Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] DNS problem
On 22.02.2021 23:34, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: My nnswitch.conf file got stepped on by something which substituted nsswitch.files during a reboot when I took the machine down to remove the 5 TB disk. This was after I had fixed the problem once already. Fortunately, I immediately recognized what had happened. I still don't no why though. Reg Hi all, this sounds like nwam is enabled... That explains replacing of nsswitch.conf (I had problems in the past - you might face it, because you use old hipster, so disabled nwam and use static IP now). Maybe, to replace nwam with static ip: * http://docs.openindiana.org/handbook/systems-administration/#manual-configuration-static-ip * (old, maybe outdated): https://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Changing+to+Static+IP HTH Regards. On Monday, February 22, 2021, 04:15:35 PM CST, Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss wrote: On 22. Feb 2021, at 21:33, L. F. Elia via openindiana-discuss wrote: I usually use 1.1.1.1 and 8.8.8.8 for dns. There are IPv6 options of those for you who need them lfe...@yahoo.com, Portsmouth VA, 23701 Solaris/LINUX/Windows administration CISSP/Security consulting On Saturday, February 20, 2021, 10:29:00 AM EST, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: I'd been using a Linksys WRT54GL and DD-WRT for 12 years without any problems. A few days ago I started having issues of not being able to properly making connections. It might work fine for an hour and then web sites would time out on access attempts. I have replaced it with a Linksys N600. That is working fine from Debian 9.3, but not with Hipster 2017.10. If I do "nslookup login.yahoo.com" I get the usual response from the N600. But if I attempt "traceroute login.yahoo.com" I get an "unknown host login.yahoo.com" . "traceroute " works as expected. I'm *very* rusty at this as I set everything up many years ago. I suspect the issue is a conflict with nwamd. For Hipster I configured a static LAN ip address in the traditional fashion. I have the following settings: /etc/hostname. /etc/defaultrouter gateway /etc/resolv.conf nameserver As an experiment I removed all those but nothing changed. What things might I have misconfigured to create these symptoms? You do not mention /etc/nsswitch.conf. I think, that too, is traditional way to break things;) rgds, toomas I am *not* a fan of "auto magical" anything. I've been administering my own SunOS systems for 30 years starting with a 3/60 and 4.1.1a. So it's natural for me to continue using the pattern set by that. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss -- Predrag Zečević Technical Support Analyst 2e Systems GmbH tel: +49 - 6196 - 95058 - 15 mob: +49 - 174 - 3109288 fax: +49 - 6196 - 95058 - 94 e-mail: predrag.zece...@2e-systems.com headquarter: 2e Systems GmbH, Koenigsteiner Str. 107, 65812 Bad Soden am Taunus, Germany registration: Amtsgericht Koenigstein (Germany), HRB 7303 managing director: Phil Douglas http://www.2e-systems.com/ - Making your business fly! ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] DNS problem
I've always used static addresses for my regular wired machines. I'd never even heard of nscd and only recently become aware of nwamd. My current network configuration morphed into rather a hodge podge over the last few years and is no longer a planned environment as it used to be. Some things are better e.g. zfs RAIDZ pools, etc, but lots of it is worse due in part to too much else to do and a bit of laziness tossed in for good measure :-( Both nscd and nwamd are running. I need to figure out how to load the Oracle/Sun manuals onto my iPad so I can read them comfortably. Old age has caught up with me and I have arthritis in my neck. The nerves get pinched looking at a regular monitor and it becomes extremely painful if I do it for long. Thanks for the pointers. Reg ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installing grub on a zfs mirror rpool
It's a "bit fade" problem. I ran memtest86 all night. No errors as I expected. I've tried several times to locate the problem with memtest86 without success. I was hoping perhaps it had become severe enough for memtest86 to catch. The commercial version has a fade test, but the delay between write and read is a few seconds. I need a fade test delay of at least 24 hours. If I can find a simple example of a program that loads and runs in real address mode on x86 I can write a fade test. I downloaded the memtest86 code, but have not looked at it yet. New, larger DIMMs are becoming increasingly attractive. For $150 I can double the memory with new Samsung DIMMs. As a practical matter, that is the correct solution. But I have this perverse enthusiasm for the technically proper solution of identifying the bad DIMM by running a test program. While it's annoying that X11 is not starting up properly because of some issue with SMF I don't yet understand, it's very impressive to have recovered the system from corrupted zfs pools with no loss of data. The corruption was apparently just in memory. Reg ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] after Installation, no X11?
