Re: [oe] Does the OS make a difference?

2010-09-03 Thread J. L.
I figured as much but was worth asking :P I hate reinstalls, thanks as
always though.

Side note though I finally got my first recipe to almost work it
creates an ipk and i can install to an existing image but the program
doesnt run right so I messed up configuring it but I am getting closer
to getting a grasp for once. Now if I can just figure out whats giving
me my last couple errors on the image I want and then go back to
figure out how to get the packages that wont build that i need to
build from the existing recipes.




On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:05 PM, AJ ONeal coola...@gmail.com wrote:
 As with any operating system, I would recommend a clean install. IME,
 upgrades always leave cruft.

 It's easy enough to get a list of installed packages
 http://www.arsgeek.com/2006/09/19/ubuntu-tricks-how-to-generate-a-list-of-installed-packages-and-use-it-to-reinstall-packages/

 git rid of any version numbers and diff that against the new clean install

 You'll likely want to backup /home, /opt, /usr/local/.

 I'm going to go ahead and give it a try on my development box at home and
 see how it goes.


 Ironically, my goal is to replace my web dev box at home with the gumstix
 and nodejs.

 AJ ONeal


 On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:58 PM, J. L. vwyodap...@gmail.com wrote:

 Do you know if doing a standard method of upgrading would be ok or
 should I start from a full clean install? Thanks



 On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Douglas Royds
 douglas.ro...@taitradio.com wrote:
  On 03/09/10 05:19, J. L. wrote:
 
  I would be interested to know as well I am building on 9.10 and seem
  to get more errors than those building on 10.04 or 10.10 with 64 bit
 
 
 
  On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:46 AM, AJ ONealcoola...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
 
  It would be worth it to upgrade from Ubuntu 8.10 to 10.04 if it really
  makes
  a difference... but it would take time and disrupt workflow and
 otherwise
  provide little advantage.
 
 
  As an aside, you should both be aware that neither 9.10 nor 8.10 are
 LTS
  (long-term support) Ubuntu releases. As such, Ubuntu are no longer
  back-porting security fixes.
 
  I recommend that you both upgrade to 10.04 LTS. Ubuntu will support 10.04
  for 3 years (ie. until April 2013).
 
  Douglas.
 
 
 
 
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[oe] Does the OS make a difference?

2010-09-02 Thread AJ ONeal
The way that I understand it, OE natively compiles everything it needs for
cross-compiling everything the target needs - perl, python, etc.

However, I hear people using Ubuntu 10.04 say that they don't have problems
building the same thing that I'm building.

Is that just random happenstance or is there something about the OS that
would make successful builds more likely?

It would be worth it to upgrade from Ubuntu 8.10 to 10.04 if it really makes
a difference... but it would take time and disrupt workflow and otherwise
provide little advantage.

AJ ONeal
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Re: [oe] Does the OS make a difference?

2010-09-02 Thread J. L.
I would be interested to know as well I am building on 9.10 and seem
to get more errors than those building on 10.04 or 10.10 with 64 bit



On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:46 AM, AJ ONeal coola...@gmail.com wrote:
 The way that I understand it, OE natively compiles everything it needs for
 cross-compiling everything the target needs - perl, python, etc.

 However, I hear people using Ubuntu 10.04 say that they don't have problems
 building the same thing that I'm building.

 Is that just random happenstance or is there something about the OS that
 would make successful builds more likely?

 It would be worth it to upgrade from Ubuntu 8.10 to 10.04 if it really makes
 a difference... but it would take time and disrupt workflow and otherwise
 provide little advantage.

 AJ ONeal
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Re: [oe] Does the OS make a difference?

2010-09-02 Thread Khem Raj
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:46 AM, AJ ONeal coola...@gmail.com wrote:
 The way that I understand it, OE natively compiles everything it needs for
 cross-compiling everything the target needs - perl, python, etc.

not everything but things that it needs different from native ones. It
still uses lot of
the packages installed on build host.


