Re: [OpenFontLibrary] [Open Font Library] Upload Flagged

2009-03-04 Thread Dave Crossland
I have hidden the file.


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] [Open Font Library] Upload Flagged

2009-03-04 Thread Dave Crossland
Yup emailed him

On 4 Mar 2009, 9:08 AM, Jon Phillips j...@rejon.org wrote:

Did you email them too? If not good, just delete IMO.

Jon

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Dave Crossland d...@lab6.com wrote:  I
have hidden the file.  ...
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Re: [OpenFontLibrary] [Open Font Library] Upload Flagged

2009-03-04 Thread Nicolas Spalinger
pa...@canopus.iacp.dvo.ru wrote:
 Content has been flagged
 Upload: Asana Math
 URL: http://openfontlibrary.org/media/files/asyropoulos/219
 IP: 127.0.0.1
 Flagger: panov
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 Asana Math violates the terms of the GPLv2 while it based on URW Palladio 
 font.
 -

Do you have any sources about Palladio?

There was a thread earlier *on this very list* which indicated that
upstream pxfonts had given permission for relicensing:

http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/openfontlibrary/2008-July/001076.html



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Re: [OpenFontLibrary] [Open Font Library] Upload Flagged

2009-03-04 Thread Dave Crossland
I'm not sure these challenges are motivating, recalling Gustavo F... we do
what we can.

On 4 Mar 2009, 7:25 PM, Jon Phillips j...@rejon.org wrote:

Ok, I challenge you to lead the audit. I also challenge Raph to help to.

At the end of the day, whoever gets this done, and gets the site up
I'm looking forward to.

I personally will help get the site up asap, and am eager to get this
project on regular track(s) as well :)

Jon

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Nicolas Spalinger

nicolas_spalin...@sil.org wrote:

 Jon Phillips wrote:  Actually, I think we should launch asap. If there
are problematic  fonts,...

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Re: [OpenFontLibrary] [Open Font Library] Upload Flagged

2009-03-04 Thread Jon Phillips
This is true :) They aren't motivating. And, this is true, we are all
volunteering.

I'll keep on getting the install ported, and hope you guys will be
inspired to help out. :)

At the end of the day though, have to get the work done in making the
project good, which you Dave, have really taking to the next level
with your sponsorship!

Jon

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Dave Crossland d...@lab6.com wrote:
 I'm not sure these challenges are motivating, recalling Gustavo F... we do
 what we can.

 On 4 Mar 2009, 7:25 PM, Jon Phillips j...@rejon.org wrote:

 Ok, I challenge you to lead the audit. I also challenge Raph to help to.

 At the end of the day, whoever gets this done, and gets the site up
 I'm looking forward to.

 I personally will help get the site up asap, and am eager to get this
 project on regular track(s) as well :)

 Jon

 On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Nicolas Spalinger

 nicolas_spalin...@sil.org wrote:

 Jon Phillips wrote:  Actually, I think we should launch asap. If there
 are problematic  fonts,...

 -- Jon Phillips http://rejon.org/



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Re: [OpenFontLibrary] [Open Font Library] Upload Flagged

2009-03-04 Thread Dave Crossland
2009/3/4 Jon Phillips j...@rejon.org:
 hope you guys will be
 inspired to help out. :)

I'm behind on schoolwork so sadly til I catch up I cant :(


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] [Open Font Library] Upload Flagged

2009-03-04 Thread Nicolas Spalinger
Jon Phillips wrote:
 Ok, I challenge you to lead the audit. I also challenge Raph to help to.

Well, I'll do my best to help with this. (Don't think Raph will have
time). We're all busy but hopefully it doesn't mean we loose sight of
the goal of a trustworthy quality open font library.

 At the end of the day, whoever gets this done, and gets the site up
 I'm looking forward to.

True. I didn't mean to sound negative.

 I personally will help get the site up asap, and am eager to get this
 project on regular track(s) as well :)

And thanks a lot for all you've done so far :-)

 Jon


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Re: [OpenFontLibrary] [Open Font Library] Upload Flagged

2009-03-04 Thread Dave Crossland
2009/3/4 Nicolas Spalinger nicolas_spalin...@sil.org:
 Via recent email discussion with Asana Math's author he explains that:

 - he hasn't touched Palladio
 - pxfonts was used as the basis of his design for many glyphs but not
 everything
 - he has explicit permission to relicence from the author of pxfonts

 I recommended he put this information in a more complete readme file (or
 better a FONTLOG http://openfontlibrary.org/wiki/Fontlog ) and in the
 font metadata.

 There was ftp://ftp.inria.fr/pub/TeX/CTAN/fonts/Asana-Math/README.1ST
 already.

 We should take this in good faith

Yes, therefore I have made Asana public again at
http://openfontlibrary.org/media/files/publish/asyropoulos/219

I would like to publicly offer my sincere apologies to Apostolos for
not asking him first about the font's origins before I hid it.

This is clearly not the right procedure to take when a font is flagged
as unsafe; ask questions first, shoot the font later :-)

Cheers,
Dave


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] [Open Font Library] Upload Flagged

2009-03-04 Thread Dave Crossland
2009/3/4 Nicolas Spalinger nicolas_spalin...@sil.org:
 if there are problems upstream of
  pxfonts itself, then it's another story...

Right.

Well, I've just opened p52003l.pfb from the Ubuntu gsfonts package,
and Asana from the OFLB, and the pxfonts at
http://www.ctan.org/get/fonts/pxfonts.zip from
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/fonts/pxfonts/

That pxfonts zip contains a few dozen small font files, with a lot of
maths related glyphs, and none of the standard roman glyphs abcde...

The URW Palladio has all the roman glyphs and none of the fancy maths ones.

Asana has both, but there are often some subtle differences from URW
and Asana, and sometimes not...

http://dave.lab6.com/acid/dump/2009/urw_asana_1.png
http://dave.lab6.com/acid/dump/2009/urw_asana_1_zoom.png
http://dave.lab6.com/acid/dump/2009/urw_asana_a.png
http://dave.lab6.com/acid/dump/2009/urw_px_asana_copyright-handles.png
http://dave.lab6.com/acid/dump/2009/urw_px_asana_copyright.png
http://dave.lab6.com/acid/dump/2009/urw_px_asana_dollars.png

-- 
Regards,
Dave


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] [Open Font Library] Upload Flagged

2009-03-04 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:07 AM, Ed Trager wrote:

 If you know the right people (preferably those who control purse
 strings ;-) ) at Wikimedia, please keep plugging OFLB and see if we
 can get some $ from Wikimedia foundation to get OFLB done properly.

I actually know Brianna from WIkimedia --- she participated at
Inkscape Book Sprint in Paris last year. But I'm not really sure that
Wikimedia has any $, not speaking about $$ or $$$, to share.

Alexandre


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] [Open Font Library] Upload Flagged

2009-03-04 Thread Ben Weiner

Hi all,

Ed Trager wrote:

I agree 100% with Nicolas on this one.
  

As do I!

OpenFontLibrary needs to be of the highest quality on every front.

The font analysis program I'm working on (fontaine) will be able to
tell you what is in the Copyright and License fields of a TTF or OTF
font file, so hopefully that will serve as a first line of defense on
the new site.

Maybe fontaine can help speed up the audit of fonts that are already
on the site (once I get fontaine to a releasable point, that is ...)
  
Having seen what the prelease code can do, I'm certain it will be of 
great help in this respect and several others.


Ben

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