Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] info about Solaris and the new 4K-Sector-Disks (e.g. WDxxEARS)

2011-02-10 Thread Piotr Jasiukajtis
That PSARC is already included into OpenIndiana:
changeset:   9889:68d0fe4c716e
user:yu, larry liu - Sun Microsystems - Beijing China 
larry@sun.com
date:Wed Jun 17 19:20:05 2009 +0800
summary: PSARC 2008/769 Multiple disk sector size support.

I guess the issue here is little misunderstood by the community. 
Solaris/OpenSolaris/OpenIndiana is ready for 4k drives and it uses 4k if drive 
report that.
The case with WD EARS is the drive emulates 512b sectors (it reports 512b 
instead of 4k) while it's 4k native.

Take a look at related bug report: https://www.illumos.org/issues/453
and proposed solution: 
http://lists.illumos.org/pipermail/developer/2011-January/001218.html



On Feb 9, 2011, at 7:20 PM, Edward Martinez wrote:

 Some info:
 
 
 Appears Oracle Oracle has addressed this problem in PSARC 2008/769 
 http://arc.opensolaris.org/caselog/PSARC/2008/769/final_spec.txt. This 
 seems to be a fairly generic and flexible solution, however it will only be 
 available in the next release of Solaris. It might be already integrated into 
 OpenSolaris
 
 http://arc.opensolaris.org/caselog/PSARC/2008/769/final_spec.txt
 
 http://www.solarismen.de/archives/4-Solaris-and-the-new-4K-Sector-Disks-e.g.-WDxxEARS-Part-1.html
 http://www.solarismen.de/archives/5-Solaris-and-the-new-4K-Sector-Disks-e.g.-WDxxEARS-Part-2.html
 
 -- 
 Regards,
 Edward
 
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] GPU HCL - nVidia Questions Advice

2011-02-10 Thread Guy Woolley
 Yes - it's too bad; actually the GEForce 220 worked fine when I tried 
Solaris 10 but I just couldn't get the internet to work with the rge0 
driver (which is OK with  OSOL, OI) in my machine . It's pretty obvious 
that hardware for consumer PCs is very strongly directed at Windows (why 
wouldn't they ?); if it works for anything else that's a bonus.  The 
alternative seems to be the way that was once the only way - hardware 
and OS from the same manufacturer, and priced accordingly (look at Apple 
Mac)


Regards

Guy

On 02/10/11 10:25 AM, Edward Martinez wrote:

On 02/10/11 00:57, Guy Woolley wrote:

 Ken,
   Have you seen this bug report ?

https://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=15751


I haven't tried the 256.44 driver but my GEForce 220 certainly hasn't 
worked on OI (or earlier Opensolaris)
with earlier Nvidia drivers for it - John Martin's Comments seem to 
suggest that neither Oracle nor Nvidia are very interested in a  
problem in a fairly cheap consumer graphics card that works fine with 
popular OS (it works fine for me under WinXP - I have a dual boot 
PC). I expect Ken Mays knows better than I about the current situation.




Best of luck

Guy

On 02/10/11 07:30 AM, Edward Martinez wrote:

On 02/09/11 21:52, Ken Gunderson wrote:

Hello People:

I need a new graphics card for an older system (PCIE-1.0). I don't 
game,

do graphics, rendering, etc. so don't need high end - just a good
workstation unit that supports OpenGL, good color accuracy, and draws
square squares :)  Occasional DVD's are probably about the most GPU
intensive use the system sees. Noisy fans and failed fan bearings 
are a
drag, so passive cooling is a plus, but not always a must as long 
as the

card doesn't make the box sound like a hovercraft.

So I thought I'd consult that newly created HCL wiki and was 
pleased to

note the Quadro 600 is officially supported.  The Quadro 600's price
point is attractive but otherwise I don't know much about it, as it's
relatively new unit. So I've a question for Mr. Mays; is the 600 your
daily driver, and if so, how do you like it?.

Also, the nVidia 256.44 driver's support many, many cards, yet only 4
models are listed.  I'm curios why this might be?  Shouldn't pretty 
much
any of the cards supported by those drivers work?  Or is this list 
just

a sample of stuff that's actually been tested by the OI community?

I'm not very familiar with nVidia's line and welcome suggestions.

Thanks bunches.


Hello,

I just order an nvidia Geforce GT 220 to use with OI, the 
onboard video is to weak for me, and it's listed on nvidia 's 256,44 
driver  supported

list. I will let you know if it works soon:-)




 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5296653SRCCODE=WEBLET03ORDER; 
cm_mmc=Email-_-WebletMain-_-WEBLET03ORDER-_-Deals


 http://www.nvidia.com/object/solaris-display-256.44-driver.html



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   Thanks Guy,

   I guess, i will have  to swap cards between my home systems.
   it appears it will be tougher to buy hardware for solaris then 
linux; not so long ago, i build an amd  dual core and   opensolaris 
2009, osol_snv134, solaris 10,  will not install because of a cpu bug.

   However Oracle linux, and other linux distros  run great on it.
   now it appears a bug in the solaris kernel is causing problems with 
these video cards.(geforce GT 220)
   i  would be bet Oracle does not give a hoot how solaris runs on my 
computer as long it runs great on SUN units.





