Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects

2014-04-25 Thread Franco Tampieri
Hi Markus,

I would like to extend in
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~hr-core-editors/openerp-hr/7.0/files/head:/hr_public_holidaysthat
with a wizard fill that model from a ics calendar source.


if you have a more cool idea we can discuss on another thread in community
ml.

Regards

Franco

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2014-04-23 10:37 GMT+02:00 Markus Schneider markus.schnei...@initos.com:

 just update german information on the wiki

 we have two data we want to integrate to OpenERP:

 1) city - zip code + geoinformation of the city

 is there a module for other country how to provide this data?

 2) holidays

 is someone working on something simular? for hr module

 Greetings

 Markus

 On 23.04.2014 07:38, Info SHS-AV wrote:
  Hi Erdem,
 
  I prepared a web page to insert and gather informations about addresses.
  http://www.openerp.enterprises/wiki/OpenERP_Address
 
  You can insert or update data, in Wikimedia format.
  Username is *OpenERP* and password is *developer*
 
  You can find link to OpenERP Developer Community Team
  https://launchpad.net/%7Eopenerp-community
  https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community
  Hope is useful for you.
 
 
  Antonio M. Vigliotti
 
 
 
 
 
  Il 22/04/2014 18:36, Erdem Uney ha scritto:
  Hi all,
 
  We would like to participate for the Turkish data and maybe some help
  on the Eastern European region. Please add me to group. Have you
  decided which data and how to keep it? Is there an agreed template?
 
  Cheers,
  Erdem
  7Gates Interactive Technologies | Istanbul - Turkiye
 
 
  On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Lionel Sausin
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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects

2014-04-23 Thread Franco Tampieri
Hi Erdem!

Nice to hear you, feel free to put Information on the page. Next level is
to prepare a blueprint to prepare a Contact profile guidelines

Regards

Il mercoledì 23 aprile 2014, Info SHS-AV i...@shs-av.com ha scritto:

  Hi Erdem,

 I prepared a web page to insert and gather informations about addresses.
 http://www.openerp.enterprises/wiki/OpenERP_Address

 You can insert or update data, in Wikimedia format.
 Username is *OpenERP* and password is *developer*

 You can find link to OpenERP Developer Community 
 Teamhttps://launchpad.net/%7Eopenerp-community
 https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community
 Hope is useful for you.


 Antonio M. Vigliotti





 Il 22/04/2014 18:36, Erdem Uney ha scritto:

  Hi all,

  We would like to participate for the Turkish data and maybe some help on
 the Eastern European region. Please add me to group. Have you decided which
 data and how to keep it? Is there an agreed template?

  Cheers,
 Erdem
 7Gates Interactive Technologies | Istanbul - Turkiye


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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects

2014-04-23 Thread Markus Schneider
just update german information on the wiki

we have two data we want to integrate to OpenERP:

1) city - zip code + geoinformation of the city

is there a module for other country how to provide this data?

2) holidays

is someone working on something simular? for hr module

Greetings

Markus

On 23.04.2014 07:38, Info SHS-AV wrote:
 Hi Erdem,
 
 I prepared a web page to insert and gather informations about addresses.
 http://www.openerp.enterprises/wiki/OpenERP_Address
 
 You can insert or update data, in Wikimedia format.
 Username is *OpenERP* and password is *developer*
 
 You can find link to OpenERP Developer Community Team
 https://launchpad.net/%7Eopenerp-community
 https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community
 Hope is useful for you.
 
 
 Antonio M. Vigliotti
 
 
 
 
 
 Il 22/04/2014 18:36, Erdem Uney ha scritto:
 Hi all,

 We would like to participate for the Turkish data and maybe some help
 on the Eastern European region. Please add me to group. Have you
 decided which data and how to keep it? Is there an agreed template?

 Cheers,
 Erdem
 7Gates Interactive Technologies | Istanbul - Turkiye 


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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects

2014-04-22 Thread Joël Grand-Guillaume
Sorry for that, I was on holidays.

