Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects
Hi Markus, I would like to extend in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~hr-core-editors/openerp-hr/7.0/files/head:/hr_public_holidaysthat with a wizard fill that model from a ics calendar source. if you have a more cool idea we can discuss on another thread in community ml. Regards Franco Franco Tampieri System Engineer _ abstract.it - +39 06 9294 6938 Registro Imprese di Napoli 788429 / Cap. Soc. 10.000 Euro I.V. Avvertenze Legali – D. Lgs. 196/03 Tutela dei dati personali. Le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio e in ogni eventuale allegato sono riservate e ne è vietata ogni forma di diffusione. Se avete ricevuto questa comunicazione per errore, Vi preghiamo di informare immediatamente il mittente del messaggio e di eliminare l'e-mail. 2014-04-23 10:37 GMT+02:00 Markus Schneider markus.schnei...@initos.com: just update german information on the wiki we have two data we want to integrate to OpenERP: 1) city - zip code + geoinformation of the city is there a module for other country how to provide this data? 2) holidays is someone working on something simular? for hr module Greetings Markus On 23.04.2014 07:38, Info SHS-AV wrote: Hi Erdem, I prepared a web page to insert and gather informations about addresses. http://www.openerp.enterprises/wiki/OpenERP_Address You can insert or update data, in Wikimedia format. Username is *OpenERP* and password is *developer* You can find link to OpenERP Developer Community Team https://launchpad.net/%7Eopenerp-community https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Hope is useful for you. Antonio M. Vigliotti Il 22/04/2014 18:36, Erdem Uney ha scritto: Hi all, We would like to participate for the Turkish data and maybe some help on the Eastern European region. Please add me to group. Have you decided which data and how to keep it? Is there an agreed template? Cheers, Erdem 7Gates Interactive Technologies | Istanbul - Turkiye On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Lionel Sausin l...@numerigraphe.com mailto:l...@numerigraphe.com wrote: Project : https://launchpad.net/openerp-data Team : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-data-editors https://launchpad.net/%7Eopenerp-data-editors ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Dipl.-Comp.-Math. Markus Schneider Softwareentwickler initOS GmbH Co. KG An der Eisenbahn 1 21224 Rosengarten Mobil: +49 (0)172 2303699 Phone: +49 (0)4105 5615613 Fax: +49 (0)4105 5615610 Email: markus.schnei...@initos.com Web: http://www.initos.com Geschäftsführung: Dipl. Wirt.-Inf. Frederik Kramer Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke Haftende Gesellschafterin: initOS Verwaltungs GmbH Sitz der Gesellschaft: Rosengarten – Klecken Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRA 201840 USt-IdNr: DE 275698169 Steuer-Nr: 15/205/21402 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects
Hi Erdem! Nice to hear you, feel free to put Information on the page. Next level is to prepare a blueprint to prepare a Contact profile guidelines Regards Il mercoledì 23 aprile 2014, Info SHS-AV i...@shs-av.com ha scritto: Hi Erdem, I prepared a web page to insert and gather informations about addresses. http://www.openerp.enterprises/wiki/OpenERP_Address You can insert or update data, in Wikimedia format. Username is *OpenERP* and password is *developer* You can find link to OpenERP Developer Community Teamhttps://launchpad.net/%7Eopenerp-community https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Hope is useful for you. Antonio M. Vigliotti Il 22/04/2014 18:36, Erdem Uney ha scritto: Hi all, We would like to participate for the Turkish data and maybe some help on the Eastern European region. Please add me to group. Have you decided which data and how to keep it? Is there an agreed template? Cheers, Erdem 7Gates Interactive Technologies | Istanbul - Turkiye On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Lionel Sausin l...@numerigraphe.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','l...@numerigraphe.com'); wrote: Project : https://launchpad.net/openerp-data Team : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-data-editors ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net'); Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Franco Tampieri System Engineer _ abstract.it - +39 06 9294 6938 Registro Imprese di Napoli 788429 / Cap. Soc. 10.000 Euro I.V. Avvertenze Legali – D. Lgs. 196/03 Tutela dei dati personali. Le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio e in ogni eventuale allegato sono riservate e ne è vietata ogni forma di diffusione. Se avete ricevuto questa comunicazione per errore, Vi preghiamo di informare immediatamente il mittente del messaggio e di eliminare l'e-mail. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects
