Re: [Openfontlibrary] StixFonts license update
STIX made this change after some communication with me, because the previous version was clearly nonfree and Barbara Beeton(*) persevered in getting them to review it. We urged them to use the OFL (or any existing free license, for that matter), but they chose not to. I don't know why not. Well, it seems like they listened to recommendations from you and Barbara (and probably other reviewers and beta testers in the community): http://www.stixfonts.org/user_license.html http://www.stixfonts.org/STIXfaq.html The announcement dates back a few months now but IMHO it's great news for this rich set of scientific and mathematical Unicode fonts to be planned for release under the OFL :-) Best, Karl (*) For those who don't know her: Barbara is a very long-time member of the TeX and typographic communities, and one of the hardest workers on the STIX project. -- Nicolas Spalinger http://scripts.sil.org http://pkg-fonts.alioth.debian.org/ https://launchpad.net/people/fonts signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary
Re: [Openfontlibrary] StixFonts license update
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:41 PM, Nicolas Spalinger wrote: Well, it seems like they listened to recommendations from you and Barbara (and probably other reviewers and beta testers in the community): http://www.stixfonts.org/user_license.html http://www.stixfonts.org/STIXfaq.html That still doesn't make the fonts available :) Alexandre ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary
Re: [Openfontlibrary] StixFonts license update
El Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:52:41 +0400 Alexandre Prokoudine [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:41 PM, Nicolas Spalinger wrote: Well, it seems like they listened to recommendations from you and Barbara (and probably other reviewers and beta testers in the community): http://www.stixfonts.org/user_license.html http://www.stixfonts.org/STIXfaq.html That still doesn't make the fonts available :) here: http://olegueret.googlepages.com/stixfonts-ttf Alexandre ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary
Re: [Openfontlibrary] StixFonts license update
That still doesn't make the fonts available :) Yep, but looks like it's coming. Given the size of the project, I think the delay is still fairly reasonable. In the meantime, if you haven't seen it, there was a nice presentation of the Stix project at TUG 2007: http://www.river-valley.tv/conferences/tug2007/media/Barbara_Beeton/ (Along with a bunch of other brilliants presentations, thanks for all the TUG work, Karl et al!) here: http://olegueret.googlepages.com/stixfonts-ttf This is the 0.9 beta version. And it's promising. AFAICT they're taking into account the feedback for the planned final version. There's also work going on with making these fonts useful in TeX environments (pre-XeTeX/PdfTeX I assume). -- Nicolas Spalinger http://scripts.sil.org http://pkg-fonts.alioth.debian.org/ https://launchpad.net/people/fonts signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary
Re: [Openfontlibrary] StixFonts license update
you ask Barbara, why not? Barbara doesn't know either. I asked the STIX folks too. If I ever hear anything useful, I'll post ... karl ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary
Re: [Openfontlibrary] StixFonts license update
What are your thoughts on this? Are you hopeful to interface these with OFLB, or you have other thoughts? I'm not sure on relicensing these fonts under OFL license...I don't see a clause on this in the contract... The fonts certainly cannot be relicensed. However, in my view the new version is a free license (though not compatible with anything else). STIX made this change after some communication with me, because the previous version was clearly nonfree and Barbara Beeton(*) persevered in getting them to review it. We urged them to use the OFL (or any existing free license, for that matter), but they chose not to. I don't know why not. Best, Karl (*) For those who don't know her: Barbara is a very long-time member of the TeX and typographic communities, and one of the hardest workers on the STIX project. ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary
Re: [Openfontlibrary] StixFonts license update
On Mon, 2007-10-08 at 16:13 -0500, Karl Berry wrote: What are your thoughts on this? Are you hopeful to interface these with OFLB, or you have other thoughts? I'm not sure on relicensing these fonts under OFL license...I don't see a clause on this in the contract... The fonts certainly cannot be relicensed. However, in my view the new version is a free license (though not compatible with anything else). STIX made this change after some communication with me, because the previous version was clearly nonfree and Barbara Beeton(*) persevered in getting them to review it. We urged them to use the OFL (or any existing free license, for that matter), but they chose not to. I don't know why not. Best, Karl (*) For those who don't know her: Barbara is a very long-time member of the TeX and typographic communities, and one of the hardest workers on the STIX project. That's what I thought...total bummer on them not using OFL license...can you ask Barbara, why not? License proliferation is hell. Jon __ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary -- Jon Phillips San Francisco, CA USA PH 510.499.0894 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rejon.org MSN, AIM, Yahoo Chat: kidproto Jabber Chat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IRC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note: the contents of this email are not intended to be legal advice nor should they be relied upon as or represented to be legal advice. Jon Phillips does not represent any organization through this email address. ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary
Re: [Openfontlibrary] StixFonts license update
What are your thoughts on this? Are you hopeful to interface these with OFLB, or you have other thoughts? I'm not sure on relicensing these fonts under OFL license...I don't see a clause on this in the contract... Jon On Mon, 2007-10-08 at 18:15 +0100, Simos Xenitellis wrote: Hi All, StixFonts have just updated their user license, to the following http://www.stixfonts.org/user_license.html The following basic changes took place. From: 4. You may also (a) add glyphs or characters to the Fonts, so long as the base set of glyphs is not modified or removed and (b) delete glyphs or characters from the Fonts, provided that the resulting font set is distributed with the following disclaimer: This [name] font does not include all the Unicode points covered in the STIX Fonts™ set but may include others.� In each case, the name used to denote the resulting font set shall not include the term STIX or any similar term, and any distribution of the resulting font set must be free of charge. To: 4. You may also (a) add glyphs or characters to the Fonts, or modify the shape of existing glyphs, so long as the base set of glyphs is not removed and (b) delete glyphs or characters from the Fonts, provided that the resulting font set is distributed with the following disclaimer: This [name] font does not include all the Unicode points covered in the STIX Fonts™ set but may include others. In each case, the name used to denote the resulting font set shall not include the term STIX or any similar term. Another change was the introduction paragraph of the final license; now there is a reference to the OFL (L=license). Simos ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary -- Jon Phillips San Francisco, CA USA PH 510.499.0894 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rejon.org MSN, AIM, Yahoo Chat: kidproto Jabber Chat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IRC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note: the contents of this email are not intended to be legal advice nor should they be relied upon as or represented to be legal advice. Jon Phillips does not represent any organization through this email address. ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary
