Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project"openerp-nomenclature" to join the OCA projects

[Martin Collins]

On 2014-03-15 22:06, jeff.wang wrote:
> 
> Yes, CSV is noupdate="0", this make me really fantastic surprises during
> implement the security access control.

Yeah, and they say ERP is boring ;-/

> each time you upgrade a module, all access come from CSV __REPLACE__ the
> ones you set up in your database, this make the security setting in
> openerp can not been used by non-developer, how do you solve it in your
> project?

Not sure 'solve' is the word I would use but here's how I do it:
Always run with -P (partial import) which won't load a file it has
already loaded.
Make sure all my unsafe CSV files are commented out in __openerp__.py
before every update (in case the -P gets forgotten or status.pickle gets
lost).
If I want to update a whole CSV file I hack it out of the status.pickle
file (delete the existing records first).
If I want to add some new lines from a CSV file I copy them into a
separate file and import that through the user interface.

Martin

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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project"openerp-nomenclature" to join the OCA projects

[jeff.wang]

Hi,


This is somehow Out of thread, sorry.


Yes, CSV is noupdate="0", this make me really fantastic surprises during 
implement the security access control.


each time you upgrade a module, all access come from CSV __REPLACE__ the ones 
you set up in your database, this make the security setting in openerp can not 
been used by non-developer, how do you solve it in your project?


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-- Original --
From:  "Franco Tampieri";;
Date:  Sat, Mar 15, 2014 05:06 PM
To:  "Francesco Apruzzese"; 
Cc:  
"openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net"; 
Subject:  Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the 
project"openerp-nomenclature" to join the OCA projects



Hi Feancesco!

I prefer XML than CSV for example for the no update feature that prevent to 
reload data on update=all


Cheers

Il sabato 15 marzo 2014, Francesco Apruzzese  ha scritto:

 Il 15/03/2014 09:07, Franco Tampieri ha   scritto:
 
 Hi Joel,
   
   Last days talking with Lionel, we have though to propose to  
 create a team named: openerp-eu-data with   subproject 
openerp-nomenclature: this   project aims to contains all the data like 
bank address lists   by nation, NACE categorization, City/ZIP address 
list and so   on (Only Data in xml file format and very very little 
logic).   
   
 
 What do you   think?
 
   
  
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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project "openerp-nomenclature" to join the OCA projects

[Franco Tampieri]

Of course agree! :)

Il sabato 15 marzo 2014, Info SHS-AV  ha scritto:

>  Yes I can.
> I have internal documentation.
> I need a little time to translate in english, if you agreed
> --
> Antonio M. Vigliotti
>
>
> Il 15/03/2014 17:39, Franco Tampieri ha scritto:
>
> Hi Antonio
>
>  Can you link a Document with the NUT standard? With that document
> other partners can analyze and define toghether a common standard
>
> Do you agree?
>
> Il sabato 15 marzo 2014, Info SHS-AV 
> >
> ha scritto:
>
>>  Agree.
>> UE team should ask regional teams about domestic structure in order to
>> build functional software.
>> In example, for address, UE team shold require these info:
>> Address format: Italy ->  %(zip) %(city)s %(state_id)s
>> ZIP format: Italy -> 5 digits
>> ZIP - City relanshionship: Italy -> Many2Many
>> State_id means: Italy -> NUTS3
>> State_id - City relanshionship: Italy -> One2Many
>> ... and so on
>> I am avaiable to prepare a form to gather infomations.
>>
>>
>>
>> Il 15/03/2014 11:42, Lionel Sausin ha scritto:
>>
>> Hi,
>> As I wrote to Franco Tampieri, I'd rather have a global team because
>> eventually the team's work will be more about making quality data files
>> than gathering region-specifi knowledge.
>> + there are already functional l10n teams, why step on their toes?
>> So my plan would rather be:
>> - rename the project to openerp-data
>> - make a single team openerp-data and cease the project ownership to it
>> - make 1 branch per region if we fear the branches become too big
>> Does it make sense?
>> Lionel.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Antonio M. Vigliotti
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project "openerp-nomenclature" to join the OCA projects

[Info SHS-AV]

Yes I can.
I have internal documentation.
I need a little time to translate in english, if you agreed
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Il 15/03/2014 17:39, Franco Tampieri ha scritto:

Hi Antonio

Can you link a Document with the NUT standard? With that document 
other partners can analyze and define toghether a common standard


Do you agree?

