[OpenIndiana-discuss] ntfs-3g and fuse kernel module updates
A new version of ntfs-3g and the fuse kernel module is available on http://jp-andre.pagesperso-orange.fr/openindiana-ntfs-3g.html The fuse kernel module can now cache the file attributes for not hard-linked files, which brings its performance on par with other OSes. Below are the measured times for compiling xz for Windows on a triple-boot desktop. All the needed files (source and header files) are stored in a shared NTFS partition, and the same compiler is used. There were 90 source files to compile, each of them including 20 to 30 header files. The package was compiled twice on each OS, showing a difference related to data page cacheing. real usersys Linux Fedora 21 0m10.811s 0m6.835s 0m2.374s same repeated 0m7.697s 0m6.448s 0m2.149s Windows 100m11.484s same repeated 0m6.078s OpenIndiana Hipster 2015 0m9.754s 0m5.962s 0m2.792s same repeated 0m7.660s 0m5.957s 0m2.758s Jean-Pierre ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ntfs-3g and fuse kernel module updates
wow, that's brilliant! :) On 8 June 2015 at 08:10, Jean-Pierre André wrote: > A new version of ntfs-3g and the fuse kernel module is available on > http://jp-andre.pagesperso-orange.fr/openindiana-ntfs-3g.html > > The fuse kernel module can now cache the file attributes for not > hard-linked files, which brings its performance on par with other > OSes. Below are the measured times for compiling xz for Windows > on a triple-boot desktop. All the needed files (source and header > files) are stored in a shared NTFS partition, and the same > compiler is used. There were 90 source files to compile, each of > them including 20 to 30 header files. > > The package was compiled twice on each OS, showing a difference > related to data page cacheing. > > real usersys > Linux Fedora 21 0m10.811s 0m6.835s 0m2.374s > same repeated 0m7.697s 0m6.448s 0m2.149s > Windows 100m11.484s > same repeated 0m6.078s > OpenIndiana Hipster 2015 0m9.754s 0m5.962s 0m2.792s > same repeated 0m7.660s 0m5.957s 0m2.758s > > Jean-Pierre > > > ___ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] No longer using OI Desktop
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss wrote: > The real problem is that OI has no community---just people who contribute > almost nothing (of course there are brilliant exceptions...) and who are > always critical about this and about that. I think partly this is because there's a very high barrier to entry. For example, last I heard building the complete system from source still required access to a closed-source, non-publicly-available compiler. Documentation is scattered and much of it is out of date. I can see why a new user, even one with coding experience, wouldn't want to wade into that. The situation is slowly improving, but it's starting from a culture where builds were handed down from an elite few, and that takes time to change. (Partly this is also a difference between the "cathedral" model vs. the "bazaar" model. A lot of what makes OI and FreeBSD attractive in terms of consistency and stability comes from the cathedral model, which also tends to result in slower development.) > As about the drivers, why don't you work on the new driver? Kernel drivers are a pretty esoteric area in any OS, and doubly so in OI. I don't think there have been very many community changes to the drivers handed down from Oracle. -- D. Brodbeck System Administrator, Linguistics University of Washington GPG key fingerprint: 0DB7 4B50 8910 DBC5 B510 79C4 3970 2BC3 2078 D875 ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] No longer using OI Desktop
I wasn't going to add to this discussion, otherwise I might sound bitter when in fact I'm more disappointed with myself, and the fact I've chosen the "easy" option... FYI I still have OI in a virtualbox, but no longer run it as my GUI or even every day. I know I'm a coder, and should help write drivers, but my driver writing experience is 16 years ago on an old Linux SCSI driver, and that was more of a code chasing exercise. I don't even write in C any more, mostly PL/SQL, perl and ruby. Unlike 16 years ago, I'm now a dad of 3, one autistic, and I have very little spare time when not in the office. I felt the best way to help the "community" was to _use_ OI on a daily basis, report back issues and potential work arounds (915resolution being one of them), and to help on the discussion boards when people asked questions I felt I could answer. This thread wasn't a complaint about the work you guys do, and I do hope you continue to do it, more a comment on the fact that I felt I couldn't continue to work for my employers using OI as my primary desktop because it currently isn't fit for purpose. I was under a lot of pressure from the other coders to get in line with Ubuntu, like they use, and I could no longer justify staying with it as my GUI, even if I can still run it on my servers. Jon On 8 Jun 2015 19:34, "David Brodbeck" wrote: > On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Apostolos Syropoulos via > openindiana-discuss wrote: > > > The real problem is that OI has no community---just people who contribute > > almost nothing (of course there are brilliant exceptions...) and who are > > always critical about this and about that. > > > I think partly this is because there's a very high barrier to entry. For > example, last I heard building the complete system from source still > required access to a closed-source, non-publicly-available compiler. > Documentation is scattered and much of it is out of date. I can see why a > new user, even one with coding experience, wouldn't want to wade into > that. The situation is slowly improving, but it's starting from a culture > where builds were handed down from an elite few, and that takes time to > change. (Partly this is also a difference between the "cathedral" model > vs. the "bazaar" model. A lot of what makes OI and FreeBSD attractive in > terms of consistency and stability comes from the cathedral model, which > also tends to result in slower development.) > > > > As about the drivers, why don't you work on the new driver? > > > Kernel drivers are a pretty esoteric area in any OS, and doubly so in OI. > I don't think there have been very many community changes to the drivers > handed down from Oracle. > > -- > D. Brodbeck > System Administrator, Linguistics > University of Washington > GPG key fingerprint: 0DB7 4B50 8910 DBC5 B510 79C4 3970 2BC3 2078 D875 > ___ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Libreoffice
On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 8:57 PM, Volker A. Brandt wrote: > > as a pointer for people who want to get > > LibreOffice running on other distros such as OI, I've written up my > > notes here: > > > > > http://ptribble.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/building-libreoffice-on-tribblix.html > > Thank you Peter! This will be very useful. > > You write that LibreOffice is the "primary candidate" for an office > suite for Tribblix. Why did you select LibreOffice over OpenOffice? > It's got greater mindshare, more developers, more users, shipped by more distros. Not to mention better and wider document format support. > Some of the stated goals of the LibreOffice project when they forked > were to convert all comments from German to English, and to rip out > all Solaris-specific things. I would have guessed that OpenOffice > would be easier to build than LibreOffice. > All the modernization and refactoring in LibreOffice (and the replacement of the old build system) have made it much easier to build - the old build system was far more rigid and fragile. > Anyway, more choice is always good. > Having a functional office suite at all has to be good! -- -Peter Tribble http://www.petertribble.co.uk/ - http://ptribble.blogspot.com/ ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] No longer using OI Desktop
On Mon, 8 Jun 2015, David Brodbeck wrote: Kernel drivers are a pretty esoteric area in any OS, and doubly so in OI. I don't think there have been very many community changes to the drivers handed down from Oracle. This is a false statement. There are many community changes to the drivers in Illumos, and ast least the "hipster" variant of OI regularly picks up Illumos kernel improvements, including the drivers. Regardless, there are glaring problems such as lack of USB 3 support. Bob -- Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us, http://www.simplesystems.org/users/bfriesen/ GraphicsMagick Maintainer,http://www.GraphicsMagick.org/ ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
