Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post
On 02/20/11 21:27, Okky Hendriansyah wrote: Hi WK, AFAIK, the most available consumer level boards out there that support ECC RAM is ASUS. Not all ASUS boards though, but I see it more from ASUS than other board. At least that's the way they are in my country. I'm having difficulties on finding Unbuffered ECC RAM, since usually consumer level boards and AMD CPU (not Opteron) only support Unbuffered ones, not the Registered ones. CMIIW. Okky Hendriansyah --Original Message-- From: WK To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org ReplyTo: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post Sent: Feb 21, 2011 08:45 Does the Gigabyte board handle ECC memory? After my backups started failing verification, I realized how easily a stick of bad ram can corrupt files, and I made sure my motherboards support ECC memory. It's not too expensive, but I wish it was more widely used so the price would drop further. On 2/19/2011 10:40 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: PARTS: Motherboards: AMD 64 AM3 Motherboards GIGABYTE GA-890GPA-UD3H,Onboard Video,HDMI,X-fire,USB 3.0,SATA3,IEEE PARTS: Memory: DDR3 Dual Channel memory 16GB (4x4GB) PC10600 DDR3 1333 Dual Channel ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss Hi, Here is probably the cheap ECC supported board priced at $39.99 i will ever see: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121269 -- Regards, Edward ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post
I've found memoryx.com has some of the best prices and often most obscure RAM available. They'll even build their own if necessary and their support is top notch. -Gary ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post
Hi WK, AFAIK, the most available consumer level boards out there that support ECC RAM is ASUS. Not all ASUS boards though, but I see it more from ASUS than other board. At least that's the way they are in my country. I'm having difficulties on finding Unbuffered ECC RAM, since usually consumer level boards and AMD CPU (not Opteron) only support Unbuffered ones, not the Registered ones. CMIIW. Okky Hendriansyah --Original Message-- From: WK To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org ReplyTo: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post Sent: Feb 21, 2011 08:45 Does the Gigabyte board handle ECC memory? After my backups started failing verification, I realized how easily a stick of bad ram can corrupt files, and I made sure my motherboards support ECC memory. It's not too expensive, but I wish it was more widely used so the price would drop further. On 2/19/2011 10:40 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > PARTS: Motherboards: AMD 64 AM3 Motherboards > GIGABYTE GA-890GPA-UD3H,Onboard Video,HDMI,X-fire,USB > 3.0,SATA3,IEEE > > PARTS: Memory: DDR3 Dual Channel memory > 16GB (4x4GB) PC10600 DDR3 1333 Dual Channel > > ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] New IRC logs
On 02/20/11 08:11, Deano wrote: Hi, The nice man at echelog.matzon.dk, hosts nicely presented IRC logs for various open source projects, I asked him to add OI which he has now done. So for those who either can't hang on IRC all day or just prefer reading at your leisure, there are now links off the wiki at http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/IRC+Chat for both #openindiana and #oi-dev Plus you get to see where in the world we are all chatting from! Also we now have a twitter feed on the website's front page, its linked to #openindiana hashtag, so please twitter about anything related to OI, so others can see how useful it is J Thanks, Deano de...@cloudpixies.com ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss Hi, Thanks Deano . I have been searching for this for sometime. -- Regards, Edward ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post
Does the Gigabyte board handle ECC memory? After my backups started failing verification, I realized how easily a stick of bad ram can corrupt files, and I made sure my motherboards support ECC memory. It's not too expensive, but I wish it was more widely used so the price would drop further. On 2/19/2011 10:40 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: PARTS: Motherboards: AMD 64 AM3 Motherboards GIGABYTE GA-890GPA-UD3H,Onboard Video,HDMI,X-fire,USB 3.0,SATA3,IEEE PARTS: Memory: DDR3 Dual Channel memory 16GB (4x4GB) PC10600 DDR3 1333 Dual Channel ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Odd pkg problem
