[OpenFontLibrary] Server Side SVG

2010-04-22 Thread Fontfreedom
So, what was the name of that server side svg renderer written in C which  
you were mentioning today?
 
C and C++ are my favorite tools to develop websites with, btw...
 
PHP certainly has it's place, but apparently mere mortals are able to  
code in PHP as well.
 
 
--Eric Way


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Server Side SVG

2010-04-22 Thread Jon Phillips
rsvg

On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 11:37 PM,  fontfree...@aol.com wrote:
 So, what was the name of that server side svg renderer written in C which
 you were mentioning today?

 C and C++ are my favorite tools to develop websites with, btw...

 PHP certainly has it's place, but apparently mere mortals are able to code
 in PHP as well.


 --Eric Way



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Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Kernest’s Web Font Serving E ngine – Fontue – Now Open Source

2010-04-22 Thread Nicolas Spalinger
On 04/22/2010 02:15 AM, Barry Schwartz wrote:
 Nicolas Spalinger nicolas_spalin...@sil.org skribis:
 I like the way you're not hiding the origin, license and other metadata
 of the libre/open fonts you include in your catalog  (Ahem unlike others
 apparently: http://readableweb.com/typekit-and-copyright-fraud/ but they
 promised they will work on clarifying it..)
 
 More like blog fraud, if you ask me. :) But TypeKit did make the
 mistake of writing language that sounds legal, rather than
 English. (The ISC license is the only I can think of that is written
 in English, and for that you have to disregard the disclaimer, which
 is written in Alpha Centauran.)

Ha ha ha :-D  I thought that the Alpha Centaurans would be using a more
complicated writing system... but they just go for CAPITAL LETTERS then?
Hey, that would explain the high quality of OpenBSD ;-D

Seriously, the general mistake is mislabeling and miscategorizing
creations that upstream authors have released under their chosen
licenses (whatever it may be) and sweeping that under a superset EULA.

All I'm saying is that these brokers shouldn't deliberately hide what
authors have chosen to do with their creation as they distribute or
provide subscriptions. It's rather disingenuous otherwise.

 TypeKit embeds my fonts, as a service to others; they should embed the
 copyright string with the font, but it doesn't really matter, because
 I do not require attribution when someone embeds my fonts. Some _do_
 require attribution for embedding (Jos Buivenga, for one), but I'm not
 sure it's TypeKit who needs to do the attributing; rather the website
 using the font.

IMHO it's great that typekit provides a service to others allowing them
easier access to your work. (BTW the link to your personal website and
other creations you have published is 404 on your typekit profile).

But people going through catalogs of such brokers will want to know the
details of what they are allowed to do before using/subscribing to the
given font.

 Personally, I think requiring attribution for the use of a text font
 is somewhat like requiring a painter to follow the signature with a
 note about what brand of paint, brushes, palettes, and easles were
 used.

Requiring (or not) attribution in the resulting artwork or document
(such as in a small colophon) is orthogonal to requiring the copyright
and licensing notice not be hidden, removed and overriden by a global
license...

In many licenses the former is optional (usually appreciated) but the
latter is mandatory.

My feeling is that in the knowledge society/economy you could argue that
hiding or stripping away authorship information is one of the worst
crimes whereas a mention in a colophon somewhere (or more generally some
kind of linkback) is appreciated by most authors.

Cheers,


-- 
Nicolas Spalinger, NRSI volunteer
Debian/Ubuntu font teams / OpenFontLibrary
http://planet.open-fonts.org



Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Kernest’s Web Font Serving E ngine – Fontue – Now Open Source

2010-04-22 Thread Nicolas Spalinger
On 04/22/2010 02:19 AM, Barry Schwartz wrote:
 Oh, I forgot to say: An easy way to see what fonts are used at a site
 is the Font Finder extension for Firefox:
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4415

there's also Firefontfamily
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/111672

and TypeGauge:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/9972

Very handy when designing or to learn more about a particular font but
but at this stage they don't show origin and authorship metadata.


Cheers,


-- 
Nicolas Spalinger, NRSI volunteer
Debian/Ubuntu font teams / OpenFontLibrary
http://planet.open-fonts.org



[OpenFontLibrary] Meeting with Jon Phillips

2010-04-22 Thread Fontfreedom
I wanted the group to know that I had a very positive  meeting with Meeting 
with Jon Phillips yesterday in San Francisco.
 
We discussed openfontlibrary, my new open font website in development, and  
numerous websites
Jon and I are working on which have nothing to do with fonts. (web based  
vector design software, social networking, tech law, and more)
 
In person, Jon is MUCH more down to earth than I had expected.
 
We dined on canned peaches and a Charlston Chew.
 
 
Eric Way (FontFreedom)


Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Kernest’s Web Font Serving En gine – Fontue – Now Open Source

2010-04-22 Thread Jonadab the Unsightly One
Nicolas Spalinger nicolas_spalin...@sil.org writes:

 please consider saying Gratis when you don't make your subscribers
 directly pay for the given font and libre/open when you describe
 fonts released under community-approved licenses allowing
 distribution / modification / study / redistribution. 

Many people outside the open-source community don't know those words.
For discussions on a mailing list they're fine, but they don't really
communicate well when your audience is the general public.

Instead of Gratis I would suggest the phrase free of charge, which
I believe nearly everyone in the English-speaking world understands.

As for libre, it's better to name a specific license, or at least
the general category (permissive versus share-alike).  Not everyone
will understand, but people who *care* about the license will, so.

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