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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] GPU HCL - nVidia Questions Advice

2011-02-10 Thread Deano
Any known issues, please add it into the HCL and also bug it. 

Somebody might be able to look at it at some point, and get it fixed, which
is good for everyone.

Thanks,
Deano
de...@cloudpixies.com

-Original Message-
From: Guy Woolley [mailto:guy.wool...@btinternet.com] 
Sent: 10 February 2011 10:52
To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org
Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] GPU HCL - nVidia Questions  Advice

  Yes - it's too bad; actually the GEForce 220 worked fine when I tried 
Solaris 10 but I just couldn't get the internet to work with the rge0 
driver (which is OK with  OSOL, OI) in my machine . It's pretty obvious 
that hardware for consumer PCs is very strongly directed at Windows (why 
wouldn't they ?); if it works for anything else that's a bonus.  The 
alternative seems to be the way that was once the only way - hardware 
and OS from the same manufacturer, and priced accordingly (look at Apple 
Mac)

Regards

Guy

On 02/10/11 10:25 AM, Edward Martinez wrote:
 On 02/10/11 00:57, Guy Woolley wrote:
  Ken,
Have you seen this bug report ?
 https://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=15751

 I haven't tried the 256.44 driver but my GEForce 220 certainly hasn't 
 worked on OI (or earlier Opensolaris)
 with earlier Nvidia drivers for it - John Martin's Comments seem to 
 suggest that neither Oracle nor Nvidia are very interested in a  
 problem in a fairly cheap consumer graphics card that works fine with 
 popular OS (it works fine for me under WinXP - I have a dual boot 
 PC). I expect Ken Mays knows better than I about the current situation.



 Best of luck

 Guy

 On 02/10/11 07:30 AM, Edward Martinez wrote:
 On 02/09/11 21:52, Ken Gunderson wrote:
 Hello People:

 I need a new graphics card for an older system (PCIE-1.0). I don't 
 game,
 do graphics, rendering, etc. so don't need high end - just a good
 workstation unit that supports OpenGL, good color accuracy, and draws
 square squares :)  Occasional DVD's are probably about the most GPU
 intensive use the system sees. Noisy fans and failed fan bearings 
 are a
 drag, so passive cooling is a plus, but not always a must as long 
 as the
 card doesn't make the box sound like a hovercraft.

 So I thought I'd consult that newly created HCL wiki and was 
 pleased to
 note the Quadro 600 is officially supported.  The Quadro 600's price
 point is attractive but otherwise I don't know much about it, as it's
 relatively new unit. So I've a question for Mr. Mays; is the 600 your
 daily driver, and if so, how do you like it?.

 Also, the nVidia 256.44 driver's support many, many cards, yet only 4
 models are listed.  I'm curios why this might be?  Shouldn't pretty 
 much
 any of the cards supported by those drivers work?  Or is this list 
 just
 a sample of stuff that's actually been tested by the OI community?

 I'm not very familiar with nVidia's line and welcome suggestions.

 Thanks bunches.

 Hello,

 I just order an nvidia Geforce GT 220 to use with OI, the 
 onboard video is to weak for me, and it's listed on nvidia 's 256,44 
 driver  supported
 list. I will let you know if it works soon:-)





http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5
296653SRCCODE=WEBLET03ORDER 
 cm_mmc=Email-_-WebletMain-_-WEBLET03ORDER-_-Deals

  http://www.nvidia.com/object/solaris-display-256.44-driver.html


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Thanks Guy,

I guess, i will have  to swap cards between my home systems.
it appears it will be tougher to buy hardware for solaris then 
 linux; not so long ago, i build an amd  dual core and   opensolaris 
 2009, osol_snv134, solaris 10,  will not install because of a cpu bug.
However Oracle linux, and other linux distros  run great on it.
now it appears a bug in the solaris kernel is causing problems with 
 these video cards.(geforce GT 220)
i  would be bet Oracle does not give a hoot how solaris runs on my 
 computer as long it runs great on SUN units.



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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] GPU HCL - nVidia Questions Advice

2011-02-10 Thread Guy Woolley
 According to the defect.solaris report it's a bug in the solaris 11 
kernel so it's up to Oracle/Nvidia - don't hold your breath


Guy

On 02/10/11 11:11 AM, Deano wrote:

Any known issues, please add it into the HCL and also bug it.

Somebody might be able to look at it at some point, and get it fixed, which
is good for everyone.

Thanks,
Deano
de...@cloudpixies.com

-Original Message-
From: Guy Woolley [mailto:guy.wool...@btinternet.com]
Sent: 10 February 2011 10:52
To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org
Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] GPU HCL - nVidia Questions  Advice

   Yes - it's too bad; actually the GEForce 220 worked fine when I tried
Solaris 10 but I just couldn't get the internet to work with the rge0
driver (which is OK with  OSOL, OI) in my machine . It's pretty obvious
that hardware for consumer PCs is very strongly directed at Windows (why
wouldn't they ?); if it works for anything else that's a bonus.  The
alternative seems to be the way that was once the only way - hardware
and OS from the same manufacturer, and priced accordingly (look at Apple
Mac)

Regards

Guy

On 02/10/11 10:25 AM, Edward Martinez wrote:

On 02/10/11 00:57, Guy Woolley wrote:

  Ken,
Have you seen this bug report ?

https://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=15751

I haven't tried the 256.44 driver but my GEForce 220 certainly hasn't
worked on OI (or earlier Opensolaris)
with earlier Nvidia drivers for it - John Martin's Comments seem to
suggest that neither Oracle nor Nvidia are very interested in a
problem in a fairly cheap consumer graphics card that works fine with
popular OS (it works fine for me under WinXP - I have a dual boot
PC). I expect Ken Mays knows better than I about the current situation.



