Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] XDMCP not working
On Feb 13, 2011, at 5:02 PM, Gary wrote: > On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Frank Middleton wrote: >> AFAIK you don't need to enable xfs. > > I haven't used xfs since decommissioning some X-terminals years ago > when we replaced them with the then brand new Sun Ray clients... q.v > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Font_Server#Future If I display e.g. CDE apps running on Solaris 9 (or SXCE) back to my Mac, I'm better off if one of the Solaris boxes runs xfs and is referenced by the font path on the Mac's X server, so that all the fonts that CDE expects will be available. In other words, in heterogenous environments, xfs can sometimes be one way of solving missing font problems. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] XDMCP not working
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Frank Middleton wrote: > AFAIK you don't need to enable xfs. I haven't used xfs since decommissioning some X-terminals years ago when we replaced them with the then brand new Sun Ray clients... q.v http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Font_Server#Future -Gary ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Second Look at OI "Stable" Proposal (was Re: Proposal: OpenIndiana Stable Branch)
On Sun, 2011-02-13 at 19:58 +, Deano wrote: > Hi Ken, > > Most of us agree that the more packages and more of a cross section the > stable build has, the better. > However the main issue is supporting it, it's not simply packaging, its > maintaining it to a high enough standard to be considered "stable", if > someone can come forward and not only offer a package but be willing to look > after it, follow the security alerts, package and patch it, then great. > For now we have some great people supporting many packages and > consolidation, but getting more into the stable list requires more people > interested in helping. I understand that. Be that as it may, however, consider the perception of a potential end user who hears about OI's "stable" server release and takes if for a test spin, only to learn that there's not even one single, solitary supported IMAP package. Last I looked, email was #1 use of the Internet, followed by WWW. Granted it's been a couple years since I last checked, but if email is not #1 I'll wager it's close behind as #2. Hence, in m view, that seems like a huge sector to be blowing off. Especially in light of comparatively rich support on the web framework front; apache, php, java, tomcat, python, ruby, & perl. As well as having other major Internet service bases covered between Bind & Sendmail, and not one, but two RDBMS systems. An IMAP option is, ohmo, is an essential component server side and the lack thereof not only leaves a huge gaping hole, but also potentially paints a target for negative evaluations and reviews. I don't really speak for the OI dev community so did not feel like it was my place to solicit help from e.g. Cyrus dev community. But I suspect that if someone of a bit higher profile approached them they'd be receptive. Problem solved, no? I say Cyrus becuase I've used pretty much all of these at one time or another and in modern times the choice pretty much boils down to Cyrus or Dovecot. Dovecot is less feature complete and under more active development. Cyrus would therefore likely involve less effort on the pkg maintenance side. My $0.02. I'm just trying to help. -- Ken Gunderson ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Second Look at OI "Stable" Proposal (was Re: Proposal: OpenIndiana Stable Branch)
On Feb 13, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Ken Gunderson wrote: > I was just taking a second (well, actually third) look at this and the > more important baby (IMAP) was thrown out with the bath water (MTA > debate). Both Cyrus (as perhaps most scalable/enterprise grade open source IMAP server) and Dovecot (backwards compatible with existing text mailboxes) may well have their place; one of those cases where, if keeping them both well maintained isn't too burdensome, choice would be desirable. (I've run UW imapd on Solaris 9 and later; poor performance, but for personal use only, the backward compatibility was a big deal, esp. since some Usenet readers can save to a text mbox file, and one can then use a mail client to read (and maybe even thread) the saved messages.) ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Second Look at OI "Stable" Proposal (was Re: Proposal: OpenIndiana Stable Branch)