just update german information on the wiki we have two data we want to integrate to OpenERP: 1) city - zip code + geoinformation of the city is there a module for other country how to provide this data? 2) holidays is someone working on something simular? for hr module Greetings Markus On 23.04.2014 07:38, Info SHS-AV wrote: Hi Erdem, I prepared a web page to insert and gather informations about addresses. http://www.openerp.enterprises/wiki/OpenERP_Address You can insert or update data, in Wikimedia format. Username is *OpenERP* and password is *developer* You can find link to OpenERP Developer Community Team https://launchpad.net/%7Eopenerp-community https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Hope is useful for you. Antonio M. Vigliotti Il 22/04/2014 18:36, Erdem Uney ha scritto: Hi all, We would like to participate for the Turkish data and maybe some help on the Eastern European region. Please add me to group. Have you decided which data and how to keep it? Is there an agreed template? Cheers, Erdem 7Gates Interactive Technologies | Istanbul - Turkiye On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Lionel Sausin l...@numerigraphe.com mailto:l...@numerigraphe.com wrote: Project : https://launchpad.net/openerp-data Team : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-data-editors https://launchpad.net/%7Eopenerp-data-editors ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Dipl.-Comp.-Math. Markus Schneider Softwareentwickler initOS GmbH Co. KG An der Eisenbahn 1 21224 Rosengarten Mobil: +49 (0)172 2303699 Phone: +49 (0)4105 5615613 Fax: +49 (0)4105 5615610 Email: markus.schnei...@initos.com Web: http://www.initos.com Geschäftsführung: Dipl. Wirt.-Inf. Frederik Kramer Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke Haftende Gesellschafterin: initOS Verwaltungs GmbH Sitz der Gesellschaft: Rosengarten – Klecken Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRA 201840 USt-IdNr: DE 275698169 Steuer-Nr: 15/205/21402 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects
Sorry for that, I was on holidays. Thanks for handling this. On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Lionel Sausin l...@numerigraphe.com wrote: Le 19/03/2014 10:18, Joël Grand-Guillaume a écrit : Hi Franco, That would be a good idea IMO to have such project. Currently we have those information in our localization for Switzerland at least. But would make sense to have a project for all those kind of information. Do you want me to create it ? Regards, Joël I've just created a project and team on Launchpad. I didn't intend to short-circuit you but I thought it would be a step forward and that didn't need to wait. I'm still in the process of making the series/branches/etc but it should be done soon. Project : https://launchpad.net/openerp-data Team : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-data-editors I've invited the the community reviewers team to join this new team, I'd be glad if the admins accept. I'm going to push the branches of openerp-nomenclature to the new project - I'm porting them to v7.0 this week if all goes according to the plan. Then all merge proposals will be most welcome. If any of the above is a problem to anyone, please let me know and I'll do my best to improve it ! Lionel Sausin. -- *camptocamp* INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS BY OPEN SOURCE EXPERTS *Joël Grand-Guillaume* Division Manager Business Solutions +41 21 619 10 28 www.camptocamp.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects
Hi all, We would like to participate for the Turkish data and maybe some help on the Eastern European region. Please add me to group. Have you decided which data and how to keep it? Is there an agreed template? Cheers, Erdem 7Gates Interactive Technologies | Istanbul - Turkiye On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Lionel Sausin l...@numerigraphe.comwrote: Project : https://launchpad.net/openerp-data Team : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-data-editors ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects
Hi Erdem, I prepared a web page to insert and gather informations about addresses. http://www.openerp.enterprises/wiki/OpenERP_Address You can insert or update data, in Wikimedia format. Username is *OpenERP* and password is *developer* You can find link to OpenERP Developer Community Team https://launchpad.net/%7Eopenerp-community https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Hope is useful for you. Antonio M. Vigliotti Il 22/04/2014 18:36, Erdem Uney ha scritto: Hi all, We would like to participate for the Turkish data and maybe some help on the Eastern European region. Please add me to group. Have you decided which data and how to keep it? Is there an agreed template? Cheers, Erdem 7Gates Interactive Technologies | Istanbul - Turkiye On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Lionel Sausin l...@numerigraphe.com mailto:l...@numerigraphe.com wrote: Project : https://launchpad.net/openerp-data Team : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-data-editors https://launchpad.net/%7Eopenerp-data-editors ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects
