Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] about devlopment tools

2010-12-02 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On Thursday, 2 December, 2010 19:31, "Sriram Narayanan"  
said:

> Both gcc-3.3 as well as gcc-4.x are available. I use these on OI
> (actually illumos) for the working on the next Belenix releases. Apart
> from a specific linking problem for one of the shared libraries, GCC
> works fine on OI.

Good to know.  I haven't had a chance to try gcc on OI beyond the "hello, 
world" phase -- I've been mostly concentrating on exploring SunStudio.

Cheers,

kjw



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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] about devlopment tools

2010-12-02 Thread Sriram Narayanan
Both gcc-3.3 as well as gcc-4.x are available. I use these on OI
(actually illumos) for the working on the next Belenix releases. Apart
from a specific linking problem for one of the shared libraries, GCC
works fine on OI.

-- Ram

On 12/3/10, k...@javabunny.net  wrote:
> The ss-dev package is the preferred package of development tools.  A gcc-dev
> package also exists, but uses an older version of gcc, if I remember
> correctly.
>
> Cheers,
>
> kjw
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Harry Putnam 
> Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2010 21:02:07
> To: 
> Reply-To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana
> 
> Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] about devlopment tools
>
> I remember from opensolaris when I wanted to compile a few minor
> things not available in the repos that I needed to install a specific
> pkg that contained many of the needed tools.
>
> I wonder if anyone can guess what that might have been.
>
> These are small non complicated sources like xbindkeys.
>
> Another is rsnapshot which I think is really more a perl script but I
> think still needs to be compilred.
>
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] No timeslider... what gives

2010-12-02 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On Thursday, 2 December, 2010 19:20, "Harry Putnam"  said:

> On a new install of b147 when the gui is up I attempt to access the
> timeslider tool from the System menu.
> 
> I'm asked for root passwd
> 
> Ok done.
> 
> Then the watch shows as if something is taking time start.
> That disappears and nothing every appears on the desktop.
> 
> This should just work straight off... right?

Have you considered checking the bug tracker?

https://www.illumos.org/issues/220

The link to the bug tracker (as well as much other important information) can 
be found on the wiki:

http://wiki.openindiana.org/

Cheers,

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] No timeslider... what gives

2010-12-02 Thread Sriram Narayanan
Harry:

You seem to be facing many problems with your current OI install,
which no one else has faced so far.

Is a reinstall an option for you?

Alternatively, one of the Belenix team members has written a Network
Installer for OI which you may want to try. This is described at
moinakg.wordpress.com

-- Sriram

On 12/3/10, Harry Putnam  wrote:
> On a new install of b147 when the gui is up I attempt to access the
> timeslider tool from the System menu.
>
> I'm asked for root passwd
>
> Ok done.
>
> Then the watch shows as if something is taking time start.
> That disappears and nothing every appears on the desktop.
>
> This should just work straight off... right?
>
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[OpenIndiana-discuss] No timeslider... what gives

2010-12-02 Thread Harry Putnam
On a new install of b147 when the gui is up I attempt to access the
timeslider tool from the System menu.

I'm asked for root passwd

Ok done.

Then the watch shows as if something is taking time start.
That disappears and nothing every appears on the desktop.

This should just work straight off... right?


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Why is user logged into `/'

2010-12-02 Thread kjw
Not at all common in my experience (half a dozen OI installs, a few dozen OSol 
installs, haven't had that issue).

Cheers,

kjw

-Original Message-
From: Harry Putnam 
Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2010 20:51:39 
To: 
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Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Why is user logged into `/'

Calum Mackay  writes:

> On 03/12/2010 01:25, Harry Putnam wrote:
>> /etc/passwd clearly shows user at /home/reader
>
> What do you have for:
>
>   grep ^automount /etc/nsswitch.conf
>
> and assuming it's "files", what do you have in /etc/auto_home ?

