Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] For a basic dev environment

2011-03-16 Thread Harry Putnam
"Kevin J. Woolley"  writes:

> On 16 March 2011 16:27, Harry Putnam  wrote:
>
>> When I was running opensolaris 101, up to 133 before switching to oi,
>> there used to be a basic set of pkgs one needed installed to have a basic
>> developmental environment.  I mean just enough to do basic compile
>> from source of gnus pkgs and the like.
>>
>> Is that still true with oi?  If so can anyone say what the pkg[s] are?
>
> ss-dev will give you a SunStudio-based environment with the Sun
> compilers.  gcc-dev should give you a GCC 3.4-based environment, IIRC.

Thanks,

Running pkg search -l gcc-dev
I see:
  INDEX   ACTION VALUEPACKAGE
  incorporate depend gcc-dev@0.5.11-0.133 \
pkg:/consolidation/sfw/sfw-incorporation@0.5.11-0.147

----   ---=---   -  
Then running:

# pkg search sfw-incorporation

  INDEX  ACTION VALUE  PACKAGE
  pkg.fmri   set   openindiana.org/consolidation/sfw/sfw-incorporation \
  pkg:/consolidation/sfw/sfw-incorporation@0.5.11-0.147
----   ---=---   -   

I haven't run into this kind of output before...
man pkg shows quite a few hits on incorporated... but after browsing
thru them, I still didn't get what it meant in the above ouput.

I mean in so far as how to get the pkgs installed. Or what they are
called now...


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] For a basic dev environment

2011-03-16 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On 16 March 2011 16:27, Harry Putnam  wrote:

> When I was running opensolaris 101, up to 133 before switching to oi,
> there used to be a basic set of pkgs one needed installed to have a basic
> developmental environment.  I mean just enough to do basic compile
> from source of gnus pkgs and the like.
>
> Is that still true with oi?  If so can anyone say what the pkg[s] are?

ss-dev will give you a SunStudio-based environment with the Sun
compilers.  gcc-dev should give you a GCC 3.4-based environment, IIRC.

Cheers,

kjw

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Explain the Goal of oi

2011-03-16 Thread Harry Putnam
Christopher Chan  writes:

> On Thursday, March 17, 2011 06:54 AM, Harry Putnam wrote:
>> Apostolos Syropoulos  writes:
>>
>>> Yes I am very very serious! A serious person would had first read the
>>> wikepedia article
>>
>> You might want to ease up a bit, on that very very part you do
>> know there are health risks  right?
>>
>
> What risks? Bulging arteries? Seizures? What?
>
> Conversely, there is the risk of being put on the bitbucket list...

Seeking to avoid the bitbucket.., there'll be no more quibbling from me.


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[OpenIndiana-discuss] For a basic dev environment

2011-03-16 Thread Harry Putnam
When I was running opensolaris 101, up to 133 before switching to oi,
there used to be a basic set of pkgs one needed installed to have a basic
developmental environment.  I mean just enough to do basic compile
from source of gnus pkgs and the like.

Is that still true with oi?  If so can anyone say what the pkg[s] are?


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Explain the Goal of oi

2011-03-16 Thread Christopher Chan

On Thursday, March 17, 2011 06:54 AM, Harry Putnam wrote:

Apostolos Syropoulos  writes:


Yes I am very very serious! A serious person would had first read the
wikepedia article


You might want to ease up a bit, on that very very part you do
know there are health risks  right?



What risks? Bulging arteries? Seizures? What?

Conversely, there is the risk of being put on the bitbucket list...

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[OpenIndiana-discuss] Virtual Desktop

2011-03-16 Thread David
Hi,

Does OpenIndiana offer something analogous to the Oracle Virtual
Desktop Infrastructure solution?

I'm not familiar with Oracle VDI, so perhaps this is a nonsensical question.

(I'm assuming it's something like a Terminal Server on steroids.)

Thank you

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Proxy for auto-updates?

2011-03-16 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On 16 March 2011 15:43, David  wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Kevin J. Woolley  wrote:
>> In oi_147 you could fix this by doing a 'su -', giving the password
>> you used during the installation, and resetting the password when
>> prompted (because root's password was expired).  I'm not sure if
>> that's the case in 148 or 148a.  Might be worth a shot, though.
>
> That does work.  Seems a fix should be put in place, though.
>
> Is there a way to file a bug for this?

I *think* there's one filed already.  I don't know the bug tracker URL
off the top of my head, but it should be findable on
http://wiki.openindiana.org/.

Cheers,

kjw

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Explain the Goal of oi

2011-03-16 Thread Harry Putnam
Apostolos Syropoulos  writes:

> Yes I am very very serious! A serious person would had first read the
> wikepedia article

You might want to ease up a bit, on that very very part you do
know there are health risks  right?


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] How to index all files on a oi system

2011-03-16 Thread Harry Putnam
Matt Connolly  writes:

> Perhaps you might be interested in installing the "locate" command from gnu
> findutils:
>
> http://www.gnu.org/software/findutils/
>
> It's installed by default on Mac OSX systems, and is really handy. There's
> probably some very good security reasons that it's not installed by default
> on OpenIndiana.

Thanks Matt

Yikes, I forgot all about locate.  I never have got onto using it, and
always went with some incantation of find.  Seems like several times I
tried it and the db was not up to date and so first had to update
that... even with some cron run update scheme, etc etc... so never
really bothered with it.

But for what I want right now... it would be just the ticket, I
think. 

It does not appear to be available as a pkg on oi 147 with
publisher set like this:

PUBLISHER TYPE STATUS   URI
openindiana.org (pref) origin   online   http://pkg.openindiana.org/dev/
opensolaris.orgorigin   online   http://pkg.openindiana.org/legacy/

Did you mean to compile it from source?




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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Proxy for auto-updates?

2011-03-16 Thread David
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Kevin J. Woolley  wrote:
> On 16 March 2011 15:26, David  wrote:
>
>> 1) I can't even launch these applications of a fresh install, since
>> the GUI is prompting me for a root password, but no root password is
>> created during the install process.  This appears to be true for many
>> admin applets.  (Plus, I would have assumed it would use "gksudo" or
>> some equivalent, but it does not.)
>
> In oi_147 you could fix this by doing a 'su -', giving the password
> you used during the installation, and resetting the password when
> prompted (because root's password was expired).  I'm not sure if
> that's the case in 148 or 148a.  Might be worth a shot, though.
>
>


That does work.  Seems a fix should be put in place, though.

Is there a way to file a bug for this?

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Proxy for auto-updates?

2011-03-16 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On 16 March 2011 15:26, David  wrote:

> 1) I can't even launch these applications of a fresh install, since
> the GUI is prompting me for a root password, but no root password is
> created during the install process.  This appears to be true for many
> admin applets.  (Plus, I would have assumed it would use "gksudo" or
> some equivalent, but it does not.)

In oi_147 you could fix this by doing a 'su -', giving the password
you used during the installation, and resetting the password when
prompted (because root's password was expired).  I'm not sure if
that's the case in 148 or 148a.  Might be worth a shot, though.

Cheers,

kjw

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Explain the Goal of oi

2011-03-16 Thread Harry Putnam
"Kevin J. Woolley"  writes:

>> This list always so friendly and encouraging...
>> :D
>
> Really?  I think it does pretty darn well.  I won't try to convince you, 
> though.

As OP, I agree.  I also agree that I should have kept my yap shut when
the sniper came in.  All input was quite useful.

Thank you all again


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Proxy for auto-updates?

2011-03-16 Thread David
>> > Totally new to Solaris  Thought I'd try Open Indiana live DVD inside
>> a VM.
>> >
>> > Question:  How do I configure the package manger/updater to use an http
>> proxy?
>>
>> The package manager may be something of a moving target -- I don't
>> have a http proxy to test on, but the instructions here aren't too
>> outdated, so may work:
>>
>> http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=59229
>>

Per the other thread, I did try:

export http_proxy=http://proxy.name:port
sudo /usr/bin/packagemanager

But, it still does not work.

