[OpenIndiana-discuss] repository chash failure for gcc

2015-11-05 Thread Zakharov, Pavel
I'm getting a chash failure while trying to install gcc on OI-Hipster

It seems related to this: 
http://wiki.openindiana.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=3211287

SunOS openindiana 5.11 illumos-6357b94 i86pc i386 i86pc
PUBLISHER   TYPE STATUS P LOCATION
openindiana.org  origin   online F 
http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster-2015/

Errors were encountered while attempting to retrieve package or file data for
the requested operation.
Details follow:

1: Invalid contentpath usr/gcc/4.8/lib/amd64/libgfortran.a: chash failure: 
expected: f6ca3716810f8d043f00ce270ce9e53ece769558 computed: 
1aaf2ab548fc216e579dc380c3abaf79e79f100b. (happened 4 times)
2: Invalid contentpath usr/gcc/4.8/lib/libstdc++.a: chash failure: expected: 
0346d65f49abc4d5f70b5162989c715ca16e0a83 computed: 
4655e125478a478b95609fad9424446c8354. (happened 4 times)
3: Invalid contentpath usr/gcc/4.8/lib/amd64/libstdc++.a: chash failure: 
expected: 8537a01fdac6b76c96cf38d48be4b5da708c5cd2 computed: 
23447129d473ebb26de2b20a437df99954266ae9. (happened 4 times)

pkg contents -rm pkg:/developer/gcc-48@4.8.5-2015.0.1.0 | grep 
f6ca3716810f8d043f00ce270ce9e53ece769558
file 346332c39601debb9a227e7f487c83242b678b99 
chash=f6ca3716810f8d043f00ce270ce9e53ece769558 facet.devel=all group=bin 
mode=0444 owner=root path=usr/gcc/4.8/lib/amd64/libgfortran.a pkg.csize=3007734 
pkg.depend.bypass-generate=usr/lib(.*)/libpq.so.* pkg.size=14951804

pkg contents -rm pkg:/developer/gcc-48@4.8.5-2015.0.1.0 | grep 
0346d65f49abc4d5f70b5162989c715ca16e0a83
file 6b4fa9afd6ff6a62683adeab8008ed395fb87e64 
chash=0346d65f49abc4d5f70b5162989c715ca16e0a83 facet.devel=all group=bin 
mode=0444 owner=root path=usr/gcc/4.8/lib/libstdc++.a pkg.csize=2938767 
pkg.depend.bypass-generate=usr/lib(.*)/libpq.so.* pkg.size=9917628

pkg contents -rm pkg:/developer/gcc-48@4.8.5-2015.0.1.0 | grep 
8537a01fdac6b76c96cf38d48be4b5da708c5cd2
file f7c7f75a1e4bd565d23ece1fa1f414dd3d009c19 
chash=8537a01fdac6b76c96cf38d48be4b5da708c5cd2 facet.devel=all group=bin 
mode=0444 owner=root path=usr/gcc/4.8/lib/amd64/libstdc++.a pkg.csize=3335548 
pkg.depend.bypass-generate=usr/lib(.*)/libpq.so.* pkg.size=17128462
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Support for USB3?

2015-11-05 Thread Dave Pooser
On 11/4/15, 11:54 PM, "Nikola M"  wrote:

>USB is not that good for high profile use anyway.
>USB does not do checking of data during transwer (came to the light when
>using USB wireless adapters).
>ZFS helps there with checksums, but for regular things I would stick to
>SAS and SATA.

True, but when you occasionally need to move a couple TB cross-country a
USB3 hard drive shipped overnight delivery is often less painful than
using zfs send. ;-)
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Support for USB3?

2015-11-05 Thread Jonathan Adams
When we do that, we stick the disk directly onto the SAS/SATA bus, then
offline the drive and ship it ... I still have visions of the computer
failing when someone plugged in a USB keyboard and took Solaris 10 over the
limit for devices, destroying the pool (we were able to get some of the
drives back, but only by rebooting, and plugging them in one at a time, and
crossing fingers and letting it settle before trying the next drive)

USB is good for ZFS on Linux (useful to set the ashift on a backwards
compatible Solaris 10 zpool), but it's not really "prime time".

Jon

On 5 November 2015 at 16:23, Dave Pooser  wrote:

> On 11/4/15, 11:54 PM, "Nikola M"  wrote:
>
> >USB is not that good for high profile use anyway.
> >USB does not do checking of data during transwer (came to the light when
> >using USB wireless adapters).
> >ZFS helps there with checksums, but for regular things I would stick to
> >SAS and SATA.
>
> True, but when you occasionally need to move a couple TB cross-country a
> USB3 hard drive shipped overnight delivery is often less painful than
> using zfs send. ;-)
> --
> Dave Pooser
> Cat-Herder-in-Chief, Pooserville.com
>
>
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Support for USB3?

2015-11-05 Thread Rich Teer
On Thu, 5 Nov 2015, Jonathan Adams wrote:

> USB is good for ZFS on Linux (useful to set the ashift on a backwards
> compatible Solaris 10 zpool), but it's not really "prime time".