Hi, after a fresh install on a new box, the installation finished with a reboot and a login on the text console. So, how to install X11, is there a meta package name as in oracle solaris were there is a group/system/solaris-desktop to install. Any tips on what might have gone wrong an how to add missing software as a bundle? Rolf ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] after Installation, no X11?
Am 23.02.21 um 20:19 schrieb Rolf M. Dietze: Hi, after a fresh install on a new box, the installation finished with a reboot and a login on the text console. So, how to install X11, is there a meta package name as in oracle solaris were there is a group/system/solaris-desktop to install. Any tips on what might have gone wrong an how to add missing software as a bundle? Shortest path should be: pfexec pkg install mate_install pfexec svcadm enable lightdm Prerequisite: You should have supported hardware (e.g Intel or NVIDIA graphics). If your NVIDIA card is too new you'll need to download a newer driver from NVIDIA (driver for Solaris) manually and run its install script. If you are running OI an a notebook: good luck, you will need it! Andreas ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] after Installation, no X11?
# pkg install mate_install should do the job Am 23.02.21 20:20 schrieb "Rolf M. Dietze" : > > Hi, > after a fresh install on a new box, the installation > finished with a reboot and a login on the text console. > > So, how to install X11, is there a meta package name as > in oracle solaris were there is a group/system/solaris-desktop > to install. > Any tips on what might have gone wrong an how to add > missing software as a bundle? > > Rolf > > > > ___ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] after Installation, no X11?
Hi, thanks for the very fast reply I did the mate_install and enabled the lightdm service. looked nice but I got: 0 1 root@skyfall pts/1 ~ 4# svcs -vx lightdm svc:/application/graphical-login/lightdm:default (Light Display Manager) State: offline since Tue Feb 23 20:35:06 2021 Reason: Service svc:/system/consolekit:default was restarting too quickly. See: http://illumos.org/msg/SMF-8000-GE Path: svc:/application/graphical-login/lightdm:default svc:/system/consolekit:default See: man -M /usr/share/man -s 1 lightdm Impact: This service is not running. But a decent nvidia-driver did the trick, box is up and running with a mate desktop. Were can I find the pkg-names of aggregartion packages, assuming mate_install is on of those? I will see for a faster desktop so, X11 with twm is what I am running on FreeBSD-Boxes, CDE on AIX and so. I saw, there is a cde available so I will go to installing that and give it a try. Tanks a lot, Rolf Quoting Carsten Grzemba via openindiana-discuss : # pkg install mate_install should do the job Am 23.02.21 20:20 schrieb "Rolf M. Dietze" : Hi, after a fresh install on a new box, the installation finished with a reboot and a login on the text console. So, how to install X11, is there a meta package name as in oracle solaris were there is a group/system/solaris-desktop to install. Any tips on what might have gone wrong an how to add missing software as a bundle? Rolf ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] after Installation, no X11?