Hi Lionel can you approve my pending subscription? Regards Franco Tampieri System Engineer _ abstract.it - +39 06 9294 6938 Registro Imprese di Napoli 788429 / Cap. Soc. 10.000 Euro I.V. Avvertenze Legali – D. Lgs. 196/03 Tutela dei dati personali. Le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio e in ogni eventuale allegato sono riservate e ne è vietata ogni forma di diffusione. Se avete ricevuto questa comunicazione per errore, Vi preghiamo di informare immediatamente il mittente del messaggio e di eliminare l'e-mail. 2014-03-25 17:39 GMT+01:00 Lionel Sausin l...@numerigraphe.com: Le 19/03/2014 10:18, Joël Grand-Guillaume a écrit : Hi Franco, That would be a good idea IMO to have such project. Currently we have those information in our localization for Switzerland at least. But would make sense to have a project for all those kind of information. Do you want me to create it ? Regards, Joël I've just created a project and team on Launchpad. I didn't intend to short-circuit you but I thought it would be a step forward and that didn't need to wait. I'm still in the process of making the series/branches/etc but it should be done soon. Project : https://launchpad.net/openerp-data Team : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-data-editors I've invited the the community reviewers team to join this new team, I'd be glad if the admins accept. I'm going to push the branches of openerp-nomenclature to the new project - I'm porting them to v7.0 this week if all goes according to the plan. Then all merge proposals will be most welcome. If any of the above is a problem to anyone, please let me know and I'll do my best to improve it ! Lionel Sausin. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects
Le 19/03/2014 10:18, Joël Grand-Guillaume a écrit : Hi Franco, That would be a good idea IMO to have such project. Currently we have those information in our localization for Switzerland at least. But would make sense to have a project for all those kind of information. Do you want me to create it ? Regards, Joël I've just created a project and team on Launchpad. I didn't intend to short-circuit you but I thought it would be a step forward and that didn't need to wait. I'm still in the process of making the series/branches/etc but it should be done soon. Project : https://launchpad.net/openerp-data Team : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-data-editors I've invited the the community reviewers team to join this new team, I'd be glad if the admins accept. I'm going to push the branches of openerp-nomenclature to the new project - I'm porting them to v7.0 this week if all goes according to the plan. Then all merge proposals will be most welcome. If any of the above is a problem to anyone, please let me know and I'll do my best to improve it ! Lionel Sausin. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects
Le 19/03/2014 10:18, Joël Grand-Guillaume a écrit : That would be a good idea IMO to have such project. (...) Do you want me to create it ? Sorry I've been off for several days, but now I can create the project and team if you prefer. Otherwise I'll just join the team and send the nomenclatures in. Lionel. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects
Hi Franco, That would be a good idea IMO to have such project. Currently we have those information in our localization for Switzerland at least. But would make sense to have a project for all those kind of information. Do you want me to create it ? Regards, Joël On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Franco Tampieri franco.tampi...@abstract.it wrote: Hi Joel, Last days talking with Lionel, we have though to propose to create a team named: openerp-eu-data with subproject openerp-nomenclature: this project aims to contains all the data like bank address lists by nation, NACE categorization, City/ZIP address list and so on (Only Data in xml file format and very very little logic). What do you think? Franco Tampieri System Engineer _ abstract.it - +39 06 9294 6938 Registro Imprese di Napoli 788429 / Cap. Soc. 10.000 Euro I.V. Avvertenze Legali - D. Lgs. 196/03 Tutela dei dati personali. Le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio e in ogni eventuale allegato sono riservate e ne è vietata ogni forma di diffusione. Se avete ricevuto questa comunicazione per errore, Vi preghiamo di informare immediatamente il mittente del messaggio e di eliminare l'e-mail. 2014-03-13 10:23 GMT+01:00 Franco Tampieri franco.tampi...@abstract.it: Thats Good! Il giovedì 13 marzo 2014, Lionel Sausin l...@numerigraphe.com ha scritto: Le 13/03/2014 09:16, Franco Tampieri a écrit : Do you think that promote a new project like openerp-eu-data instead nomenclature will be more General purpose? On the contrary, I think a global project is more effective because it would mean a single team. In my experience I've seen that adapting the files is a know-how in itself: tracing the right sources, getting reliable files, hacking macros and scripts to re-format he files, adding translations, making them upgradeable... On the other hand you don't need to know a lot about the region beforehand, because those files are usually well described by the official bodies. If ever the main branch gets too large, we can always split them into region-specific branches inside the same project. Lionel. -- Franco Tampieri System Engineer _ abstract.it - +39 06 9294 6938 Registro Imprese di Napoli 788429 / Cap. Soc. 10.000 Euro I.V. Avvertenze Legali - D. Lgs. 196/03 Tutela dei dati personali. Le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio e in ogni eventuale allegato sono riservate e ne è vietata ogni forma di diffusione. Se avete ricevuto questa comunicazione per errore, Vi preghiamo di informare immediatamente il mittente del messaggio e di eliminare l'e-mail. -- *camptocamp* INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS BY OPEN SOURCE EXPERTS *Joël Grand-Guillaume* Division Manager Business Solutions +41 21 619 10 28 www.camptocamp.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects
Hi Lionel, I mismatched purpose of the project, sorry. However, we should be agree about how store data in software. And, in order to store data for all, we have to know how every data is coded by regional and local people. So, what localized data we wish manage in this project? I would like: 1. Local address format 2. Administrative division of countries (may be NUTS) 3. Postal code zone (aka ZIP) 4. Domestic bank, may be useful to check IBAN 5. VAT structure: all EU countries have similar VAT tax 6. Is vatnumer checked by OpenERP for all countries? 7. Some countries, like Italy and Spain, have also the fiscalcode; in Italy a business may have 2 vatnumber In my mind, a common country table defines data structure that every local team manages indipendently. What do think about? Il 16/03/2014 14:55, Lionel Sausin, de la part de l'équipe informatique Numérigraphe ha scritto: Le 15/03/2014 17:31, Info SHS-AV a écrit : Agree. UE team should ask regional teams about domestic structure in order to build functional software. In example, for address, UE team shold require these info: Address format: Italy - %(zip) %(city)s %(state_id)s ZIP format: Italy - 5 digits ZIP - City relanshionship: Italy - Many2Many State_id means: Italy - NUTS3 State_id - City relanshionship: Italy - One2Many ... and so on I am avaiable to prepare a form to gather infomations. This would fit better in a localization effort than in a data-oriented project in my opinion. I think I already read discussions on this topic but i can't find them right now. Lionel ___ Mailing list: openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Antonio M. Vigliotti ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects
hi, On 17.03.2014 07:58, Info SHS-AV wrote: However, we should be agree about how store data in software. i think the best way is to store it as xml. The two benefits to csv are: - with xml ids you can update or extend the data in a second module - you can mark data as no update to give the user the control to customize the dataset in openerp installation Greetings Markus -- Dipl.-Comp.-Math. Markus Schneider Softwareentwickler initOS GmbH Co. KG An der Eisenbahn 1 21224 Rosengarten Mobil: +49 (0)172 2303699 Phone: +49 (0)4105 5615613 Fax: +49 (0)4105 5615610 Email: markus.schnei...@initos.com Web: http://www.initos.com Geschäftsführung: Dipl. Wirt.-Inf. Frederik Kramer Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke Haftende Gesellschafterin: initOS Verwaltungs GmbH Sitz der Gesellschaft: Rosengarten – Klecken Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRA 201840 USt-IdNr: DE 275698169 Steuer-Nr: 15/205/21402 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects
Il 17/03/2014 09:54, Markus Schneider ha scritto: hi, On 17.03.2014 07:58, Info SHS-AV wrote: However, we should be agree about how store data in software. i think the best way is to store it as xml. The two benefits to csv are: - with xml ids you can update or extend the data in a second module - you can mark data as no update to give the user the control to customize the dataset in openerp installation Yes I fully agree. But we have to device how and what data we would record inside xml file Greetings Markus -- Antonio M. Vigliotti ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects
Quoting Lionel Sausin, de la part de l'équipe informatique Numérigraphe informati...@numerigraphe.com: This would fit better in a localization effort than in a data-oriented project in my opinion. +1 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects
Hi Joel, Last days talking with Lionel, we have though to propose to create a team named: openerp-eu-data with subproject openerp-nomenclature: this project aims to contains all the data like bank address lists by nation, NACE categorization, City/ZIP address list and so on (Only Data in xml file format and very very little logic). What do you think? Franco Tampieri System Engineer _ abstract.it - +39 06 9294 6938 Registro Imprese di Napoli 788429 / Cap. Soc. 10.000 Euro I.V. Avvertenze Legali – D. Lgs. 196/03 Tutela dei dati personali. Le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio e in ogni eventuale allegato sono riservate e ne è vietata ogni forma di diffusione. Se avete ricevuto questa comunicazione per errore, Vi preghiamo di informare immediatamente il mittente del messaggio e di eliminare l'e-mail. 2014-03-13 10:23 GMT+01:00 Franco Tampieri franco.tampi...