Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] New request for info `Are we able to install recent vbox versions'

2017-07-24 Thread Harry Putnam
Peter Tribble  writes:

> On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 5:34 PM, Harry Putnam  wrote:
>
>> I posted this query July 9th but got no takers far as a response.
>> Is this question in appropriate here?  Is it a foolish question?
>>
>> If both answers are no, I'd really like to hear from someone who
>> either knows first hand or has a solid opinion about it.
>>
>> I don't want to start messing up my OS if installing qt5 and trying to
>> run recent version of Vbox are likely to cause me grief, I might not
>> be able to contend with.
>> But I do need to get a newer version of Vbox installed and working.
>>
>
> VirtualBox 5.0.x works fine (may need the vboxconfig.sh patch).

Yes, I am currently running the last of the 5.0.X (5.0.40) But find
there is something not quite right ... it all works, but quite a lot
of huffing and puffing to install the guest addtions

> VirtualBox 5.1.x doesn't work, most likely due to illumos bug 5709.

OK, that was the part I wanted to know.


> You don't need qt5, as VirtualBox comes with its own. (Talk about
> getting qt5 is more so that VirtualBox can be built from source to
> avoid compatibility issues with the downloaded package.)

Thanks for the helpful input.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] New request for info `Are we able to install recent vbox versions'

2017-07-24 Thread Harry Putnam
Till Wegmüller  writes:

> Hi Harry
>
> There is a wiki entry to install recent virtualbox.
> https://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/7.2+VirtualBox
>
> You may need the vboxconfig.sh patch.

Yes, I used Jim K's documentation (before it was on the wiki) to
install the vbox I am currently running 5.0.40.  But the patch was
created in the 4 series of vbox so getting a bit long in the tooth and
would require major overhaul to be useful on any of the recent vbox in
5.1.X series.

> Virtualbox ships its own QT5 environment with the software so that it
> does not break because of the installed version.

Good to know thanks.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] roughly normal rsyncing data point to point on localhost

2017-07-24 Thread Harry Putnam
Till Wegmüller  writes:

> Hi Harry
>
> Could it be that you are copying many small files from a single
> harddrive to another folder inside that drive?

No smaller than one might incur in an operating OS.  For example; not
hundreds of thousands of emails or news posts.

> If so it could be that you are unable to take advantage of COW
> features because ZFS thinks it needs to write every block on disk.
>
> Or are you copying a Virtualbox Disk image? In that case check if it
> has preallocated itself during the transfer. (It can Happen that the
> unallocated parts of an image are sent over the wire aswell)

I was rsyncing from a [...]/.zfs/snapshot on real hardware putting
files back into place in another location on that same host. (Those
files had been deleted).  The VM part is involved only in that the
snapshot was of disks a vm creates.

So the rsync was proceding on an OI host on real hardware, both source
and destination on same host.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS and encryption

2017-07-24 Thread Kai Windle
Hi,


Thank you all for the information I'll take a look.


Kai.


On 24/07/2017 21:16, Al Slater wrote:
> Hi Kai,
>
> On 24/07/17 19:44, Kai Windle wrote:
>> Hello, Thank you for the fast replies. Other than the link that
>> Andrew provided how do people using Illumos based distributions go
>> about using encryption for their hard drives?
> I don't need full disk encryption, but I use lofi to encrypt zfs volumes.
>
> See https://blogs.oracle.com/darren/encrypting-zfs-pools-using-lofi-crypto
>
>
>> On 24 July 2017 at 19:22, Alexander Lesle
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> Hallo Kai,
>>>
>>> all Illumos based distributions have no ZFS encryption at the 
>>> moment.
>>>
>>> On Juli, 24 2017, 19:48  wrote in [1]:
>>>
 Hi all,
 I'm just making a quick inquiry as to whether ZFS has encryption
 built
>>> into
 OI? I've tried googling around but nothing appears to be giving
 me a
>>> definitive
 yes or no answer.
 If encryption is not supported via ZFS how would I go about
> encrypting my
 entire hard drive?
 Sorry I'm still new to Openindiana
 Many thanks
>>>
 Kai. ___ 
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 openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org 
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS and encryption

2017-07-24 Thread Al Slater
Hi Kai,

On 24/07/17 19:44, Kai Windle wrote:
> Hello, Thank you for the fast replies. Other than the link that
> Andrew provided how do people using Illumos based distributions go
> about using encryption for their hard drives?