Am 23.02.21 um 20:46 schrieb Rolf M. Dietze: Hi, thanks for the very fast reply I did the mate_install and enabled the lightdm service. looked nice but I got: 0 1 root@skyfall pts/1 ~ 4# svcs -vx lightdm svc:/application/graphical-login/lightdm:default (Light Display Manager) State: offline since Tue Feb 23 20:35:06 2021 Reason: Service svc:/system/consolekit:default was restarting too quickly. See: http://illumos.org/msg/SMF-8000-GE Path: svc:/application/graphical-login/lightdm:default svc:/system/consolekit:default See: man -M /usr/share/man -s 1 lightdm Impact: This service is not running. But a decent nvidia-driver did the trick, box is up and running with a mate desktop. Were can I find the pkg-names of aggregartion packages, assuming mate_install is on of those? I will see for a faster desktop so, X11 with twm is what I am running on FreeBSD-Boxes, CDE on AIX and so. I saw, there is a cde available so I will go to installing that and give it a try. We don't have CDE. Mate is our only full blown desktop environment. Alternatively we only have bunch of more or less simple window managers, some slightly outdated, like openbox, enlightenment, and twm. Regards, Andreas ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] SMF and X11 startup problem
I'm having problems getting SMF to start X properly. I did svcadm enable -r /application/graphical-login/cde-login but it doesn't get past the nVidia splash screen. I've loaded the entire manual set on a 12.9" iPad Pro which has got to be the coolest solution to the problem of computer system documentation ever. Previously in this state the soft power switch would shut the system down, but this time it's not working and I was forced to bring it down by holding the button in. After rebooting to single user mode via grub svcs -xv doesn't produce any output. svcs -a | grep login shows that /application/graphical-login/cde-login:default is disabled. When I look in /var/adm/messages it shows the ipp-listener, wbem and cde-login have timed out. At the moment I don't have a printer connected as the one I was using died and I haven't set up another printer. /var/log/Xorg.0.log contains messages "Uninitialized screen referenced in layout!" Should I run /lib/svc/bin/restore_repository and then "-seed-" ? I've rebooted the system so many times that if the repository is corrupt, so are all the backups. The manual suggest that be used only as a last resort. I assume that SMF is here to stay, so I'd really like to get up to speed with it. I'm using the Solaris 10 u9 manual set as Oracle doesn't provide the u8 set on their website. I'm fairly certain that the u8 manuals are on the system, but they're not readily accessible. Does anyone have any suggestions. I'm quite baffled. Reg ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] after Installation, no X11?
I'd be extremely interested if you get twm running on OI. I've stuck with Solaris 10 u8 because I couldn't figure out a way to run twm cleanly. Reg On Tuesday, February 23, 2021, 01:46:38 PM CST, Rolf M. Dietze wrote: Hi, thanks for the very fast reply I did the mate_install and enabled the lightdm service. looked nice but I got: 0 1 root@skyfall pts/1 ~ 4# svcs -vx lightdm svc:/application/graphical-login/lightdm:default (Light Display Manager) State: offline since Tue Feb 23 20:35:06 2021 Reason: Service svc:/system/consolekit:default was restarting too quickly. See: http://illumos.org/msg/SMF-8000-GE Path: svc:/application/graphical-login/lightdm:default svc:/system/consolekit:default See: man -M /usr/share/man -s 1 lightdm Impact: This service is not running. But a decent nvidia-driver did the trick, box is up and running with a mate desktop. Were can I find the pkg-names of aggregartion packages, assuming mate_install is on of those? I will see for a faster desktop so, X11 with twm is what I am running on FreeBSD-Boxes, CDE on AIX and so. I saw, there is a cde available so I will go to installing that and give it a try. Tanks a lot, Rolf ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] after Installation, no X11?
Hi, yes, got it running. xdm login, twm as window manager. Fast and smart:) As I started up with a text console only, Andreas and Carsten on this list told me to do a pkg install mate_install and start the SMF-service for lightdm. With a little nvidia driver update all worked fine. Since I like fast minimalistik desktops that do not consume the compute power for windows decorations, I did: pkg install twm pkg install xdm copied th svc-lightdm method to svc-xdm, set it up for xdm, reseted the xdm-fmri as was installed alongside by pkg install xdm, pointed it to the freshly createt login-xdm. (guess I could have used the default anyway, it just starts xdm so:) After that I did a svc disable graphical-login/lightdm. That of cause stopped my GUI-desktop at once and no text-console for what ever reason. Logged into the box from remote, su-ed my shell to root again and did a svcadm enable graphical-login/xdm. After a while, xdm started, with a login I got twm running since I already copied my common .xinit and .twmrc to my $HOME. Thats all. Really no magic, worked somehow off the shelf, ist fast and as old fashioned as I hoped for:) All packages came form: PUBLISHER TYPE STATUS P LOCATION openindiana.org origin online F http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster/ running 5.11 illumos-6859ab0054 i86pc i386 i86pc The box this runs on is a decommissioned Dell Optiplex 980 with an Intel 4-cores i5, 16GB ram, some kind of mass-produced dell nvidia with dual head support that the university dumped. Rolf Quoting Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss : I'd be extremely interested if you get twm running on OI. I've stuck with Solaris 10 u8 because I couldn't figure out a way to run twm cleanly. Reg On Tuesday, February 23, 2021, 01:46:38 PM CST, Rolf M. Dietze wrote: Hi, thanks for the very fast reply I did the mate_install and enabled the lightdm service. looked nice but I got: 0 1 root@skyfall pts/1 ~ 4# svcs -vx lightdm svc:/application/graphical-login/lightdm:default (Light Display Manager) State: offline since Tue Feb 23 20:35:06 2021 Reason: Service svc:/system/consolekit:default was restarting too quickly. See: http://illumos.org/msg/SMF-8000-GE Path: svc:/application/graphical-login/lightdm:default svc:/system/consolekit:default See: man -M /usr/share/man -s 1 lightdm Impact: This service is not running. But a decent nvidia-driver did the trick, box is up and running with a mate desktop. Were can I find the pkg-names of aggregartion packages, assuming mate_install is on of those? I will see for a faster desktop so, X11 with twm is what I am running on FreeBSD-Boxes, CDE on AIX and so. I saw, there is a cde available so I will go to installing that and give it a try. Tanks a lot, Rolf ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] after Installation, no X11?