Hi Ken, Most of us agree that the more packages and more of a cross section the stable build has, the better. However the main issue is supporting it, it's not simply packaging, its maintaining it to a high enough standard to be considered "stable", if someone can come forward and not only offer a package but be willing to look after it, follow the security alerts, package and patch it, then great. For now we have some great people supporting many packages and consolidation, but getting more into the stable list requires more people interested in helping. Bye, Deano de...@cloudpixies.com -Original Message- From: Ken Gunderson [mailto:kgund...@teamcool.net] Sent: 13 February 2011 19:14 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Second Look at OI "Stable" Proposal (was Re: Proposal: OpenIndiana Stable Branch) I was just taking a second (well, actually third) look at this and the more important baby (IMAP) was thrown out with the bath water (MTA debate). On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 11:50 -0700, Ken Gunderson wrote: > On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 20:36 +, Alasdair Lumsden wrote: > > Hi All, > > [snip] > Despite all it's goodness, one, if not the, primary detractor to Open > Solaris's uptake was a paucity of 3rd party packages. Postponing until > IllumOS integraton would allow more time for the repository to be > updated and fleshed out, thereby creating a better initial impression of > "fresh and up to date" Open Solaris based system. If the minimal > supported server now path is chosen, then I think there really needs to > be some POP3/IMAP package on the list, because it's not all just about > web servers. Cyrus or Dovecot would be good choices. The proposed minimal set of packages to be supported is very web server centric. Email is still a BIG component of the Internet and I believe that at least one IMAP package should be included in the supported list. And that package should be either Dovecot (simpler) or Cyrus (bigger enterprise ready and more RFC conformant). There are many people running large Cyrus ZFS installations on Solaris based systems (although many OpenSolaris may have migrated by now) so I think it might not bee too difficult if we approached the appropriate Cyrus mailing list with a request to package for OI. Probably similarly for Dovecot, as last I communicated with Timo (admittedly in early Dovecot development) he was very helpful guy. My personal preference would be for Cyrus because of the RFC feature/conformance aspect. Also, I think SSH needs to be added to the supported list. I'm sure this one was merely an oversight. Thank you and have a nice day. -- Ken Gunderson ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] minimum hardware requirements for OI build environment
Unfortunately the text only install is fairly big, most of the package and consolidation were made for the GUI version and as such have lots of dependencies that don't strictly belong for a text install. As it will mean splitting lots of packages into two parts, it is quite a bit of work and so far man power has left it on the nice idea list. Gives most of us these days can waste a few gig without noticing, the main concern is really attack footprint for hackers. I was hoping to undertake some of the work myself but after a little digging found lots of tasks that are more important imho Bye, Deano -Original Message-, From: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk [mailto:r...@karlsbakk.net] Sent: 13 February 2011 19:14 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] minimum hardware requirements for OI build environment > Yes, we do appear to be missing that page, i'll update the FAQ. It > should be roughly the same as S11 Express. > > Disk space Disk space: Recommended size is 7GB. A minimum of 3GB is > required. Does OI text install require 3 gigs? I thought it was more like haf a gig Vennlige hilsener / Best regards roy -- Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk (+47) 97542685 r...@karlsbakk.net http://blogg.karlsbakk.net/ -- I all pedagogikk er det essensielt at pensum presenteres intelligibelt. Det er et elementært imperativ for alle pedagoger å unngå eksessiv anvendelse av idiomer med fremmed opprinnelse. I de fleste tilfeller eksisterer adekvate og relevante synonymer på norsk. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Second Look at OI "Stable" Proposal (was Re: Proposal: OpenIndiana Stable Branch)
I was just taking a second (well, actually third) look at this and the more important baby (IMAP) was thrown out with the bath water (MTA debate). On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 11:50 -0700, Ken Gunderson wrote: > On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 20:36 +, Alasdair Lumsden wrote: > > Hi All, > > [snip] > Despite all it's goodness, one, if not the, primary detractor to Open > Solaris's uptake was a paucity of 3rd party packages. Postponing until > IllumOS integraton would allow more time for the repository to be > updated and fleshed out, thereby creating a better initial impression of > "fresh and up to date" Open Solaris based system. If the minimal > supported server now path is chosen, then I think there really needs to > be some POP3/IMAP package on the list, because it's not all just about > web servers. Cyrus or Dovecot would be good choices. The proposed minimal set of packages to be supported is very web server centric. Email is