@abstract.it: Thats Good! Il giovedì 13 marzo 2014, Lionel Sausin l...@numerigraphe.com ha scritto: Le 13/03/2014 09:16, Franco Tampieri a écrit : Do you think that promote a new project like openerp-eu-data instead nomenclature will be more General purpose? On the contrary, I think a global project is more effective because it would mean a single team. In my experience I've seen that adapting the files is a know-how in itself: tracing the right sources, getting reliable files, hacking macros and scripts to re-format he files, adding translations, making them upgradeable... On the other hand you don't need to know a lot about the region beforehand, because those files are usually well described by the official bodies. If ever the main branch gets too large, we can always split them into region-specific branches inside the same project. Lionel. -- Franco Tampieri System Engineer _ abstract.it - +39 06 9294 6938 Registro Imprese di Napoli 788429 / Cap. Soc. 10.000 Euro I.V. Avvertenze Legali – D. Lgs. 196/03 Tutela dei dati personali. Le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio e in ogni eventuale allegato sono riservate e ne è vietata ogni forma di diffusione. Se avete ricevuto questa comunicazione per errore, Vi preghiamo di informare immediatamente il mittente del messaggio e di eliminare l'e-mail. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects
It is a good idea! I would like to partecipate. I agree about only data in xml. Very very little logic - No stange field added in web page, natural search, natural use Il 15/03/2014 09:07, Franco Tampieri ha scritto: Hi Joel, Last days talking with Lionel, we have though to propose to create a team named: openerp-eu-data with subproject openerp-nomenclature: this project aims to contains all the data like bank address lists by nation, NACE categorization, City/ZIP address list and so on (Only Data in xml file format and very very little logic). What do you think? Franco Tampieri System Engineer _ abstract.it http://abstract.it - +39 06 9294 6938 Registro Imprese di Napoli 788429 / Cap. Soc. 10.000 Euro I.V. Avvertenze Legali -- D. Lgs. 196/03 Tutela dei dati personali. Le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio e in ogni eventuale allegato sono riservate e ne è vietata ogni forma di diffusione. Se avete ricevuto questa comunicazione per errore, Vi preghiamo di informare immediatamente il mittente del messaggio e di eliminare l'e-mail. 2014-03-13 10:23 GMT+01:00 Franco Tampieri franco.tampi...@abstract.it mailto:franco.tampi...@abstract.it: Thats Good! Il giovedì 13 marzo 2014, Lionel Sausin l...@numerigraphe.com mailto:l...@numerigraphe.com ha scritto: Le 13/03/2014 09:16, Franco Tampieri a écrit : Do you think that promote a new project like openerp-eu-data instead nomenclature will be more General purpose? On the contrary, I think a global project is more effective because it would mean a single team. In my experience I've seen that adapting the files is a know-how in itself: tracing the right sources, getting reliable files, hacking macros and scripts to re-format he files, adding translations, making them upgradeable... On the other hand you don't need to know a lot about the region beforehand, because those files are usually well described by the official bodies. If ever the main branch gets too large, we can always split them into region-specific branches inside the same project. Lionel. -- Franco Tampieri System Engineer _ abstract.it http://abstract.it - +39 06 9294 6938 Registro Imprese di Napoli 788429 / Cap. Soc. 10.000 Euro I.V. Avvertenze Legali -- D. Lgs. 196/03 Tutela dei dati personali. Le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio e in ogni eventuale allegato sono riservate e ne è vietata ogni forma di diffusione. Se avete ricevuto questa comunicazione per errore, Vi preghiamo di informare immediatamente il mittente del messaggio e di eliminare l'e-mail. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Antonio M. Vigliotti (Presidente Chief Technical Officer) *SHS-AV s.r.l. (impresa innovativa) zeroincombenze® * Via Domodossola, 64 - 10145 TORINO - ITALY Tel. (+39) 011.0566929(2) www.shs-av.com PEC shs...@legalmail.it ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects
Il 15/03/2014 09:07, Franco Tampieri ha scritto: Hi Joel, Last days talking with Lionel, we have though to propose to create a team named: openerp-eu-data with subproject openerp-nomenclature: this project aims to contains all the data like bank address lists by nation, NACE categorization, City/ZIP address list and so on (Only Data in xml file format and very very little logic). What do you think? Why XML? Why not CSV? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects
Hi Feancesco! I prefer XML than CSV for example for the no update feature that prevent to reload data on update=all Cheers Il sabato 15 marzo 2014, Francesco Apruzzese cesc...@gmail.com ha scritto: Il 15/03/2014 09:07, Franco Tampieri ha scritto: Hi Joel, Last days talking with Lionel, we have though to propose to create a team named: openerp-eu-data with subproject openerp-nomenclature: this project aims to contains all the data like bank address lists by nation, NACE categorization, City/ZIP address list and so on (Only Data in xml file format and very very little logic). What do you think? Why XML? Why not CSV? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
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+1 could be one localization per continent depending on needs Eric Caudal (From his mobile) Franco Tampieri franco.tampi...@abstract.it wrote: ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
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+1 for me Il sabato 15 marzo 2014, Lionel Sausin l...@numerigraphe.com ha scritto: Hi, As I wrote to Franco Tampieri, I'd rather have a global team because eventually the team's work will be more about making quality data files than gathering region-specifi knowledge. + there are already functional l10n teams, why step on their toes? So my plan would rather be: - rename the project to openerp-data - make a single team openerp-data and cease the project ownership to it - make 1 branch per region if we fear the branches become too big Does it make sense? Lionel. Le 15/03/2014 10:36, Eric Caudal a écrit : +1 could be one localization per continent depending on needs Eric Caudal (From his mobile) Franco Tampieri franco.tampi...@abstract.it wrote: Hi Joel, Last days talking with Lionel, we have though to propose to create a team named: openerp-eu-data with subproject openerp-nomenclature: this project aims to contains all the data like bank address lists by nation, NACE categorization, City/ZIP address list and so on (Only Data in xml file format and very very little logic). What do you think? Franco Tampieri System Engineer _ abstract.it - +39 06 9294 6938 Registro Imprese di Napoli 788429 / Cap. Soc. 10.000 Euro I.V. Avvertenze Legali – D. Lgs. 196/03 Tutela dei dati personali. Le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio e in ogni eventuale allegato sono riservate e ne è vietata ogni forma di diffusione. Se avete ricevuto questa comunicazione per errore, Vi preghiamo di informare immediatamente il mittente del messaggio e di eliminare l'e-mail. 2014-03-13 10:23 GMT+01:00 Franco Tampieri franco.tampi...@abstract.it: Thats Good! Il giovedì 13 marzo 2014, Lionel Sausin l...@numerigraphe.com ha scritto: Le 13/03/2014 09:16, Franco Tampieri a écrit : Do you think that promote a new project like openerp-eu-data instead nomenclature will be more General purpose? On the contrary, I think a global project is more effective because it would mean a single team. In my experience I've seen that adapting the files is a know-how in itself: tracing the right sources, getting reliable files, hacking macros and scripts to re-format he files, adding translations, making them upgradeable... On the other hand you don't need to know a lot about the region beforehand, because those files are usually well described by the official bodies. If ever the main branch gets too large, we can always split them into region-specific branches inside the same project. Lionel. -- -- Franco Tampieri System Engineer _ abstract.it - +39 06 9294 6938 Registro Imprese di Napoli 788429 / Cap. Soc. 10.000 Euro I.V. Avvertenze Legali – D. Lgs. 196/03 Tutela dei dati personali. Le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio e in ogni eventuale allegato sono riservate e ne è vietata ogni forma di diffusione. Se avete ricevuto questa comunicazione per errore, Vi preghiamo di informare immediatamente il mittente del messaggio e di eliminare l'e-mail. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects
Hi, As I wrote to Franco Tampieri, I'd rather have a global team because eventually the team's work will be more about making quality data files than gathering region-specifi knowledge. + there are already functional l10n teams, why step on their toes? So my plan would rather be: - rename the project to openerp-data - make a single team openerp-data and cease the project ownership to it - make 1 branch per region if we fear the branches become too big Does it make sense? Lionel. Le 15/03/2014 10:36, Eric Caudal a écrit : +1 could be one localization per continent depending on needs Eric Caudal (From his mobile) Franco Tampieri franco.tampi...@abstract.it wrote: Hi Joel, Last days talking with Lionel, we have though to propose to create a team named: openerp-eu-data with subproject openerp-nomenclature: this project aims to contains all the data like bank address lists by nation, NACE categorization, City/ZIP address list and so on (Only Data in xml file format and very very little logic). What do you think? Franco Tampieri System Engineer _ abstract.it http://abstract.it - +39 06 9294 6938 Registro Imprese di Napoli 788429 / Cap. Soc. 10.000 Euro I.V. Avvertenze Legali – D. Lgs. 196/03 Tutela dei dati personali. Le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio e in ogni eventuale allegato sono riservate e ne è vietata ogni forma di diffusione. Se avete ricevuto questa comunicazione per errore, Vi preghiamo di informare immediatamente il mittente del messaggio e di eliminare l'e-mail. 2014-03-13 10:23 GMT+01:00 Franco Tampieri franco.tampi...