In message <757307433.1752248.1614112970...@mail.yahoo.com>, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss writes: > I'd be extremely interested if you get twm running on OI. I've stuck with Sol >aris 10 u8 because I couldn't figure out a way to run twm cleanly. From lightdm, you can choose xterm insteat of mate in the top right corner. Alternatively you can svcadm disable lightdm and then run startx from console. John groenv...@acm.org ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] after Installation, no X11?
Your Dell NVIDIA card is probably a Quadro NVS card, which supports dual head. " 'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we’re all damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode "The Drumhead" - Alex Smith - Lacey, Washington (Olympia, WA metropolitan area) On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 1:53 PM Rolf M. Dietze wrote: > Hi, > yes, got it running. xdm login, twm as window manager. Fast and > smart:) > > As I started up with a text console only, Andreas and Carsten > on this list told me to do a pkg install mate_install and start > the SMF-service for lightdm. With a little nvidia driver update > all worked fine. Since I like fast minimalistik desktops that do > not consume the compute power for windows decorations, I did: > pkg install twm > pkg install xdm > copied th svc-lightdm method to svc-xdm, set it up for xdm, reseted > the xdm-fmri as was installed alongside by pkg install xdm, pointed > it to the freshly createt login-xdm. (guess I could have used the > default anyway, it just starts xdm so:) > After that I did a svc disable graphical-login/lightdm. That of > cause stopped my GUI-desktop at once and no text-console for what > ever reason. Logged into the box from remote, su-ed my shell to > root again and did a svcadm enable graphical-login/xdm. After a > while, xdm started, with a login I got twm running since I already > copied my common .xinit and .twmrc to my $HOME. Thats all. Really > no magic, worked somehow off the shelf, ist fast and as old fashioned > as I hoped for:) > All packages came form: > PUBLISHER TYPE STATUS P LOCATION > openindiana.org origin online F > http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster/ > running 5.11 illumos-6859ab0054 i86pc i386 i86pc > > The box this runs on is a decommissioned Dell Optiplex 980 with an > Intel 4-cores i5, 16GB ram, some kind of mass-produced dell nvidia > with dual head support that the university dumped. > > Rolf > > > Quoting Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss > : > > > I'd be extremely interested if you get twm running on OI. I've stuck > > with Solaris 10 u8 because I couldn't figure out a way to run twm > > cleanly. > > > > Reg > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, February 23, 2021, 01:46:38 PM CST, Rolf M. Dietze > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > thanks for the very fast reply > > > > I did the mate_install and enabled the lightdm service. > > looked nice but I got: > > 0 1 root@skyfall pts/1 ~ 4# svcs -vx lightdm > > svc:/application/graphical-login/lightdm:default (Light Display Manager) > > State: offline since Tue Feb 23 20:35:06 2021 > > Reason: Service svc:/system/consolekit:default was restarting too > quickly. > > See: http://illumos.org/msg/SMF-8000-GE > > Path: svc:/application/graphical-login/lightdm:default > > svc:/system/consolekit:default > > See: man -M /usr/share/man -s 1 lightdm > > Impact: This service is not running. > > > > But a decent nvidia-driver did the trick, box is up and running > > with a mate desktop. Were can I find the pkg-names of aggregartion > > packages, assuming mate_install is on of those? > > > > I will see for a faster desktop so, X11 with twm is what I am > > running on FreeBSD-Boxes, CDE on AIX and so. I saw, there is > > a cde available so I will go to installing that and give it a > > try. > > > > Tanks a lot, > > Rolf > > > > > > ___ > > openindiana-discuss mailing list > > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > > > > > ___ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] after Installation, no X11?