 However, I hear people using Ubuntu 10.04 say that they don't have problems
 building the same thing that I'm building.


could be. I don't know what your problem is.

 Is that just random happenstance or is there something about the OS that
 would make successful builds more likely?

 It would be worth it to upgrade from Ubuntu 8.10 to 10.04 if it really makes
 a difference... but it would take time and disrupt workflow and otherwise
 provide little advantage.

 AJ ONeal
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Re: [oe] Does the OS make a difference?

2010-09-02 Thread Douglas Royds

On 03/09/10 05:19, J. L. wrote:

I would be interested to know as well I am building on 9.10 and seem
to get more errors than those building on 10.04 or 10.10 with 64 bit



On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:46 AM, AJ ONealcoola...@gmail.com  wrote:
   

It would be worth it to upgrade from Ubuntu 8.10 to 10.04 if it really makes
a difference... but it would take time and disrupt workflow and otherwise
provide little advantage.
 


As an aside, you should both be aware that neither 9.10 nor 8.10 are 
LTS (long-term support) Ubuntu releases. As such, Ubuntu are no longer 
back-porting security fixes.


I recommend that you both upgrade to 10.04 LTS. Ubuntu will support 
10.04 for 3 years (ie. until April 2013).


Douglas.




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Re: [oe] Does the OS make a difference?

2010-09-02 Thread J. L.
Do you know if doing a standard method of upgrading would be ok or
should I start from a full clean install? Thanks



On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Douglas Royds
douglas.ro...@taitradio.com wrote:
 On 03/09/10 05:19, J. L. wrote:

 I would be interested to know as well I am building on 9.10 and seem
 to get more errors than those building on 10.04 or 10.10 with 64 bit



 On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:46 AM, AJ ONealcoola...@gmail.com  wrote:


 It would be worth it to upgrade from Ubuntu 8.10 to 10.04 if it really
 makes
 a difference... but it would take time and disrupt workflow and otherwise
 provide little advantage.


 As an aside, you should both be aware that neither 9.10 nor 8.10 are LTS
 (long-term support) Ubuntu releases. As such, Ubuntu are no longer
 back-porting security fixes.

 I recommend that you both upgrade to 10.04 LTS. Ubuntu will support 10.04
 for 3 years (ie. until April 2013).

 Douglas.




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Re: [oe] Does the OS make a difference?

2010-09-02 Thread AJ ONeal
As with any operating system, I would recommend a clean install. IME,
upgrades always leave cruft.

It's easy enough to get a list of installed packages
http://www.arsgeek.com/2006/09/19/ubuntu-tricks-how-to-generate-a-list-of-installed-packages-and-use-it-to-reinstall-packages/

git rid of any version numbers and diff that against the new clean install

You'll likely want to backup /home, /opt, /usr/local/.

I'm going to go ahead and give it a try on my development box at home and
see how it goes.


Ironically, my goal is to replace my web dev box at home with the gumstix
and nodejs.

AJ ONeal


On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:58 PM, J. L. vwyodap...@gmail.com wrote:

 Do you know if doing a standard method of upgrading would be ok or
 should I start from a full clean install? Thanks



 On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Douglas Royds
 douglas.ro...@taitradio.com wrote:
  On 03/09/10 05:19, J. L. wrote:
 
  I would be interested to know as well I am building on 9.10 and seem
  to get more errors than those building on 10.04 or 10.10 with 64 bit
 
 
 
  On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:46 AM, AJ ONealcoola...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
 
  It would be worth it to upgrade from Ubuntu 8.10 to 10.04 if it really
  makes
  a difference... but it would take time and disrupt workflow and
 otherwise
  provide little advantage.
 
 
  As an aside, you should both be aware that neither 9.10 nor 8.10 are
 LTS
  (long-term support) Ubuntu releases. As such, Ubuntu are no longer
  back-porting security fixes.
 
  I recommend that you both upgrade to 10.04 LTS. Ubuntu will support 10.04
  for 3 years (ie. until April 2013).
 
  Douglas.
 
 
 
 
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