Re: [Openfontlibrary] Openfontlibrary Digest, Vol 34, Issue 13

2008-10-26 Thread Dave Crossland
2008/10/26 Brendan Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> After dong a little investigating, ccHost does allow you to see the
> contents of a zip file. I installed ccHost and then uploaded a zip
> file. The contents were there.
>
> Am I on the same page as you guys?

Yes; what it won't do is look inside .tar.gz or .tar.7z or .tar.bz2
archives - or plain .tar archives, even.

> I would not allow me to use all the other font files though

That's because its default settings are to only accept music files;
its meant to power the ccMixter site, you see. If you log into the
site as the admin user you can set the list of acceptable extensions
there.

> There
> should be an option to allow all files! Or perhaps exclude certain
> file types.

Well, AIUI, it has the feature to INclude certain file types, and it
excludes files with no extension.

> like PHP files or other files that could be excruciated on
> the server.

Yes, security is a problem :-(
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Re: [Openfontlibrary] Openfontlibrary Digest, Vol 34, Issue 13

2008-10-25 Thread Brendan Ferguson
After dong a little investigating, ccHost does allow you to see the  
contents of a zip file. I installed ccHost and then uploaded a zip  
file. The contents were there.

Am I on the same page as you guys?

I would not allow me to use all the other font files though. There  
should be an option to allow all files! Or perhaps exclude certain  
file types. like PHP files or other files that could be excruciated on  
the server.

Brendan



On Oct 25, 2008, at 12:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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>   2. Re: Font formats accepted by OFLB (Karl Berry)
>   3. Re: Font formats accepted by OFLB (Mark Leisher)
>   4. Re: Font formats accepted by OFLB (George Williams)
>   5. Re: Font formats accepted by OFLB (Christopher Fynn)
>   6. Re: Font formats accepted by OFLB (Ben Weiner)
>   7. Re: Font formats accepted by OFLB (Ben Laenen)
>   8. Re: Font formats accepted by OFLB (Ben Weiner)
>   9. Re: Font formats accepted by OFLB (Ben Weiner)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:48:38 -0400
> From: "Ed Trager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Openfontlibrary] Font formats accepted by OFLB
> To: "Ben Weiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Open Font Library list 
> Message-ID:
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>
> Hi, Ben,
>
> Don't forget .ttc true type collections.  These will become more
> popular in the future, I am sure.
>
> I second Mark Leisher's suggestion to accept pcf and bdf.
>
> Some people are going to provide one font in multiple font containers:
> i.e., maybe ttf and pcf, or ttf and Postscript.
>
> But I agree with you that the older Postscript containers are not
> needed since OTF can contain Postscript outlines, right?
>
> Ben Laenen's question is relevant.  Perhaps the right tack is for OFLB
> to simply "encourage" inclusion of "at least" a ttf container.
>
> Note however there are legitimate use cases where .bdf or .pcf might
> be the first choice container -- for example, a monospaced bitmap
> terminal font for Linux, especially for a non-Latin script where there
> might not be other choices available.  Such a bitmap-only font should
> also be packaged in a TTF container, but the main file that will
> actually get used by people interested in that font is the bdf or pcf
> file.
>
>
> Best - Ed
>
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Ben Weiner  
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> My proposal for OFLB font uploads in the next version of the site  
>> is to
>> accept
>>
>> .otf
>> .ttf
>>
>> which are far and away going to be the most widely appreciated, then
>>
>> .pfa
>> .pfm
>> .pfb
>> .afm
>> .bdf
>>
>> which are Adobe-ish formats that are all in the current site: are  
>> they
>> all needed?
>>
>> Then the X-Windows format, if it is still in use:
>> .pcf
>>
>> Then humna-readable source:
>> .sfd
>>
>> What else? Metafont files (?.mf)?
>>
>> A short list is better, I think. Suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ben
>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:43:06 -0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl Berry)
> Subject: Re: [Openfontlibrary] Font formats accepted by OFLB
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>But I agree with you that the older Postscript containers are not
>needed since OTF can contain Postscript outlines, right?
>
> Technically, sure, but pfb files are still very useful and widely used
> -- in the TeX world, at least.  Is anything substantial gained by
> disallowing them?  Actually, I don't see what's gained by disallowing
> anything.  And, as mentioned, people are really uploading zips anyway,
> right?
>
> Anyway, I haven't seen pfa files used in umpteen years, so if you'd  
> like
> to have a token format to drop, I suggest that one.
>
> karl
>
>
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>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:12:12 -0600
> From: Mark Leisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Openfontlibrary] Font formats accepted by OFLB
> To: Open Font Library list 
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/pl