There is hope after all :-) I program on a 1600x1200 portrait mode screen and display graphics on a landscape mode 1600x1200 screen. That gives me a slightly larger than life size full sheet of paper terminal window. Having all that context when reading code really helps. However, I still need to learn how to bring SMF to heel. Have Fun! Reg On Tuesday, February 23, 2021, 04:30:08 PM CST, Rolf M. Dietze wrote: Hi, yes, got it running. xdm login, twm as window manager. Fast and smart:) As I started up with a text console only, Andreas and Carsten on this list told me to do a pkg install mate_install and start the SMF-service for lightdm. With a little nvidia driver update all worked fine. Since I like fast minimalistik desktops that do not consume the compute power for windows decorations, I did: pkg install twm pkg install xdm copied th svc-lightdm method to svc-xdm, set it up for xdm, reseted the xdm-fmri as was installed alongside by pkg install xdm, pointed it to the freshly createt login-xdm. (guess I could have used the default anyway, it just starts xdm so:) After that I did a svc disable graphical-login/lightdm. That of cause stopped my GUI-desktop at once and no text-console for what ever reason. Logged into the box from remote, su-ed my shell to root again and did a svcadm enable graphical-login/xdm. After a while, xdm started, with a login I got twm running since I already copied my common .xinit and .twmrc to my $HOME. Thats all. Really no magic, worked somehow off the shelf, ist fast and as old fashioned as I hoped for:) All packages came form: PUBLISHER TYPE STATUS P LOCATION openindiana.org origin online F http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster/ running 5.11 illumos-6859ab0054 i86pc i386 i86pc The box this runs on is a decommissioned Dell Optiplex 980 with an Intel 4-cores i5, 16GB ram, some kind of mass-produced dell nvidia with dual head support that the university dumped. Rolf Quoting Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss : > I'd be extremely interested if you get twm running on OI. I've stuck > with Solaris 10 u8 because I couldn't figure out a way to run twm > cleanly. > > Reg > > > > > On Tuesday, February 23, 2021, 01:46:38 PM CST, Rolf M. Dietze > wrote: > > > Hi, > thanks for the very fast reply > > I did the mate_install and enabled the lightdm service. > looked nice but I got: > 0 1 root@skyfall pts/1 ~ 4# svcs -vx lightdm > svc:/application/graphical-login/lightdm:default (Light Display Manager) > State: offline since Tue Feb 23 20:35:06 2021 > Reason: Service svc:/system/consolekit:default was restarting too quickly. > See: http://illumos.org/msg/SMF-8000-GE > Path: svc:/application/graphical-login/lightdm:default > svc:/system/consolekit:default > See: man -M /usr/share/man -s 1 lightdm > Impact: This service is not running. > > But a decent nvidia-driver did the trick, box is up and running > with a mate desktop. Were can I find the pkg-names of aggregartion > packages, assuming mate_install is on of those? > > I will see for a faster desktop so, X11 with twm is what I am > running on FreeBSD-Boxes, CDE on AIX and so. I saw, there is > a cde available so I will go to installing that and give it a > try. > > Tanks a lot, > Rolf > > > ___ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] after Installation, no X11?
