Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installation on HD = 2TB
On 2013-01-31 12:47, Mirko Fluher wrote: I recently tried .. to install OI 151a7 live on the following computer; cpu i7 mboard: gigabyte B75M-D3H HD: Segate SATA3 2TB with plenty of ram ... it simply wouldn't install ... it cannot see the partition .. yet on that HD I run linux Ubuntu Centos and have plenty of spare room. I then decided to use an old 250G SATA2 HD ... and no problems - same settings in the Motherboard. I'd take it, you also used the same SATA port for both drives, so that missing driver can be ruled out? My main guess would be that your other OSes mapped the disk as GPT and OI (older GRUB in particular, as well as installer and rpool support) are not yet compatible with it for a boot device (it's ok for storage pools). GPT involves a legacy MBR partition that addresses your whole disk and blocks non-GPT systems from using it and messing up. There are hacks to add either GPT support to legacy GRUB, or add an alternate MBR partition table to address the same sector ranges as GPT and thus fool an older OS into working with the disk, but these are tricks at the experimenter's risk. Alternately, you can wait for GRUB2 integration and related fixes to installer and rpool routines - or better yet, help it happen! ;) I told the installation program to use the entire HD. (snip) attached is a a dump of the output of 'gparted' as it is provided by the system. It complains about mount point ... but I assume there is a problem with gparted... I believe this problem is indeed in gparted. Seems like it was taken from a Linux/other OS source and used as is - with little integration to Solaris/ZFS realities. I'd guess it looks for the device node name in /etc/vfstab (if it's even smart enough to not use /etc/fstab as it would in many other OSes), and unable to find that match - complains. I'd say it is a cosmetical annoyance however ;) //Jim ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installation on HD = 2TB
If you're not absolutely clear on how the partition table in the first sector on disk (aka fdisk or MBR partition) works, be very careful. You can easily trash the other installs. You're asking for an entry there to point to a Solaris partition table. I'm not current on what's going on w/ the various disk label schemes, but mostly because I avoid needing to know. That's likely to change shortly. What model disk? I'm about to do battle w/ installing OI_151a7 on 4k sector 2 TB Seagate disks in an HP N40L. You can't boot OI from disks over 2 TB as they require an EFI label. Solaris 11.1 is reported to have fixed the problem, but even the Oracle doc's have not caught up to the change. I can see the disks w/ format, but have not yet attempted to install. I ran a surface analysis first since I'm building a file server w/ 3 disks. Surface analysis on a 2 TB disk takes about 12 hours to run. Did you run format(1m) manually? I don't know what the current situation is, but years ago I installed FreeBSD, Linux Solaris on the same disk. It took probably a dozen install attempts to figure out. Ultimately I had to alter the fdisk partition type ID, install the next OS, and then change it back. There was also a particular order of install required because one of the installers was actively hostile to the others. I don't recall which though. IIRC (it was 10+ years ago) the main issue was Linux swap used the same fdisk partition ID as Solaris. After that I switched to using removable drive caddies. My current recommendation for laptops is to install to USB drives, but the 4k sector problem is making that difficult. But for a desktop system, the caddies are the way to go. Have Fun! Reg . --- On Thu, 1/31/13, Mirko Fluher m...@pax.apana.org.au wrote: From: Mirko Fluher m...@pax.apana.org.au Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installation on HD = 2TB To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Date: Thursday, January 31, 2013, 5:47 AM I recently tried .. to install OI 151a7 live on the following computer; cpu i7 mboard: gigabyte B75M-D3H HD: Segate SATA3 2TB with plenty of ram ... it simply wouldn't install ... it cannot see the partition .. yet on that HD I run linux Ubuntu Centos and have plenty of spare room. I then decided to use an old 250G SATA2 HD ... and no problems - same settings in the Motherboard. I told the installation program to use the entire HD. mir@bigpax:~$ df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on rpool/ROOT/openindiana 196G 2.9G 193G 2% / swap 42G 404K 42G 1% /etc/svc/volatile /usr/lib/libc/libc_hwcap1.so.1 196G 2.9G 193G 2% /lib/libc.so.1 swap 42G 48K 42G 1% /tmp swap 42G 68K 42G 1% /var/run rpool/export 193G 32K 193G 1% /export rpool/export/home 193G 32K 193G 1% /export/home rpool/export/home/mir 193G 81M 193G 1% /export/home/mir rpool 193G 45K 193G 1% /rpool /export/home/mir 193G 81M 193G 1% /home/mir mir@bigpax:~$ attached is a a dump of the output of 'gparted' as it is provided by the system. It complains about mount point ... but I assume there is a problem with gparted... If anyone is running the above system on a 2TB HD, I would be curious to know how you did it ... ?? Cheers, -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installation on HD = 2TB
