Re: [OE-core] OE TSC minutes 12 February 2013
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:28:51PM -0800, Jeff Osier-Mixon wrote: b. meta-oe appends/overlayed recipes RFC http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2013-February/043925.html = Paul to talk to Chris about a release tslib release (it's not clear without reading whole log (9:23:04 AM) bluelightning: for reference, the RFC: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2013-February/043925.html (9:23:26 AM) RP: tslib is probably a case for putting pressure on Chris for a release (9:23:37 AM) bluelightning: RP: that's what I was thinking (9:23:55 AM) bluelightning: I can take the AR to do that (9:23:55 AM) RP: We could take the ffmpeg/libav stuff into the core subject to correct license tags (9:24:17 AM) RP: xserver-nodm-init I don't know the history of, probably needs someone to resolve the differences (9:24:20 AM) RP: It does need to be done (9:24:20 AM) koen-: bluelightning: feel free to drop the avr32 patch in libmad (9:24:34 AM) bluelightning: koen-: ok... is it no longer of value then? (9:25:28 AM) fray: so it sounds like me, we have a clear path for everything except xserver-nodm-init? (9:25:42 AM) koen-: bluelightning: no avr32 support in public layers (9:26:09 AM) bluelightning: koen-: well, there are a few references, but you're right, no machines that I'm aware of that use that TARGET_ARCH (9:26:55 AM) koen-: exactly (9:27:00 AM) bluelightning: I'd also note generally I'm still waiting to hear back from Martin Jansa since I figured he might have an opinion on the RFC (9:27:17 AM) RP: re: xserver-nodm-init, I probably know some of the history if there are specific questions (9:27:46 AM) bluelightning: well, the general question is how can we eliminate the duplication (9:27:51 AM) RP: I think its a case of nobody wants to touch it :/ (9:28:00 AM) fray: :) (9:28:07 AM) bluelightning: so far that has been the pattern, it has been raised numerous times (9:28:18 AM) RP: I'd propose deleting the meta-oe version (9:28:22 AM) RP: see who complains :) (9:28:27 AM) fray: there ya go.. :) (9:28:42 AM) bluelightning: JaMa at least would probably have something to say about that :) (9:28:43 AM) koen-: RP: martin and I tried to get the meta-oe version into oe-core a year ago (9:29:16 AM) fray: I think the key thing, from the original goal of meta-oe (way back when we first met on oe-core/meta-oe) was to use it as a temporary space for appends (as necessary).. key being temporary, until it could be put into oe-core (or dropped) (9:29:16 AM) koen-: RP: but the oe-core maintainer couldn't grasp our usecase and it was before the big X.org cleanup (9:29:51 AM) fray: with the cleanup, does it make sense to try again? (9:29:52 AM) bluelightning: fray: I don't think that purpose ought to be supported anymore (9:30:12 AM) bluelightning: just causes too much mess (9:30:17 AM) fray: bluelightning I'm inclined to agree with you.. (9:30:26 AM) koen-: systemd-user-sessions are a much better way to do it (9:30:34 AM) RP: koen-: So rather than explain it further you gave up? (9:30:36 AM) ***koen- has a ton of recipes to make that work (9:30:42 AM) fray: I was originally thinking experimental features, etc.. but always with an eye of getting things into oe-core (9:30:43 AM) koen-: RP: not really (9:30:54 AM) koen-: RP: after a while we hit the usual brick wall (9:31:02 AM) RP: koen-: usual? (9:31:07 AM) koen-: and then we focused on merging the meta-oe X.org stuff (9:31:26 AM) bluelightning: fray: if people want a shared layer to do that, I've no objection... as long as it's not the same layer that has useful stable additional recipes as meta-oe does (9:31:45 AM) fray: ya, and I think that's one of the things that has changed.. (9:31:55 AM) fray: meta-oe is a lot more stable then it had originally been thought to be.. (9:32:03 AM) fray: (not a complaint mind you!) (9:32:09 AM) khem: fray: meta-oe should be seen as extention of oe-core (9:32:42 AM) RP: My main concern with it has been the mix of distro policy and recipes (9:33:03 AM) RP: We're reaching a point where that is nearly resolved and I think we need to maintain that (9:33:19 AM) fray: RP, that is the place I'm seeing more focus on from you and others.. distro policy settings vs simply recipe integration.. it's a good thing and as you said, we need to maintain this work.. (9:33:50 AM) fray: I think it speaks highly of the project and users that distro policy is an issue vs I can't integrate recipes cause it's too hard (9:34:52 AM) fray: ok then.. what are the next steps to this.. (9:35:11 AM) RP: Its why the YP compatible status spells this out, its one of the hardest things to achieve yet it also helps the users the most (9:35:15 AM) fray: Finish up the work for the packages other then the xservers-nodm-init.. (9:35:25 AM) fray: work on getting that integrated or dropped as a separate item? (9:35:33 AM) bluelightning: fray: well, we've resolved everything
Re: [OE-core] OE TSC minutes 12 February 2013
On 28 February 2013 06:28, Jeff Osier-Mixon je...@jefro.net wrote: (9:51:16 AM) RP: bluelightning: Beat up Ross? In an attempt to avoid TSC-sanctioned beatings, I've just sent a series that adds libgdata, clutter-box2d, and gthumb to meta-oe. Ross ___ Openembedded-core mailing list Openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openembedded-core
Re: [OE-core] OE TSC minutes 12 February 2013
On Thursday 28 February 2013 12:13:18 Burton, Ross wrote: On 28 February 2013 06:28, Jeff Osier-Mixon je...@jefro.net wrote: (9:51:16 AM) RP: bluelightning: Beat up Ross? In an attempt to avoid TSC-sanctioned beatings, I've just sent a series that adds libgdata, clutter-box2d, and gthumb to meta-oe. Thanks! Glad I don't have to dish out any beatings. ;) Cheers, Paul -- Paul Eggleton Intel Open Source Technology Centre ___ Openembedded-core mailing list Openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openembedded-core
Re: [OE-core] OE TSC minutes 12 February 2013
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Martin Jansa martin.ja...@gmail.com wrote: I can explain some bits on this one. The main difference between xserver-nodm-init is not in this recipe itself but in stuff it's using to get things done: meta-oe version: xserver-common (includes settings for many MACHINEs), integrates with xinput-calibrator oe-core version: x11-common (uses formfactor to read MACHINE support, xinput-calibrator not used and not available in oe-core xinput-calibrator is now being reworked by Andreas On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Paul Eggleton paul.eggle...@linux.intel.com wrote: Thanks! Glad I don't have to dish out any beatings. ;) Afraid of getting new beatings-canditate: Need a bit time on other issues before I can taking care for xinput-calibrator :) Andreas ___ Openembedded-core mailing list Openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openembedded-core
[OE-core] OE TSC minutes 12 February 2013
OpenEmbedded Technical Steering Committee 12 February 2013 Attendees: Richard (RP) Koen (koen) Khem (khem) Fray (fray) Paul (bluelightning) Notes: Jefro Agenda Results 1. pick a chair fray ___ 2. new issues a. mailing list outage no one sure what went wrong, probably disk space main problem is nobody around w/admin (too few admins at linuxtogo) possible transition to LF or YP ** list addresses would not change = jefro volunteers to help if possible = jefro to talk to board + mhalstead ka6sox b. meta-oe appends/overlayed recipes RFC http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2013-February/043925.html = Paul to talk to Chris about a release no avr32 support in public layers ___ 3. lingering issues a. raise awareness of janitor list, QA bugs b. document whitespace changes to the shell http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/Commit_Patch_Message_Guidelines