Trying to set up a new amd64 server for doing Illumos builds and ran into this... # pkg install developer/java/jdk Creating Plan /pkg: No matching version of developer/java/jdk can be installed: pkg://openindiana.org/developer/java/jdk@0.5.11,5.11-0.148:20101125T003225Z: This version is excluded by installed incorporation pkg://opensolaris.org/consolidation/ub_javavm/ub_javavm-incorporation@0.5.11,5.11-0.134:20100302T010731Z # pkg uninstall pkg://opensolaris.org/consolidation/ub_javavm/ub_javavm-incorporation@0.5.11,5.11-0.134:20100302T010731Z Creating Planpkg: Cannot remove 'pkg://opensolaris.org/consolidation/ub_javavm/ub_javavm-incorporation@0.5.11,5.11-0.134:20100302T010731Z' due to the following packages that depend on it: pkg://openindiana.org/entire@0.5.11,5.11-0.147:20100914T054011Z pkg://opensolaris.org/runtime/java@0.5.11,5.11-0.134:20100302T044237Z # uname -a SunOS apogee16 5.11 oi_148 i86pc i386 i86pc Solaris AFAICT everything else looks good. Any suggestions? Thanks -- Frank ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] 2 small Qs about Sata controllers
On 2011-02-20 10:21, Alexander Lesle wrote: Hello Robin Axelsson and List, On Februar, 20 2011, 00:15 wrote in [1]: On 2011-02-19 19:26, Alexander Lesle wrote: Hello Robin Axelsson, am Samstag, 19. Februar 2011 um 02:14 hat u.a. in mid:4d5f197c.4060...@student.chalmers.se geschrieben: I would recommend that you choose a motherboard with more PCIe x16 slots (unless you are absolutely sure that you won't need more in the future). Then you could get an LSI 1068e based SAS/SATA controller (that uses PCIe x8 which fits into a PCIe x16 but not x4 or less) which allows you to connect 8 drives to it. I can not confirm that the LSI 1068e HBA runs with this Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131655 ASUS M4A89TD PRO/USB3 AM3 AMD 890FX But I can confirm that the new LSI HBA SAS 9211-8i http://store.lsi.com/index.cfm?category=17&subcategory=24&productid=LSI00194 do _not_ run with this Board. LSI support tells me that the Asus PCIe x16 is programmed by BIOS only for graphic cards. Asus support send me a modified BIOS but the HBA is not running. I have the same problems with a asrock board. Now I have bought a Supermicro Board and all rocks fine. http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon3000/#1156 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182212&cm_re=supermicro_x8sil-_-13-182-212-_-Product Wow its cheaper than the Asus. Wow, I never heard before that there was such a problem with motherboards. http://kb.lsi.com/KnowledgebaseArticle15591.aspx?Keywords=15591 The motherboards I have tried my LSI SAS 3081E-R are GIgabyte GA-790FXTA-UD5 and MSI 790FX-GD70 and it runs fine on both of them. I recently got an MSI 890FX-GD70 and although I have not tried I can't imagine that there would be a problem to fit such a card into one of its x16 slots. From what you told me it looks like I should stay away from Asus and ASRock's motherboards (ASUS and ASRock are pretty much the same company but I guess you already know that). I hope you give them a hard time on the phone, make them regret that they have released such a motherboard ;) Thats fine for you. Asus and Asrock are the same company? Ok fine, thats new for me. I have no problems with this company. I told here my experience with this board and this HBA card. I beg to differ; if you buy from a company a product that doesn't work and they don't solve the problem then you _do_ have a problem with that company. Motherboard vendors are notorious for their poor customer service and while they give you a checklist (if you are lucky enough to get in touch with them) asking questions that are irrelevant to the problem (such as is the card inserted properly? Are the power cables properly connected? Do you use latest firmware? ...) they are very reluctant to actually fix the problem. That is my experience with motherboard vendors such as Asus, Gigabyte and MSI. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] xVM in OpenIndiana?