On 01/31/13 11:02 PM, Jim Klimov wrote: On 2013-01-31 12:47, Mirko Fluher wrote: I recently tried .. to install OI 151a7 live on the following computer; cpu i7 mboard: gigabyte B75M-D3H HD: Segate SATA3 2TB with plenty of ram ... it simply wouldn't install ... it cannot see the partition .. yet on that HD I run linux Ubuntu Centos and have plenty of spare room. I then decided to use an old 250G SATA2 HD ... and no problems - same settings in the Motherboard. I'd take it, you also used the same SATA port for both drives, so that missing driver can be ruled out? same config. same hardware ... just different HD ... old 250g used to have a linux system on it. My main guess would be that your other OSes mapped the disk as GPT and OI (older GRUB in particular, as well as installer and rpool support) are not yet compatible with it for a boot device (it's ok for storage pools). GPT involves a legacy MBR partition that addresses your whole disk and blocks non-GPT systems from using it and messing up. There are hacks to add either GPT support to legacy GRUB, or add an alternate MBR partition table to address the same sector ranges as GPT and thus fool an older OS into working with the disk, but these are tricks at the experimenter's risk. Alternately, you can wait for GRUB2 integration and related fixes to installer and rpool routines - or better yet, help it happen! ;) I wish ... :) I told the installation program to use the entire HD. (snip) attached is a a dump of the output of 'gparted' as it is provided by the system. It complains about mount point ... but I assume there is a problem with gparted... I believe this problem is indeed in gparted. Seems like it was taken from a Linux/other OS source and used as is - with little integration to Solaris/ZFS realities. I'd guess it looks for the device node name in /etc/vfstab (if it's even smart enough to not use /etc/fstab as it would in many other OSes), and unable to find that match - complains. I'd say it is a cosmetical annoyance however ;) //Jim Thank you for the reply Jim. I'll just have to wait a little bit longer... Cheers, ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installation on HD = 2TB
On 2013-01-31 13:27, Reginald Beardsley wrote: You can't boot OI from disks over 2 TB as they require an EFI label. I believe this is not technically precise. If you label a 3Tb disk with MBR, I think you can boot - but forfeit the extra terabyte of data. In some future case this might be acceptable - i.e. when a dirt-cheap replacement disk which is larger than your old one comes and is to be just plugged into a degraded pool. So you lose 1/3... well... it is cheap (i.e. in a year-two from now). //Jim ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installation on HD = 2TB
On 01/31/13 11:27 PM, Reginald Beardsley wrote: What model disk? Seagate 2TB SATA3 I'm about to do battle w/ installing OI_151a7 on 4k sector 2 TB Seagate disks in an HP N40L. You can't boot OI from disks over 2 TB as they require an EFI label. Solaris 11.1 is reported to have fixed the problem, but even the Oracle doc's have not caught up to the change. I can see the disks w/ format, but have not yet attempted to install. I ran a surface analysis first since I'm building a file server w/ 3 disks. Surface analysis on a 2 TB disk takes about 12 hours to run. Did you run format(1m) manually? I just used the LiveDVD 'oi-dev-151a7-live' ... and it just told me it couldn't see the HD. I don't know what the current situation is, but years ago I installed FreeBSD, Linux Solaris on the same disk. It took probably a dozen install attempts to figure out. Ultimately I had to alter the fdisk partition type ID, install the next OS, and then change it back. There was also a particular order of install required because one of the installers was actively hostile to the others. I don't recall which though. IIRC (it was 10+ years ago) the main issue was Linux swap used the same fdisk partition ID as Solaris. After that I switched to using removable drive caddies. My current recommendation for laptops is to install to USB drives, but the 4k sector problem is making that difficult. But for a desktop system, the caddies are the way to go. this is basically what I am doing at the moment ... and until OI can see my 2TB and partitions ... so at the moment is OI on a good old 250g :) Cheers, ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installation on HD = 2TB