Thanks for handling this.


On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Lionel Sausin l...@numerigraphe.com wrote:

 Le 19/03/2014 10:18, Joël Grand-Guillaume a écrit :

 Hi Franco,



 That would be a good idea IMO to have such project. Currently we have
 those information in our localization for Switzerland at least. But would
 make sense to have a project for all those kind of information.

 Do you want me to create it ?

 Regards,

 Joël

 I've just created a project and team on Launchpad. I didn't intend to
 short-circuit you but I thought it would be a step forward and that didn't
 need to wait.
 I'm still in the process of making the series/branches/etc but it should
 be done soon.
 Project : https://launchpad.net/openerp-data
 Team : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-data-editors
 I've invited the the community reviewers team to join this new team, I'd
 be glad if the admins accept.

 I'm going to push the branches of openerp-nomenclature to the new project
 - I'm porting them to v7.0 this week if all goes according to the plan.
 Then all merge proposals will be most welcome.

 If any of the above is a problem to anyone, please let me know and I'll do
 my best to improve it !

 Lionel Sausin.




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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects

2014-04-22 Thread Erdem Uney
Hi all,

We would like to participate for the Turkish data and maybe some help on
the Eastern European region. Please add me to group. Have you decided which
data and how to keep it? Is there an agreed template?

Cheers,
Erdem
7Gates Interactive Technologies | Istanbul - Turkiye


 On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Lionel Sausin l...@numerigraphe.comwrote:

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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects

2014-04-22 Thread Info SHS-AV

Hi Erdem,

I prepared a web page to insert and gather informations about addresses.
http://www.openerp.enterprises/wiki/OpenERP_Address

You can insert or update data, in Wikimedia format.
Username is *OpenERP* and password is *developer*

You can find link to OpenERP Developer Community Team 
https://launchpad.net/%7Eopenerp-community 
https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community

Hope is useful for you.


Antonio M. Vigliotti





Il 22/04/2014 18:36, Erdem Uney ha scritto:

Hi all,

We would like to participate for the Turkish data and maybe some help 
on the Eastern European region. Please add me to group. Have you 
decided which data and how to keep it? Is there an agreed template?


Cheers,
Erdem
7Gates Interactive Technologies | Istanbul - Turkiye


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l...@numerigraphe.com mailto:l...@numerigraphe.com wrote:

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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects

2014-03-31 Thread Franco Tampieri
Hi Lionel can you approve my pending subscription?

Regards


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2014-03-25 17:39 GMT+01:00 Lionel Sausin l...@numerigraphe.com:

 Le 19/03/2014 10:18, Joël Grand-Guillaume a écrit :

 Hi Franco,



 That would be a good idea IMO to have such project. Currently we have
 those information in our localization for Switzerland at least. But would
 make sense to have a project for all those kind of information.

 Do you want me to create it ?

 Regards,

 Joël

 I've just created a project and team on Launchpad. I didn't intend to
 short-circuit you but I thought it would be a step forward and that didn't
 need to wait.
 I'm still in the process of making the series/branches/etc but it should
 be done soon.
 Project : https://launchpad.net/openerp-data
 Team : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-data-editors
 I've invited the the community reviewers team to join this new team, I'd
 be glad if the admins accept.

 I'm going to push the branches of openerp-nomenclature to the new project
 - I'm porting them to v7.0 this week if all goes according to the plan.
 Then all merge proposals will be most welcome.

 If any of the above is a problem to anyone, please let me know and I'll do
 my best to improve it !


 Lionel Sausin.

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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects

2014-03-25 Thread Lionel Sausin

Le 19/03/2014 10:18, Joël Grand-Guillaume a écrit :

Hi Franco,


That would be a good idea IMO to have such project. Currently we have 
those information in our localization for Switzerland at least. But 
would make sense to have a project for all those kind of information.


Do you want me to create it ?