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 04:07:48AM -0800, Gary Driggs wrote: > On Feb 19, 2011, at 11:56 PM, Michael Schuster wrote: > > Ops Center isn't a replacement for xVM (the hypervisor), but a management > > tool. > > Correct. But there hasn't been any confirmation from Oracle as to whether xVM > (or any) source will be available after Solaris 11 releases outside the > "Express" series. In the mean time, AFAIK nobody in OI/Illumos have taken > ownership of that code to update it. > Afaik Oracle killed XVM, and it's going to be removed from Solaris 11. (They just didn't have time to remove it yet from sol11 express). Oracle also has OracleVM, which is also Xen based, but has Linux dom0 kernel instead. It seems Oracle is focusing on OracleVM nowadays. -- Pasi ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] 2 Node ZFS ISCSI failover Cluster with one SAS storage attached
Am Sonntag, den 20.02.2011, 19:45 +0100 schrieb Bernd Helber: > > Personally if i had to run a business... i would stick to the > Original. > Also think about, you get what you pay for. true words :-) But the money we get from the university isn't the same years before :-/ So, I will check freeBSD 8.2 and OSOL :-) Thanks and have a nice weekend cu denny ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] 2 Node ZFS ISCSI failover Cluster with one SAS storage attached
Am 20.02.11 18:31, schrieb Denny Schierz: > hi Bernd, > > yeah, but the problem is, OpenSolaris is death and we don't get any > (security?) updates more. > I'm fully aware about this issue. In Fact its dead. But is it necessary for you to get every update for a Failover Solution in your scenario? I assume if those boxes are locked up in a data center, without access to the Internet you could live very long with those kind of solution. Or buy Solaris 10 Licences and Sun Cluster 3.3 If its necessary for your business you should think about it. >> For the future You may have a look onto >> http://www.illumos.org/projects/ihac > > hmm, no release date .. > >> The other Alternative could be the FreeBSD HAST Project as you mentioned. > > HAST is only for create a mirror, what we don't need, 'cause the nodes > have access to all disks at the same time, through the SAS HBA. > > Also the ZFS Version is bit old (14). It's all bad :-/ > There's nothing wrong with an old ZFS Version, and FreeBSD is rock stable. They tend to be conservative, and you don't get every neat feature, which could possibly be handy. But the implemented Releases tend to work very well, and i think thats the most important point. > But, we need only a few components of a cluster, like carp (in BSD > words) for a global IP and detecting if the master node isn't there > anymore and take over the IP + importing the pool. Maybe there is a > chance under OI. > Not yet, maybe you check out if Veritas Cluster will run under OI, but it will cost a few bucks. Personally if i had to run a business... i would stick to the Original. Also think about, you get what you pay for. > cu denny > Cu and take care :-) > > > ___ > OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list > OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss -- with kind regards Bernd Helber _.-|-/\-._ \-' '-. //\/\\/ \/ <. > ./. \/ _ / < > /___\ |. .< \ / < /\> ( #) |#) | |< /\ -. __\ \ < < V > )./_._(\ .)/\ < < .- / \_'_) )-.. \ < ./ / > > /._./ /\ < '-' >>/ '-._ < v> _.-' / '-.__.·' \ \/ *** ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] 2 Node ZFS ISCSI failover Cluster with one SAS storage attached
hi Bernd, Am Sonntag, den 20.02.2011, 17:58 +0100 schrieb Bernd Helber: > the only solution for this issue is to install Opensolaris 2009.6 and to > build Open HA Cluster from source. It's comparable to Sun Cluster 3.2 yeah, but the problem is, OpenSolaris is death and we don't get any (security?) updates more. > For the future You may have a look onto > http://www.illumos.org/projects/ihac hmm, no release date .. > The other Alternative could be the FreeBSD HAST Project as you mentioned. HAST is only for create a mirror, what we don't need, 'cause the nodes have access to all disks at the same time, through the SAS HBA. Also the ZFS Version is bit old (14). It's all bad :-/ But, we need only a few components of a cluster, like carp (in BSD words) for a global IP and detecting if the master node isn't there anymore and take over the IP + importing the pool. Maybe there is a chance under OI. cu denny ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] 2 Node ZFS ISCSI failover Cluster with one SAS storage attached
