Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Package buildsystem
2010/12/8 Dustin Marquess > While personally all of my OpenIndianan/Solaris servers use pkgsrc (it > rocks!), I personally think effort would be best spent fixing the existing > packages in pkgsrc upstream. I know the DragonflyBSD devs do this, that > way > they automatically benefit from changes upstream. > > -Dustin > > On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Mads Worsøe Duun wrote: > > > In the wiki section > > > > > http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/OpenIndiana+Addon+Consolidations?focusedCommentId=4883385#comment-4883385it > > says a BSD-ports buildsystem will be added later to Openindiana. I > > very > > much like this idea, but has anyone thought about witch system to use? > Will > > it be a system designed from scratch, or will an already existing system > be > > ported? > > > > Personally I vote for NetBSD's pkgsrc. It already bootstraps and > partially > > works on Openindiana. Partially because a lot of packages will not build, > > because of missing Solaris patches. In the future, a tool that convert > > packages from pkgsrc to IPS could be developed. > > > > Cheers > > Mads Worsøe Duun > > ___ > > OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list > > OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org > > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > > > ___ > OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list > OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > I know DragonFlyBSD do that, but thats because it's not always so easy to commit patches to pkgsrc. But your right, patches should be commited upstream. But back to the subject, would you prefer a package buildsystem from scratch, or reuse something like pkgsrc? I just thing it would be waste of time to create something from scratch, when we got eg. pkgsrc or portage for that sake. BTW I love playing with DragonFlyBSD. Mads ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Root role and root user
I really don't like the idea of running as root if I don't need it, not even on my home setup. I really don't see the problem in ssh into my regular user, and from there su into root. Running root as user is dirty, and for lazy persons. Cheers, Mads Worsøe Duun ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Package buildsystem
While personally all of my OpenIndianan/Solaris servers use pkgsrc (it rocks!), I personally think effort would be best spent fixing the existing packages in pkgsrc upstream. I know the DragonflyBSD devs do this, that way they automatically benefit from changes upstream. -Dustin On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Mads Worsøe Duun wrote: > In the wiki section > > http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/OpenIndiana+Addon+Consolidations?focusedCommentId=4883385#comment-4883385it > says a BSD-ports buildsystem will be added later to Openindiana. I > very > much like this idea, but has anyone thought about witch system to use? Will > it be a system designed from scratch, or will an already existing system be > ported? > > Personally I vote for NetBSD's pkgsrc. It already bootstraps and partially > works on Openindiana. Partially because a lot of packages will not build, > because of missing Solaris patches. In the future, a tool that convert > packages from pkgsrc to IPS could be developed. > > Cheers > Mads Worsøe Duun > ___ > OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list > OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Package buildsystem
In the wiki section http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/OpenIndiana+Addon+Consolidations?focusedCommentId=4883385#comment-4883385it says a BSD-ports buildsystem will be added later to Openindiana. I very much like this idea, but has anyone thought about witch system to use? Will it be a system designed from scratch, or will an already existing system be ported? Personally I vote for NetBSD's pkgsrc. It already bootstraps and partially works on Openindiana. Partially because a lot of packages will not build, because of missing Solaris patches. In the future, a tool that convert packages from pkgsrc to IPS could be developed. Cheers Mads Worsøe Duun ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Grub 0.97 Code
hmm there is a simple problem with wget wget -r http://src.illumos.org/source/xref/illumos-opengrok/usr/src/grub I get only the index.html :/ Any ideas? best regards Darko Hojnik Am 08.12.2010, 06:06 Uhr, schrieb Albert Lee : On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Darko Hojnik wrote: Hi I am searching the code for Grub 0.97 with support for GPT and ZFS. Where I could get the code or patches? This is part of the onnv or illumos gate in usr/src/grub. There is no GPT support in this version, but Solaris disklabel and ZFS. For example, http://src.illumos.org/source/xref/illumos-opengrok/usr/src/grub (I tested a GPT support patch once but was unable to boot the OS). -Albert ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Root role and root user