On 02/ 1/13 12:12 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (openindiana) wrote: From: Mirko Fluher [mailto:m...@pax.apana.org.au] it simply wouldn't install ... it cannot see the partition .. yet on that HD I run linux Ubuntu Centos and have plenty of spare room. Are you trying to dual/triple boot the system? I would assume such a thing is possible, but probably very tricky, and probably very risky for trashing the other systems. Hopefully you can avoid doing that. Why not run OI as a host os, and then run the centos/ubuntu as guest OSes? (For example, VirtualBox) I CANNOT install OI on my 2TB Sata3 HD ... the liveDVD simply cannot see the HD ... :) All I can do at the moment is use OI on a smaller .. old 250G HD Cheers, ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installation on HD = 2TB
Yes. I was still waking up. --- On Thu, 1/31/13, Jim Klimov jimkli...@cos.ru wrote: From: Jim Klimov jimkli...@cos.ru Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installation on HD = 2TB To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Date: Thursday, January 31, 2013, 6:34 AM On 2013-01-31 13:27, Reginald Beardsley wrote: You can't boot OI from disks over 2 TB as they require an EFI label. I believe this is not technically precise. If you label a 3Tb disk with MBR, I think you can boot - but forfeit the extra terabyte of data. In some future case this might be acceptable - i.e. when a dirt-cheap replacement disk which is larger than your old one comes and is to be just plugged into a degraded pool. So you lose 1/3... well... it is cheap (i.e. in a year-two from now). //Jim ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installation on HD = 2TB
On 2013-01-31 14:12, Edward Ned Harvey (openindiana) wrote: From: Mirko Fluher [mailto:m...@pax.apana.org.au] it simply wouldn't install ... it cannot see the partition .. yet on that HD I run linux Ubuntu Centos and have plenty of spare room. Are you trying to dual/triple boot the system? I would assume such a thing is possible, but probably very tricky, and probably very risky for trashing the other systems. Hopefully you can avoid doing that. Why not run OI as a host os, and then run the centos/ubuntu as guest OSes? (For example, VirtualBox) This is possible (to multi-boot) - I have done that with few hiccups on a laptop with OI, Fedora, and for a while Win7 - all involving their own bootloaders. However, as for reasoning - I'd state poor hardware driver support in OI (i.e. the said laptop could not natively use USB3, WiFi, and powersave-sleeping; glitchy sound - both mic and play; multimedia playback)... At times when these were needed, there was little choice but to boot into another OS and use VirtualBox to boot OI as needed from the raw partition as a VM. And even that was unwieldy, with OI's pickiness about rpool storage device changes. //Jim ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installation on HD = 2TB
On 31/01/2013 14:29, Mirko Fluher wrote: On 02/ 1/13 12:12 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (openindiana) wrote: From: Mirko Fluher [mailto:m...@pax.apana.org.au] it simply wouldn't install ... it cannot see the partition .. yet on that HD I run linux Ubuntu Centos and have plenty of spare room. Are you trying to dual/triple boot the system? I would assume such a thing is possible, but probably very tricky, and probably very risky for trashing the other systems. Hopefully you can avoid doing that. Why not run OI as a host os, and then run the centos/ubuntu as guest OSes? (For example, VirtualBox) I CANNOT install OI on my 2TB Sata3 HD ... the liveDVD simply cannot see the HD ... :) Be precise, the message was that the disk is too large for the live system, which is the real mystery, since that is a 2 TB disk, which should be handled even by a 32 bit system. -- Dr.Udo GrabowskiInst.f.Meteorology a.Climate Research IMK-ASF-SAT www.imk-asf.kit.edu/english/sat.php KIT - Karlsruhe Institute of Technologyhttp://www.kit.edu Postfach 3640,76021 Karlsruhe,Germany T:(+49)721 608-26026 F:-926026 ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] OI_151a7 install grumble