Regards,

Joël
I've just created a project and team on Launchpad. I didn't intend to 
short-circuit you but I thought it would be a step forward and that 
didn't need to wait.
I'm still in the process of making the series/branches/etc but it should 
be done soon.

Project : https://launchpad.net/openerp-data
Team : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-data-editors
I've invited the the community reviewers team to join this new team, I'd 
be glad if the admins accept.


I'm going to push the branches of openerp-nomenclature to the new 
project - I'm porting them to v7.0 this week if all goes according to 
the plan.

Then all merge proposals will be most welcome.

If any of the above is a problem to anyone, please let me know and I'll 
do my best to improve it !


Lionel Sausin.

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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects

2014-03-24 Thread Lionel Sausin

Le 19/03/2014 10:18, Joël Grand-Guillaume a écrit :

That would be a good idea IMO to have such project. (...)
Do you want me to create it ?
Sorry I've been off for several days, but now I can create the project 
and team if you prefer.

Otherwise I'll just join the team and send the nomenclatures in.
Lionel.

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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects

2014-03-19 Thread Joël Grand-Guillaume
Hi Franco,


That would be a good idea IMO to have such project. Currently we have those
information in our localization for Switzerland at least. But would make
sense to have a project for all those kind of information.

Do you want me to create it ?

Regards,

Joël






On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Franco Tampieri 
franco.tampi...@abstract.it wrote:

 Hi Joel,

 Last days talking with Lionel, we have though to propose to create a team
 named: openerp-eu-data with subproject openerp-nomenclature: this project
 aims to contains all the data like bank address lists by nation, NACE
 categorization, City/ZIP address list and so on (Only Data in xml file
 format and very very little logic).

 What do you think?






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 2014-03-13 10:23 GMT+01:00 Franco Tampieri franco.tampi...@abstract.it:

 Thats Good!

 Il giovedì 13 marzo 2014, Lionel Sausin l...@numerigraphe.com ha scritto:

 Le 13/03/2014 09:16, Franco Tampieri a écrit :

 Do you think that promote a new project like openerp-eu-data instead
 nomenclature will be more General purpose?

 On the contrary, I think a global project is more effective because it
 would mean a single team.
 In my experience I've seen that adapting the files is a know-how in
 itself: tracing the right sources, getting reliable files, hacking macros
 and scripts to re-format he files, adding translations, making them
 upgradeable...
 On the other hand you don't need to know a lot about the region
 beforehand, because those files are usually well described by the official
 bodies.

 If ever the main branch gets too large, we can always split them into
 region-specific branches inside the same project.

 Lionel.



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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects

2014-03-17 Thread Info SHS-AV

Hi Lionel,
I mismatched purpose of the project, sorry.
However, we should be agree about how store data in software.
And, in order to store data for all, we have to know how every data is 
coded by regional and local people.


So, what localized data we wish manage in this project?
I would like:
1. Local address format
2. Administrative division of countries (may be NUTS)
3. Postal code zone (aka ZIP)
4. Domestic bank, may be useful to check IBAN
5. VAT structure: all EU countries have similar VAT tax
6. Is vatnumer checked by OpenERP for all countries?
7. Some countries, like Italy and Spain, have also the fiscalcode; in 
Italy a business may have 2 vatnumber


In my mind, a common country table defines data structure that every 
local team manages indipendently.


What do think about?





Il 16/03/2014 14:55, Lionel Sausin, de la part de l'équipe informatique 
Numérigraphe ha scritto:

Le 15/03/2014 17:31, Info SHS-AV a écrit :

Agree.
UE team should ask regional teams about domestic structure in order 
to build functional software.

In example, for address, UE team shold require these info:
Address format: Italy -  %(zip) %(city)s %(state_id)s
ZIP format: Italy - 5 digits
ZIP - City relanshionship: Italy - Many2Many
State_id means: Italy - NUTS3
State_id - City relanshionship: Italy - One2Many
... and so on
I am avaiable to prepare a form to gather infomations.