Dear Denny. For the moment the only solution for this issue is to install Opensolaris 2009.6 and to build Open HA Cluster from source. It's comparable to Sun Cluster 3.2 For the future You may have a look onto http://www.illumos.org/projects/ihac The other Alternative could be the FreeBSD HAST Project as you mentioned. Am 20.02.11 17:22, schrieb Denny Schierz: > hi, > > we want to build a two node failover cluster for exporting ZFS Volumes via > ISCSI. The nodes are connected both to one 90TB SAS storage. We had success > with Solaris 10 and the HA Storage plus Cluster package (3.x), but after > Oracle has changed the license with Sol10/U9, we can't use it anymore for > free :-( > So, does OpenIndiana has everything, what we had under Solaris? Otherwise, > can we use other tools, without heavy scripting? > I looked also for FreeBSD (x.14) (carp + devd), but the ZFS version is a bit > old and there is no ISCSI-Target on board. > > any suggestions? > > cu denny > ___ > OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list > OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss -- with kind regards Bernd Helber _.-|-/\-._ \-' '-. //\/\\/ \/ <. > ./. \/ _ / < > /___\ |. .< \ / < /\> ( #) |#) | |< /\ -. __\ \ < < V > )./_._(\ .)/\ < < .- / \_'_) )-.. \ < ./ / > > /._./ /\ < '-' >>/ '-._ < v> _.-' / '-.__.·' \ \/ *** ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] New IRC logs
The map with flashing locations is something :) Don't think that IRC logs are much readable though. On 20.02.2011 21:11, Deano wrote: Hi, The nice man at echelog.matzon.dk, hosts nicely presented IRC logs for various open source projects, I asked him to add OI which he has now done. So for those who either can't hang on IRC all day or just prefer reading at your leisure, there are now links off the wiki at http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/IRC+Chat for both #openindiana and #oi-dev Plus you get to see where in the world we are all chatting from! Also we now have a twitter feed on the website's front page, its linked to #openindiana hashtag, so please twitter about anything related to OI, so others can see how useful it is J Thanks, Deano de...@cloudpixies.com ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] 2 Node ZFS ISCSI failover Cluster with one SAS storage attached
hi, we want to build a two node failover cluster for exporting ZFS Volumes via ISCSI. The nodes are connected both to one 90TB SAS storage. We had success with Solaris 10 and the HA Storage plus Cluster package (3.x), but after Oracle has changed the license with Sol10/U9, we can't use it anymore for free :-( So, does OpenIndiana has everything, what we had under Solaris? Otherwise, can we use other tools, without heavy scripting? I looked also for FreeBSD (x.14) (carp + devd), but the ZFS version is a bit old and there is no ISCSI-Target on board. any suggestions? cu denny ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] New IRC logs
Hi, The nice man at echelog.matzon.dk, hosts nicely presented IRC logs for various open source projects, I asked him to add OI which he has now done. So for those who either can't hang on IRC all day or just prefer reading at your leisure, there are now links off the wiki at http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/IRC+Chat for both #openindiana and #oi-dev Plus you get to see where in the world we are all chatting from! Also we now have a twitter feed on the website's front page, its linked to #openindiana hashtag, so please twitter about anything related to OI, so others can see how useful it is J Thanks, Deano de...@cloudpixies.com ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ECC question
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 9:09 AM, taemun wrote: > Note that ZFS isn't intrinsically any more likely to die from a bad bit in > RAM than any given file system, but it is going to be able to *tell you when > it occurs*. Actually, zfs is far more likely to have problems due to a bad bit. Most file systems blindly pass bad data from disk to the application. ZFS verifies the integrity of what it reads before sending it to the application. It does this by comparing the checksum (cryptographic hash, actually) of a block with the checksum that was stored on disk when the block was written to disk. If it detects corrupt data (via a checksum mismatch) it will look to see if there are other copies of the data and try to self correct. This is great. However, suppose that before writing the data, there was a single bit error in the memory holding the checksum while or after computing the checksum. This will cause an invalid checksum to be written along with the data. Next time this data and checksum are read from disk (e.g. after the next reboot), the checksum will not match the checksum that is computed from the data that is on disk. It will not be able to correct it either. The same problem could occur if there are any errors in the memory holding file data - so long as that corruption happens after the checksum is computed but before the data is sent to disk. -- Mike Gerdts http://mgerdts.blogspot.com/ ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ECC question