@abstract.it mailto:franco.tampi...@abstract.it: Thats Good! Il giovedì 13 marzo 2014, Lionel Sausin l...@numerigraphe.com mailto:l...@numerigraphe.com ha scritto: Le 13/03/2014 09:16, Franco Tampieri a écrit : Do you think that promote a new project like openerp-eu-data instead nomenclature will be more General purpose? On the contrary, I think a global project is more effective because it would mean a single team. In my experience I've seen that adapting the files is a know-how in itself: tracing the right sources, getting reliable files, hacking macros and scripts to re-format he files, adding translations, making them upgradeable... On the other hand you don't need to know a lot about the region beforehand, because those files are usually well described by the official bodies. If ever the main branch gets too large, we can always split them into region-specific branches inside the same project. Lionel. -- Franco Tampieri System Engineer _ abstract.it http://abstract.it - +39 06 9294 6938 Registro Imprese di Napoli 788429 / Cap. Soc. 10.000 Euro I.V. Avvertenze Legali – D. Lgs. 196/03 Tutela dei dati personali. Le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio e in ogni eventuale allegato sono riservate e ne è vietata ogni forma di diffusione. Se avete ricevuto questa comunicazione per errore, Vi preghiamo di informare immediatamente il mittente del messaggio e di eliminare l'e-mail. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
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Il sabato 15 marzo 2014, Lionel Sausin l...@numerigraphe.com ha scritto: Le 15/03/2014 12:51, antonio.seque...@multibase.ptjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','antonio.seque...@multibase.pt');a écrit : Hi, Count with us from the portuguese part. We have been doing this for our selfs: - city/zip code - portuguese holidays - taxes tables (changing regulary) - ... Does this all fits your idea? Totally! Yes Antonio totally agree too! ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects
Agree. UE team should ask regional teams about domestic structure in order to build functional software. In example, for address, UE team shold require these info: Address format: Italy - %(zip) %(city)s %(state_id)s ZIP format: Italy - 5 digits ZIP - City relanshionship: Italy - Many2Many State_id means: Italy - NUTS3 State_id - City relanshionship: Italy - One2Many ... and so on I am avaiable to prepare a form to gather infomations. Il 15/03/2014 11:42, Lionel Sausin ha scritto: Hi, As I wrote to Franco Tampieri, I'd rather have a global team because eventually the team's work will be more about making quality data files than gathering region-specifi knowledge. + there are already functional l10n teams, why step on their toes? So my plan would rather be: - rename the project to openerp-data - make a single team openerp-data and cease the project ownership to it - make 1 branch per region if we fear the branches become too big Does it make sense? Lionel. -- Antonio M. Vigliotti ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects
Hi Antonio Can you link a Document with the NUT standard? With that document other partners can analyze and define toghether a common standard Do you agree? Il sabato 15 marzo 2014, Info SHS-AV i...@shs-av.com ha scritto: Agree. UE team should ask regional teams about domestic structure in order to build functional software. In example, for address, UE team shold require these info: Address format: Italy - %(zip) %(city)s %(state_id)s ZIP format: Italy - 5 digits ZIP - City relanshionship: Italy - Many2Many State_id means: Italy - NUTS3 State_id - City relanshionship: Italy - One2Many ... and so on I am avaiable to prepare a form to gather infomations. Il 15/03/2014 11:42, Lionel Sausin ha scritto: Hi, As I wrote to Franco Tampieri, I'd rather have a global team because eventually the team's work will be more about making quality data files than gathering region-specifi knowledge. + there are already functional l10n teams, why step on their toes? So my plan would rather be: - rename the project to openerp-data - make a single team openerp-data and cease the project ownership to it - make 1 branch per region if we fear the branches become too big Does it make sense? Lionel. -- Antonio M. Vigliotti ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