Best of luck

Guy

On 02/10/11 07:30 AM, Edward Martinez wrote:

On 02/09/11 21:52, Ken Gunderson wrote:

Hello People:

I need a new graphics card for an older system (PCIE-1.0). I don't
game,
do graphics, rendering, etc. so don't need high end - just a good
workstation unit that supports OpenGL, good color accuracy, and draws
square squares :)  Occasional DVD's are probably about the most GPU
intensive use the system sees. Noisy fans and failed fan bearings
are a
drag, so passive cooling is a plus, but not always a must as long
as the
card doesn't make the box sound like a hovercraft.

So I thought I'd consult that newly created HCL wiki and was
pleased to
note the Quadro 600 is officially supported.  The Quadro 600's price
point is attractive but otherwise I don't know much about it, as it's
relatively new unit. So I've a question for Mr. Mays; is the 600 your
daily driver, and if so, how do you like it?.

Also, the nVidia 256.44 driver's support many, many cards, yet only 4
models are listed.  I'm curios why this might be?  Shouldn't pretty
much
any of the cards supported by those drivers work?  Or is this list
just
a sample of stuff that's actually been tested by the OI community?

I'm not very familiar with nVidia's line and welcome suggestions.

Thanks bunches.


 Hello,

 I just order an nvidia Geforce GT 220 to use with OI, the
onboard video is to weak for me, and it's listed on nvidia 's 256,44
driver  supported
 list. I will let you know if it works soon:-)






http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5
296653SRCCODE=WEBLET03ORDER

cm_mmc=Email-_-WebletMain-_-WEBLET03ORDER-_-Deals

  http://www.nvidia.com/object/solaris-display-256.44-driver.html


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Thanks Guy,

I guess, i will have  to swap cards between my home systems.
it appears it will be tougher to buy hardware for solaris then
linux; not so long ago, i build an amd  dual core and   opensolaris
2009, osol_snv134, solaris 10,  will not install because of a cpu bug.
However Oracle linux, and other linux distros  run great on it.
now it appears a bug in the solaris kernel is causing problems with
these video cards.(geforce GT 220)
i  would be bet Oracle does not give a hoot how solaris runs on my
computer as long it runs great on SUN units.



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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] GPU HCL - nVidia Questions Advice

2011-02-10 Thread Thorsten Heit
Hi,

 I need a new graphics card for an older system (PCIE-1.0). I don't game,
 do graphics, rendering, etc. so don't need high end - just a good
 workstation unit that supports OpenGL, good color accuracy, and draws
 square squares :)  Occasional DVD's are probably about the most GPU
 intensive use the system sees. Noisy fans and failed fan bearings are a
 drag, so passive cooling is a plus, but not always a must as long as the
 card doesn't make the box sound like a hovercraft.
 
 So I thought I'd consult that newly created HCL wiki and was pleased to
 note the Quadro 600 is officially supported.  The Quadro 600's price
 point is attractive but otherwise I don't know much about it, as it's
 relatively new unit. So I've a question for Mr. Mays; is the 600 your
 daily driver, and if so, how do you like it?.
 
 Also, the nVidia 256.44 driver's support many, many cards, yet only 4
 models are listed.  I'm curios why this might be?  Shouldn't pretty much
 any of the cards supported by those drivers work?  Or is this list just
 a sample of stuff that's actually been tested by the OI community? 
 
 I'm not very familiar with nVidia's line and welcome suggestions. 

I have a HP ProLiant ML350 G5 with a Quadro NVS 290 (PCIe 1x). As long as 
the system was running OpenSolaris (up to build 134), there were no 
problems and no need to install special drivers from NVidia's website - 
the system already contained them, although in slightly older versions. 
Recently I installed Solaris 11 Express that worked out of the box; no 
need to install the newer drivers available at NVidia's website, but they 
also work fine.


HTH

Thorsten

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] GPU HCL - nVidia Questions Advice

2011-02-10 Thread Deano
OI will be using the illumos kernel soon, so we don't necessary rely on
Oracle fixing the kernel bug.
If illumos know about it, we can look at fixing it.

OI + illumos != Solaris 11 :D

Bye,
Deano

-Original Message-
From: Guy Woolley [mailto:guy.wool...@btinternet.com] 
Sent: 10 February 2011 11:16
To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] GPU HCL - nVidia Questions  Advice

  According to the defect.solaris report it's a bug in the solaris 11 
kernel so it's up to Oracle/Nvidia - don't hold your breath

Guy

On 02/10/11 11:11 AM, Deano wrote:
 Any known issues, please add it into the HCL and also bug it.

 Somebody might be able to look at it at some point, and get it fixed,
which
 is good for everyone.