ECC RAM provides a mechanism by which the data stored can be checked, and given a small enough error, repaired. Standard RAM doesn't provide this. Buffering is done at the hardware level to increase throughput (gigabytes per second) at the expense of latency (nano seconds per operation). Your choice of motherboard/chipset/cpu will generally dictate if you want ECC FBDIMM's or just ECC DDR3. In the context of ZFS, ECC is a good thing because a bit error in RAM could potentially break a pool - if it occurred just before an important block was written out. Far more likely, is that it could cause a checksum to be computed incorrectly before being written out, which would have the effect of making an unfixable block in the pool. This doesn't really matter, unless you hold every bit to be sacred (which may be true, in some business environments. Note that ZFS isn't intrinsically any more likely to die from a bad bit in RAM than any given file system, but it is going to be able to *tell you when it occurs*. I'd note that AMD's cheap CPUs support ECC, whilst in the Intel camp you need to get something with Xeon written on it as a starting point. Their websites can provide information on which units do and don't, and what type of RAM is appropriate for each CPU. Cheers, On 21 February 2011 01:31, Harry Putnam wrote: > ECC memory or not, buffered or not. What does it do/mean > > At risk of being stoned for bringing this up again, I am not finding > threads from the past that provide (to me) a basic idea of what the > terms means and what the concepts do. > > I'm sure this will sound horribly illiterate in computer tech, but > that is the state of things so here it is: > > First, how does ECC and buffered terms fit together? > > What is the advantage/disadvantage in practical terms > > What does an ignorant end user need to now about this to make sure of > getting the best hardware when building a system dedicated to zfs > server? > > > ___ > OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list > OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post
Am 20.02.2011 15:10, schrieb Harry Putnam: > Good info thank you. Is there not any problem accessing data on > something that size either? No. Not "that size". See mail from Edward Martinez; "info about Solaris and the new 4K-Sector-Disks (e.g. WDxxEARS)"; 2011-02-09 in this mailing list or google for "4k sectors zfs" and "4k sectors bios". Bottom line: Do not use WDxxEARS and do not boot from disk with size greater than 2 TB and you should be fine. HTH, Jo ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] ECC question
ECC memory or not, buffered or not. What does it do/mean At risk of being stoned for bringing this up again, I am not finding threads from the past that provide (to me) a basic idea of what the terms means and what the concepts do. I'm sure this will sound horribly illiterate in computer tech, but that is the state of things so here it is: First, how does ECC and buffered terms fit together? What is the advantage/disadvantage in practical terms What does an ignorant end user need to now about this to make sure of getting the best hardware when building a system dedicated to zfs server? ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post
Johannes Bohse writes: > you do not need to worry about the size. zfs is very efficient in > scrubbing and resilvering. zfs scrubs used sectors only and resilvers > only "missing" transactions. Spare sectors are not involved in both > complexity equations. Good info thank you. Is there not any problem accessing data on something that size either? ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] a company's castoffs another company's treasure
http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3925516/ForgeRock+Shines+on+Suns+Legacy+Identity.htm A.S. -- Apostolos Syropoulos Xanthi, Greece ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] 2 small Qs about Sata controllers
On Feb 20, 2011, at 1:21 AM, Alexander Lesle wrote: > http://kb.lsi.com/KnowledgebaseArticle15591.aspx?Keywords=15591 Per recent experience with one of their SAS HBAs, the 3ware line has suffered in quality since their acquisition by LSI. But the other LSI cards are quite usable as I've put a few in to production with Nexentastor and they can present up to 200+ volumes as single drives which is why I chose them to connect to Promise chassis loaded with a mix of SAS and SATA drives -- the latter of which required a small MUX card at the end of each sled to give it dual port SAS functionality. -Gary ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] xVM in OpenIndiana?