still a BIG component of the Internet and I believe that at least one IMAP package should be included in the supported list. And that package should be either Dovecot (simpler) or Cyrus (bigger enterprise ready and more RFC conformant). There are many people running large Cyrus ZFS installations on Solaris based systems (although many OpenSolaris may have migrated by now) so I think it might not bee too difficult if we approached the appropriate Cyrus mailing list with a request to package for OI. Probably similarly for Dovecot, as last I communicated with Timo (admittedly in early Dovecot development) he was very helpful guy. My personal preference would be for Cyrus because of the RFC feature/conformance aspect. Also, I think SSH needs to be added to the supported list. I'm sure this one was merely an oversight. Thank you and have a nice day. -- Ken Gunderson ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] minimum hardware requirements for OI build environment
> Yes, we do appear to be missing that page, i'll update the FAQ. It > should be roughly the same as S11 Express. > > Disk space Disk space: Recommended size is 7GB. A minimum of 3GB is > required. Does OI text install require 3 gigs? I thought it was more like haf a gig Vennlige hilsener / Best regards roy -- Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk (+47) 97542685 r...@karlsbakk.net http://blogg.karlsbakk.net/ -- I all pedagogikk er det essensielt at pensum presenteres intelligibelt. Det er et elementært imperativ for alle pedagoger å unngå eksessiv anvendelse av idiomer med fremmed opprinnelse. I de fleste tilfeller eksisterer adekvate og relevante synonymer på norsk. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] minimum hardware requirements for OI build environment
On 13/02/2011 18:50, Ron McDowell wrote: > I'd like to set up a [VMware] image where I can play with building > OI. What would be a bare-minimum, and a "recommended" memory/disk > size for doing so? I don't see anything about that in the wiki or > FAQ. Thanks. > Hi, Yes, we do appear to be missing that page, i'll update the FAQ. It should be roughly the same as S11 Express. Disk space Disk space: Recommended size is 7GB. A minimum of 3GB is required. Memory Memory: The minimum requirement is 512MB. Recommended size is 768MB Cheers, Matt ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] minimum hardware requirements for OI build environment
I'd like to set up a [VMware] image where I can play with building OI. What would be a bare-minimum, and a "recommended" memory/disk size for doing so? I don't see anything about that in the wiki or FAQ. Thanks. -- Ron McDowell San Antonio TX ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] XDMCP not working
On 02/13/11 00:37, Robin Axelsson wrote: Hello I want to open up an XDMCP Session with my OpenIndiana machine from a remote computer on a local network but it doesn't work. I can only run multiple-window programs via PuTTy (in Xming for windows) but when I want to establish a session, all I get is a gray screen. Are you sure that the hostnames are being resolved correctly? It is easy to forget to check nsswitch.conf. If there are any name resolution problems xdmcp will not work. You should also check custom.conf in /etc/gdm to make sure that; DisallowTCP=false is set in the [security] section. AFAIK you don't need to enable xfs. HTH -- Frank ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Driver for VT6420 sata raid kontoller
FWIW Two port Si3132 based boards are cheap (~$30US) and appear to be well supported from Solaris 10 on. http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=567574&highlight=RAIDZ --- On Sun, 2/13/11, Johan Nilsson wrote: > From: Johan Nilsson > Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Driver for VT6420 sata raid kontoller > To: OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org > Date: Sunday, February 13, 2011, 4:15 AM > Is there a driver for the sata-bus: > 00:0f.0 RAID bus controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA > VT6420 SATA RAID > Controller (rev 80) > > just want to put a singel disk, not raid, to the sata > channel. > ___ > OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list > OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545367 ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Performance problem with Flash & Firefox 4.0 b10
>Update to Flash 10.2 and retry with your OI_148 test environment. > >~ Ken Mays Just for the record, I have tried this new version of Firefox with the new flash plugin on a netbook running OI_148 and it works just fine. A.S. -- Apostolos Syropoulos Xanthi, Greece No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Driver for VT6420 sata raid kontoller
Is there a driver for the sata-bus: 00:0f.0 RAID bus controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA VT6420 SATA RAID Controller (rev 80) just want to put a singel disk, not raid, to the sata channel. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