I tried to use the LiveCD installer to install on a 2 TB Seagate ST2000DM001 in an N40L. This is intended to be a headless server, but I'd like to have multiple terminal windows when I configure or need to do other work on the system. I'd run format(1m) and put an SMI label on the drive w/ s0 S1 defined as I want them: s0 128 GB for rpool S1 1.69 TB for RAIDZ pool The installer rather unhelpfully refused to allow me to select s0 and insisted on clobbering the label. So I switched to the text installer disk. That let me do what I wanted, but doesn't provide an Xserver and other things I'd like to have there I'm not trying to do anything complex, so it boggles my mind that the GUI installer doesn't see the label and at least offer to let me use it. I can understand why the text installer doesn't include X. So far as I can tell, my choices are either a full manual install along the lines of Jim Klimov's instructions or doing a GUI install to another disk and then migrating everything to where I want it. Both options seem rather ridiculously cumbersome for what I want to do. Is there something simpler that I've missed? Thanks, Reg ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI_151a7 install grumble
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Reginald Beardsley pulask...@yahoo.com wrote: I tried to use the LiveCD installer to install on a 2 TB Seagate ST2000DM001 in an N40L. This is intended to be a headless server, but I'd like to have multiple terminal windows when I configure or need to do other work on the system. [...] So I switched to the text installer disk. That let me do what I wanted, but doesn't provide an Xserver and other things I'd like to have there [...] Both options seem rather ridiculously cumbersome for what I want to do. Is there something simpler that I've missed? After installing via text or the GUI, the software repositories are the same. Nothing is stopping you from installing whatever graphical applications you need onto the text install. I'm not sure if this mailing list accepts attachments, but I've tried to attach a diff I ran a few versions ago of the packages included in the text and GUI installs. It will help you decide which GUI packages you need to add to your text install to do what you need. I would imagine installing terminal/gnome-terminal would pull in all other dependencies you need. Cheers, Jan 5,8d4 audio/audio-utilities 0.5.11-0.151.1 installed - benchmark/bonnieplus 1.3.3-0.151.1 installed - benchmark/filebench 0.5.11-0.151.1 installed - benchmark/iperf 2.0.4-0.151.1 installed - 10,16d5 codec/flac0.5.11-0.151.1 installed - codec/libtheora 0.5.11-0.151.1 installed - codec/ogg-vorbis 0.5.11-0.151.1 installed - codec/speex 0.5.11-0.151.1 installed - communication/im/pidgin 0.5.11-0.151.1 installed - communication/pda/gnome-pilot 0.5.11-0.151.1 installed - communication/pda/pilot-link 0.5.11-0.151.1 installed - 50d38 crypto/gnupg 2.0.13-0.151.1 installed - 53,68d40 desktop/administration/gnome-system-tools 0.5.11-0.151.1 installed - desktop/administration/gparted0.4.5-0.151.1 installed - desktop/administration/nwam-manager 0.5.11-0.151.1 installed - desktop/archive-manager/file-roller 0.5.11-0.151.1 installed - desktop/calculator/gcalctool 0.5.11-0.151.1 installed - desktop/cd-burning/brasero0.5.11-0.151.1 installed - desktop/cd-ripping/sound-juicer 0.5.11-0.151.1 installed - desktop/character-map/gucharmap 0.5.11-0.151.1 installed - desktop/compiz0.5.11-0.151.1 installed - desktop/compiz/ccsm 0.5.11-0.151.1 installed - desktop/compiz/library/compizconfig-gconf 0.5.11-0.151.1 installed - desktop/compiz/library/libcompizconfig0.5.11-0.151.1 installed - desktop/compiz/plugin/compiz-fusion-extra 0.5.11-0.151.1 installed - desktop/compiz/plugin/compiz-fusion-main 0.5.11-0.151.1 installed - desktop/gksu 0.5.11-0.151.1 installed - desktop/pdf-viewer/evince 0.5.11-0.151.1 installed - 70,71d41 desktop/system-monitor/gnome-system-monitor 0.5.11-0.151.1 installed - desktop/time-slider 0.2.97-0.151.1 installed - 73,79d42 desktop/xdg/menu-editor/alacarte 0.5.11-0.151.1 installed - desktop/xdg/xdg-user-dirs-gtk 0.5.11-0.151.1 installed - desktop/xdg/xdg-utils 0.5.11-0.151.1 installed - desktop/xscreensaver 5.11-0.151.1installed - developer/build/autoconf 2.63-0.151.1installed - developer/build/automake-110 1.10-0.151.1installed - developer/build/automake-19 1.9.6-0.151.1 installed - 81d43 developer/build/libtool 1.5.22-0.151.1 installed - 83d44 developer/debug/gdb 6.8-0.151.1 installed - 90,95d50 developer/gcc-3 3.4.3-0.151.1 installed - developer/gnome/gnome-doc-utils 0.5.11-0.151.1 installed - developer/gnu 0.5.11-0.151.1 installed - developer/gnu-binutils2.19-0.151.1installed - developer/lexer/flex 2.5.35-0.151.1 installed - developer/library/lint0.5.11-0.151.1 installed - 98d52 developer/macro/gnu-m41.4.12-0.151.1 installed - 100,104d53 developer/parser/bison2.3-0.151.1
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI_151a7 install grumble