 Thanks,
 Deano
 de...@cloudpixies.com

 -Original Message-
 From: Guy Woolley [mailto:guy.wool...@btinternet.com]
 Sent: 10 February 2011 10:52
 To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org
 Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] GPU HCL - nVidia Questions  Advice

Yes - it's too bad; actually the GEForce 220 worked fine when I tried
 Solaris 10 but I just couldn't get the internet to work with the rge0
 driver (which is OK with  OSOL, OI) in my machine . It's pretty obvious
 that hardware for consumer PCs is very strongly directed at Windows (why
 wouldn't they ?); if it works for anything else that's a bonus.  The
 alternative seems to be the way that was once the only way - hardware
 and OS from the same manufacturer, and priced accordingly (look at Apple
 Mac)

 Regards

 Guy

 On 02/10/11 10:25 AM, Edward Martinez wrote:
 On 02/10/11 00:57, Guy Woolley wrote:
   Ken,
 Have you seen this bug report ?
 https://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=15751
 I haven't tried the 256.44 driver but my GEForce 220 certainly hasn't
 worked on OI (or earlier Opensolaris)
 with earlier Nvidia drivers for it - John Martin's Comments seem to
 suggest that neither Oracle nor Nvidia are very interested in a
 problem in a fairly cheap consumer graphics card that works fine with
 popular OS (it works fine for me under WinXP - I have a dual boot
 PC). I expect Ken Mays knows better than I about the current situation.



 Best of luck

 Guy

 On 02/10/11 07:30 AM, Edward Martinez wrote:
 On 02/09/11 21:52, Ken Gunderson wrote:
 Hello People:

 I need a new graphics card for an older system (PCIE-1.0). I don't
 game,
 do graphics, rendering, etc. so don't need high end - just a good
 workstation unit that supports OpenGL, good color accuracy, and draws
 square squares :)  Occasional DVD's are probably about the most GPU
 intensive use the system sees. Noisy fans and failed fan bearings
 are a
 drag, so passive cooling is a plus, but not always a must as long
 as the
 card doesn't make the box sound like a hovercraft.

 So I thought I'd consult that newly created HCL wiki and was
 pleased to
 note the Quadro 600 is officially supported.  The Quadro 600's price
 point is attractive but otherwise I don't know much about it, as it's
 relatively new unit. So I've a question for Mr. Mays; is the 600 your
 daily driver, and if so, how do you like it?.

 Also, the nVidia 256.44 driver's support many, many cards, yet only 4
 models are listed.  I'm curios why this might be?  Shouldn't pretty
 much
 any of the cards supported by those drivers work?  Or is this list
 just
 a sample of stuff that's actually been tested by the OI community?

 I'm not very familiar with nVidia's line and welcome suggestions.

 Thanks bunches.

  Hello,

  I just order an nvidia Geforce GT 220 to use with OI, the
 onboard video is to weak for me, and it's listed on nvidia 's 256,44
 driver  supported
  list. I will let you know if it works soon:-)






http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5
 296653SRCCODE=WEBLET03ORDER
 cm_mmc=Email-_-WebletMain-_-WEBLET03ORDER-_-Deals

   http://www.nvidia.com/object/solaris-display-256.44-driver.html

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 Thanks Guy,

 I guess, i will have  to swap cards between my home systems.
 it appears it will be tougher to buy hardware for solaris then
 linux; not so long ago, i build an amd  dual core and   opensolaris
 2009, osol_snv134, solaris 10,  will not install because of a cpu bug.
 However Oracle linux, and other linux distros  run great on it.
 now it appears a bug in the solaris kernel is causing problems with
 these video cards.(geforce GT 220)
 i  would be bet Oracle does not give a hoot how solaris runs on my
 computer as long it runs great on SUN units.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The Illumos pkgsrc project

2011-02-10 Thread Mads Worsøe Duun
I have updated the project page, released a new version of the script, and
made a forum. It can all be found at http://www.illumos.org/projects/worsoe.

The Illumos Pkgsrc Project
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] GPU HCL - nVidia Questions Advice

2011-02-10 Thread Guy Woolley

 I believe Illumos do know about it, see

https://www.illumos.org/issues/367

and Albert Lee pointed out to me the defect.solaris bug report (#15751) 
last October when I hit the problem.


Guy



On 02/10/11 11:47 AM, Deano wrote:

OI will be using the illumos kernel soon, so we don't necessary rely on
Oracle fixing the kernel bug.
If illumos know about it, we can look at fixing it.

OI + illumos != Solaris 11 :D

Bye,
Deano

-Original Message-
From: Guy Woolley [mailto:guy.wool...@btinternet.com]
Sent: 10 February 2011 11:16
To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] GPU HCL - nVidia Questions  Advice

   According to the defect.solaris report it's a bug in the solaris 11
kernel so it's up to Oracle/Nvidia - don't hold your breath

Guy

On 02/10/11 11:11 AM, Deano wrote:

Any known issues, please add it into the HCL and also bug it.

Somebody might be able to look at it at some point, and get it fixed,

which

is good for everyone.

Thanks,
Deano
de...@cloudpixies.com

-Original Message-
From: Guy Woolley [mailto:guy.wool...@btinternet.com]
Sent: 10 February 2011 10:52
To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org
Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] GPU HCL - nVidia Questions   Advice

Yes - it's too bad; actually the GEForce 220 worked fine when I tried
Solaris 10 but I just couldn't get the internet to work with the rge0
driver (which is OK with  OSOL, OI) in my machine . It's pretty obvious
that hardware for consumer PCs is very strongly directed at Windows (why
wouldn't they ?); if it works for anything else that's a bonus.  The
alternative seems to be the way that was once the only way - hardware
and OS from the same manufacturer, and priced accordingly (look at Apple
Mac)

Regards

Guy

On 02/10/11 10:25 AM, Edward Martinez wrote:

On 02/10/11 00:57, Guy Woolley wrote:

   Ken,
 Have you seen this bug report ?

https://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=15751

I haven't tried the 256.44 driver but my GEForce 220 certainly hasn't
worked on OI (or earlier Opensolaris)
with earlier Nvidia drivers for it - John Martin's Comments seem to
suggest that neither Oracle nor Nvidia are very interested in a
problem in a fairly cheap consumer graphics card that works fine with
popular OS (it works fine for me under WinXP - I have a dual boot
PC). I expect Ken Mays knows better than I about the current situation.



Best of luck

Guy

On 02/10/11 07:30 AM, Edward Martinez wrote:

On 02/09/11 21:52, Ken Gunderson wrote:

Hello People:

I need a new graphics card for an older system (PCIE-1.0). I don't
game,
do graphics, rendering, etc. so don't need high end - just a good
workstation unit that supports OpenGL, good color accuracy, and draws
square squares :)  Occasional DVD's are probably about the most GPU
intensive use the system sees. Noisy fans and failed fan bearings
are a
drag, so passive cooling is a plus, but not always a must as long
as the
card doesn't make the box sound like a hovercraft.

So I thought I'd consult that newly created HCL wiki and was
pleased to
note the Quadro 600 is officially supported.  The Quadro 600's price
point is attractive but otherwise I don't know much about it, as it's
relatively new unit. So I've a question for Mr. Mays; is the 600 your
daily driver, and if so, how do you like it?.

Also, the nVidia 256.44 driver's support many, many cards, yet only 4
models are listed.  I'm curios why this might be?  Shouldn't pretty
much
any of the cards supported by those drivers work?  Or is this list
just
a sample of stuff that's actually been tested by the OI community?

I'm not very familiar with nVidia's line and welcome suggestions.

Thanks bunches.


  Hello,

  I just order an nvidia Geforce GT 220 to use with OI, the
onboard video is to weak for me, and it's listed on nvidia 's 256,44
driver  supported
  list. I will let you know if it works soon:-)






http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5

296653SRCCODE=WEBLET03ORDER

cm_mmc=Email-_-WebletMain-_-WEBLET03ORDER-_-Deals

   http://www.nvidia.com/object/solaris-display-256.44-driver.html


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 Thanks Guy,

 I guess, i will have  to swap cards between my home systems.
 it appears it will be tougher to buy hardware for solaris then
linux; not so long ago, i build an amd  dual core and   opensolaris
2009, osol_snv134, solaris 10,  will not install because of a cpu bug.
 However Oracle linux, and other linux distros  run great on it.
 now it appears a bug in the solaris kernel is causing problems with
these video cards.(geforce GT 220)
 i  would be bet Oracle does not give a hoot how solaris runs on my
computer as long it runs great on SUN units.



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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] GPU HCL - nVidia Questions Advice

2011-02-10 Thread ken mays
To Ken Gunderson,

The Quadro 600 works fine.

If you want a basic low-cost graphics card, you can use the GeForce GT 430 or 
NVIDIA 9600 GT which is available in most stores today for about $50-$80 USD. I 
suggest the Nvidia 9600 GT if you're a casual 3D user (i.e. gaming or 
otherwise), or the GT 430 if you need something more 'low profile'...

I'll update the HCL to reflect 'cheaper' cards.


To Guy, 

Colin Ellis is reviewing the issues with DRI/DMA support for the Illumos team. 
A patch fix is available through Oracle's X team for the reported bug/CR 
7001754 (not officially committed yet to resolve bug so I'll say 'no' for the 
record).

Sidenote: I've tested the Nvidia drivers up to v260.19.36 with OI 148.
With the default drivers included, you can go as high-end as the Quadro 6000.

~ Ken Mays







--- On Thu, 2/10/11, Guy Woolley guy.wool...@btinternet.com wrote:

 From: Guy Woolley guy.wool...@btinternet.com
 Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] GPU HCL - nVidia Questions  Advice
 To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org
 Date: Thursday, February 10, 2011, 3:57 AM
  Ken,
        Have you seen this bug
 report ?
  https://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=15751
 
 I haven't tried the 256.44 driver but my GEForce 220
 certainly hasn't worked on OI (or earlier Opensolaris)
 with earlier Nvidia drivers for it - John Martin's Comments
 seem to suggest that neither Oracle nor Nvidia are very
 interested in a  problem in a fairly cheap consumer
 graphics card that works fine with popular OS (it works fine
 for me under WinXP - I have a dual boot PC). I expect Ken
 Mays knows better than I about the current situation.
 