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Yes I can. I have internal documentation. I need a little time to translate in english, if you agreed -- Antonio M. Vigliotti Il 15/03/2014 17:39, Franco Tampieri ha scritto: Hi Antonio Can you link a Document with the NUT standard? With that document other partners can analyze and define toghether a common standard Do you agree? Il sabato 15 marzo 2014, Info SHS-AV i...@shs-av.com mailto:i...@shs-av.com ha scritto: Agree. UE team should ask regional teams about domestic structure in order to build functional software. In example, for address, UE team shold require these info: Address format: Italy - %(zip) %(city)s %(state_id)s ZIP format: Italy - 5 digits ZIP - City relanshionship: Italy - Many2Many State_id means: Italy - NUTS3 State_id - City relanshionship: Italy - One2Many ... and so on I am avaiable to prepare a form to gather infomations. Il 15/03/2014 11:42, Lionel Sausin ha scritto: Hi, As I wrote to Franco Tampieri, I'd rather have a global team because eventually the team's work will be more about making quality data files than gathering region-specifi knowledge. + there are already functional l10n teams, why step on their toes? So my plan would rather be: - rename the project to openerp-data - make a single team openerp-data and cease the project ownership to it - make 1 branch per region if we fear the branches become too big Does it make sense? Lionel. -- Antonio M. Vigliotti ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects
Hi Lionel, I see that you didn't use the XML_id in the data files, I suggest you you use it to improve Data updates. Regards Franco Il martedì 11 marzo 2014, Lionel Sausin l...@numerigraphe.com ha scritto: Sorry, my mail was sent unfinished so here's a little more context to it. Long story short, this project was started when I proposed to include an official nomenclature of partner categories from the EU into OpenERP. It was well received on the principle, but it was refused nonetheless because it would have made the core addons too big. By adopting this as a community project, we would have a place where we could all add all kinds of official lists : partners or product categories, references of food additives, postal codes for many countries... We can't easily add those to other projects or we would make them very bulky and unpractical. Lionel Sausin. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Franco Tampieri System Engineer _ abstract.it - +39 06 9294 6938 Registro Imprese di Napoli 788429 / Cap. Soc. 10.000 Euro I.V. Avvertenze Legali – D. Lgs. 196/03 Tutela dei dati personali. Le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio e in ogni eventuale allegato sono riservate e ne è vietata ogni forma di diffusione. Se avete ricevuto questa comunicazione per errore, Vi preghiamo di informare immediatamente il mittente del messaggio e di eliminare l'e-mail. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openerp-community] Rationale for proposing the project openerp-nomenclature to join the OCA projects
I told about the nace region specific files, And Didak you plan to extend partenr category to insetti the descriptions? Il giovedì 13 marzo 2014, Franco Tampieri franco.tampi...@abstract.it ha scritto: Hi Lionel, I see that you didn't use the XML_id in the data files, I suggest you you use it to improve Data updates. Regards Franco Il martedì 11 marzo 2014, Lionel Sausin l...@numerigraphe.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','l...@numerigraphe.com'); ha scritto: Sorry, my mail was sent unfinished so here's a little more context to it. Long story short, this project was started when I proposed to include an official nomenclature of partner categories from the EU into OpenERP. It was well received on the principle, but it was refused nonetheless because it would have made the core addons too big. By adopting this as a community project, we would have a place where we could all add all kinds of official lists : partners or product categories, references of food additives, postal codes for many countries... We can't easily add those to other projects or we would make them very bulky and unpractical. Lionel Sausin. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Franco Tampieri System Engineer _ abstract.it - +39 06 9294 6938 Registro Imprese di Napoli 788429 / Cap. Soc. 10.000 Euro I.V. Avvertenze Legali – D. Lgs. 196/03 Tutela dei dati personali. Le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio e in ogni eventuale allegato sono riservate e ne è vietata ogni forma di diffusione. Se avete ricevuto questa comunicazione per errore, Vi preghiamo di informare immediatamente il mittente del messaggio e di eliminare l'e-mail. -- Franco Tampieri System Engineer _ abstract.it - +39 06 9294 6938 Registro Imprese di Napoli 788429 / Cap. Soc. 10.000 Euro I.V. Avvertenze Legali – D. Lgs. 196/03 Tutela dei dati personali. Le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio e in ogni eventuale allegato sono riservate e ne è vietata ogni forma di diffusione. Se avete ricevuto questa comunicazione per errore, Vi preghiamo di informare immediatamente il mittente del messaggio e di eliminare l'e-mail. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
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Le 13/03/2014 07:40, Franco Tampieri a écrit : Hi Lionel, I see that you didn't use the XML_id in the data files, I suggest you you use it to improve Data updates. Actually in the NACE and NAF files I did (there is a column named id in the CSV files). Lionel ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community Post to : openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openerp-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp