[openib-general] RE: User Level Events - request for support

2005-05-18 Thread Eitan Zahavi
Title: RE: User Level Events - request for support





To isolate the implementation of OpenSM from the specific access layer implementation the thread etc would be in the vendor layer. The code in OpenSM core will use a simpler API: provide a callback and context.

Eitan Zahavi
Design Technology Director
Mellanox Technologies LTD
Tel:+972-4-9097208
Fax:+972-4-9593245
P.O. Box 586 Yokneam 20692 ISRAEL



 -Original Message-
 From: Michael S. Tsirkin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 1:39 AM
 To: Eitan Zahavi
 Cc: 'Hal Rosenstock'; Liran Sorani; Yael Kalka; openib-general@openib.org
 Subject: Re: User Level Events - request for support
 
 Quoting r. Eitan Zahavi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Subject: RE: User Level Events - request for support
 
   Hal Wrote:
   The OpenSM vendor layer should be enhanced with an additional API for a
   local port state changed event (and take a flag for port down and port
   up).
  
   OpenSM could then take this event and handle it generically. This could
   be implemented for gen2 (OpenIB) and gen1 if the events can be generated
   from VAPI or whatever.
  
 
  Yes. I agree. We should have osm_vendor_api.h define some callback registration
  function for the local port up/down event. I will implement the OpenSM code for
  firing a sweep one the port is up.
 
  EZ
 
  Eitan Zahavi
  Design Technology Director
  Mellanox Technologies LTD
  Tel:+972-4-9097208
  Fax:+972-4-9593245
  P.O. Box 586 Yokneam 20692 ISRAEL
 
 IMHO a function that blocks till there's an event would be a saner API
 since it matches what kernel can provide.
 opensm can always create a thread if it wants to get a callback
 asynchronously.
 
 --
 MST - Michael S. Tsirkin



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[openib-general] Re: User Level Events - request for support

2005-05-17 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
Quoting r. Eitan Zahavi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Subject: RE: User Level Events - request for support
 
  Hal Wrote:
  The OpenSM vendor layer should be enhanced with an additional API for a
  local port state changed event (and take a flag for port down and port
  up).
 
  OpenSM could then take this event and handle it generically. This could
  be implemented for gen2 (OpenIB) and gen1 if the events can be generated
  from VAPI or whatever.
 
 
 Yes. I agree. We should have osm_vendor_api.h define some callback 
 registration
 function for the local port up/down event. I will implement the OpenSM code 
 for
 firing a sweep one the port is up.
 
 EZ
 
 Eitan Zahavi
 Design Technology Director
 Mellanox Technologies LTD
 Tel:+972-4-9097208
 Fax:+972-4-9593245
 P.O. Box 586 Yokneam 20692 ISRAEL

IMHO a function that blocks till there's an event would be a saner API
since it matches what kernel can provide.
opensm can always create a thread if it wants to get a callback
asynchronously.

-- 
MST - Michael S. Tsirkin
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[openib-general] Re: User Level Events - request for support

2005-03-17 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin

Quoting r. Eitan Zahavi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Subject: User Level Events - request for support
 
 I would like to propose for gen2 stack to have a user level API supporting
 registration for notifications on unaffiliated asynchronous events.
 
 As an example in cases when the local IB port link goes down an SM that runs 
 on
 top of this port needs to be notified and start a sweep when the port is back
 up. Missing such event, in user land, prevents the SM from knowing about the
 change.
 
 Currently gen1 and gen2 OpenSM is not registered to get these events. The SM
 will then fail to reconfigure the subnet in cases like:
 
 1.  The SM cable connects to a switch and the user changes the switch port
 the SM is connected to. In this case the SM might be in the middle of a sweep
 and do not even notice (due to the short time the change takes) that there was
 a change. Traps coming from the switch are forwarded to the old port the SM 
 was
 connected to and are dropped (as the port is down). As OpenSM does not know
 there was any change in the subnet topology, it will not perform a heavy 
 sweep.
 
 2.  The switch connected to the SM is rebooted. If the reboot happens so
 fast that it falls between two light sweeps, OpenSM will not be able to know
 the switch was reset (as all SMPs are DR).
 
 Although one can write special case code to handle these cases, due to the
 asynchronous nature of things there are many races that can not be resolved
 without a simple port up/down event that the SM should register to.
 
 Hope this provides enough reason behind my request for a user-level event
 notification mechanism.
 
 Eitan
 

uverbs already have this capability, of course.

However I think I agree it might make sence to add this capability
to umad. Since sm is already blocking on read from umad, it might
be simplest to make read return with an error code. Does this make
sence?

Alternatively, we could try using kobject_uevent.

-- 
MST - Michael S. Tsirkin
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Re: [openib-general] Re: User Level Events - request for support

2005-03-17 Thread Hal Rosenstock
On Thu, 2005-03-17 at 05:03, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
 However I think I agree it might make sence to add this capability
 to umad. Since sm is already blocking on read from umad, it might
 be simplest to make read return with an error code. Does this make
 sence?
 
 Alternatively, we could try using kobject_uevent.

This has been on the OpenSM todo list
(https://openib.org/svn/gen2/trunk/src/userspace/management/osm/doc/todo). This 
functionality in umad at the initial port to OpenIB and I believe is on the 
todo list.

-- Hal

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