 
 
 Best of luck
 
 Guy
 
 On 02/10/11 07:30 AM, Edward Martinez wrote:
  On 02/09/11 21:52, Ken Gunderson wrote:
  Hello People:
  
  I need a new graphics card for an older system
 (PCIE-1.0). I don't game,
  do graphics, rendering, etc. so don't need high
 end - just a good
  workstation unit that supports OpenGL, good color
 accuracy, and draws
  square squares :)  Occasional DVD's are
 probably about the most GPU
  intensive use the system sees. Noisy fans and
 failed fan bearings are a
  drag, so passive cooling is a plus, but not always
 a must as long as the
  card doesn't make the box sound like a
 hovercraft.
  
  So I thought I'd consult that newly created HCL
 wiki and was pleased to
  note the Quadro 600 is officially
 supported.  The Quadro 600's price
  point is attractive but otherwise I don't know
 much about it, as it's
  relatively new unit. So I've a question for Mr.
 Mays; is the 600 your
  daily driver, and if so, how do you like it?.
  
  Also, the nVidia 256.44 driver's support many,
 many cards, yet only 4
  models are listed.  I'm curios why this might
 be?  Shouldn't pretty much
  any of the cards supported by those drivers
 work?  Or is this list just
  a sample of stuff that's actually been tested by
 the OI community?
  
  I'm not very familiar with nVidia's line and
 welcome suggestions.
  
  Thanks bunches.
  
      Hello,
  
      I just order an nvidia Geforce
 GT 220 to use with OI, the onboard video is to weak for me,
 and it's listed on nvidia 's 256,44 driver  supported
      list. I will let you know if
 it works soon:-)
  
  
  
  
   
 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5296653SRCCODE=WEBLET03ORDER;
 cm_mmc=Email-_-WebletMain-_-WEBLET03ORDER-_-Deals
  
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] GPU HCL - nVidia Questions Advice

2011-02-10 Thread Ken Gunderson

On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 05:55 -0800, ken mays wrote:
 To Ken Gunderson,
 
 The Quadro 600 works fine.

Thanks, Ken.  How's the noise on that unit in a quiet room/office
environment?  In my experience larger diameter fans running at lower
rpm's are preferable to smaller units spinning fast. nVidia specs as
under 23 db but you can never believe marketing :(  I give much higher
credence to actual end users :)

 If you want a basic low-cost graphics card, you can use the GeForce GT 430 or 
 NVIDIA 9600 GT which is available in most stores today for about $50-$80 USD. 
 I suggest the Nvidia 9600 GT if you're a casual 3D user (i.e. gaming or 
 otherwise), or the GT 430 if you need something more 'low profile'...

I'm personally okay with the under $200 price point

 I'll update the HCL to reflect 'cheaper' cards.

But it's good to have some under $100 cards on the list :)

Thanks to all who replied. I think I'm going to grab a quadro 600,
unless Ken comes back with unfavorable db reports. 

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[OpenIndiana-discuss] Finding current runlevel?

2011-02-10 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
Hi all

Trying who -r on openindiana 147/148 seems to fail. I have tested this on three 
machines plus a VM so far, all on 148, but one was rebooted to an old BE with 
147 just to see if there were any differences, which there wasn't. The output I 
get is

   .   run-level 3  Feb 10 13:36 3  0  S

I have asked some people on IRC, and for some it seems to work. On the VM, I 
also tried to boot into 32bit mode, but no difference.

Btw, where should I report this bug? openindiana or illumos?

Vennlige hilsener / Best regards

roy
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Finding current runlevel?

2011-02-10 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk


- Original Message -
 Hi all
 
 Trying who -r on openindiana 147/148 seems to fail. I have tested this
 on three machines plus a VM so far, all on 148, but one was rebooted
 to an old BE with 147 just to see if there were any differences, which
 there wasn't. The output I get is
 
 . run-level 3 Feb 10 13:36 3 0 S

Sorry - that was wrong (or right). The above is what I get form an old 
opensolaris install. From OI, I get this

 run-level2011-02-10 13:43

Vennlige hilsener / Best regards

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] GPU HCL - nVidia Questions Advice

2011-02-10 Thread Guy Woolley

 Thanks very much for the information

Cheers

Guy

On 02/10/11 01:55 PM, ken mays wrote:

To Ken Gunderson,

The Quadro 600 works fine.

If you want a basic low-cost graphics card, you can use the GeForce GT 430 or 
NVIDIA 9600 GT which is available in most stores today for about $50-$80 USD. I 
suggest the Nvidia 9600 GT if you're a casual 3D user (i.e. gaming or 
otherwise), or the GT 430 if you need something more 'low profile'...

I'll update the HCL to reflect 'cheaper' cards.


To Guy,

Colin Ellis is reviewing the issues with DRI/DMA support for the Illumos team. 
A patch fix is available through Oracle's X team for the reported bug/CR 
7001754 (not officially committed yet to resolve bug so I'll say 'no' for the 
record).

Sidenote: I've tested the Nvidia drivers up to v260.19.36 with OI 148.
With the default drivers included, you can go as high-end as the Quadro 6000.