Yeah.. files

>
> Should be something like:
>
>   user   localhost:/export/home/&

I have one more line than that:
  reader   localhost:/export/home/&
  +auto_home

> If you're using a networked backend for automount, then wherever the
> equivalent automounter home info is...

no

> Also, check "svcs -p autofs"

STATE  STIMEFMRI
online 19:06:26 svc:/system/filesystem/autofs:default
   19:06:26  879 automountd
   19:06:26  880 automountd


Those things above are in complete default state just as installed.

Is it common for this to happen on a fresh install?


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] about devlopment tools

2010-12-02 Thread kjw
The ss-dev package is the preferred package of development tools.  A gcc-dev 
package also exists, but uses an older version of gcc, if I remember correctly.

Cheers,

kjw

-Original Message-
From: Harry Putnam 
Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2010 21:02:07 
To: 
Reply-To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana 
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] about devlopment tools

I remember from opensolaris when I wanted to compile a few minor
things not available in the repos that I needed to install a specific
pkg that contained many of the needed tools.

I wonder if anyone can guess what that might have been.

These are small non complicated sources like xbindkeys.

Another is rsnapshot which I think is really more a perl script but I
think still needs to be compilred.


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[OpenIndiana-discuss] about devlopment tools

2010-12-02 Thread Harry Putnam
I remember from opensolaris when I wanted to compile a few minor
things not available in the repos that I needed to install a specific
pkg that contained many of the needed tools.

I wonder if anyone can guess what that might have been.

These are small non complicated sources like xbindkeys.

Another is rsnapshot which I think is really more a perl script but I
think still needs to be compilred.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Why is user logged into `/'

2010-12-02 Thread Harry Putnam
Calum Mackay  writes:

> On 03/12/2010 01:25, Harry Putnam wrote:
>> /etc/passwd clearly shows user at /home/reader
>
> What do you have for:
>
>   grep ^automount /etc/nsswitch.conf
>
> and assuming it's "files", what do you have in /etc/auto_home ?

Yeah.. files

>
> Should be something like:
>
>   user   localhost:/export/home/&

I have one more line than that:
  reader   localhost:/export/home/&
  +auto_home

> If you're using a networked backend for automount, then wherever the
> equivalent automounter home info is...

no

> Also, check "svcs -p autofs"

STATE  STIMEFMRI
online 19:06:26 svc:/system/filesystem/autofs:default
   19:06:26  879 automountd
   19:06:26  880 automountd


Those things above are in complete default state just as installed.

Is it common for this to happen on a fresh install?


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Why is user logged into `/'

2010-12-02 Thread Calum Mackay

On 03/12/2010 01:25, Harry Putnam wrote:

/etc/passwd clearly shows user at /home/reader


What do you have for:

grep ^automount /etc/nsswitch.conf

and assuming it's "files", what do you have in /etc/auto_home ?

Should be something like:

user   localhost:/export/home/&

If you're using a networked backend for automount, then wherever the 
equivalent automounter home info is...



Also, check "svcs -p autofs"


cheers,
calum.

(Oracle)


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[OpenIndiana-discuss] Why is user logged into `/'

2010-12-02 Thread Harry Putnam
In two separate installs of b 147.. I find that my user gets logged
into `/' on login.

home is mounted normally:

mount |grep home

  /export/home on rpool/export/home
  read/write/setuid/devices/nonbmand/exec/xattr/atime/dev=950008 on Thu
  Dec 2 19:06:19 2010
  
  /export/home/reader on rpool/export/home/reader
  read/write/setuid/devices/nonbmand/exec/xattr/atime/dev=950009 on Thu
  Dec 2 19:06:19 2010
  
  /home/reader on /export/home/reader
  read/write/setuid/devices/dev=950009 on Thu Dec 2 19:06:37 2010

And its obvious from the values of PS1 and PS4 that the ~/.bashrc has
been read but the shell opens at `/'.