This would fit better in a localization effort than in a data-oriented 
project in my opinion.
I think I already read discussions on this topic but i can't find them 
right now.

Lionel


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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects

2014-03-17 Thread Markus Schneider
hi,

On 17.03.2014 07:58, Info SHS-AV wrote:
 However, we should be agree about how store data in software.

i think the best way is to store it as xml. The two benefits to csv are:

- with xml ids you can update or extend the data in a second module
- you can mark data as no update to give the user the control to
customize the dataset in openerp installation

Greetings

Markus

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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects

2014-03-17 Thread Info SHS-AV


Il 17/03/2014 09:54, Markus Schneider ha scritto:

hi,

On 17.03.2014 07:58, Info SHS-AV wrote:

However, we should be agree about how store data in software.

i think the best way is to store it as xml. The two benefits to csv are:

- with xml ids you can update or extend the data in a second module
- you can mark data as no update to give the user the control to
customize the dataset in openerp installation

Yes I fully agree.
But we have to device how and what data we would record inside xml file

Greetings

Markus



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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects

2014-03-17 Thread Daniel Reis

Quoting Lionel Sausin, de la part de l'équipe informatique Numérigraphe
informati...@numerigraphe.com:


This would fit better in a localization effort than in a  
data-oriented project in my opinion.



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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects

2014-03-15 Thread Franco Tampieri
Hi Joel,

Last days talking with Lionel, we have though to propose to create a team
named: openerp-eu-data with subproject openerp-nomenclature: this project
aims to contains all the data like bank address lists by nation, NACE
categorization, City/ZIP address list and so on (Only Data in xml file
format and very very little logic).

What do you think?




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2014-03-13 10:23 GMT+01:00 Franco Tampieri franco.tampi...@abstract.it:

 Thats Good!

 Il giovedì 13 marzo 2014, Lionel Sausin l...@numerigraphe.com ha scritto:

 Le 13/03/2014 09:16, Franco Tampieri a écrit :

 Do you think that promote a new project like openerp-eu-data instead
 nomenclature will be more General purpose?

 On the contrary, I think a global project is more effective because it
 would mean a single team.
 In my experience I've seen that adapting the files is a know-how in
 itself: tracing the right sources, getting reliable files, hacking macros
 and scripts to re-format he files, adding translations, making them
 upgradeable...
 On the other hand you don't need to know a lot about the region
 beforehand, because those files are usually well described by the official
 bodies.

 If ever the main branch gets too large, we can always split them into
 region-specific branches inside the same project.

 Lionel.



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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects

2014-03-15 Thread Info SHS-AV

It is a good idea!
I would like to partecipate.
I agree about only data in xml.
Very very little logic - No stange field added in web page, natural 
search, natural use




Il 15/03/2014 09:07, Franco Tampieri ha scritto:

Hi Joel,

Last days talking with Lionel, we have though to propose to create a 
team named: openerp-eu-data with subproject openerp-nomenclature: this 
project aims to contains all the data like bank address lists by 
nation, NACE categorization, City/ZIP address list and so on (Only 
Data in xml file format and very very little logic).


What do you think?


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2014-03-13 10:23 GMT+01:00 Franco Tampieri 
franco.tampi...@abstract.it mailto:franco.tampi...@abstract.it:


Thats Good!

Il giovedì 13 marzo 2014, Lionel Sausin l...@numerigraphe.com
mailto:l...@numerigraphe.com ha scritto:

Le 13/03/2014 09:16, Franco Tampieri a écrit :

Do you think that promote a new project like
openerp-eu-data instead nomenclature will be more General
purpose?

On the contrary, I think a global project is more effective
because it would mean a single team.
In my experience I've seen that adapting the files is a
know-how in itself: tracing the right sources, getting
reliable files, hacking macros and scripts to re-format he
files, adding translations, making them upgradeable...
On the other hand you don't need to know a lot about the
region beforehand, because those files are usually well
described by the official bodies.

If ever the main branch gets too large, we can always split
them into region-specific branches inside the same project.