I'm wondering why mwm is apparently not part of the motif package for OpenIndiana. AFAIK it's included with the OpenMotif source bundle, and it's fairly lightweight as window managers go, while still (to my eyes, anyway) looking a bit prettier than twm. It's a lot like CDE dtwm, minus control panel, actions, etc (and no file manager, which is a separate program anyway); pretty sure that mwmrc files use a subset of the f. commands that dtwm has. > On Feb 23, 2021, at 18:19, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss > wrote: > > > There is hope after all :-) > > I program on a 1600x1200 portrait mode screen and display graphics on a > landscape mode 1600x1200 screen. That gives me a slightly larger than life > size full sheet of paper terminal window. Having all that context when > reading code really helps. > > However, I still need to learn how to bring SMF to heel. > > Have Fun! > Reg > > On Tuesday, February 23, 2021, 04:30:08 PM CST, Rolf M. Dietze > wrote: > > Hi, > yes, got it running. xdm login, twm as window manager. Fast and > smart:) > > As I started up with a text console only, Andreas and Carsten > on this list told me to do a pkg install mate_install and start > the SMF-service for lightdm. With a little nvidia driver update > all worked fine. Since I like fast minimalistik desktops that do > not consume the compute power for windows decorations, I did: > pkg install twm > pkg install xdm > copied th svc-lightdm method to svc-xdm, set it up for xdm, reseted > the xdm-fmri as was installed alongside by pkg install xdm, pointed > it to the freshly createt login-xdm. (guess I could have used the > default anyway, it just starts xdm so:) > After that I did a svc disable graphical-login/lightdm. That of > cause stopped my GUI-desktop at once and no text-console for what > ever reason. Logged into the box from remote, su-ed my shell to > root again and did a svcadm enable graphical-login/xdm. After a > while, xdm started, with a login I got twm running since I already > copied my common .xinit and .twmrc to my $HOME. Thats all. Really > no magic, worked somehow off the shelf, ist fast and as old fashioned > as I hoped for:) > All packages came form: > PUBLISHER TYPESTATUS P LOCATION > openindiana.org origin online F > http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster/ > running 5.11 illumos-6859ab0054 i86pc i386 i86pc > > The box this runs on is a decommissioned Dell Optiplex 980 with an > Intel 4-cores i5, 16GB ram, some kind of mass-produced dell nvidia > with dual head support that the university dumped. > > Rolf > > > Quoting Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss > : > >> I'd be extremely interested if you get twm running on OI. I've stuck >> with Solaris 10 u8 because I couldn't figure out a way to run twm >> cleanly. >> >> Reg >> >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021, 01:46:38 PM CST, Rolf M. Dietze >> wrote: >> >> >> Hi, >> thanks for the very fast reply >> >> I did the mate_install and enabled the lightdm service. >> looked nice but I got: >> 0 1 root@skyfall pts/1 ~ 4# svcs -vx lightdm >> svc:/application/graphical-login/lightdm:default (Light Display Manager) >> State: offline since Tue Feb 23 20:35:06 2021 >> Reason: Service svc:/system/consolekit:default was restarting too quickly. >> See: http://illumos.org/msg/SMF-8000-GE >> Path: svc:/application/graphical-login/lightdm:default >> svc:/system/consolekit:default >> See: man -M /usr/share/man -s 1 lightdm >> Impact: This service is not running. >> >> But a decent nvidia-driver did the trick, box is up and running >> with a mate desktop. Were can I find the pkg-names of aggregartion >> packages, assuming mate_install is on of those? >> >> I will see for a faster desktop so, X11 with twm is what I am >> running on FreeBSD-Boxes, CDE on AIX and so. I saw, there is >> a cde available so I will go to installing that and give it a >> try. >> >> Tanks a lot, >> Rolf >> >> >> ___ >> openindiana-discuss mailing list >> openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org >> https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > > > > > ___ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > > ___ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SMF and X11 startup problem
Following the hints Rolf provided I raised the debug level via svccfg. It appears that the issue is not finding libglx.so. In particular it is failing on a dlopen of /usr/X11/lib/modules/extensions//libglx.so the "//" screams unset environment variable to me. The filesystem contents suggest that the environment variable expands to NVIDIA. I'm pretty sure I can hack it to work by copying libglx.so from the NVIDIA directory up one level, but I *really* need to understand how this is configured. In the process I found the Imake files for X11 which gave me a shiver. Does anyone know what the missing environment variable is or where the reference to /usr/X11/lib/modules/extensions//libglx.so is located? Thanks, Reg ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SMF and X11 startup problem