/etc/passwd clearly shows user at /home/reader

On login user knows the value of $HOME... an echo shows:
/home/reader

If I `su -'   to root, root is also logged in to `/'.. an echo from
roots' shell of $HOME shows /root, /etc/passwd shows /root

Since root is part of `/' there is no question of its being mounted.

So what is the likely cause?  Or how can I debug it.  The usual things
like /etc/passwd that dictate such things seem to point to the normal
places yet logging in does not seem to pay any attention to that.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] livecd zpool import -fR /a xpool but no files

2010-12-02 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam  writes:

> # [HP 12/02/10_18:39:32 
>   Some discussion of how to use livecd as rescue disk
> # ] 

Sorry .. please disregard...


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[OpenIndiana-discuss] livecd zpool import -fR /a xpool but no files

2010-12-02 Thread Harry Putnam
# [HP 12/02/10_18:39:32 
  Some discussion of how to use livecd as rescue disk
# ] 
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] does this make any sense?

2010-12-02 Thread Allan E. Registos
No we are not wrong. The wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD_FAQ is
crystal clear. I know there are some folks who did a native Linux kernel
version.
( 
http://www.osnews.com/story/24057/Running_the_Native_ZFS_Linux_Kernel_Module_Plus_Benchmarks
 )

kFreeBSD stands for "kernel of FreeBSD", both FreeBSD kernel and the
Linux kernel will now be supported in Debian.

On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 11:45 +, Marco Fiscato wrote:
> I think you guys are wrong, it uses real Linux kernel.
> 
> http://zfsonlinux.org/
> 
> Cheers,
>   Marco
> 
> 2010/12/2 Allan E. Registos :
> > On Wed, 2010-12-01 at 16:00 -0800, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
> >> Allan E. Registos wrote:
> >> > I received the news yesterday and thinking playing with it until OI is 
> >> > stable. I am confuse of what kernel it uses? BSD kernel?
> >>
> >> It's the Debian GNU/kFreeBSD variant, so Debian userland with
> >> FreeBSD kernel:
> >>
> >>   http://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD_FAQ
> >>
> >
> > Thanks, last time I heard, the FreeBSD kernel is experimentally included
> > in Debian.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Allan E. Registos
> >
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] cifs under oi

2010-12-02 Thread Gordon Ross
Even in a "domain mode" setup, if you use any local accounts,
you'll need the pam.conf change so that /var/smb/smbpasswd
will contain NT password hashes for the local accounts.

On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 8:03 AM, Harry Putnam  wrote:
> awatkins1...@gmail.com writes:
>
>> This is only required when dealing with Workgroups. It is not
>> required for Domain setup.
>>
>
> Good information there thanks.  As it happens this is a workgroup
> setup so I'll need to do it.
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] does this make any sense?

2010-12-02 Thread Russ Price

On 12/02/2010 07:09 AM, Guido Berhoerster wrote:

No it doesn't. Debian installer support for ZFS is only provided
for the kFreeBSD variant. Linux variants of Debian provide
ZFS-FUSE packages. The "ZFS on Linux" project cited above provides
native ZFS support in Linux via kernel module, however due to
licensing incompatibilities binary packages of that module cannot
be legally redistributed. It is thus legally impossible for
Linux distributions to include "ZFS on Linux" packages.



One possible workaround would be to use DKMS to compile the module from source 
on-the-fly. The only problem with that is that it would still be necessary to 
use a baked-into-the-kernel filesystem for booting.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The static network that never works

2010-12-02 Thread Oscar del Rio

On 12/1/2010 6:39 PM, Harry Putnam wrote:

Oscar del Rio  writes:


Installing from oi-b147... once installed the icon on right upper of
gnome window display has dialog for setting up a static network... but
when I follow it, I get a network that even says its connected... but
it goes no where... can't ping anything even on home lan.

System - Administration - Network... type root password...