Jan, Thanks. I don't want to connect to the Internet w/ the system, so adding packages requires cloning the repository. I'll probably have to do that eventually, but for now I'm going to try installing to one of the disks w/ the LiveCD and then migrating the BE to a proper size pool and clobbering the pool created by the installer. I'm going to try tricking it by forming a mirror w/ a 128 GB slice, detaching the oversize slice, relabeling and then reforming the mirror. May not work, but it's worth a try. It would all be simple if the installer would allow using existing labels and pools. Just run the shell to set things up and then start the installer. Sigh... Reg ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] new SXCE distribution now available
Hi, Martin Bochnig has developed a new Solaris distribution called SXCE. It's available at http://www.opensxce.org My involvement in this project is simply to provide a distribution mechanism for Martins work. So, all the credit for this work belongs to Martin and all the complaints related to the quick and dirty opensxce.org website should be sent to me at al at logical dot approach dot com. Regards, -- Al Hopper ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Hi Al: OpenSXCE upload completed 1 minute ago
On 01/31/2013 07:59 PM, Stefan Müller-Wilken wrote: Hi there, They are two different animals. Below is what he posted to this list on December 17. I'm trying to save him some trouble here, since he's not living in very good conditions. I hadn't originally noticed this extensive list, though I was aware that he was working on something. Big Kudos to Martin for this work, it appears to have been a herculean effort, and to think that he did this alone while living on a shoestring budget just boggles the mind. But with that in mind, wouldn't it be even more appropriate to align the effort with OpenIndiana to form its Sparc edition? That would free Martin from having to spend time on dist packaging while bringing OpenIndiana closer to providing one-stop distribution. I mean, it is absolutely his project and he can do whatever he pleases, but wouldn't that help him, too? It depends. OI is (AFAIK) strictly based on OpenSolaris' vision, which has IPS at its core with a hybrid Solaris/GNU userland (where appropriate), and therefore is close to Oracle Solaris 11. As far as I understand it, Martin based OpenSXCE's vision on Solaris Express Community Edition which used SVR4 packaging and traditional Solaris userland. That being said, I haven't actually installed OpenSXCE yet (though I plan to give it a go in the very near future). As for the endless packaging discussion: I will use whatever gets the job done, be it SVR4 or IPS packaging. Both have their strengths and weaknesses and I can appreciate both to some extent. I like OI's modern design, and OpenSXCE's solid Solaris tradition. Therefore, it will be up to Martin and the OI dev community to determine how much of the effort can be shared. Naturally, we should strive as a community to do things as efficiently as possible and avoid re-inventing the wheel. Cheers, -- Saso ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] new SXCE distribution now available
Thank you Al, Good to see you posting again. Jerry Kemp On 01/31/13 01:29 PM, Al Hopper wrote: Hi, Martin Bochnig has developed a new Solaris distribution called SXCE. It's available at http://www.opensxce.org My involvement in this project is simply to provide a distribution mechanism for Martins work. So, all the credit for this work belongs to Martin and all the complaints related to the quick and dirty opensxce.org website should be sent to me at al at logical dot approach dot com. Regards, ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Hi Al: OpenSXCE upload completed 1 minute ago
On 2013-01-31 19:59, Stefan Müller-Wilken wrote: Hi there, They are two different animals. Below is what he posted to this list on December 17. I'm trying to save him some trouble here, since he's not living in very good conditions. I hadn't originally noticed this extensive list, though I was aware that he was working on something. Big Kudos to Martin for this work, it appears to have been a herculean effort, and to think that he did this alone while living on a shoestring budget just boggles the mind. But with that in mind, wouldn't it be even more appropriate to align the effort with OpenIndiana to form its Sparc edition? That would free Martin from having to spend time on dist packaging while bringing OpenIndiana closer to providing one-stop distribution. I mean, it is absolutely his project and he can do whatever he pleases, but wouldn't that help him, too? I believe, Martin's work is more aligned with the large installed base of Solaris 10 and OpenSolaris SXCE systems, ultimately providing them with a relatively straightforward upgrade path to updated kernel and software. This is different from OpenIndiana or Solaris 11, migration to which from an SVR4-based system is far from a simple