Just so that I'm absolutely clear, would I be correct in thinking that
eSATA is preferred over USB-3, assuming SAS isn't an option?  The low-end,
consumer-spec drive enclosure I'm using has an eSATA port and a USB-3
port.  The eSATA port requires the use of an HBA that supports port
multipliers (which the LSI HBA I'm using doesn't), and my Ultra 20 M2
"server" only has USB-2 ports.  So I'm looking at buying either a
USB-3 PCIe card, or an eSATA that supports port multiplers PCIe card.
The cost difference isn't that great (~$30 vs $60), but I'd like to
buy the one that's best (i.e., most reliable and more performant).

Illumos support would be ideal, but I'll also consider anything that
is supported by Linux or FreeBSD.  I'm currently thinking about getting
one of the StarTech eSATA or USB-3 cards.

Cheers,

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] repository chash failure for gcc

2015-11-05 Thread Alexander Pyhalov

Hello.

Zakharov, Pavel писал 05.11.2015 19:11:

I'm getting a chash failure while trying to install gcc on OI-Hipster

It seems related to this:
http://wiki.openindiana.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=3211287

SunOS openindiana 5.11 illumos-6357b94 i86pc i386 i86pc
PUBLISHER   TYPE STATUS P LOCATION
openindiana.org  origin   online F
http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster-2015/

Errors were encountered while attempting to retrieve package or file 
data for

the requested operation.
Details follow:

...

I'd say that it is a network error. Hipster doesn't use CDN for pkg 
server.

Can't reproduce this locally with  "pkg install gcc-48".

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [discuss] Re: Support for USB3?

2015-11-05 Thread Tim Mooney

In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [discuss] Re:  Support for USB3?,...:

I have had a good look (at Garrett's suggestion) and it is a lot of work. 
USB3 is more than just an incremental step over USB2.  It would be big job 
even if the underlying, notoriously poor performing, USB framework were 
retained.


Thanks everyone for taking another look and explaining why something that
seems incremental actually requires a whole lot more work.

Garrett's estimation that there are only about 4 people capable of doing
the work, coupled with the fact that it's not a priority and no where
on the radar, is very disconcerting, but I'm at least happy to have an
honest appraisal.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [discuss] Re: Support for USB3?

2015-11-05 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
I have wondered if it is possible for Illumos to detect USB-3 hardware 
which has a USB-2 emulation mode and re-initialize it to USB-2 mode so 
that it can work with existing USB-2 drivers.


Currently one is faced with using vendor-specific BIOS menus to 
hopefully put USB-3 interfaces in USB-2 mode in order to plug in 
keyboard and mouse.


Bob
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Support for USB3?

2015-11-05 Thread Ian Collins

Rich Teer wrote:

On Thu, 5 Nov 2015, Jonathan Adams wrote:


USB is good for ZFS on Linux (useful to set the ashift on a backwards
compatible Solaris 10 zpool), but it's not really "prime time".

Just so that I'm absolutely clear, would I be correct in thinking that
eSATA is preferred over USB-3, assuming SAS isn't an option?


eSATA works with Illumos, USB3 isn't supported.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [discuss] Re: Support for USB3?

2015-11-05 Thread Ian Collins

Bob Friesenhahn wrote:

I have wondered if it is possible for Illumos to detect USB-3 hardware
which has a USB-2 emulation mode and re-initialize it to USB-2 mode so
that it can work with existing USB-2 drivers.

Currently one is faced with using vendor-specific BIOS menus to
hopefully put USB-3 interfaces in USB-2 mode in order to plug in
keyboard and mouse.


I'll have a look a some controller data...

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Support for USB3?

2015-11-05 Thread Nikola M

On 11/ 5/15 05:23 PM, Dave Pooser wrote:

On 11/4/15, 11:54 PM, "Nikola M"  wrote:


USB is not that good for high profile use anyway.
USB does not do checking of data during transwer (came to the light when
using USB wireless adapters).
ZFS helps there with checksums, but for regular things I would stick to
SAS and SATA.

True, but when you occasionally need to move a couple TB cross-country a
USB3 hard drive shipped overnight delivery is often less painful than
using zfs send. ;-)


There are no USB disk drives, they are all SATA inside
so external SATA or eSATA to SATA every one work at it's best speed. One 
occasionally can ship just SATA HD.
There are also craddles to put new disk into and devfsadm to make it 
available.


Also if zfs send between snapshots is too big, stream can be put into an 
file and sent with rsync,
until zfs send continuing transfer lands in OpenZFS. (Delphix works on 
it I think)



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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Support for USB3?

2015-11-05 Thread Jim Klimov
6 ноября 2015 г. 0:59:52 CET, Ian Collins  пишет:
>Rich Teer wrote:
>> On Thu, 5 Nov 2015, Jonathan Adams wrote:
>>
>>> USB is good for ZFS on Linux (useful to set the ashift on a
>backwards
>>> compatible Solaris 10 zpool), but it's not really "prime time".
>> Just so that I'm absolutely clear, would I be correct in thinking
>that
>> eSATA is preferred over USB-3, assuming SAS isn't an option?
>
>eSATA works with Illumos, USB3 isn't supported.