Il sabato 15 marzo 2014, Info SHS-AV > ha scritto:


Agree.
UE team should ask regional teams about domestic structure in
order to build functional software.
In example, for address, UE team shold require these info:
Address format: Italy ->  %(zip) %(city)s %(state_id)s
ZIP format: Italy -> 5 digits
ZIP - City relanshionship: Italy -> Many2Many
State_id means: Italy -> NUTS3
State_id - City relanshionship: Italy -> One2Many
... and so on
I am avaiable to prepare a form to gather infomations.



Il 15/03/2014 11:42, Lionel Sausin ha scritto:

Hi,
As I wrote to Franco Tampieri, I'd rather have a global team
because eventually the team's work will be more about making
quality data files than gathering region-specifi knowledge.
+ there are already functional l10n teams, why step on their toes?
So my plan would rather be:
- rename the project to openerp-data
- make a single team openerp-data and cease the project ownership
to it
- make 1 branch per region if we fear the branches become too big
Does it make sense?
Lionel.



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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project "openerp-nomenclature" to join the OCA projects

[Franco Tampieri]

Hi Antonio

Can you link a Document with the NUT standard? With that document
other partners can analyze and define toghether a common standard

Do you agree?

Il sabato 15 marzo 2014, Info SHS-AV  ha scritto:

>  Agree.
> UE team should ask regional teams about domestic structure in order to
> build functional software.
> In example, for address, UE team shold require these info:
> Address format: Italy ->  %(zip) %(city)s %(state_id)s
> ZIP format: Italy -> 5 digits
> ZIP - City relanshionship: Italy -> Many2Many
> State_id means: Italy -> NUTS3
> State_id - City relanshionship: Italy -> One2Many
> ... and so on
> I am avaiable to prepare a form to gather infomations.
>
>
>
> Il 15/03/2014 11:42, Lionel Sausin ha scritto:
>
> Hi,
> As I wrote to Franco Tampieri, I'd rather have a global team because
> eventually the team's work will be more about making quality data files
> than gathering region-specifi knowledge.
> + there are already functional l10n teams, why step on their toes?
> So my plan would rather be:
> - rename the project to openerp-data
> - make a single team openerp-data and cease the project ownership to it
> - make 1 branch per region if we fear the branches become too big
> Does it make sense?
> Lionel.
>
>
> --
>
> Antonio M. Vigliotti
>
>
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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project "openerp-nomenclature" to join the OCA projects

[Info SHS-AV]

Agree.
UE team should ask regional teams about domestic structure in order to 
build functional software.

In example, for address, UE team shold require these info:
Address format: Italy ->  %(zip) %(city)s %(state_id)s
ZIP format: Italy -> 5 digits
ZIP - City relanshionship: Italy -> Many2Many
State_id means: Italy -> NUTS3
State_id - City relanshionship: Italy -> One2Many
... and so on
I am avaiable to prepare a form to gather infomations.



Il 15/03/2014 11:42, Lionel Sausin ha scritto:

Hi,
As I wrote to Franco Tampieri, I'd rather have a global team because 
eventually the team's work will be more about making quality data 
files than gathering region-specifi knowledge.

+ there are already functional l10n teams, why step on their toes?
So my plan would rather be:
- rename the project to openerp-data
- make a single team openerp-data and cease the project ownership to it
- make 1 branch per region if we fear the branches become too big
Does it make sense?
Lionel.



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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project "openerp-nomenclature" to join the OCA projects

[Franco Tampieri]

Il sabato 15 marzo 2014, Lionel Sausin  ha scritto:

>  Le 15/03/2014 12:51, 
> antonio.seque...@multibase.pta
>  écrit :
>
> Hi,
>
>  Count with us from the portuguese part.
>
>  We have been doing this for our selfs:
>
>- city/zip code
>- portuguese holidays
>- taxes tables (changing regulary)
>- ...
>
> Does this all fits your idea?
>
> Totally!
>
>
Yes Antonio totally agree too!
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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project "openerp-nomenclature" to join the OCA projects

[Lionel Sausin]

Le 15/03/2014 12:51, antonio.seque...@multibase.pt a écrit :

Hi,

Count with us from the portuguese part.

We have been doing this for our selfs:

  * city/zip code
  * portuguese holidays
  * taxes tables (changing regulary)
  * ...

Does this all fits your idea?

Totally!