I don't need full disk encryption, but I use lofi to encrypt zfs volumes.

See https://blogs.oracle.com/darren/encrypting-zfs-pools-using-lofi-crypto


> On 24 July 2017 at 19:22, Alexander Lesle
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hallo Kai,
>> 
>> all Illumos based distributions have no ZFS encryption at the 
>> moment.
>> 
>> On Juli, 24 2017, 19:48  wrote in [1]:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>> 
>>> I'm just making a quick inquiry as to whether ZFS has encryption
>>> built
>> into
>>> OI? I've tried googling around but nothing appears to be giving
>>> me a
>> definitive
>>> yes or no answer.
>> 
>>> If encryption is not supported via ZFS how would I go about
encrypting my
>>> entire hard drive?
>> 
>>> Sorry I'm still new to Openindiana
>> 
>>> Many thanks
>> 
>> 
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>> -- Best Regards Alexander Juli, 24 2017  [1]
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS and encryption

2017-07-24 Thread Günther Alka

There is currently no ZFS encryption outside Oracle Solaris,
only encryprtion on underlying disks and devices but the mechanism are 
incompatible between BSD, Illumos or ZoL.


Datto  is working on it for ZoL based on the last free bits from 
Solaris. It's not ready but you can expect it on any OpenZFS platform 
when its ready.


Gea
@napp-it.org


Am 24.07.2017 um 21:15 schrieb Kai Windle:

Thanks, I'll install to a vm and see what I can come up with.


Many thanks.


Kai.


On 24/07/2017 19:55, Alexander Lesle wrote:

Hello Kai,

sorry I don't know.
If you use napp-it from @gea you can fiddle with snapraid but
I had never done it.

On Juli, 24 2017, 20:44  wrote in [1]:


Hello,
Thank you for the fast replies.
Other than the link that Andrew provided how do people using Illumos based
distributions go about using encryption for their hard drives?
Thanks
Kai.
On 24 July 2017 at 19:22, Alexander Lesle 
wrote:

Hallo Kai,

all Illumos based distributions have no ZFS encryption at the
moment.

On Juli, 24 2017, 19:48  wrote in [1]:


Hi all,
I'm just making a quick inquiry as to whether ZFS has encryption built

into

OI?
I've tried googling around but nothing appears to be giving me a

definitive

yes or no answer.
If encryption is not supported via ZFS how would I go about encrypting my
entire hard drive?
Sorry I'm still new to Openindiana
Many thanks
Kai.
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS and encryption

2017-07-24 Thread Kai Windle
Thanks, I'll install to a vm and see what I can come up with.


Many thanks.


Kai.


On 24/07/2017 19:55, Alexander Lesle wrote:
> Hello Kai,
>
> sorry I don't know.
> If you use napp-it from @gea you can fiddle with snapraid but
> I had never done it.
>
> On Juli, 24 2017, 20:44  wrote in [1]:
>
>> Hello,
>> Thank you for the fast replies.
>> Other than the link that Andrew provided how do people using Illumos based
>> distributions go about using encryption for their hard drives?
>> Thanks
>
>> Kai.
>> On 24 July 2017 at 19:22, Alexander Lesle 
>> wrote:
>>> Hallo Kai,
>>>
>>> all Illumos based distributions have no ZFS encryption at the
>>> moment.
>>>
>>> On Juli, 24 2017, 19:48  wrote in [1]:
>>>
 Hi all,
 I'm just making a quick inquiry as to whether ZFS has encryption built
>>> into
 OI?
 I've tried googling around but nothing appears to be giving me a
>>> definitive
 yes or no answer.
 If encryption is not supported via ZFS how would I go about encrypting my
 entire hard drive?
 Sorry I'm still new to Openindiana
 Many thanks
>>>
 Kai.
 ___
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 openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org
 https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
>>> --
>>> Best Regards
>>> Alexander
>>> Juli, 24 2017
>>> 
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS and encryption

2017-07-24 Thread Alexander Lesle
Hello Kai,

sorry I don't know.
If you use napp-it from @gea you can fiddle with snapraid but
I had never done it.