~ Ken Mays







--- On Thu, 2/10/11, Guy Woolleyguy.wool...@btinternet.com  wrote:


From: Guy Woolleyguy.wool...@btinternet.com
Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] GPU HCL - nVidia Questions  Advice
To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org
Date: Thursday, February 10, 2011, 3:57 AM
  Ken,
Have you seen this bug
report ?

https://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=15751

I haven't tried the 256.44 driver but my GEForce 220
certainly hasn't worked on OI (or earlier Opensolaris)
with earlier Nvidia drivers for it - John Martin's Comments
seem to suggest that neither Oracle nor Nvidia are very
interested in a  problem in a fairly cheap consumer
graphics card that works fine with popular OS (it works fine
for me under WinXP - I have a dual boot PC). I expect Ken
Mays knows better than I about the current situation.



Best of luck

Guy

On 02/10/11 07:30 AM, Edward Martinez wrote:

On 02/09/11 21:52, Ken Gunderson wrote:

Hello People:

I need a new graphics card for an older system

(PCIE-1.0). I don't game,

do graphics, rendering, etc. so don't need high

end - just a good

workstation unit that supports OpenGL, good color

accuracy, and draws

square squares :)  Occasional DVD's are

probably about the most GPU

intensive use the system sees. Noisy fans and

failed fan bearings are a

drag, so passive cooling is a plus, but not always

a must as long as the

card doesn't make the box sound like a

hovercraft.

So I thought I'd consult that newly created HCL

wiki and was pleased to

note the Quadro 600 is officially

supported.  The Quadro 600's price

point is attractive but otherwise I don't know

much about it, as it's

relatively new unit. So I've a question for Mr.

Mays; is the 600 your

daily driver, and if so, how do you like it?.

Also, the nVidia 256.44 driver's support many,

many cards, yet only 4

models are listed.  I'm curios why this might

be?  Shouldn't pretty much

any of the cards supported by those drivers

work?  Or is this list just

a sample of stuff that's actually been tested by

the OI community?

I'm not very familiar with nVidia's line and

welcome suggestions.

Thanks bunches.


  Hello,

  I just order an nvidia Geforce

GT 220 to use with OI, the onboard video is to weak for me,
and it's listed on nvidia 's 256,44 driver  supported

  list. I will let you know if

it works soon:-)




   
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[OpenIndiana-discuss] local ips packages

2011-02-10 Thread hairryharry

Hi,

I ahve just set up my netbook withoi148. All good but have downloaded
and installed a lot of packages from various IPS repos.

Now I am setting up my desktop and would like the same packages. Using
the package manager export function does make life a little easier but
the packages still need to be downloaded.

My question is are those packages still present on the netbook such that
I can easily transfer them over and use a local repo to install them on
the desktop.

This would save time although I do have unlimited but slow broad band.

Thanks,

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Finding current runlevel?

2011-02-10 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
 This seems to be a bug in GNU who implementation.
 
 Running this in Solaris 10, I get:
 
 
 [root@stargate-host /]# /usr/bin/who -r (NATIVE SUN VERSION)
 . run-level 3 Jan 18 20:33 3 0 S
 
 [root@stargate-host /]# /usr/local/bin/who -r (GNU VERSION)
 run-level Jan 18 20:33
 

Seems you're right

rsk@prv-backup:~$ /usr/bin/who -r
   .   run-level 3  Feb 10 13:36 3  0  S
rsk@prv-backup:~$ who -r
 run-level2011-02-10 13:36
rsk@prv-backup:~$ which who
/usr/gnu/bin/who
rsk@prv-backup:~$ 

So where should I report this bug?

Vennlige hilsener / Best regards

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[OpenIndiana-discuss] Pkgbuild with IPS and SVR4 packages

2011-02-10 Thread Gary Mills
I now have a spec file for the ISC DHCP server that permits me to
build an IPS package under Solaris 11 x86 or SVR4 packages under
Solaris 10 SPARC and x86.  I'm quite impressed with `pkgbuild'.
This effort has raised a few questions in my mind.

First of all, I discovered that I can't build a Solaris 11 package
under Solaris 10 because a few things have changed between these
versions.  These include the manifest location, the run path, and the
shared library versions.  As well, the dependancies change from SVR4
package names to IPS package names.  Is there any way around these
problems?

Some IPS packages contain both SPARC and x86 executables.  Is there
a way to build these with pkgbuild?

Do SPARC and x86 IPS packages reside in the same repository, or should
there be separate repositories for the two architectures?

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] GPU HCL - nVidia Questions Advice

2011-02-10 Thread Ken Gunderson

On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 09:00 -0800, Bill Sommerfeld wrote:
 On 02/09/11 21:52, Ken Gunderson wrote:
  I need a new graphics card for an older system (PCIE-1.0). I don't game,
  do graphics, rendering, etc. so don't need high end - just a good
  workstation unit that supports OpenGL, good color accuracy, and draws
  square squares :)  Occasional DVD's are probably about the most GPU
  intensive use the system sees. Noisy fans and failed fan bearings are a
  drag, so passive cooling is a plus, but not always a must as long as the
  card doesn't make the box sound like a hovercraft.
 
 I've been happy with:
 
 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0024NL1E0
 
 in a system built around a Tyan S2865-family motherboard(which may well 
 qualify as an older system now).  Passive cooling.  Drives two 24 
 LCD's quite happily.
 
 That model fits in a pcie x16 slot.  i believe there's also a pcie x1 
 slot version if you really don't need performance...