# usermod -K type=normal root - Original Message - > I'm sure to get scolded for running as root quite often but it is my > preferred method quite often. It's no doubt not a good idea but I > still bull headedly, prefer it quite often. > > I like to be able to ssh to root whenever I please. It makes lots of > things easier... and since this is a home setup and I am not > responsible for anyone elses data... Nor am I boning up to become a > system administrator (other than my home lan).. It should be up to me. > Not something enforced by my OS. > > It probably makes sense to restrict root like that generally since the > OS does go into production uses. > > But is there not a way to make root a user rather than a role if I > really want to do that? > > On opensolaris one could just edit /etc/user_attr and remove the bit > about root being a role. I don't have access to the file anymore so > can't recall the exact wording but it is different under oi. Even > then I still tried a similar edit: > > Bits from /etc/user_atter as installed (wrapped for mail): > > rootmin_label=admin_low;lock_after_retries=no; > auths=solaris.*,solaris.grant;audit_flags=lo\:no;profiles=All; > clearance=admin_high;type=role > > I removed the last bit `;type=role' > > My user's line in /etc/user_attr: > readerroles=root > > I removed the root role and replaced it with > readerroles=zfssnap > --- - ---=--- - > > That edit appeared to make the OS non-bootable (running in a vbox as > guest on windows XP). Or maybe it was some other bumbling of mine > that caused it... but at any rate it made me chicken to mess with the > file. > > I used the livecd to put the file back to it original condition and > things started working again. > > It was a bit of work to do that and I'd rather not bumble into it > again. > > Can anyone tell me how to change the setup so that root is not just a > role but a real user? > > Or some other way, if there is one, so that I can ssh to root readily, > > > ___ > OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list > OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss -- Vennlige hilsener / Best regards roy -- Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk (+47) 97542685 r...@karlsbakk.net http://blogg.karlsbakk.net/ -- I all pedagogikk er det essensielt at pensum presenteres intelligibelt. Det er et elementært imperativ for alle pedagoger å unngå eksessiv anvendelse av idiomer med fremmed opprinnelse. I de fleste tilfeller eksisterer adekvate og relevante synonymer på norsk. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] libfmevent problem with installing oi_147
Hi, I'm trying to install the live CD on a Dell 6510 laptop. The installation fails fairly early on, with a message to the effect that libfmevent.so cannot be found: ld.so.1: svc.startd: fatal: libfmevent.so.1: open failed: No such file or directory Has anyone else seen this, and is there anything to be done? Kostas ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Root role and root user
I'm sure to get scolded for running as root quite often but it is my preferred method quite often. It's no doubt not a good idea but I still bull headedly, prefer it quite often. I like to be able to ssh to root whenever I please. It makes lots of things easier... and since this is a home setup and I am not responsible for anyone elses data... Nor am I boning up to become a system administrator (other than my home lan).. It should be up to me. Not something enforced by my OS. It probably makes sense to restrict root like that generally since the OS does go into production uses. But is there not a way to make root a user rather than a role if I really want to do that? On opensolaris one could just edit /etc/user_attr and remove the bit about root being a role. I don't have access to the file anymore so can't recall the exact wording but it is different under oi. Even then I still tried a similar edit: Bits from /etc/user_atter as installed (wrapped for mail): rootmin_label=admin_low;lock_after_retries=no; auths=solaris.*,solaris.grant;audit_flags=lo\:no;profiles=All; clearance=admin_high;type=role I removed the last bit `;type=role' My user's line in /etc/user_attr: readerroles=root I removed the root role and replaced it with readerroles=zfssnap ---- ---=--- - That edit appeared to make the OS non-bootable (running in a vbox as guest on windows XP). Or maybe it was some other bumbling of mine that caused it... but at any rate it made me chicken to mess with the file. I used the livecd to put the file back to it original condition and things started working again. It was a bit of work to do that and I'd rather not bumble into it again. Can anyone tell me how to change the setup so that root is not just a role but a real user? Or some other way, if there is one, so that I can ssh to root readily, ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [zfs-discuss] iops...
> > I am totally aware of these differences, but it seems some people > > think RAIDz is nonsense unless you don't need speed at all. My > > testing shows (so far) that the speed is quite good, far better than > > single drives. Also, as Eric said, those speeds are for random i/o. > > I doubt there is very much out there that is truely random i/o > > except perhaps databases, but then, I would never use raid5/raidz > > for a DB unless at gunpoint. > > Well besides databases there are VM datastores, busy email servers, > busy ldap servers, busy web servers, and I'm sure the list goes on and > on. > > I'm sure it is much harder to list servers that are truly sequential > in IO then random. This is especially true when you have thousands of > users hitting it. For busy web servers, I would guess most of the data can be cached, at least over time, and with good amounts of arc/l2arc, this should remove most of that penalty. A spooling server is another thing, for which I don't think raidz would be suitable, although with async i/o will streamline at least some of it. For VM datastores, I totally agree. Vennlige hilsener / Best regards roy -- Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk (+47) 97542685 r...@karlsbakk.net http://blogg.karlsbakk.net/ -- I all pedagogikk er det essensielt at pensum presenteres intelligibelt. Det er et elementært imperativ for alle pedagoger å unngå eksessiv anvendelse av idiomer med fremmed opprinnelse. I de fleste tilfeller eksisterer adekvate og relevante synonymer på norsk. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