Re: [Openfontlibrary] Openfontlibrary Digest, Vol 34, Issue 13

2008-10-25 Thread Brendan Ferguson
I am very sure PHP can zip read zipped files, tarball and read  
tarballs. It really should not be a big deal expanding ccHost to do  
this.

Brendan


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>   2. Re: Font formats accepted by OFLB (Karl Berry)
>   3. Re: Font formats accepted by OFLB (Mark Leisher)
>   4. Re: Font formats accepted by OFLB (George Williams)
>   5. Re: Font formats accepted by OFLB (Christopher Fynn)
>   6. Re: Font formats accepted by OFLB (Ben Weiner)
>   7. Re: Font formats accepted by OFLB (Ben Laenen)
>   8. Re: Font formats accepted by OFLB (Ben Weiner)
>   9. Re: Font formats accepted by OFLB (Ben Weiner)
>  10. Re: Font formats accepted by OFLB (Nicolas Mailhot)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:48:38 -0400
> From: "Ed Trager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Openfontlibrary] Font formats accepted by OFLB
> To: "Ben Weiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Open Font Library list 
> Message-ID:
>   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Hi, Ben,
>
> Don't forget .ttc true type collections.  These will become more
> popular in the future, I am sure.
>
> I second Mark Leisher's suggestion to accept pcf and bdf.
>
> Some people are going to provide one font in multiple font containers:
> i.e., maybe ttf and pcf, or ttf and Postscript.
>
> But I agree with you that the older Postscript containers are not
> needed since OTF can contain Postscript outlines, right?
>
> Ben Laenen's question is relevant.  Perhaps the right tack is for OFLB
> to simply "encourage" inclusion of "at least" a ttf container.
>
> Note however there are legitimate use cases where .bdf or .pcf might
> be the first choice container -- for example, a monospaced bitmap
> terminal font for Linux, especially for a non-Latin script where there
> might not be other choices available.  Such a bitmap-only font should
> also be packaged in a TTF container, but the main file that will
> actually get used by people interested in that font is the bdf or pcf
> file.
>
>
> Best - Ed
>
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Ben Weiner  
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> My proposal for OFLB font uploads in the next version of the site  
>> is to
>> accept
>>
>> .otf
>> .ttf
>>
>> which are far and away going to be the most widely appreciated, then
>>
>> .pfa
>> .pfm
>> .pfb
>> .afm
>> .bdf
>>
>> which are Adobe-ish formats that are all in the current site: are  
>> they
>> all needed?
>>
>> Then the X-Windows format, if it is still in use:
>> .pcf
>>
>> Then humna-readable source:
>> .sfd
>>
>> What else? Metafont files (?.mf)?
>>
>> A short list is better, I think. Suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ben
>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:43:06 -0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl Berry)
> Subject: Re: [Openfontlibrary] Font formats accepted by OFLB
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>But I agree with you that the older Postscript containers are not
>needed since OTF can contain Postscript outlines, right?
>
> Technically, sure, but pfb files are still very useful and widely used
> -- in the TeX world, at least.  Is anything substantial gained by
> disallowing them?  Actually, I don't see what's gained by disallowing
> anything.  And, as mentioned, people are really uploading zips anyway,
> right?
>
> Anyway, I haven't seen pfa files used in umpteen years, so if you'd  
> like
> to have a token format to drop, I suggest that one.
>
> karl
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:12:12 -0600
> From: Mark Leisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Openfontlibrary] Font formats accepted by OFLB
> To: Open Font Library list 
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Ed Trager wrote:
>> Note however there are legitimate use cases where .bdf or .pcf might
>> be the first choice container -- for example, a monospaced bitmap
>> terminal font for Linux, especially for a non-Latin script where  
>> there
>> might n