upgrade, just a bit better than migration to a different OS than Solaris altogether. However, given that we didn't have OI-SPARC and Martin's work based on illumos now provides one, I hope that the opensource collaboration can use his work and make OI-SPARC. Perhaps, the SVR4 and IPS releases can ultimately be built from the same source with just a different switch passed to the build script, so that adepts of the two packaging systems can all have the modern OS updated regularly... And I do really hope that despite the concerns raised by Garrett (quite valid, indeed) the illumos-related projects would soon have enough of the committed onlined resources to build and test the SPARC releases. And, perhaps, that there would also be modern hardware teamed with the illumos-based efforts. After all, SPARC is a rare non-proprietary CPU architecture which anyone is allowed to (and some do) implement. //Jim ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Fwd: OpenSXCE on SF440 (missing network driver)
Hello! I have successfully installed OpenSXCE on my (headless) SunFireV440 but I'm missing drivers for network card(s). Digging with prtconf (and friends) I found out it is: pci bus 0x cardnum 0x01 function 0x00: vendor 0x108e device 0xabba Oracle/SUN Cassini 10/100/1000 and the driver is not installed on system. What can be done to get that card working? Best Regards Andrej ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI_151a7 install grumble
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 08:28:09PM +0100, Jim Klimov wrote: On 2013-01-31 18:25, Reginald Beardsley wrote: I'm going to try tricking it by forming a mirror w/ a 128 GB slice, detaching the oversize slice, relabeling and then reforming the mirror. May not work, but it's worth a try. I'm not sure I get your idea right... if you plan on creating a 2Tb rpool, then adding 128Gb as a mirror, and then detach 2Tb, I guess creation of the mirror will fail and the plan won't work. What am I missing? ;) If you create an fdisk partition on that disk, the GUI installer should notice it and offer to install illumos on that fdisk partition, leaving the rest of the disk untouched. -- -Gary Mills--refurb--Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada- ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI_151a7 install grumble
After beating my head against the wall for almost 8 hours I finally gave up and installed Solaris 10 U8. Clunky installer, but it did what I wanted w/o any fuss on the first try. Wish I'd quit fighting sooner. Results: 119 GB 3-way mirrored rpool in s0 3.32 TB 3 disk RAIDZ1 dpool in s1 3x2 TB Seagate ST2DM001 disks configured w/ 2 slices per disk using an SMI label. These are 4k sector disks. I'm going to be cautious, but they seem to work OK. dd of 64 GB from /dev/zero clocked at ~147 MB/s on a stock N40L w/ 2 GB of DRAM. Reg ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI_151a7 install grumble
On 2013-01-31 23:21, Reginald Beardsley wrote: After beating my head against the wall for almost 8 hours I finally gave up and installed Solaris 10 U8. Clunky installer, but it did what I wanted w/o any fuss on the first try. Wish I'd quit fighting sooner. I'm rather sad to hear this, hoped I could help by remote advice... Possibly, now that you have a workable disk layout, you could make another installation (of OI on another disk) and zfs send|zfs recv it into the rpool created by Sol10? ;) Then again, as you said - you'd rather do science than sysadmin work, so good luck to you in reaching your ultimate goals. And a flashing red bulb to OI developers - or wannabes ready to help - that the current installer is lacking some stuff... Anyhow, good luck! //Jim Klimov ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE.org Status update: Repo-Upload at letter 't'
On 01/30/2013 01:09 PM, Paul Gress wrote: SWEET Dragging out the blade1000 again!!! I can set my Blade 2500 up again. I've got some V490s set aside for this, and a T2000 on the way...VERY happy about the prospect of not being chained to Oracle for that hardware! -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installation on HD = 2TB
To at least summarize your problem, without all the distracting irrelevant details and tangents of the OP and this thread in general... Even if I don't have an answer for you ... When you boot the OI installer DVD, with a 2TB drive attached, OI simply cannot see the disk. When you boot the same system, with a 250G disk attached, OI installs just fine. So at least this confirms OI can use the SATA controller (or whatever). It suggests that the problem is the system can't handle drive of 2TB size... However, you can install (what did you say, centos and ubuntu?) some other OS onto the 2TB drive, just fine. So what gives? Is it a driver problem, a hardware compatibility problem, or what? And can anything be done about it? My only suggestion is to check the drive mode. I would guess you want AHCI, and I would guess it already is in AHCI mode, so I'm guessing this suggestion is no help. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI_151a7 install grumble