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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project "openerp-nomenclature" to join the OCA projects

[Lionel Sausin]

Hi,
As I wrote to Franco Tampieri, I'd rather have a global team because 
eventually the team's work will be more about making quality data files 
than gathering region-specifi knowledge.

+ there are already functional l10n teams, why step on their toes?
So my plan would rather be:
- rename the project to openerp-data
- make a single team openerp-data and cease the project ownership to it
- make 1 branch per region if we fear the branches become too big
Does it make sense?
Lionel.

Le 15/03/2014 10:36, Eric Caudal a écrit :

+1 could be one localization per continent depending on needs
Eric Caudal (From his mobile)

Franco Tampieri  wrote:

Hi Joel,

Last days talking with Lionel, we have though to propose to create a 
team named: openerp-eu-data with subproject openerp-nomenclature: this 
project aims to contains all the data like bank address lists by 
nation, NACE categorization, City/ZIP address list and so on (Only 
Data in xml file format and very very little logic).


What do you think?


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2014-03-13 10:23 GMT+01:00 Franco Tampieri 
mailto:franco.tampi...@abstract.it>>:


Thats Good!

Il giovedì 13 marzo 2014, Lionel Sausin mailto:l...@numerigraphe.com>> ha scritto:

Le 13/03/2014 09:16, Franco Tampieri a écrit :

Do you think that promote a new project like
openerp-eu-data instead nomenclature will be more General
purpose?

On the contrary, I think a global project is more effective
because it would mean a single team.
In my experience I've seen that adapting the files is a
know-how in itself: tracing the right sources, getting
reliable files, hacking macros and scripts to re-format he
files, adding translations, making them upgradeable...
On the other hand you don't need to know a lot about the
region beforehand, because those files are usually well
described by the official bodies.

If ever the main branch gets too large, we can always split
them into region-specific branches inside the same project.

Lionel.



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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project "openerp-nomenclature" to join the OCA projects

[Franco Tampieri]

+1 for me

Il sabato 15 marzo 2014, Lionel Sausin  ha scritto:

>  Hi,
> As I wrote to Franco Tampieri, I'd rather have a global team because
> eventually the team's work will be more about making quality data files
> than gathering region-specifi knowledge.
> + there are already functional l10n teams, why step on their toes?
> So my plan would rather be:
> - rename the project to openerp-data
> - make a single team openerp-data and cease the project ownership to it
> - make 1 branch per region if we fear the branches become too big
> Does it make sense?
> Lionel.
>
> Le 15/03/2014 10:36, Eric Caudal a écrit :
>
> +1 could be one localization per continent depending on needs
> Eric Caudal (From his mobile)
>
> Franco Tampieri  wrote:
>
>  Hi Joel,
>
> Last days talking with Lionel, we have though to propose to create a team
> named: openerp-eu-data with subproject openerp-nomenclature: this project
> aims to contains all the data like bank address lists by nation, NACE
> categorization, City/ZIP address list and so on (Only Data in xml file
> format and very very little logic).
>
>  What do you think?
>
>
>
>
>
> Franco Tampieri
> System Engineer
>
>
>
> >_
> abstract.it - +39 06 9294 6938
>
>
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> 2014-03-13 10:23 GMT+01:00 Franco Tampieri :
>
> Thats Good!
>
> Il giovedì 13 marzo 2014, Lionel Sausin  ha scritto:
>
>  Le 13/03/2014 09:16, Franco Tampieri a écrit :
>
> Do you think that promote a new project like openerp-eu-data instead
> nomenclature will be more General purpose?
>
> On the contrary, I think a global project is more effective because it
> would mean a single team.
> In my experience I've seen that adapting the files is a know-how in
> itself: tracing the right sources, getting reliable files, hacking macros
> and scripts to re-format he files, adding translations, making them
> upgradeable...
> On the other hand you don't need to know a lot about the region
> beforehand, because those files are usually well described by the official
> bodies.
>
> If ever the main branch gets too large, we can always split them into
> region-specific branches inside the same project.
>
> Lionel.
>
>
>
> --
>
>

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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project "openerp-nomenclature" to join the OCA projects

[Eric Caudal]

+1 could be one localization per continent depending on needs
Eric Caudal (From his mobile)

Franco Tampieri  wrote:

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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project "openerp-nomenclature" to join the OCA projects

[Franco Tampieri]

Hi Feancesco!