Lionel.



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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects

2014-03-15 Thread Francesco Apruzzese


Il 15/03/2014 09:07, Franco Tampieri ha scritto:

Hi Joel,

Last days talking with Lionel, we have though to propose to create a 
team named: openerp-eu-data with subproject openerp-nomenclature: this 
project aims to contains all the data like bank address lists by 
nation, NACE categorization, City/ZIP address list and so on (Only 
Data in xml file format and very very little logic).


What do you think?


Why XML? Why not CSV?
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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects

2014-03-15 Thread Franco Tampieri
Hi Feancesco!

I prefer XML than CSV for example for the no update feature that prevent to
reload data on update=all

Cheers

Il sabato 15 marzo 2014, Francesco Apruzzese cesc...@gmail.com ha scritto:


 Il 15/03/2014 09:07, Franco Tampieri ha scritto:

  Hi Joel,

 Last days talking with Lionel, we have though to propose to create a team
 named: openerp-eu-data with subproject openerp-nomenclature: this project
 aims to contains all the data like bank address lists by nation, NACE
 categorization, City/ZIP address list and so on (Only Data in xml file
 format and very very little logic).

  What do you think?


 Why XML? Why not CSV?

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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects

2014-03-15 Thread Eric Caudal
+1 could be one localization per continent depending on needs
Eric Caudal (From his mobile)

Franco Tampieri franco.tampi...@abstract.it wrote:

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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects

2014-03-15 Thread Franco Tampieri
+1 for me

Il sabato 15 marzo 2014, Lionel Sausin l...@numerigraphe.com ha scritto:

  Hi,
 As I wrote to Franco Tampieri, I'd rather have a global team because
 eventually the team's work will be more about making quality data files
 than gathering region-specifi knowledge.
 + there are already functional l10n teams, why step on their toes?
 So my plan would rather be:
 - rename the project to openerp-data
 - make a single team openerp-data and cease the project ownership to it
 - make 1 branch per region if we fear the branches become too big
 Does it make sense?
 Lionel.

 Le 15/03/2014 10:36, Eric Caudal a écrit :

 +1 could be one localization per continent depending on needs
 Eric Caudal (From his mobile)

 Franco Tampieri franco.tampi...@abstract.it wrote:

  Hi Joel,

 Last days talking with Lionel, we have though to propose to create a team
 named: openerp-eu-data with subproject openerp-nomenclature: this project
 aims to contains all the data like bank address lists by nation, NACE
 categorization, City/ZIP address list and so on (Only Data in xml file
 format and very very little logic).

  What do you think?





 Franco Tampieri
 System Engineer



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 2014-03-13 10:23 GMT+01:00 Franco Tampieri franco.tampi...@abstract.it:

 Thats Good!

 Il giovedì 13 marzo 2014, Lionel Sausin l...@numerigraphe.com ha scritto:

  Le 13/03/2014 09:16, Franco Tampieri a écrit :

 Do you think that promote a new project like openerp-eu-data instead
 nomenclature will be more General purpose?

 On the contrary, I think a global project is more effective because it
 would mean a single team.
 In my experience I've seen that adapting the files is a know-how in
 itself: tracing the right sources, getting reliable files, hacking macros
 and scripts to re-format he files, adding translations, making them
 upgradeable...
 On the other hand you don't need to know a lot about the region
 beforehand, because those files are usually well described by the official
 bodies.

 If ever the main branch gets too large, we can always split them into
 region-specific branches inside the same project.

 Lionel.



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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects

2014-03-15 Thread Lionel Sausin

Hi,
As I wrote to Franco Tampieri, I'd rather have a global team because 
eventually the team's work will be more about making quality data files 
than gathering region-specifi knowledge.

+ there are already functional l10n teams, why step on their toes?
So my plan would rather be:
- rename the project to openerp-data
- make a single team openerp-data and cease the project ownership to it
- make 1 branch per region if we fear the branches become too big
Does it make sense?
Lionel.