I finally tried:
sudo bash -c "export http_proxy=http://proxy.name:port; /usr/bin/packagemanager"

That did work.

Anyway, as a new user, I found a couple of issues:

1) I can't even launch these applications of a fresh install, since
the GUI is prompting me for a root password, but no root password is
created during the install process.  This appears to be true for many
admin applets.  (Plus, I would have assumed it would use "gksudo" or
some equivalent, but it does not.)

2) There should be a functional, and obvious, "cancel" button in both
those apps while they block on network activity.

3) Since these are among the first applications run on a fresh system,
a shortcut to the Network settings applet in the menus and "waiting on
network" state would be nice.

Thank you

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[OpenIndiana-discuss] bug reports

2011-03-16 Thread Reginald Beardsley
I've just switched to using OI for my internet access, so I'll be testing it a 
bit ;-)

Three items:

The "Report a bug"option in the OpenIndiana pulldown in Firefox doesn't take 
you to a report form.  In fact I couldn't find one anywhere.

The default installed system is starting 2 volume managers, rmvolmgr and  
gvfs-hal-volume-monitor  though I couldn't find any documentation.  With both 
volume managers running, once a device is mounted, it can't be unmounted.   I 
turned off rmvolmgr, but I'd like to turn off gvfs-hal-volume-monitor also.

rmvolmger is managed by sfm, but gvfs-hal-volume-monitor doesn't appear to be.  
Something starts it, but I can find nothing under /etc or  /lib/svc that 
references it. 

The use of privilege escalation from the user account using sudo(1m) or similar 
seems to me a bad idea.  It seems too easy to exploit.  The browsers have so 
many vulnerabilities, that I won't run a browser as root.  It seems to me that 
having a separate root account is much preferable to sudo for machines which 
have internet access.   But then I just disconnected my LAN and installed a 
dedicated system for internet access.

Have Fun!
Reg


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[OpenIndiana-discuss] Problems with limiting access to Xvnc on OpenIndiana

2011-03-16 Thread Hillel Lubman
Hi.

I'm trying to set up Xvnc server on OpenIndiana oi_148 machine to access it
remotely, and I want to limit access to ssh, to enforce secured connections.

I managed to enable the service, and set properties for it as follows:

inetadm -m svc:/application/x11/xvnc-inetd:default exec="/usr/X11/bin/Xvnc
-inetd -query localhost passwordFile=${HOME}/.vnc/passwd -geometry
1680x1050x24 -localhost"

And restarted the service:

svcadm restart xvnc-inetd

-localhost option is supposed to limit incoming connection to localhost only
(thus limiting it to ssh for example). But even with that, Xvnc accept
unencrypted (non ssh) connections from the remote machine. What am I setting
wrong?

Thanks,

Hillel.
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[OpenIndiana-discuss] SMFGUI

2011-03-16 Thread Andrey Sokolov
Is it possible to place SMFGUI into OI repository?
http://sourceforge.net/projects/smfgui/files/smfgui_0.9.5.1_src.tar.bz2/download
There is binary executable compiled for OpenSolaris 2009.06 in the archive.
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Explain the Goal of oi

2011-03-16 Thread Apostolos Syropoulos
> >> I've been seeing little snippets of subjects and the like that seem 
> to
> >> indicate that oi is merging with Illumini (no sure what that is called
> >> by full name).
> >  
> > The least I would expect from people to do is a basic google search
> > before posting. 
> 
> Is this guy serious or just one of those guys that always says
> something like this.


Yes I am very very serious! A serious person would had first read the
wikepedia article


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illumos

and provided he still had questions he would post a question about

Illumini! You posted a question as if the readers of this  forum are 

your personal tutors! No this forum, and many other forums like this
one, are places to exchange ideas, to share expreriences, to ask 

serious questions and not to ask stupid questions! Enough!


A.S.

 
--
Apostolos Syropoulos
Xanthi, Greece



  

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