Show: Wired (bge0)
IPv4 IP: Manually assigned.
Default route: (gateway IP address)
Add: (IP address + subnet)

Show: Connection Status
Locations... Automatic - Edit
DNS: Manual domain: yourdomainname.com
Servers: 1.2.3.4, 1.2.3.5 (DNS servers)
Custom nsswitch file: none, Use Default (/etc/nsswitch.dns)
OK - OK - OK

Network works fine.

Good to know it can work...

Walking thru it again I see I've forgotten about /etc/resolv.conf

I guess I thougt the gui was taking care of it.


The GUI took care of it in my case.  I didn't have to edit any files.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] does this make any sense?

2010-12-02 Thread Marco Fiscato
Who cares about distributions, if I can install it anyway?
As if nobody is using flash on Linux.

Marco

2010/12/2 Guido Berhoerster :
> * Marco Fiscato  [2010-12-02 12:45]:
>> I think you guys are wrong, it uses real Linux kernel.
>>
>> http://zfsonlinux.org/
>
> No it doesn't. Debian installer support for ZFS is only provided
> for the kFreeBSD variant. Linux variants of Debian provide
> ZFS-FUSE packages. The "ZFS on Linux" project cited above provides
> native ZFS support in Linux via kernel module, however due to
> licensing incompatibilities binary packages of that module cannot
> be legally redistributed. It is thus legally impossible for
> Linux distributions to include "ZFS on Linux" packages.
>
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] does this make any sense?

2010-12-02 Thread Guido Berhoerster
* Marco Fiscato  [2010-12-02 12:45]:
> I think you guys are wrong, it uses real Linux kernel.
> 
> http://zfsonlinux.org/

No it doesn't. Debian installer support for ZFS is only provided
for the kFreeBSD variant. Linux variants of Debian provide
ZFS-FUSE packages. The "ZFS on Linux" project cited above provides
native ZFS support in Linux via kernel module, however due to
licensing incompatibilities binary packages of that module cannot
be legally redistributed. It is thus legally impossible for
Linux distributions to include "ZFS on Linux" packages.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] cifs under oi

2010-12-02 Thread Harry Putnam
awatkins1...@gmail.com writes:

> This is only required when dealing with Workgroups. It is not
> required for Domain setup.
>

Good information there thanks.  As it happens this is a workgroup
setup so I'll need to do it.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] does this make any sense?

2010-12-02 Thread Marco Fiscato
I think you guys are wrong, it uses real Linux kernel.

http://zfsonlinux.org/

Cheers,
  Marco

2010/12/2 Allan E. Registos :
> On Wed, 2010-12-01 at 16:00 -0800, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
>> Allan E. Registos wrote:
>> > I received the news yesterday and thinking playing with it until OI is 
>> > stable. I am confuse of what kernel it uses? BSD kernel?
>>
>> It's the Debian GNU/kFreeBSD variant, so Debian userland with
>> FreeBSD kernel:
>>
>>       http://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD_FAQ
>>
>
> Thanks, last time I heard, the FreeBSD kernel is experimentally included
> in Debian.
>
> Cheers,
> Allan E. Registos
>
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] cifs under oi

2010-12-02 Thread awatkins1966

This is only required when dealing with Workgroups. It is not required for 
Domain setup.

Andrew 

Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

-Original Message-
From: Lou Picciano 
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 03:51:59 
To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Reply-To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana 
Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] cifs under oi

Yes, having just worked through this, we did edit the pam.conf file to make use 
of 'local' authentication. 


We are having some other issues - hey, it's a learning process - but the 
authentication via PAM works great now. 


Lou Picciano 

- Original Message - 
From: "Harry Putnam"  
To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org 
Sent: Wednesday, December 1, 2010 8:49:05 PM 
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] cifs under oi 

When setting up the cifs server under oi (b147) is it still necessary 
to edit /etc/pam.conf when expecting to share files with windows OS. 

Adding a line like: 

other password required pam_smb_passwd.so.1 nowarn 

At the end? 


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