Le 15/03/2014 10:36, Eric Caudal a écrit :

+1 could be one localization per continent depending on needs
Eric Caudal (From his mobile)

Franco Tampieri franco.tampi...@abstract.it wrote:

Hi Joel,

Last days talking with Lionel, we have though to propose to create a 
team named: openerp-eu-data with subproject openerp-nomenclature: this 
project aims to contains all the data like bank address lists by 
nation, NACE categorization, City/ZIP address list and so on (Only 
Data in xml file format and very very little logic).


What do you think?


Franco Tampieri
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2014-03-13 10:23 GMT+01:00 Franco Tampieri 
franco.tampi...@abstract.it mailto:franco.tampi...@abstract.it:


Thats Good!

Il giovedì 13 marzo 2014, Lionel Sausin l...@numerigraphe.com
mailto:l...@numerigraphe.com ha scritto:

Le 13/03/2014 09:16, Franco Tampieri a écrit :

Do you think that promote a new project like
openerp-eu-data instead nomenclature will be more General
purpose?

On the contrary, I think a global project is more effective
because it would mean a single team.
In my experience I've seen that adapting the files is a
know-how in itself: tracing the right sources, getting
reliable files, hacking macros and scripts to re-format he
files, adding translations, making them upgradeable...
On the other hand you don't need to know a lot about the
region beforehand, because those files are usually well
described by the official bodies.

If ever the main branch gets too large, we can always split
them into region-specific branches inside the same project.

Lionel.



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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects

2014-03-15 Thread Franco Tampieri
Il sabato 15 marzo 2014, Lionel Sausin l...@numerigraphe.com ha scritto:

  Le 15/03/2014 12:51, 
 antonio.seque...@multibase.ptjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','antonio.seque...@multibase.pt');a
  écrit :

 Hi,

  Count with us from the portuguese part.

  We have been doing this for our selfs:

- city/zip code
- portuguese holidays
- taxes tables (changing regulary)
- ...

 Does this all fits your idea?

 Totally!


Yes Antonio totally agree too!
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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects

2014-03-15 Thread Info SHS-AV

Agree.
UE team should ask regional teams about domestic structure in order to 
build functional software.

In example, for address, UE team shold require these info:
Address format: Italy -  %(zip) %(city)s %(state_id)s
ZIP format: Italy - 5 digits
ZIP - City relanshionship: Italy - Many2Many
State_id means: Italy - NUTS3
State_id - City relanshionship: Italy - One2Many
... and so on
I am avaiable to prepare a form to gather infomations.



Il 15/03/2014 11:42, Lionel Sausin ha scritto:

Hi,
As I wrote to Franco Tampieri, I'd rather have a global team because 
eventually the team's work will be more about making quality data 
files than gathering region-specifi knowledge.

+ there are already functional l10n teams, why step on their toes?
So my plan would rather be:
- rename the project to openerp-data
- make a single team openerp-data and cease the project ownership to it
- make 1 branch per region if we fear the branches become too big
Does it make sense?
Lionel.



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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects

2014-03-15 Thread Franco Tampieri
Hi Antonio

Can you link a Document with the NUT standard? With that document
other partners can analyze and define toghether a common standard

Do you agree?

Il sabato 15 marzo 2014, Info SHS-AV i...@shs-av.com ha scritto:

  Agree.
 UE team should ask regional teams about domestic structure in order to
 build functional software.
 In example, for address, UE team shold require these info:
 Address format: Italy -  %(zip) %(city)s %(state_id)s
 ZIP format: Italy - 5 digits
 ZIP - City relanshionship: Italy - Many2Many
 State_id means: Italy - NUTS3
 State_id - City relanshionship: Italy - One2Many
 ... and so on
 I am avaiable to prepare a form to gather infomations.