On Juli, 24 2017, 20:44  wrote in [1]:

> Hello,
> Thank you for the fast replies.
> Other than the link that Andrew provided how do people using Illumos based
> distributions go about using encryption for their hard drives?

> Thanks


> Kai.

> On 24 July 2017 at 19:22, Alexander Lesle 
> wrote:

>> Hallo Kai,
>>
>> all Illumos based distributions have no ZFS encryption at the
>> moment.
>>
>> On Juli, 24 2017, 19:48  wrote in [1]:
>>
>> > Hi all,
>>
>> > I'm just making a quick inquiry as to whether ZFS has encryption built
>> into
>> > OI?
>> > I've tried googling around but nothing appears to be giving me a
>> definitive
>> > yes or no answer.
>>
>> > If encryption is not supported via ZFS how would I go about encrypting my
>> > entire hard drive?
>>
>> > Sorry I'm still new to Openindiana
>>
>> > Many thanks
>>
>>
>> > Kai.
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>> Juli, 24 2017
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS and encryption

2017-07-24 Thread Kai Windle
Hello,
Thank you for the fast replies.
Other than the link that Andrew provided how do people using Illumos based
distributions go about using encryption for their hard drives?

Thanks


Kai.

On 24 July 2017 at 19:22, Alexander Lesle 
wrote:

> Hallo Kai,
>
> all Illumos based distributions have no ZFS encryption at the
> moment.
>
> On Juli, 24 2017, 19:48  wrote in [1]:
>
> > Hi all,
>
> > I'm just making a quick inquiry as to whether ZFS has encryption built
> into
> > OI?
> > I've tried googling around but nothing appears to be giving me a
> definitive
> > yes or no answer.
>
> > If encryption is not supported via ZFS how would I go about encrypting my
> > entire hard drive?
>
> > Sorry I'm still new to Openindiana
>
> > Many thanks
>
>
> > Kai.
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> Juli, 24 2017
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS and encryption

2017-07-24 Thread Alexander Lesle
Hallo Kai,

all Illumos based distributions have no ZFS encryption at the
moment.

On Juli, 24 2017, 19:48  wrote in [1]:

> Hi all,

> I'm just making a quick inquiry as to whether ZFS has encryption built into
> OI?
> I've tried googling around but nothing appears to be giving me a definitive
> yes or no answer.

> If encryption is not supported via ZFS how would I go about encrypting my
> entire hard drive?

> Sorry I'm still new to Openindiana

> Many thanks


> Kai.
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS and encryption

2017-07-24 Thread Andrew Gabriel

For OpenZFS, there's a pull request open to add ZFS encryption.
https://github.com/openzfs/openzfs/pull/124
It's had an enormous amount of review over the last year, including 
expert security review. Still going through testing.


So hopefully, not far off.

On 24/07/2017 18:48, Kai Windle wrote:

Hi all,

I'm just making a quick inquiry as to whether ZFS has encryption built into
OI?
I've tried googling around but nothing appears to be giving me a definitive
yes or no answer.

If encryption is not supported via ZFS how would I go about encrypting my
entire hard drive?

Sorry I'm still new to Openindiana

Many thanks


Kai.


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[OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS and encryption

2017-07-24 Thread Kai Windle
Hi all,

I'm just making a quick inquiry as to whether ZFS has encryption built into
OI?
I've tried googling around but nothing appears to be giving me a definitive
yes or no answer.

If encryption is not supported via ZFS how would I go about encrypting my
entire hard drive?

Sorry I'm still new to Openindiana

Many thanks


Kai.
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