http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/Styleguide also https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Recipe_%26_Patch_Style_Guide = need to de-dup these c. SMART has replaced zypper (was documenting RPM and package feeds) Paul wrote: https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Smart_Repository_Setup d. patchwork queue = Paul to talk to scottrif about adding to docs e. raise ntp with the Yocto Project [RP] immediate need addressed, reasonable default needed use LICENSE_FLAGS - non-commercial = RP/Jefro to raise at next AB f. oe-classic recipe migration status RP played with perl modules, fixed up cpan_build.bbclass g. some items dropped from oe-core but not yet in meta-oe ___ 4. status a. oe-core release b. infrastructure mailing list issue described above wiki spam issues wiki requires updating spam module = jefro/khem to talk to wmat for help c. 1.4 planning systemd into master - still in progress Raw Transcript (8:59:47 AM) Jefro: good morning all (9:00:40 AM) bluelightning: hi Jefro, fray, RP, koen- (9:01:57 AM) Jefro: I'm not sure who is actually here (9:02:03 AM) Jefro: I'll ping khem also (9:02:06 AM) fray: I'm here (9:02:30 AM) RP: Morning all! (9:03:37 AM) fray: morning.. (9:04:08 AM) koen-: morning all (9:04:32 AM) bluelightning: hi (9:04:35 AM) bluelightning: ok so we are just missing khem then (9:04:52 AM) fray: I think so.. (9:05:03 AM) Jefro: I just pinged him, no response so he is probably in traffic (9:05:03 AM) fray: for the agenda, is there any thing we need to discuss in relationship to the mail list outtage/ (9:05:25 AM) bluelightning: I think we should have it on the agenda yes (9:05:35 AM) Jefro: yup, it's there (9:05:38 AM) RP: I have no idea what happened, not sure if anyone else does (9:05:45 AM) Jefro: any other new issues? I'll put them on before I pastebin it (9:06:07 AM) fray: only other thing perhaps is the meta-oe appends/overlayed recipes RFC.. (9:06:14 AM) fray: but I'm not sure we have anything ot discuss here (9:07:02 AM) bluelightning: the solutions for most parts seem pretty clear (9:07:09 AM) fray: ok (9:07:18 AM) bluelightning: there are a couple of unresolved questions still though (9:07:37 AM) Jefro: ok, here it is: http://pastebin.com/PvgKvYMf (9:08:02 AM) RP: I chaired the last one so someone else today ;-) (9:08:36 AM) fray: I can do it (9:09:00 AM) Jefro: fray thanks (9:09:20 AM) fray: ok then.. I'd suggest we hold off on hte mailig list outtage topic for a bit and see if Khem gets through traffic.. (9:09:22 AM) fray: ok? (9:09:36 AM) khem [~k...@99-57-140-209.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] entered the room. (9:09:36 AM) mode (+v khem) by ChanServ (9:09:43 AM) fray: hey and here he is! (9:09:48 AM) bluelightning: nice :) (9:09:51 AM) fray: ok.. back.. on topic then (9:09:54 AM) khem: yes, hi all (9:09:58 AM) bluelightning: hi khem (9:10:04 AM) fray: khem: http://pastebin.com/PvgKvYMf (9:10:07 AM) fray: just gettign started (9:10:13 AM) fray: 2a - mailing list outtage (9:10:30 AM) fray: As RP mentioned earlier.. nobody is even sure if anyone knows what went wrong.. (9:10:35 AM) khem: thanks (9:10:57 AM) bluelightning: the first problem as with last time is that nobody with admin privileges could be raised for several hours (9:11:25 AM) khem: no one on US has admin privs (9:11:26 AM) bluelightning: that's not the fault of the folks with admin privs, it's that there are too few such people for the linuxtogo.org servers (9:11:32 AM) fray: There are two folks who admin privileges? Florian and? (9:11:33 AM) khem: so even if we were awake we could not help (9:11:44 AM) khem: I think RP is (9:12:21 AM) Jefro: what was the issue that brought it down? (9:12:35 AM) khem: is ltg maintained well (9:12:46 AM) koen-: I suspect ltg ran out of diskspace again (9:12:58 AM) koen-: the backup script seems to need 200GB free (9:13:00 AM) fray: Symptom wise, that wouldn't surprise me..