 Il 15/03/2014 11:42, Lionel Sausin ha scritto:

 Hi,
 As I wrote to Franco Tampieri, I'd rather have a global team because
 eventually the team's work will be more about making quality data files
 than gathering region-specifi knowledge.
 + there are already functional l10n teams, why step on their toes?
 So my plan would rather be:
 - rename the project to openerp-data
 - make a single team openerp-data and cease the project ownership to it
 - make 1 branch per region if we fear the branches become too big
 Does it make sense?
 Lionel.


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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects

2014-03-15 Thread Info SHS-AV

Yes I can.
I have internal documentation.
I need a little time to translate in english, if you agreed
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Il 15/03/2014 17:39, Franco Tampieri ha scritto:

Hi Antonio

Can you link a Document with the NUT standard? With that document 
other partners can analyze and define toghether a common standard


Do you agree?

Il sabato 15 marzo 2014, Info SHS-AV i...@shs-av.com 
mailto:i...@shs-av.com ha scritto:


Agree.
UE team should ask regional teams about domestic structure in
order to build functional software.
In example, for address, UE team shold require these info:
Address format: Italy -  %(zip) %(city)s %(state_id)s
ZIP format: Italy - 5 digits
ZIP - City relanshionship: Italy - Many2Many
State_id means: Italy - NUTS3
State_id - City relanshionship: Italy - One2Many
... and so on
I am avaiable to prepare a form to gather infomations.



Il 15/03/2014 11:42, Lionel Sausin ha scritto:

Hi,
As I wrote to Franco Tampieri, I'd rather have a global team
because eventually the team's work will be more about making
quality data files than gathering region-specifi knowledge.
+ there are already functional l10n teams, why step on their toes?
So my plan would rather be:
- rename the project to openerp-data
- make a single team openerp-data and cease the project ownership
to it
- make 1 branch per region if we fear the branches become too big
Does it make sense?
Lionel.



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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects

2014-03-13 Thread Franco Tampieri
Hi Lionel,

I see that you didn't use the XML_id in the data files, I suggest you you
use it to improve
Data updates.

Regards

Franco

Il martedì 11 marzo 2014, Lionel Sausin l...@numerigraphe.com ha scritto:

 Sorry, my mail was sent unfinished so here's a little more context to it.
 Long story short, this project was started when I proposed to include an
 official nomenclature of partner categories from the EU into OpenERP. It
 was well received on the principle, but it was refused nonetheless because
 it would have made the core addons too big.

 By adopting this as a community project, we would have a place where we
 could all add all kinds of official lists : partners or product categories,
 references of food additives, postal codes for many countries...
 We can't easily add those to other projects or we would make them very
 bulky and unpractical.

 Lionel Sausin.

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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects

2014-03-13 Thread Franco Tampieri
I told about the nace region specific files, And Didak you plan to extend
partenr category to insetti the descriptions?

Il giovedì 13 marzo 2014, Franco Tampieri franco.tampi...@abstract.it ha
scritto:

 Hi Lionel,

 I see that you didn't use the XML_id in the data files, I suggest you you
 use it to improve
 Data updates.

 Regards

 Franco

 Il martedì 11 marzo 2014, Lionel Sausin 
 l...@numerigraphe.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','l...@numerigraphe.com');
 ha scritto:

 Sorry, my mail was sent unfinished so here's a little more context to it.
 Long story short, this project was started when I proposed to include an
 official nomenclature of partner categories from the EU into OpenERP. It
 was well received on the principle, but it was refused nonetheless because
 it would have made the core addons too big.

 By adopting this as a community project, we would have a place where we
 could all add all kinds of official lists : partners or product categories,
 references of food additives, postal codes for many countries...
 We can't easily add those to other projects or we would make them very
 bulky and unpractical.

 Lionel Sausin.

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Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects

2014-03-13 Thread Lionel Sausin

Le 13/03/2014 07:40, Franco Tampieri a écrit :

Hi Lionel,

I see that you didn't use the XML_id in the data files, I suggest you 
you use it to improve

Data updates.
Actually in the NACE and NAF files I did (there is a column named id 
in the CSV  files).

Lionel

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