I prefer XML than CSV for example for the no update feature that prevent to
reload data on update=all

Cheers

Il sabato 15 marzo 2014, Francesco Apruzzese  ha scritto:

>
> Il 15/03/2014 09:07, Franco Tampieri ha scritto:
>
>  Hi Joel,
>
> Last days talking with Lionel, we have though to propose to create a team
> named: openerp-eu-data with subproject openerp-nomenclature: this project
> aims to contains all the data like bank address lists by nation, NACE
> categorization, City/ZIP address list and so on (Only Data in xml file
> format and very very little logic).
>
>  What do you think?
>
>
> Why XML? Why not CSV?
>
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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project "openerp-nomenclature" to join the OCA projects

[Francesco Apruzzese]

Il 15/03/2014 09:07, Franco Tampieri ha scritto:

Hi Joel,

Last days talking with Lionel, we have though to propose to create a 
team named: openerp-eu-data with subproject openerp-nomenclature: this 
project aims to contains all the data like bank address lists by 
nation, NACE categorization, City/ZIP address list and so on (Only 
Data in xml file format and very very little logic).


What do you think?


Why XML? Why not CSV?
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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project "openerp-nomenclature" to join the OCA projects

[Info SHS-AV]

It is a good idea!
I would like to partecipate.
I agree about only data in xml.
Very very little logic -> No stange field added in web page, natural 
search, natural use




Il 15/03/2014 09:07, Franco Tampieri ha scritto:

Hi Joel,

Last days talking with Lionel, we have though to propose to create a 
team named: openerp-eu-data with subproject openerp-nomenclature: this 
project aims to contains all the data like bank address lists by 
nation, NACE categorization, City/ZIP address list and so on (Only 
Data in xml file format and very very little logic).


What do you think?


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2014-03-13 10:23 GMT+01:00 Franco Tampieri 
mailto:franco.tampi...@abstract.it>>:


Thats Good!

Il giovedì 13 marzo 2014, Lionel Sausin mailto:l...@numerigraphe.com>> ha scritto:

Le 13/03/2014 09:16, Franco Tampieri a écrit :

Do you think that promote a new project like
openerp-eu-data instead nomenclature will be more General
purpose?

On the contrary, I think a global project is more effective
because it would mean a single team.
In my experience I've seen that adapting the files is a
know-how in itself: tracing the right sources, getting
reliable files, hacking macros and scripts to re-format he
files, adding translations, making them upgradeable...
On the other hand you don't need to know a lot about the
region beforehand, because those files are usually well
described by the official bodies.

If ever the main branch gets too large, we can always split
them into region-specific branches inside the same project.

Lionel.



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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project "openerp-nomenclature" to join the OCA projects

[Franco Tampieri]

Hi Joel,

Last days talking with Lionel, we have though to propose to create a team
named: openerp-eu-data with subproject openerp-nomenclature: this project
aims to contains all the data like bank address lists by nation, NACE
categorization, City/ZIP address list and so on (Only Data in xml file
format and very very little logic).

What do you think?




Franco Tampieri
System Engineer


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2014-03-13 10:23 GMT+01:00 Franco Tampieri :

> Thats Good!
>
> Il giovedì 13 marzo 2014, Lionel Sausin  ha scritto:
>
> Le 13/03/2014 09:16, Franco Tampieri a écrit :
>>
>>> Do you think that promote a new project like openerp-eu-data instead
>>> nomenclature will be more General purpose?
>>>
>> On the contrary, I think a global project is more effective because it
>> would mean a single team.
>> In my experience I've seen that adapting the files is a know-how in
>> itself: tracing the right sources, getting reliable files, hacking macros
>> and scripts to re-format he files, adding translations, making them
>> upgradeable...
>> On the other hand you don't need to know a lot about the region
>> beforehand, because those files are usually well described by the official
>> bodies.
>>
>> If ever the main branch gets too large, we can always split them into
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>> Lionel.
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Re: [Openerp-community] Start using buildbot

[Lorenzo Battistini]

On 03/14/2014 04:31 PM, Lorenzo Battistini wrote:

Now, I can't understand how to test the openerp-7.0 configuration. Should I
link a slave to the master? How should I configure the slaves.cfg file?

Thanks!


Ok, got it.
I set my slave name in slaves.cfg and restarted master
I created my slave with correct name and password (as per slaves.cfg) 
and I can start the build.


Testing further...

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