Thanks for the pointer.  The 295 also made my short list and the passive
cooling is a plus.  The Quadro 600 seems like a lot more card for not
very much more money, however, and since Ken reports first hand that the
600 is nice and quiet, seemed like the way to go.  Now that I have first
hand report of the 295, I'll give it a bit more thought and
consideration, as even though the 600 is quiet, the box runs pretty much
24x7 and no moving parts to wear out is a plus.

PCIE2 cards downgrade to PCIE1 (and vice versa), you just loose the
extra bandwidth.  At least that's the theory w.r.t. the spec.  I've yet
to actually try it.

Oh yeah, and an S2865 based system is exactly what it will be calling
home. Only single 24 LCD at present.  

Thanks again to all-- Ken

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [power management] S3 suspend failure on resume.

2011-02-10 Thread C C

 
As a follow up to my own message I did some more testing; I thought posting the 
results might spur some ideas:
 
I set up a serial console and using a test I found on the old opensolaris 
mailing list

   /usr/sbin/pmconfig
 /usr/sbin/modload -p misc/cpr
 
(
 
    echo 'cpr_debug/W 3;'
    echo 'pm_debug/W 0x8000;'
 
) | mdb -wk
  
/usr/sbin/sync; /usr/sbin/sync; /usr/sbin/sync
 
/usr/sbin/uadmin 3 22
 
the system sleeps and resumes perfectly fine. There are no errors or warnings 
output to console, every device sleeps and wakes just fine.
 
When I go to the realworld and use 3 20 to actually shut down power the same 
issues as my previous message. The system suspends without any problems all the 
debug output to console is positive and it suspends cleanly. After waking the 
system never comes back and nothing gets output to the console. It seems some 
how related to the actual power up sequence. 
I'd really like to work to get this fixed as I think the home nas server market 
is important for OI as a project.
Thanks again for any thoughts!C
 
 

 From: l...@live.ca
 To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org
 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 18:12:34 -0500
 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [power management] S3 suspend failure on 
 resume.




 Hi


 I'm having some issues with getting my system to resume from s3 suspend on 
 the latest oi image 148. The system is a intel pentium dual core running on 
 an nforce 610i based board. BIOS is set to allow s3 and it works under other 
 operating systems.  When I suspend the system via sys-suspend, gnome or 
 uadmin 3 20  it suspends fine and  System is being suspended is written to 
 the dmesg log. When I go to resume the system via either the button or a 
 mouse click it does power up, fans and drives spin up, LEDs come on but the 
 display never comes back and neither does the nic if I attempt to ssh in it 
 just times out.  The only way back to a working system is the hardware reset 
 button or holding the power button down until it powers off. Upon rebooting 
 there is nothing of note in /var/adm/messages after the System is being 
 suspended line the next is the regular bootup line.

  I've tried with  and without x running with the same result. If I issue 
 uadmin 3 22 suspend to ram but don't power off and resume normally 
 everything works perfectly the system suspends and resumes without error. So 
 I can only guess it has something to do with the power up sequence but I have 
 no idea how to troubleshoot this further or even to open a ticket as I don't 
 have any logs or data about the failure. If anyone has any guidance about how 
 to further troubleshoot this  or collect some data for a bug report I'd 
 really appreciate it!


 Thanks
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] GPU HCL - nVidia Questions Advice

2011-02-10 Thread Ken Gunderson

On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 05:55 -0800, ken mays wrote:
 To Ken Gunderson,
 
 The Quadro 600 works fine.
 
 If you want a basic low-cost graphics card, you can use the GeForce GT 430 or 
 NVIDIA 9600 GT which is available in most stores today for about $50-$80 USD. 
 I suggest the Nvidia 9600 GT if you're a casual 3D user (i.e. gaming or 
 otherwise), or the GT 430 if you need something more 'low profile'...
 
 I'll update the HCL to reflect 'cheaper' cards.

Lol, latest update now includes the Quadro 6000 and some other not so
inexpensive models. Hope you're not paying for this stuff out of your
own pocket ;-P

 To Guy, 
 
 Colin Ellis is reviewing the issues with DRI/DMA support for the Illumos 
 team. A patch fix is available through Oracle's X team for the reported 
 bug/CR 7001754 (not officially committed yet to resolve bug so I'll say 'no' 
 for the record).
 
 Sidenote: I've tested the Nvidia drivers up to v260.19.36 with OI 148.
 With the default drivers included, you can go as high-end as the Quadro 6000.

Does anyone else think it might be nice to have an additional, separate
list for cards supported by the default drivers?

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] local ips packages

2011-02-10 Thread Thorsten Heit
Hi,

 I ahve just set up my netbook withoi148. All good but have downloaded
 and installed a lot of packages from various IPS repos.
 
 Now I am setting up my desktop and would like the same packages. Using
 the package manager export function does make life a little easier but
 the packages still need to be downloaded.
 
 My question is are those packages still present on the netbook such that
 I can easily transfer them over and use a local repo to install them on
 the desktop.

The package files should be contained under /var/pkg/download as long as 
the pkg property flush-content-cache-on-success isn't set to false; 
see pkg property.


HTH

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] local ips packages

2011-02-10 Thread Thorsten Heit
Hi,

 The package files should be contained under /var/pkg/download as long as 

 the pkg property flush-content-cache-on-success isn't set to false; 
 see pkg property.

s/false/true

mea culpa... :-)


Thorsten

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