(Disclaimer: Maybe it is FUD that follows, but one I believe ATM)

Also, over its long history, USB was not well known for reliability. Everybody 
cut corners here and there - cables, plugs, shielding (or lack thereof), 
controllers, firmwares, drivers. Even given the spec, somebody did not invest 
in implementing say 1% of corner cases, somebody else missed another % and 
overall the big stack is spotty - with different misses and errors depending on 
components you take and mix. Overall - who cares if a consumerish mouse or 
webcam has a hiccup? Reinit the session and try again.

On the other hand, storage technologies are more demanding in reliability and 
speed. There are also consumerish examples of corners cut, but at least you 
know one can always build an enterprisish stack of hardware pieces that works 
up to spec, though maybe not with sand-cheapest bits on the market. 

I gather (maybe wrongly, but it is a venue to research or discuss) that a SAS 
controller with external ports can drive an external SATA disk tower as well, 
and would cost some 100-200 bucks (depending on port count, vendor, model) for 
an IT-mode oem lsi hba card widely known to work well.

Anyhow, I've heard of enterprise storage components. I have yet to hear of 
enterprise USB ;)

A few years somebody wrote on the list that relying on USB as a permanent 
connection to a disk array is an open invitation for accidents to happen. It 
may be okay for plug-and-disconnect backups to removable media, but not quite 
good for life-long connections where you expect reliability. (That said, my 
home router with TomatoUSB "firmware" OS has an USB HDD plugged in so we have a 
shared storage cache for unimportant stuff at home - but it does often get lost 
from online access, and we have to shake the cabling or reboot the box to get 
the disk available again). 
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Support for USB3?

2015-11-05 Thread Nikola M

On 11/ 5/15 07:07 PM, Rich Teer wrote:


Just so that I'm absolutely clear, would I be correct in thinking that
eSATA is preferred over USB-3, assuming SAS isn't an option?  The low-end,
consumer-spec drive enclosure I'm using has an eSATA port and a USB-3
port.  The eSATA port requires the use of an HBA that supports port
multipliers (which the LSI HBA I'm using doesn't), and my Ultra 20 M2
"server" only has USB-2 ports.  So I'm looking at buying either a
USB-3 PCIe card, or an eSATA that supports port multiplers PCIe card.
The cost difference isn't that great (~$30 vs $60), but I'd like to
buy the one that's best (i.e., most reliable and more performant).

Illumos support would be ideal, but I'll also consider anything that
is supported by Linux or FreeBSD.  I'm currently thinking about getting
one of the StarTech eSATA or USB-3 cards.


Avoid port multipliers on SATA at all cost, simply that is not supported 
by any illumso distro and can make big problems on any other platform. 
It is simply not wise to use any port multipliers and paying more for 
that option is not very sane.

Maybe if you really want to use eSATA port with eSATA enclosure.

External SATA (SATA port just put externally for connecting disks) is 
not same as eSATA and is cheaper.

You always get full speed on SATA versus described USB downsides.
One craddle , connected via external SATA (not eSATA) and putting bare 
SATA disk in it for transfer is cheapest and fastest option for small 
office, small server user.



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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [discuss] Re: Support for USB3?

2015-11-05 Thread Jim Klimov
6 ноября 2015 г. 2:01:01 CET, Ian Collins  пишет:
>Bob Friesenhahn wrote:
>> I have wondered if it is possible for Illumos to detect USB-3
>hardware
>> which has a USB-2 emulation mode and re-initialize it to USB-2 mode
>so
>> that it can work with existing USB-2 drivers.
>>
>> Currently one is faced with using vendor-specific BIOS menus to
>> hopefully put USB-3 interfaces in USB-2 mode in order to plug in
>> keyboard and mouse.
>
>I'll have a look a some controller data...

Yep, that would be great. I want my laptop ports (the only ones that box would 
have anyway) to be basically useable for things like a mouse, printer or 
occasional flash cards. Don't require stellar performance ;)

"Barely sufficient" would be good, better than what we have, already.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [discuss] Re: Support for USB3?

2015-11-05 Thread Nikola M

On 11/ 6/15 08:14 AM, Jim Klimov wrote:

6 ноября 2015 г. 2:01:01 CET, Ian Collins  пишет:

Bob Friesenhahn wrote:

I have wondered if it is possible for Illumos to detect USB-3

hardware

which has a USB-2 emulation mode and re-initialize it to USB-2 mode

so

that it can work with existing USB-2 drivers.

Currently one is faced with using vendor-specific BIOS menus to
hopefully put USB-3 interfaces in USB-2 mode in order to plug in
keyboard and mouse.

I'll have a look a some controller data...

Yep, that would be great. I want my laptop ports (the only ones that box would 
have anyway) to be basically useable for things like a mouse, printer or 
occasional flash cards. Don't require stellar performance ;)

"Barely sufficient" would be good, better than what we have, already.


That would allow for every USB3 port to work with USB2 devices?
Tthat would be great for starters until one day real USB3 support lands, 
when USB3/3.1 would use the new driver.



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