communities (openEHR, Intermountain Healthcare, CIMI, ISO 13606, ...). I personally don't understand why, but this is the line they are taking. I'm not aware of any new plans. None of this precludes openEHR actively using IHTSDO-issued standards and specifications, which we do. ADL / AOM 2 and tooling has now been converted to using IHTSDO concept referencing URIs for example. - thomas On 25/09/2015 18:26, Mikael Nyström wrote: > Hi, > > I wonder if there are any current collaborations or collaboration > plans between openEHR Foundation and IHTSDO (which is the organisation > that owns and maintains SNOMED CT.) > > Regards > Mikael > > ___ > openEHR-clinical mailing list > openehr-clini...@lists.openehr.org > http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-clinical_lists.opene > hr.org > ___ openEHR-clinical mailing list openehr-clini...@lists.openehr.org http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-clinical_lists.openehr.org ___ openEHR-clinical mailing list openehr-clini...@lists.openehr.org http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-clinical_lists.openehr.org ___ openEHR-clinical mailing list openehr-clini...@lists.openehr.org http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-clinical_lists.openehr.org ___ openEHR-technical mailing list openEHR-technical@lists.openehr.org http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org
RE: openEHR and IHTSDO (SNOMED CT)
Hi Tom, I found the responsible person at IHTSDO for the collaboration with openEHR Foundation. According to her, there are active discussions to be able to soon sign a collaborative agreement between IHTSDO and openEHR and then continue to work with how SNOMED CT and openEHR artefacts practically can be used together. IHTSDO also states over and over again that SNOMED CT needs to be implemented together with good information models to reach its full potential and IHTSDO hosted (at least) the CIMI autumn meeting in Amsterdam last year. I therefore don't understand your very negative attitude towards IHTSDO collaboration Tom. Regards Mikael -Original Message- From: openEHR-clinical [mailto:openehr-clinical-boun...@lists.openehr.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Beale Sent: den 26 september 2015 06:36 To: openehr-clini...@lists.openehr.org; Openehr-Technical Subject: Re: openEHR and IHTSDO (SNOMED CT) A number of approaches have been made in the recent past by openEHR and CIMI, led by Dr stan Huff. The outcome is that IHTSDO do not appear to be currently interested in a formal working relationship with the content modelling communities (openEHR, Intermountain Healthcare, CIMI, ISO 13606, ...). I personally don't understand why, but this is the line they are taking. I'm not aware of any new plans. None of this precludes openEHR actively using IHTSDO-issued standards and specifications, which we do. ADL / AOM 2 and tooling has now been converted to using IHTSDO concept referencing URIs for example. - thomas On 25/09/2015 18:26, Mikael Nyström wrote: > Hi, > > I wonder if there are any current collaborations or collaboration > plans between openEHR Foundation and IHTSDO (which is the organisation > that owns and maintains SNOMED CT.) > > Regards > Mikael > > ___ > openEHR-clinical mailing list > openehr-clini...@lists.openehr.org > http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-clinical_lists.opene > hr.org > ___ openEHR-clinical mailing list openehr-clini...@lists.openehr.org http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-clinical_lists.openehr.org ___ openEHR-technical mailing list openEHR-technical@lists.openehr.org http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org
Re: openEHR and IHTSDO (SNOMED CT)
A number of approaches have been made in the recent past by openEHR and CIMI, led by Dr stan Huff. The outcome is that IHTSDO do not appear to be currently interested in a formal working relationship with the content modelling communities (openEHR, Intermountain Healthcare, CIMI, ISO 13606, ...). I personally don't understand why, but this is the line they are taking. I'm not aware of any new plans. None of this precludes openEHR actively using IHTSDO-issued standards and specifications, which we do. ADL / AOM 2 and tooling has now been converted to using IHTSDO concept referencing URIs for example. - thomas On 25/09/2015 18:26, Mikael Nyström wrote: Hi, I wonder if there are any current collaborations or collaboration plans between openEHR Foundation and IHTSDO (which is the organisation that owns and maintains SNOMED CT.) Regards Mikael ___ openEHR-clinical mailing list openehr-clini...@lists.openehr.org http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-clinical_lists.openehr.org ___ openEHR-technical mailing list openEHR-technical@lists.openehr.org http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org
Re: openEHR and IHTSDO (SNOMED CT)
Hi Mikael, there have been some approaches in the past, currently I think the is no formal work between openEHR and IHTSDO (we know who they are ;) Sent from my LG Mobile -- Original message--From: Mikael NyströmDate: Fri, Sep 25, 2015 14:26To: For openEHR clinical discussions;For openEHR technical discussions;Subject:openEHR and IHTSDO (SNOMED CT)Hi,I wonder if there are any current collaborations or collaboration plans between openEHR Foundation and IHTSDO (which is the organisation that owns and maintains SNOMED CT.) Regards Mikael___openEHR-technical mailing listopenEHR-technical@lists.openehr.orghttp://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org___ openEHR-technical mailing list openEHR-technical@lists.openehr.org http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org
openEHR and IHTSDO (SNOMED CT)
Hi, I wonder if there are any current collaborations or collaboration plans between openEHR Foundation and IHTSDO (which is the organisation that owns and maintains SNOMED CT.) Regards Mikael ___ openEHR-technical mailing list openEHR-technical@lists.openehr.org http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org