--- On Thu, 1/31/13, Jim Klimov j...@cos.ru wrote: From: Jim Klimov j...@cos.ru Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI_151a7 install grumble To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Date: Thursday, January 31, 2013, 4:49 PM On 2013-01-31 23:21, Reginald Beardsley wrote: After beating my head against the wall for almost 8 hours I finally gave up and installed Solaris 10 U8. Clunky installer, but it did what I wanted w/o any fuss on the first try. Wish I'd quit fighting sooner. I'm rather sad to hear this, hoped I could help by remote advice... Possibly, now that you have a workable disk layout, you could make another installation (of OI on another disk) and zfs send|zfs recv it into the rpool created by Sol10? ;) This raises a good question. Can one send/recv between instances running different versions of zfs? I'm guessing that one would not be able to send a filesystem from OI_151a7 to Solaris 10 U8. This may have profound implications for how I manage my infrastructure. There was a rather murky conversation a while back about sending snapshots and storing them as files on the remote host which some criticized. However, if one were storing backups from Solaris 10 on OI, I'm thinking you'd have to do it that way or you wouldn't be able to restore. I'm still agog at how much time I wasted on this. The Solaris 10 interactive installer apparently has the same problem. But at least the menu warns you to use the text installer if you want ZFS root. Perhaps someone could add an option on the LiveCD to use the text installer if the user wanted to use a small mirrored rpool and a large RAIDZ pool. I'd log a bug, but I'm afraid it would just become a rant. BTW I started a wiki page on how to install OI on a small NAS. Would someone w/ privileges please move it to xTrash? It won't let me do that even though I created the page. And I can't find my way around Confluence to find out how to contact someone through that. Have Fun! Reg ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI_151a7 install grumble
I know that you have at least (2) options. When doing the zfs send, you can specify the version number Plan B is to rsync your data Backup and restore if you have tape. I am sure there are several others, but this just off the top of my head. There are almost always options. Jerry On 01/31/13 07:31 PM, Reginald Beardsley wrote: This raises a good question. Can one send/recv between instances running different versions of zfs? I'm guessing that one would not be able to send a filesystem from OI_151a7 to Solaris 10 U8. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installation on HD = 2TB
(My advice, BTW, would be to try putting the 2T drive into one of the SATA 2 ports, and seeing what transpires.) - Rich On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Rich rerc...@acm.jhu.edu wrote: Most BIOSes really don't like trying to boot to things beyond a certain threshold into the drive [who even bothers implementing full LBA support, anyway...] Make a traditional MBR partition table and take a 100GB primary partition for root (or 64 GB or 32 or something smaller) - make it using gparted having cleared the EFI bits if necessary. I believe OI can be convinced to boot from said partition and not whole-disk, though I've not tried it. Once you're in the OS, you should be able to address the rest of the drive, though not as one contiguous storage blob [I'd bet a dollar if you tried concatenating the zpool, nothing sane would happen]. It's also possible that your problem is that the 2T drive is doing SATA 3 and something is buggy in how OI is handling the SATA 3 (whereas the 250GB drive is likely SATA 1/2). - Rich On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Edward Ned Harvey (openindiana) openindi...@nedharvey.com wrote: To at least summarize your problem, without all the distracting irrelevant details and tangents of the OP and this thread in general... Even if I don't have an answer for you ... When you boot the OI installer DVD, with a 2TB drive attached, OI simply cannot see the disk. When you boot the same system, with a 250G disk attached, OI installs just fine. So at least this confirms OI can use the SATA controller (or whatever). It suggests that the problem is the system can't handle drive of 2TB size... However, you can install (what did you say, centos and ubuntu?) some other OS onto the 2TB drive, just fine. So what gives? Is it a driver problem, a hardware compatibility problem, or what? And can anything be done about it? My only suggestion is to check the drive mode. I would guess you want AHCI, and I would guess it already is in AHCI mode, so I'm guessing this suggestion is no help. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI_151a7 install grumble