On Feb 19, 2011, at 11:56 PM, Michael Schuster wrote: > Ops Center isn't a replacement for xVM (the hypervisor), but a management > tool. Correct. But there hasn't been any confirmation from Oracle as to whether xVM (or any) source will be available after Solaris 11 releases outside the "Express" series. In the mean time, AFAIK nobody in OI/Illumos have taken ownership of that code to update it. -Gary ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post
Hello Harry, Am 20.02.2011 05:40, schrieb Harry Putnam: > , > | [Aside: the following drives could as well be 2 TB WD green (as the > | 1tb WD black shown below) for an extra $33 per,(total $66), but I was > | not sure if at some point the shear size begins to be a problem by > | itself for things like scrub or resilvering. > | > | Any comments on that would be welcome too.] > ` you do not need to worry about the size. zfs is very efficient in scrubbing and resilvering. zfs scrubs used sectors only and resilvers only "missing" transactions. Spare sectors are not involved in both complexity equations. HTH, Jo ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] 2 small Qs about Sata controllers
Hello Robin Axelsson and List, On Februar, 20 2011, 00:15 wrote in [1]: > On 2011-02-19 19:26, Alexander Lesle wrote: >> Hello Robin Axelsson, >> >> am Samstag, 19. Februar 2011 um 02:14 hat u.a. >> in mid:4d5f197c.4060...@student.chalmers.se geschrieben: >>> I would recommend that you choose a motherboard with more PCIe x16 slots >>> (unless you are absolutely sure that you won't need more in the future). >>> Then you could get an LSI 1068e based SAS/SATA controller (that uses >>> PCIe x8 which fits into a PCIe x16 but not x4 or less) which allows you >>> to connect 8 drives to it. >> I can not confirm that the LSI 1068e HBA runs with this Motherboard >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131655 >> ASUS M4A89TD PRO/USB3 AM3 AMD 890FX >> >> But I can confirm that the new LSI HBA SAS 9211-8i >> http://store.lsi.com/index.cfm?category=17&subcategory=24&productid=LSI00194 >> do _not_ run with this Board. >> LSI support tells me that the Asus PCIe x16 is programmed by BIOS only >> for graphic cards. >> Asus support send me a modified BIOS but the HBA is not running. >> >> I have the same problems with a asrock board. >> >> Now I have bought a Supermicro Board and all rocks fine. >> http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon3000/#1156 >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182212&cm_re=supermicro_x8sil-_-13-182-212-_-Product >> Wow its cheaper than the Asus. >> > Wow, I never heard before that there was such a problem with > motherboards. http://kb.lsi.com/KnowledgebaseArticle15591.aspx?Keywords=15591 > The motherboards I have tried my LSI SAS 3081E-R are > GIgabyte GA-790FXTA-UD5 and MSI 790FX-GD70 and it runs fine on both of > them. I recently got an MSI 890FX-GD70 and although I have not tried I > can't imagine that there would be a problem to fit such a card into one > of its x16 slots. From what you told me it looks like I should stay away > from Asus and ASRock's motherboards (ASUS and ASRock are pretty much the > same company but I guess you already know that). > I hope you give them a hard time on the phone, make them regret that > they have released such a motherboard ;) Thats fine for you. Asus and Asrock are the same company? Ok fine, thats new for me. I have no problems with this company. I told here my experience with this board and this HBA card. -- Best Regards Alexander Februar, 20 2011 [1] mid:4d604f16.50...@student.chalmers.se ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