On 2/23/21 4:26 PM, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: Does anyone know what the missing environment variable is or where the reference to /usr/X11/lib/modules/extensions//libglx.so is located? The ogl-select SMF service should create the right links - make sure it is enabled. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Engineering - https://blogs.oracle.com/alanc ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SMF and X11 startup problem
Reginald Beardsley asks on the list today: >> Does anyone know what the missing environment variable is or >> where the reference to >> /usr/X11/lib/modules/extensions//libglx.so >> is located? On a Fedora 33 Linux system, I find that library in /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so On an Oracle Solaris 11 systems, I find it in two locations: /usr/lib/mesa/modules/extensions/libglx.so /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so On a Sun Solaris 10 system, I find several copies /usr/X11/lib/modules/extensions/amd64/libglx.so /usr/X11/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so /usr/X11/lib/modules/extensions/mesa/amd64/libglx.so /usr/X11/lib/modules/extensions/mesa/libglx.so /usr/X11/lib/modules/extensions/NVIDIA/amd64/libglx.so /usr/X11/lib/modules/extensions/NVIDIA/amd64/libglx.so.1 /usr/X11/lib/modules/extensions/NVIDIA/libglx.so /usr/X11/lib/modules/extensions/NVIDIA/libglx.so.1 /var/run/opengl/server/amd64/libglx.so /var/run/opengl/server/libglx.so Thus, I suspect that the double slash that you reported is innocuous, and valid, because in the V6 Unix kernel documented in John Lyons' book, the path traveral has something like while (*s == '/') s++; instead of if (*s == '/') s++; I found that snippet several years ago when we were writing Classic Shell Scripting, and we wanted to know if adjacent slashes in a pathname are legal: the V6 code shows that the answer is yes. Of course, the Solaris 10 system also shows intervening mesa and NVIDIA components, so it certainly is worth checking whether a simple symlink will allow the library to be found. --- - Nelson H. F. BeebeTel: +1 801 581 5254 - - University of UtahFAX: +1 801 581 4148 - - Department of Mathematics, 110 LCBInternet e-mail: be...@math.utah.edu - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 be...@acm.org be...@computer.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USAURL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/ - --- ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SMF and X11 startup problem
The double slash is symptomatic of an undefined environment variable. I've fixed such things very many times. .../$FOO/... becomes ...//... if FOO is not defined. Unix treats multiple slashes as a single slash. The filesystem is littered with copies of the library. That's how people who don't understand the system fix things. They make copies and symbolic links until they get it to work. Some of the versions are actually different, but I'm sure there are several kludges. I'll get it sorted, but will migrate the machine to Hipster as soon as is possible. Have Fun! Reg On Tuesday, February 23, 2021, 08:12:21 PM CST, Nelson H. F. Beebe wrote: Reginald Beardsley asks on the list today: >> Does anyone know what the missing environment variable is or >> where the reference to >> /usr/X11/lib/modules/extensions//libglx.so >> is located? On a Fedora 33 Linux system, I find that library in /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so On an Oracle Solaris 11 systems, I find it in two locations: /usr/lib/mesa/modules/extensions/libglx.so /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so On a Sun Solaris 10 system, I find several copies /usr/X11/lib/modules/extensions/amd64/libglx.so /usr/X11/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so /usr/X11/lib/modules/extensions/mesa/amd64/libglx.so /usr/X11/lib/modules/extensions/mesa/libglx.so /usr/X11/lib/modules/extensions/NVIDIA/amd64/libglx.so /usr/X11/lib/modules/extensions/NVIDIA/amd64/libglx.so.1 /usr/X11/lib/modules/extensions/NVIDIA/libglx.so /usr/X11/lib/modules/extensions/NVIDIA/libglx.so.1 /var/run/opengl/server/amd64/libglx.so /var/run/opengl/server/libglx.so Thus, I suspect that the double slash that you reported is innocuous, and valid, because in the V6 Unix kernel documented in John Lyons' book, the path traveral has something like while (*s == '/') s++; instead of if (*s == '/') s++; I found that snippet several years ago when we were writing Classic Shell Scripting, and we wanted to know if adjacent slashes in a pathname are legal: the V6 code shows that the answer is yes. Of course, the Solaris 10 system also shows intervening mesa and NVIDIA components, so it certainly is worth checking whether a simple symlink will allow the library to be found. --- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - University of Utah FAX: +1 801 581 4148 - - Department of Mathematics, 110 LCB Internet e-mail: be...@math.utah.edu - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 be...@acm.org be...@computer.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/ - --- ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