--- On Thu, 1/31/13, Jerry Kemp sun.mail.lis...@oryx.cc wrote: From: Jerry Kemp sun.mail.lis...@oryx.cc Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI_151a7 install grumble To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Date: Thursday, January 31, 2013, 8:18 PM I know that you have at least (2) options. When doing the zfs send, you can specify the version number Plan B is to rsync your data Backup and restore if you have tape. I am sure there are several others, but this just off the top of my head. There are almost always options. From the man page: zfs send streams generated from new snapshots of these file systems cannot be accessed on systems running older versions of the software. There are many ways to accomplish the same task, however, it gets pretty annoying having to stand on ones head while typing. Especially if you have to type w/ your toes. In the earlier discussion, someone was saving the zfs send streams in files rather than recv'ing them and was criticized for doing so. I was observing that in some cases one may not have a choice. I'd not been paying close attention to the details at the time because I was not yet doing that except for moving things on the same system. Unfortunately, there's a lot of this that is only half-baked. Sun's management picked a particularly awkward time to run into the ditch Reg. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] N40L weirdness
Sigh.. More fun. After an absolutely maddening day I got S10_U8 installed as desired. My 2 GB DIMM arrived, so I installed it. Now the boot hangs for the regular image and the failsafe doesn't find an installed OS despite there being 3 copies in the rpool mirror! I suspect BIOS weirdness, but am really tired so I'm going to bed. If anyone has any suggestions they would be most welcome. Only things I can think of are to find a copy of memtest and/or remove the DIMM. It's a Kingston KTH-PL313ES/2G DIMM that's supposed to be correct for the N40L. I was using an anti-static strap mat. Reg ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Fwd: OpenSXCE on SF440 (missing network driver)
Hi Andrej, On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 09:01:21PM +0100, Andrej Javoršek wrote: Hello! I have successfully installed OpenSXCE on my (headless) SunFireV440 but I'm missing drivers for network card(s). Digging with prtconf (and friends) I found out it is: pci bus 0x cardnum 0x01 function 0x00: vendor 0x108e device 0xabba Oracle/SUN Cassini 10/100/1000 and the driver is not installed on system. What can be done to get that card working? I think the cassini ethernet (ce) driver was never opensourced and it was removed (EOLed) from Solaris 11. So I'd suggest to try some pre-S11-FCS (Open)Solaris release like Solaris 11 Express 2010.11 or OpenSolaris 2009.06 and copy the ce driver from them (if it is included there). The ce driver was not a part of the ON tree. There was a separate gate for it, IIRC. HTH. -- +---+ | Marcel Telka e-mail: mar...@telka.sk | |homepage: http://telka.sk/ | |jabber: mar...@jabber.sk | +---+ ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Fwd: OpenSXCE on SF440 (missing network driver)
Thank you for your answer! Would driver from Solaris 10 work and if yes how to get it from installed system (or installation DVD)? Regards Andrej On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Marcel Telka mar...@telka.sk wrote: Hi Andrej, On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 09:01:21PM +0100, Andrej Javoršek wrote: Hello! I have successfully installed OpenSXCE on my (headless) SunFireV440 but I'm missing drivers for network card(s). Digging with prtconf (and friends) I found out it is: pci bus 0x cardnum 0x01 function 0x00: vendor 0x108e device 0xabba Oracle/SUN Cassini 10/100/1000 and the driver is not installed on system. What can be done to get that card working? I think the cassini ethernet (ce) driver was never opensourced and it was removed (EOLed) from Solaris 11. So I'd suggest to try some pre-S11-FCS (Open)Solaris release like Solaris 11 Express 2010.11 or OpenSolaris 2009.06 and copy the ce driver from them (if it is included there). The ce driver was not a part of the ON tree. There was a separate gate for it, IIRC. HTH. -- +---+ | Marcel Telka e-mail: mar...@telka.sk | |homepage: http://telka.sk/ | |jabber: mar...@jabber.sk | +---+ ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
